Current Events > Now Americans have to swear loyalty to Israel or risk losing their jobs

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sobergermanguy
12/17/18 12:04:55 PM
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kideatermaximus
12/17/18 12:12:04 PM
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Fuck Israel
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darkphoenix181
12/17/18 12:12:06 PM
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Can't find what this oath is save for a similar situation:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/texas-harvey-israel/

11. Verification not to Boycott Israel. By executing this Agreement below, the Applicant verifies that the Applicant: (1) does not boycott Israel; and (2) will not boycott Israel during the term of this Agreement.

The law states:

A governmental entity may not enter into a contract with a company for goods or services unless the contract contains a written verification from the company that it:

Does not boycott Israel; and

will not boycott Israel during the term of the contract.

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OldSnakeLiveon8
12/17/18 1:42:28 PM
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Doesn't sound that bad. That woman was just being stubborn
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Vyrulisse
12/17/18 1:45:11 PM
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Ambience
12/17/18 1:46:14 PM
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OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
Doesn't sound that bad. That woman was just being stubborn

What kind of awful take is this?
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OldSnakeLiveon8
12/17/18 1:50:38 PM
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Ambience posted...
OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
Doesn't sound that bad. That woman was just being stubborn

What kind of awful take is this?

I cut trees for a living. They don't pay me to have good takes on political stuff
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Sativa_Rose
12/17/18 1:52:39 PM
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"In 2017, Texas passed a law that bans state agencies from working with contractors that boycott Israel."

One of the downsides of representative government is that sometimes people will support things you don't agree with, and sometimes those things will become law.
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Guide
12/17/18 1:52:40 PM
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OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
Ambience posted...
OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
Doesn't sound that bad. That woman was just being stubborn

What kind of awful take is this?

I cut trees for a living. They don't pay me to have good takes on political stuff


Your take is fine.

They're not signing any kind of pro-israel oath, they just don't want teachers talking shit about israel and upsetting the children.
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Deadpool_18
12/17/18 1:53:02 PM
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kideatermaximus posted...
Fuck Israel

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Antifar
12/17/18 1:53:37 PM
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Guide posted...
They're not signing any kind of pro-israel oath, they just don't want teachers talking shit about israel and upsetting the children

This prevents people from opposing Israel outside of the workplace
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NeuralLaxative
12/17/18 1:54:55 PM
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Every day when i wake up i pledge allegiance to both America and loyalty to Israel over my cereal
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Questionmarktarius
12/17/18 1:59:40 PM
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Ambience posted...
OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
Doesn't sound that bad. That woman was just being stubborn

What kind of awful take is this?

Well... she's a speech therapist in Texas, and not really in a position to boycott Israel in any meaningful way.

What's she gonna do, refuse to buy a Israeli-made plastic tackle-box? Not use ICQ?
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Antifar
12/17/18 2:00:23 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
What's she gonna do, refuse to buy a Israeli-made plastic tackle-box? Not use ICQ?

That is what a boycott entails
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Questionmarktarius
12/17/18 2:01:27 PM
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Antifar posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
What's she gonna do, refuse to buy a Israeli-made plastic tackle-box? Not use ICQ?

That is what a boycott entails

But, how will the employer even know? Buying a Plano tacklebox instead of Keter isn't quite a termination-worthy offense.
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Questionmarktarius
12/17/18 2:03:32 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Ambience posted...
OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
Doesn't sound that bad. That woman was just being stubborn

What kind of awful take is this?

Well... she's a speech therapist in Texas, and not really in a position to boycott Israel in any meaningful way.

What's she gonna do, refuse to buy a Israeli-made plastic tackle-box? Not use ICQ?

Regardless of how effective her boycott would be, she should be allowed to boycott Israel if she wants to without losing her job.

Yes. This will get tossed fairly quickly, especially so since a law clearly meant for multinational corporate monoliths is being leveraged against individuals.
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babyeatermax
12/17/18 2:49:26 PM
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Another fuck Israel
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NotWhiteNinja
12/17/18 2:51:49 PM
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As someone who thinks the "boycott Israel" movement is already a bit on the stupid side (and this doesn't mean I approve of Israel's actions, just that the boycott movement is a very laughable reaction to said actions), this is far more stupid than that.
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darkphoenix181
12/17/18 2:51:52 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
Can't find what this oath is save for a similar situation:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/texas-harvey-israel/

11. Verification not to Boycott Israel. By executing this Agreement below, the Applicant verifies that the Applicant: (1) does not boycott Israel; and (2) will not boycott Israel during the term of this Agreement.

The law states:

A governmental entity may not enter into a contract with a company for goods or services unless the contract contains a written verification from the company that it:

Does not boycott Israel; and

will not boycott Israel during the term of the contract.

Thats not upsetting to you?


The topic title said they must swear loyalty to Isreal.
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EndOfDiscOne
12/17/18 2:54:10 PM
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NotWhiteNinja posted...
As someone who thinks the "boycott Israel" movement is already a bit on the stupid side (and this doesn't mean I approve of Israel's actions, just that the boycott movement is a very laughable reaction to said actions), this is far more stupid than that.

