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htaeD
12/17/18 3:31:11 PM
#351:


red13n posted...
htaeD posted...
red13n posted...
Neablis posted...
Hi kids,

So excite about this flavor


your flavor in particular or?


Why would you ask this though, red?


I was honestly curious how quickly he'd be able to answer that.


Fair enough
I was wondering if you could have been trying to take advantage of a newer player. But I suppose the blame lies more with Neab for making such a loaded statement to begin with.
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htaeD
12/17/18 3:32:12 PM
#352:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Also, Scare - I'm not mad at you for those games. I'm mad at people like Death and FD who mega-derped in those situations.


I say everyone in town derped eventually.
Letting Scare get away is one thing. Letting Pendragon live is another alltogether.
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Arti
12/17/18 3:34:11 PM
#353:


Votals, as of #352
eaed [4] - Han, Neablis, IGCD, ben
IGCD [2] - red, (Reg), (ben), DYL
Death [1] - plum
MZero [1] - Scare
Sheep [1] - Corrik
Scare [1] - (Corrik), eaed
Corrik [0] - (plum)
Reg [0] - (IGCD)

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch. Day ends at 8:00 PM EST on Tuesday, December 18th, approximately twenty-eight hours from now.
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Hbthebattle
12/17/18 3:36:40 PM
#354:


Maybe we should try pressing eaed for a claim, at the very least. At the very least, it could give us information.
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ScareChan
12/17/18 3:44:32 PM
#355:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Also, Scare - I'm not mad at you for those games. I'm mad at people like Death and FD who mega-derped in those situations.


I think this is as close to the sorry I'm getting for dance with dragons lol
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ScareChan
12/17/18 3:45:33 PM
#356:


Oh he only has 4, I thought he had like 6

##unvote
##vote: eaed

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Corrik
12/17/18 3:45:36 PM
#357:


Plum with fake content day 1. Hmm.
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ScareChan
12/17/18 3:46:08 PM
#358:


Hbthebattle posted...
Maybe we should try pressing eaed for a claim, at the very least. At the very least, it could give us information.


Why not vote him to help get the pressure to get him to claim? Why just say he should claim
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Hbthebattle
12/17/18 3:50:19 PM
#359:


ScareChan posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Maybe we should try pressing eaed for a claim, at the very least. At the very least, it could give us information.


Why not vote him to help get the pressure to get him to claim? Why just say he should claim

Sure.

##Vote: Eaed
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ScareChan
12/17/18 3:54:11 PM
#360:


That's good, but you didn't answer my questions
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Reg
12/17/18 3:55:21 PM
#361:


while you guys do that, I personally want to see more from this guy

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Sheep007
12/17/18 4:01:43 PM
#362:


Wait MZero is in this game

Also HB is town guys I know it's early but please don't derp and lynch him late on.
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Hbthebattle
12/17/18 4:04:41 PM
#363:


ScareChan posted...
That's good, but you didn't answer my questions

I just forgot about voting as an option, and I was half expecting someone to yell at me for trying to get a claim.
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htaeD
12/17/18 4:06:34 PM
#364:


Mzero is a good pressure point.

I also forgot Shad was in this game. But then I have to remind myself Shad had a bad day1 last game too.
And DYL, but he admitted to being busy.
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Reg
12/17/18 4:09:30 PM
#365:


Shad literally has not made a single post this game unless ctrl+f utterly failed me. I'd imagine everybody forgot he was in the game (Myself included until you mentioned it and I went back to check <_<)
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red13n
12/17/18 4:18:25 PM
#366:


Reg posted...
Shad literally has not made a single post this game unless ctrl+f utterly failed me. I'd imagine everybody forgot he was in the game (Myself included until you mentioned it and I went back to check <_<)


Everyone got pinged.
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ScareChan
12/17/18 4:19:36 PM
#367:


red13n posted...
Reg posted...
Shad literally has not made a single post this game unless ctrl+f utterly failed me. I'd imagine everybody forgot he was in the game (Myself included until you mentioned it and I went back to check <_<)


Everyone got pinged.


Some of them triggered
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Reg
12/17/18 4:19:53 PM
#368:


red13n posted...
Reg posted...
Shad literally has not made a single post this game unless ctrl+f utterly failed me. I'd imagine everybody forgot he was in the game (Myself included until you mentioned it and I went back to check <_<)


Everyone got pinged.

I know. The ping and his entry in the playerlist was the only thing ctrl+f of his username found in this topic.

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red13n
12/17/18 4:22:16 PM
#369:


Quiet Corrik makes me particularly wary.
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eaedwards6400
12/17/18 4:24:54 PM
#370:


htaeD posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
eaedwards6400 posted...
htaeD posted...
also I didnt even think Red was breadcrumbing hard with his 'go to sleep gag'
And I played the game too...


