Board 8 > Persona 5 Mafia Topic 1 - Enter the Metaverse

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Terra-enforcer posted...

Jeez the day just started and we're already 100 posts in. Y'all aren't playing huh.

Trying to watch CapCup finals so I'll be in and out. But so far seems to be the same three or four faces making all the posts right now.

Terra's first post- not damning, but I dont like the verbiage with the complaint about activity and then double excuse for activity.

Terra-enforcer posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

I thought people would be a least a little more wary of "X OF CONFIRMED TOWN" after last time

I mean it's bound to happen where you play a game where you're completely right then another where your "confirmed town list" is very wrong. Nature of the game, and it's not like last game was the first game for most of us. But this right now is just a case of Scare being Scare, though I'm inclined to believe he's town because of it.

Then this post which is... fluff defense of book of confirmed town? Or explanation for failure? Then just kinda handwave for Scare and puts a loose Townread on him.

Before I made my posts on Reg and Eaed, I felt more confident on Terra, so I think my gut is more convinced than my brain. But my gut is usually right so *shrug*
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

I'm going to try and be aggressive this time.

##Vote: Scare

All fluff and some how has confirmed two people to be in the "notepad of confirmed town." I gotta tell you that a book is more convincing.

I wanna see the real Scare. Thank you very much.

Side note 1: I don't know anything about Persona.

Side note 2: Red, dont tell me what to do! I'm not tired!

Side note 3: anyone else think it is weird Red is hinting this much. Almost too much.

This was eaed's first post... and I mean, it's just a Scum post. Puts a vote on Scare for flimsy reasoning, also adds in a handwave about it not necessarily being because Scare is Scummy, then a list of 3 useless fluff things except the third is throwing shade on Red for s***ty but easy to grab reasoning.

Eaed is like, 98% for sure Scum for this post, and I'll start with my vote here because I'm most confident on him ##Vote: eaed

This reasoning is by far my least favorite thing about playing on this board. I wanted to apply pressure on Scare by voting and being aggressive as opposed to the passive way I typically and it makes me scum? And my reasoning different from those voting for IGCD? You're way off Han.
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Neablis posted...

I will join you han as i agree

##Vote: Eaed

Why wait to vote him until that point?
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

God I wish I was dayvig, such a fun role.

eaed, do you really think the fluff Scare had page 1 is worse than IGCD's fluff?

Oh and before I forget, got a busy schedule tomorrow so I probably won't be around all that much. Tuesday should be fine though.

I thought it was worse considering it was still going 3-4 pages in. But please enlighten me on IGCD.

I also think Red is probably town. The last few times he was scum he did a lot more lurking and this time he is being active.

Also, I took reds advice and went to bed.

I don't like this b post
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htaeD posted...

Neablis posted...

I will join you han as i agree

##Vote: Eaed

Why wait to vote him until that point?

I think my answer will speak more towards my playstyle rather than a game state.
I think if you look into my past games here etc, you will find that I hold my vote until super late and never use it as a weapon to get reactions or apply pressure. Even my friends would hold the same critique when I was once decent, never really used my vote correctly early.

I could and probably should of started the vote but I didn't think about it, and figured I would go ahead and put an action behind my words.

Would anyone like to claim?
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Corrik posted...

Would anyone like to claim?

Same time with me?
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Votals, as of #257
IGCD [4] - red, Reg, ben, DYL
eaed [2] - Han, Neablis
Scare [2] - Corrik, eaed
Death [1] - plum
MZero [1] - Scare
Reg [1] - IGCD
Corrik [0] - (plum)

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch. Day ends at 8:00 PM EST on Tuesday, December 18th, approximately thirty-five hours from now.
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I claim doctor
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I went and reread... maybe I just hold scare to a higher regard because neither Scare or IGCD do anything but fluff in the first four pages. So I'm going to stick to voting for Scare because IGCD is well covered. Also, Red could be considered a culprit too but I felt there was at least a little scum hunting in between the fluff votes. I retract my statement on Red probably town to leaning town.
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Also, I just saw that day will be ending at 8pm on Tuesday. I will not be available that day after 5pm because I coach high school swimming and we have a meet that day.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

I went and reread... maybe I just hold scare to a higher regard because neither Scare or IGCD do anything but fluff in the first four pages. So I'm going to stick to voting for Scare because IGCD is well covered. Also, Red could be considered a culprit too but I felt there was at least a little scum hunting in between the fluff votes. I retract my statement on Red probably town to leaning town.