This
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Letron_James
12/17/18 2:54:39 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
kideatermaximus posted...
Fuck Israel

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1337toothbrush
12/17/18 2:55:22 PM
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Spam_n_eggs
12/17/18 2:57:10 PM
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sobergermanguy posted...
https://mobile.twitter.com/theintercept/status/1074641421502574593

Damn SJWs


This is specifically odd.

Ask the Muslim to swear loyalty to Israel and to buy stuff from Israel shops?

I wonder if other teachers are reading their contracts? Maybe they are tailored to the minority, eg a Hispanic teacher swearing he will refuse to buy shops that carry Hispanic foods and to refuse to say the wall is a bad idea. Maybe the black teachers have to swear to speak Ill of BLM
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Anteaterking
12/17/18 2:59:02 PM
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I don't think enough people realize how insane this is, regardless of how much it actually impacts people's lives.
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Questionmarktarius
12/17/18 3:00:50 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
How is this not unconstitutional?

No idea, apart from it technically being "voluntary".
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bknight
12/17/18 3:02:33 PM
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When I was a little kid in school, they used to make us stand every single morning and recite an oath to an inanimate object representing some ideal that made everything seem black and white with no grey area. I did not know at the time I was being brain washed, only now, with the help of the internet do I know that it was wrong and that my mind was being raped. So I now go and fight for justice in this world which wronged me.
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luigi13579
12/17/18 3:02:48 PM
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The free speech warriors will be all over this imminently...
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ArchiePeck
12/17/18 3:05:35 PM
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Boycott Israeli apartheid.
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Sativa_Rose
12/17/18 3:18:09 PM
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I don't think this is a good law, but it's up to the people of Texas to make these decisions, not me.
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NotWhiteNinja
12/17/18 3:19:05 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
How is this not unconstitutional?


It probably is.
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Sativa_Rose
12/17/18 3:23:05 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
I don't think this is a good law, but it's up to the people of Texas to make these decisions, not me.

No, its not up to anyone to make laws that restrict the 1st Amendments protections of free speech and protest.


I highly doubt this is in violation of the First Amendment, as it only applies to government contractors. You can get fired as a government contractor for saying shit the government doesn't like, that has always been the case.

Regardless, it will be up to the courts to decide that.
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Anteaterking
12/17/18 3:28:44 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
I highly doubt this is in violation of the First Amendment, as it only applies to government contractors. You can get fired as a government contractor for saying s*** the government doesn't like, that has always been the case.


What gives you that impression?
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darkphoenix181
12/17/18 3:29:49 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
This is for NOT saying something.


What is she forced to say?

Agreeing to not boycott isn't forcing you to say anything.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
12/17/18 3:40:32 PM
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I don't have any strong opinion on Israel one way or another.
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Sativa_Rose
12/17/18 3:41:12 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
I don't think this is a good law, but it's up to the people of Texas to make these decisions, not me.

No, its not up to anyone to make laws that restrict the 1st Amendments protections of free speech and protest.


I highly doubt this is in violation of the First Amendment, as it only applies to government contractors. You can get fired as a government contractor for saying shit the government doesn't like, that has always been the case.

Regardless, it will be up to the courts to decide that.

This is not for saying shit the government doesnt like. This is for NOT saying something.


She doesn't have to work for the government if she is not willing to conform to the government's requirements.
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darkphoenix181
12/17/18 3:43:09 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
This is for NOT saying something.


What is she forced to say?

Agreeing to not boycott isn't forcing you to say anything.

lolwut


Agreeing to not boycott doesn't mean you support of favor isreal. It doesn't mean you don't think they are evil or whatever. It just means you cannot boycott.
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averagejoel
12/17/18 3:50:07 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
I don't have any strong opinion on Israel one way or another.

do you have any strong opinion on apartheid?
do you have any strong opinion on ethnostates?
do you have any strong opinion on fascist governments?
do you have any strong opinion on nuclear weapons and who should have access to them?

because all of those things are directly applicable to israel
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Sativa_Rose
12/17/18 3:57:54 PM
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averagejoel posted...
do you have any strong opinion on ethnostates?


Most of the world's ~194 countries are ethnostates.
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FrisbeeDude
12/17/18 4:00:41 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
I don't think this is a good law, but it's up to the people of Texas to make these decisions, not me.


what a cop out of an opinion
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Hop103
12/17/18 4:06:53 PM
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I support Israel with the exception of one of their laws which is too far right. I cannot support the Palestinians until Hamas is out of their government.

Sativa_Rose posted...
averagejoel posted...
do you have any strong opinion on ethnostates?


Most of the world's ~194 countries are ethnostates.


Not intentionally that way though.
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Damn_Underscore
12/17/18 4:08:17 PM
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As bad as Israel's government is the country at least has Western values. And the Jewish people deserve their own homeland.

Still these laws are dumb.
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DavidWong
12/17/18 4:08:29 PM
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Letron_James posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
kideatermaximus posted...
Fuck Israel

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