He mentioned some form of "aren't you tired? It's getting late. you should go to bed/sleep" approximately 15 times.

Its a meme from the game.


Indeed
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_m6cq-U0AAkr9y.jpg

Eaed, are flavor acknowledged?


Death, I dont know what you mean. Also, I'm not real familiar with the flavor.

Sheep007 posted...
Also, Ed, Scare is generally active and provides substance but is rarely entirely business. At least in my experience. I'd like you to be a bit clearer though: what about this game so far makes him worthy of a vote from you? Are you saying that Scare this game has only provided nonsense?


I am saying it is mostly nonsense and thus the reason for wanting to pressure.

htaeD posted...
Hbthebattle posted...

Eaed, are flavor acknowledged?


Death, I dont know what you mean. Also, I'm not real familiar with the flavor.

ScareChan posted...
Also eaed literally watched me as scum last game from host position. He should know this looks nothing like scum scare

Also if someone wanted to actually case me there is content there. You quote my first dozen posts, say what the hell is this s***, I'm possibly outing power roles to counter claim rught away, talking about non players and replaces, brought up Mason buddy again where I used it as scum last game and open claimed scum buddies with red

Like that's actually a respectable case and I would give you town credit for hunting

Calling my posts fluff and thank u, nexting is just showing you feel I am low hanging fruit where the playerbase is sour on me after last game and am easily punishable.

If your real goal was aggression fluff is not enough, give me that case I just gave on myself and I but it, but nah


Why would I assume you play the same way every game? Also, I was not taking your posts at the beginning seriously and therefore to me useless posts.

Plum gets it. Also, Han, just because you say it over and over doesnt mean you're right but with 6 votes I'll humor you and claim. I am Sojiro Sakura TOWN Vanilla. The flavor says something about Ren's parents taking me in to do my probation. Also mentions that I am the Manager of LeBlanc Cafe which is where the Phantom Thieves hang out. I
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Corrik
12/17/18 4:28:29 PM
#371:


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Looks fake with the "I" after.
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Sheep007
12/17/18 4:37:07 PM
#372:


The c/p Death bit is throwing me off a bit, Ed. Plus your thoughts on Scare are really, really out there and you're somehow sticking with them? Like, this is so bad you could be Town because scum would realise they're digging themselves a hole and back off.
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Neablis
12/17/18 4:38:29 PM
#373:


So I will answer everything thing that was posted to me when I get into my house rough day at work.

I think his flavor kinda stinks and is wrong anyway
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Terra-enforcer
12/17/18 4:38:35 PM
#374:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Jeez the day just started and we're already 100 posts in. Y'all aren't playing huh.

Trying to watch CapCup finals so I'll be in and out. But so far seems to be the same three or four faces making all the posts right now.


Terra's first post- not damning, but I dont like the verbiage with the complaint about activity and then double excuse for activity.

Terra-enforcer posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
I thought people would be a least a little more wary of "X OF CONFIRMED TOWN" after last time

I mean it's bound to happen where you play a game where you're completely right then another where your "confirmed town list" is very wrong. Nature of the game, and it's not like last game was the first game for most of us. But this right now is just a case of Scare being Scare, though I'm inclined to believe he's town because of it.


Then this post which is... fluff defense of book of confirmed town? Or explanation for failure? Then just kinda handwave for Scare and puts a loose Townread on him.

Before I made my posts on Reg and Eaed, I felt more confident on Terra, so I think my gut is more convinced than my brain. But my gut is usually right so *shrug*

No complaints, just an observation. And explanation doesn't equal an excuse.

And to the second point, deeming that post fluff doesn't make much sense. I was justifying the principal of making a reads list, and that no one but scum knows each player's alignment so you're almost guaranteed to be wrong at some point, this much is fact. And I thought the Scare read was more evident since most of us here have played with him, but at the time it was a reference to him actually reaching out and playing and scum hunting rather than lurking and waiting to respond to someone taking the initiative first as I've seen him frequently do as scum. To a lesser extent the referenced "book of confirmed town" which is definitely a pretty bold action coming from him this early as scum are often slower to pull the trigger on "confirming" others as town.

Red looked better to me upon rereading for similar reasons. He actually seems invested from the jump unlike the times I've seen him as scum. Plus early breadcrumbing and of a very specific character definitely give him a pretty big edge.

IGCD people are definitely looking too much into. Fluff and shitposting in the early game are nothing new to him in particular. And if you actually read his posts, they're interspersed with some level of intent to play as we should such as calling out eaed and plum. Doesn't help that none of the votes on him look particularly good to begin with.