Really!

##Vote:Ed

Now I guess we are both well covered.
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##Unvote
##Vote:Ed
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So essentially a counter-vote? Cool story bro.
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is Nebalis's defense against the people discussing him literally "I'm a bad player"

is IGCD actually playing the game now??? Sure looks like it to me.

##Unvote

Reg posted...

is Nebalis's defense against the people discussing him literally "I'm a bad player"

is IGCD actually playing the game now??? Sure looks like it to me.

##Unvote

No not really, I do not agree that I should get any form of defense. I am just aware enough of myself to know, hey the few games i've played here have been "bad".

And not sure how me saying what I said was a defense though?

Neablis posted...

htaeD posted...

Neablis posted...

I will join you han as i agree

##Vote: Eaed

Why wait to vote him until that point?

I think my answer will speak more towards my playstyle rather than a game state.
I think if you look into my past games here etc, you will find that I hold my vote until super late and never use it as a weapon to get reactions or apply pressure. Even my friends would hold the same critique when I was once decent, never really used my vote correctly early.

I could and probably should of started the vote but I didn't think about it, and figured I would go ahead and put an action behind my words.

This is the post I was specifically referring to.

Neablis why are you voting for me? Why is what I said about Scare different than what was said about IGCD?
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Neablis why are you voting for me? Why is what I said about Scare different than what was said about IGCD?

How is it the same?
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

I went and reread... maybe I just hold scare to a higher regard because neither Scare or IGCD do anything but fluff in the first four pages.

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Sorry eaed, but if your defense is "I hate having suspicion on me, also vote for this guy cuz he's being playful" then I'm afraid your lynch is already set.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Sorry eaed, but if your defense is "I hate having suspicion on me, also vote for this guy cuz he's being playful" then I'm afraid your lynch is already set.

That is an improper read of what I am saying. I don't care for the over analysis of older games was my opening point. Then, my additional remark was that you're voting for me for voting for Scare for voting even though the reason I am voting for Scare are the same as the people voting for IGCD? Are you suspicious of all of red, Reg, ben and, DYL? Two of which voted because red said "hey, vote for IGCD".
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I said opening post I mean original response to your vote.
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Okay, the kids are off to school, so I have some time now (at least until work)

Thoughts so far:

God doesn't like playing as scum, iirc? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. I'm sure we could learn his alignment if he just gets high though >_>

I don't think ed's post was that scummy. Comes across as someone who doesn't usually try to get pressure on day 1, trying to get pressure on day 1. Not so much a fan of him backtracking on his Red read so fast, though.

Speaking of Red, his breadcrumbing has me leaning town on him. I'd be surprised if we don't have a thief. (Cause, you know. Phantom Thieves)

Reg got a little too defensive over the 'shitposting'. I mean it's day 1, topic 1, page 2. That's pretty much what we expect from start of day 1 isn't it?

Neablis following Han onto Ed... not really sure about. If ed's scum, though, I'd feel a little better about him.
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I mean, I'm not analyzing past games.

And no, it's not the same reasoning. You're voting Scare for essentially nothing, while leaving yourself an awkward out.

Town vote to find Scum. Scum vote to appear Town.

You fit into camp no. 2.

And like I said, you followed it up with 3 Scummy fluff bunnies, one of which was a standard Scum sideways shade-throw.

Red will agree with me.
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Ashethan posted...

That's pretty much what we expect from start of day 1 isn't it?

No and you're actively bad at mafia if you actually think so.

But I am voting on Scare to an attempt to apply pressure because I think he has garbage posts for 3-4 which is fluff and on my reread of the game I felt that IGCD was doing. And then you called me additional notes as fluff but those are actual things I am thinking. It all seems like a difference in opinion and I have to tell you that you're wrong.
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Eaed Scare was by far not the only one shitposting that early in the topic
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Meanwhile I am just wondering when `fluff` became a common word again.

Eaed, what... is

the real Scare

to you?
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Reg posted...

No and you're actively bad at mafia if you actually think so.

Consider me actively bad at mafia, then. Before the ball starts rolling, we usually have people just joking around saying whatever they feel like. Seems like a normal start of day 1 to me.
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Reg posted...

Ashethan posted...

That's pretty much what we expect from start of day 1 isn't it?

No and you're actively bad at mafia if you actually think so.