I can feel the eaed vibes because of how defensive he's being and his rather weak logic while voting someone, but I'm going to have to mill over that one some more.
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red13n
12/17/18 4:41:10 PM
#375:


Scare should absolutely not be getting a clear from anyone btw. He basically took most of the game to commit to playing out of his box. It doesn't line up with his town or scumplay. Its a total null tell.
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Terra-enforcer
12/17/18 4:50:37 PM
#376:


red13n posted...
Scare should absolutely not be getting a clear from anyone btw. He basically took most of the game to commit to playing out of his box. It doesn't line up with his town or scumplay. Its a total null tell.

I'm not just referring to the most recent game. I know I've played at least one more game with scum Scare and I recall him being similarly reclusive. Here he was the first one to stick out his neck and for reasons I already said before I think it's worth crediting him for. Even since then nothing in particular lines up as "scummy" so far, so he's definitely a town lean in my book.

Obviously it's foolish to outright saw "omg must be town for sure" but I don't see what's wrong in aligning his current play with leaning on the town side more than scum.
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Terra-enforcer
12/17/18 4:53:07 PM
#377:


Sheep007 posted...
Wait MZero is in this game

Also HB is town guys I know it's early but please don't derp and lynch him late on.

You going to give us reasons as to why we shouldn't? And I find it interesting that you randomly single him out in particular. Not as if he's been some major point of contention.
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eaedwards6400
12/17/18 4:53:28 PM
#378:


Sheep007 posted...
The c/p Death bit is throwing me off a bit, Ed. Plus your thoughts on Scare are really, really out there and you're somehow sticking with them? Like, this is so bad you could be Town because scum would realise they're digging themselves a hole and back off.


Backing down now would not convince those that think I am scum that I am not scum. My vote on Scare is currently useless but I dont have a better read at the moment because the game has been more about me than anything else at the moment.

The thing I am struggling with right now I dont really understand the case against me. Han says he is 98% sure i'm scum because I put a vote on someone. I was attempting to apply pressure because I want to play more aggressive this game. He then targets me as trying to protect myself from being out there with my questions but I was simply asking for other peoples opinions. It is called gathering information is it not? So, as far as I can tell right now I'm being called scum because I'm trying to scumhunt? And looking at the votes against me has anyone besides Han actually provided reasoning or just jumping on.

IGCD, no. Ben, no. HB, no. Scare, counter-vote. Neablis kind of did but then waited for someone else to vote first feels a little bit like what Han accused me of.

I'm wary of HB in this moment though because since we're holding other games in such high regard he did a lot of following others on mislynches as scum in smash mafia. Could also be bad play but who am I to judge that.
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eaedwards6400
12/17/18 4:55:57 PM
#379:


Maybe not more about me but the conversation in the last two pages especially.
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Sheep007
12/17/18 4:56:07 PM
#380:


Terra-enforcer posted...
Sheep007 posted...
Wait MZero is in this game

Also HB is town guys I know it's early but please don't derp and lynch him late on.

You going to give us reasons as to why we shouldn't? And I find it interesting that you randomly single him out in particular. Not as if he's been some major point of contention.

Every post from him I've noticed has been a very straightforward and reasonable town-seeming post. His reaction to being told to vote Ed if he wanted to pressure him kinda sealed it for me. Just doesn't feel like something newish scum would do.
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Sheep007
12/17/18 4:58:49 PM
#381:


I mean, Ed, I think you're scum because your play has been bad, you trying to avoid awkward questions about what you were actually trying to do was bad, your claim was bad and most of your reactions to pressure have been bad.
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eaedwards6400
12/17/18 4:58:52 PM
#382:


Sheep007 posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Sheep007 posted...
Wait MZero is in this game

Also HB is town guys I know it's early but please don't derp and lynch him late on.

You going to give us reasons as to why we shouldn't? And I find it interesting that you randomly single him out in particular. Not as if he's been some major point of contention.

Every post from him I've noticed has been a very straightforward and reasonable town-seeming post. His reaction to being told to vote Ed if he wanted to pressure him kinda sealed it for me. Just doesn't feel like something newish scum would do.


Except this is exactly what scum HB did do.
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Sheep007
12/17/18 4:59:44 PM
#383:


Also regarding Scare, I am yet to see him as scum and think "yeah he's probably town". He was my first town read this game and I'm probably right.
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eaedwards6400
12/17/18 5:00:10 PM
#384:


Sheep007 posted...
I mean, Ed, I think you're scum because your play has been bad, you trying to avoid awkward questions about what you were actually trying to do was bad, your claim was bad and most of your reactions to pressure have been bad.


Show me a question I didn't answer.
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Sheep007
12/17/18 5:00:41 PM
#385:


eaedwards6400 posted...
Sheep007 posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Sheep007 posted...
Wait MZero is in this game

Also HB is town guys I know it's early but please don't derp and lynch him late on.