Are you sure? Come on, dude, it doesnt get serious until later on.
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Ashethan posted...

God doesn't like playing as scum, iirc? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. I'm sure we could learn his alignment if he just gets high though >_>

I actually like playing both alignments equally. Unfortunately I haven't even gotten high since the bag I had during that game lol.
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Initial thoughts: Scare is town.

IGCD is probably town.

Red is probably town with a disclaimer that I suck at reading him.

Neab's vote is decent and in character, lean town.

Also, to address Ed's point about Scare's fluff, Scare has about as many constructive posts as the majority of the rest of the players put together. Fluff isn't particularly good but I expect about the same amount from town and scum especially at this point and from moderately decent players. I'm sure you've played enough with Scare to know that the fact he's posting this much so early is a massive towntell.
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Also the votes on me are not for fluff, red started because I "shaded" him, and everyone followed because reasons.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

And then you called me additional notes as fluff but those are actual things I am thinking. It all seems like a difference in opinion and I have to tell you that you're wrong.

I expect way too much quality from you as a Town player to drop a "doesnt anyone think red is hinting too much?".

Trying to draw some suspicion on red, and with such a blatant "can someone back me up on this so I don't look bad for doing it alone" is just... a Scum play.

The other two things are completely worthless fluff though, and that's not a difference in opinion.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Eaed Scare was by far not the only one shitposting that early in the topic

Yes and yet I am being targeted for targeting Scare but no one is being targeted for targeting the other major culprit in IGCD. In fact, people are following on that lynch.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Also the votes on me are not for fluff, red started because I "shaded" him, and everyone followed because reasons.

You think 4 people are voting for you for "reasons"

htaeD posted...

Meanwhile I am just wondering when `fluff` became a common word again.

Eaed, what... is

the real Scare

to you?

Scare is a player who when he puts his effort into it is an upper-half player in terms of skill.
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I also didn't really like Eaed for a different reason. I didnt like him coming in stating that he's gonna try to be aggressive, because I think people plan how they're gonna play more often as scum and just lazily wing it as town

##Unvote
##Vote: Eaed
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Scare just badly fake claims then dies. That's all he ever does :P
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Also, eaed is doing the "but what about other kids doing the same thing" defense
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

And then you called me additional notes as fluff but those are actual things I am thinking. It all seems like a difference in opinion and I have to tell you that you're wrong.

I expect way too much quality from you as a Town player to drop a "doesnt anyone think red is hinting too much?".

Trying to draw some suspicion on red, and with such a blatant "can someone back me up on this so I don't look bad for doing it alone" is just... a Scum play.

The other two things are completely worthless fluff though, and that's not a difference in opinion.

I think you're giving me more credit than I deserve as a town player because I really did want to know about the hinting especially considering I have not played any of the Persona titles.
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So what did you want Scare to do as a response to your vote?

(Getting that response now is probably not gonna happen anyway, at least not because of that vote)
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Scare just badly fake claims then dies. That's all he ever does :P

...still?

I remember this happening more than a few times when I was actively playing!

htaeD posted...

So what did you want Scare to do as a response to your vote?

(Getting that response now is probably not gonna happen anyway, at least not because of that vote)

The hope was to apply pressure with votes, see how he defends and see if he contradicts himself in the process. You know the typical things that I think make someone scum.
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also I didnt even think Red was breadcrumbing hard with his 'go to sleep gag'
And I played the game too...
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Reg posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Scare just badly fake claims then dies. That's all he ever does :P

...still?

I remember this happening more than a few times when I was actively playing!

Actually Scare badly fake claims, then gets away with it for one day by destroying any future faith people may have in him. And we let him do it too... Ugh
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Though I believe in the last game, his fake flavor setup was just as inconsistent as his actual flavor
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htaeD posted...

Though I believe in the last game, his fake flavor setup was just as inconsistent as his actual flavor

His actual flavor was perfectly fine! lol
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Reg posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Scare just badly fake claims then dies. That's all he ever does :P

...still?

I remember this happening more than a few times when I was actively playing!

Omg Reg why are you so scum
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Would anyone like to claim yet? Preferably Sheep.
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htaeD posted...

also I didnt even think Red was breadcrumbing hard with his 'go to sleep gag'
And I played the game too...

He mentioned some form of "aren't you tired? It's getting late. you should go to bed/sleep" approximately 15 times.
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