You going to give us reasons as to why we shouldn't? And I find it interesting that you randomly single him out in particular. Not as if he's been some major point of contention.

Every post from him I've noticed has been a very straightforward and reasonable town-seeming post. His reaction to being told to vote Ed if he wanted to pressure him kinda sealed it for me. Just doesn't feel like something newish scum would do.


Except this is exactly what scum HB did do.

Okay, but I'm going to back my intuition here. Plus I think you're scum and most new scum don't tend to bus.
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eaedwards6400
12/17/18 5:01:24 PM
#386:


I gotta be honest Sheep and I said this when we were scum together I really dont think you're as good as you think you are. And I am not going to stand here and pretend I'm good but I'm just stating how I feel.
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Sheep007
12/17/18 5:02:11 PM
#387:


eaedwards6400 posted...
Sheep007 posted...
I mean, Ed, I think you're scum because your play has been bad, you trying to avoid awkward questions about what you were actually trying to do was bad, your claim was bad and most of your reactions to pressure have been bad.


Show me a question I didn't answer.

I didn't say you didn't answer a question, you just failed to answer questions in a satisfactory way and I'm sure you know that your answers weren't great.
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eaedwards6400
12/17/18 5:05:35 PM
#388:


I answered questions in a way that I felt explained how I was feeling and my suspicions and if you think they are 'bad' then so be it.

I am going to rant for a second and say how much I hate that 'bad' terminology. Everyone has a different way of thinking and determining logic so it extremely subject and you can't really determine if it is good or bad until you get the results. But I digress.
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Johnbobb
12/17/18 5:06:00 PM
#389:


howdy ho neigborinos
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Sheep007
12/17/18 5:06:40 PM
#390:


eaedwards6400 posted...
I gotta be honest Sheep and I said this when we were scum together I really dont think you're as good as you think you are. And I am not going to stand here and pretend I'm good but I'm just stating how I feel.

For one, I know I'm not particularly great, I'm average at best for this board. Would it be better that I don't back myself and just follow other people?

Secondly, I kinda fail to see how it's relevant. Are you just implying that I'm wrong so therefore I'm bad, or vice versa, or you just trying to get to me?
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eaedwards6400
12/17/18 5:08:37 PM
#391:


Sheep007 posted...
Also regarding Scare, I am yet to see him as scum and think "yeah he's probably town". He was my first town read this game and I'm probably right.


It was more of a reaction to this post which to came off so pompous that it irked me.
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Hbthebattle
12/17/18 5:12:10 PM
#392:


I voted you to apply pressure, eaed. Im keeping my vote there for now because I dont really buy the claim, and youre the person I suspect most at the moment. You keep being dodgy with your questions, and instead of defending yourself you instead try to cast the finger on others.
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htaeD
12/17/18 5:12:19 PM
#393:


Neablis posted...
So I will answer everything thing that was posted to me when I get into my house rough day at work.

I think his flavor kinda stinks and is wrong anyway


what the heck is this about?

Also... sheep. How is ead new as scum?
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ScareChan
12/17/18 5:12:35 PM
#394:


red13n posted...
Scare should absolutely not be getting a clear from anyone btw. He basically took most of the game to commit to playing out of his box. It doesn't line up with his town or scumplay. Its a total null tell.


andI am okay with that. but Eaed has taken both stances now

I am scum because this is not normal scare
and also
Why should I expectyou to play the same way
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Sheep007
12/17/18 5:14:07 PM
#395:


htaeD posted...
Neablis posted...
So I will answer everything thing that was posted to me when I get into my house rough day at work.

I think his flavor kinda stinks and is wrong anyway


what the heck is this about?

Also... sheep. How is ead new as scum?

I meant HB (as in he wouldn't bus Ed if they're both scum), although I may be wrong with regards to him being new.
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Reg
12/17/18 5:14:11 PM
#396:


Johnbobb posted...
howdy ho neigborinos

oh hey speaking of guys that have done jack shit this game...!
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htaeD
12/17/18 5:16:20 PM
#397:


Unless you meant HB, in which case he wouldnt be new either.
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Johnbobb
12/17/18 5:16:45 PM
#398:


Reg posted...
Johnbobb posted...
howdy ho neigborinos

oh hey speaking of guys that have done jack shit this game...!

I mean, I said specifically last night that I had work first thing in the morning

and I just got home
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Hbthebattle
12/17/18 5:16:54 PM
#399:


I didnt bus anyone last time with votes except Scare really, because by then I was confirmed Town and very low on the list to get suspected for anything.
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Johnbobb
12/17/18 5:17:25 PM
#400:


also day 1 is dumb but you should know this by now
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