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Garioshi
12/04/18 3:00:59 AM
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HEAVY FFX SPOILERS

His childish behavior in response to the shit that happens in FFX, especially in the second half of FFX, where he outright rejects most of the things that happen rather than just accepting them, and his constantly being with Yuna and influencing her, is what allows her to refuse to continue the cycle of suffering.
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cjsdowg
12/04/18 3:08:51 AM
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I don't think he is that childish, he is just in the world that he doesn't understand.
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Garioshi
12/04/18 9:55:16 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
I don't think he is that childish, he is just in the world that he doesn't understand.

No, he absolutely acts like a child.
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DarkRoast
12/04/18 9:59:40 AM
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Tidus is stuck in a fucking stupid world and is seemingly the only one who realizes it.
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Ving_Rhames
12/04/18 10:01:56 AM
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FFX has shit tier characters
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Squall28
12/04/18 10:04:01 AM
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Ha ha ha ha
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Kaiganeer
12/04/18 10:06:26 AM
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hornless, hornless
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Lorenzo_2003
12/04/18 10:08:11 AM
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Pogo_Marimo
12/04/18 10:22:24 AM
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You can still emphasize the stubborn resolve needed to deny the reality of the world and remake it without making him sound like a whiny baby 24/7.
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Skye Reynolds
12/04/18 10:36:24 AM
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I don't care what reason they have for it. It ruined and otherwise decent game.
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ocelot51
12/04/18 10:38:26 AM
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Tidus is lame because you got to name him so in X-2 everyone has to get real dodgy when referring to him. Makes you think. Yuna legit loves him but never says his name.
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Veggeta X
12/04/18 10:38:44 AM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
I don't care what reason they have for it

Well there you go. There's a reason why Kylo Ren also throws temper tantrums. I thought nerds like to over analyze shit but apparently they aren't able to grasp these simple logics. I comes down to be selective in what you want to understand. Such awful trait.
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pauIie
12/04/18 10:38:58 AM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
FFX has shit tier characters

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CyricZ
12/04/18 10:38:58 AM
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"I need food."
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spikethedevil
12/04/18 10:42:50 AM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Squall28 posted...
Ha ha ha ha


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H47ow4_Cmk0" data-time="


@Lorenzo_2003 @Squall28

You do realise that scene is even wotlrse in Japamese right? And that its meant to be awkard as fuck and weird right?
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prettyprincess
12/04/18 10:42:53 AM
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no character has to be written poorly
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Skye Reynolds
12/04/18 10:48:23 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
I don't care what reason they have for it

Well there you go. There's a reason why Kylo Ren also throws temper tantrums. I thought nerds like to over analyze shit but apparently they aren't able to grasp these simple logics. I comes down to be selective in what you want to understand. Such awful trait.


Kylo Ren was okay because he essentially damage control for the greatest whiner of them all, Anakin Skywalker. But, yes, the things that annoy you annoy you. We're not waiting on an explanation.

It's not like I'm going to suddenly become a fan of country music because some musician explained why he or she got into the genre.
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Alpha218
12/04/18 10:50:36 AM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Squall28 posted...
Ha ha ha ha


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H47ow4_Cmk0" data-time="

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIh6sXRM_yQ" data-time="

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Veggeta X
12/04/18 10:54:13 AM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
We're not waiting on an explanation.

You mean you don't care for an explanation. If you hate something you hate something blindly. I'm happy you're able to admit that. This is why the term "haters goin hate" was created.
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ocelot51
12/04/18 10:55:08 AM
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You ever play FFX after you learn that they recorded the dialogue to match the voice flaps and suddenly all the awkward phrasing finally makes sense? It's why Auron has the best dialogue, since his mouth is always obscured by his collar.
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Skye Reynolds
12/04/18 10:58:51 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
We're not waiting on an explanation.

You mean you don't care for an explanation. If you hate something you hate something blindly. I'm happy you're able to admit that. This is why the term "haters goin hate" was created.


It's easier to hate someone blindly when they're a fictional character. I don't think people would wish death on Jar Jar Binks if he were real.
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hollow_shrine
12/04/18 11:00:46 AM
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Godnorgosh posted...
Well, yeah. Most of the game's characters are lesser-evil Democrat types and Tidus is all, nah brah, we've gotta tear all this shit down from the ground up.

I would like to point out that the marginalized Al Bhed community in Spira has been on that wagon for like a century. Let's not award time-displaced pretty boys with frosted tips who dress like white 1999 Abercrombe & Fitch models and who may or may not even be alive for the lifetimes of effort and sacrifices of ostracized minorities. kthx.

/s
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Garioshi
12/04/18 4:26:20 PM
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ocelot51 posted...
You ever play FFX after you learn that they recorded the dialogue to match the voice flaps and suddenly all the awkward phrasing finally makes sense? It's why Auron has the best dialogue, since his mouth is always obscured by his collar.

That makes way too much sense.
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rikasa
12/04/18 4:27:43 PM
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that's really insightful and makes a lot of sense.

looking back now tidus/yuna is the most realistic and heartfelt FF romance by far. i really love those two.
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spikethedevil
12/04/18 4:28:52 PM
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It's an issue dubbing will always face.
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Tyranthraxus
12/04/18 4:41:04 PM
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Tidus acts the way he does because it helps him dodge having to deal with the shit his father put him through. It's a conscious defense mechanism, not just him having a stupid personality.
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ocelot51
12/04/18 4:53:32 PM
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FFX is really good. There's a lot of dramatic irony on replays since the player knows that Yuna is on a pilgrimage to her death but Tidus doesn't for a very long time. This makes his childish behavior even more cringeworthy, much more than on a first playthrough where he's already up there. In my opinion he only really turns that around after he learns what he is and what permanently defeating Sin means for him: Having his and Yuna's roles reversed.
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Tyranthraxus
12/04/18 4:56:30 PM
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ocelot51 posted...
FFX is really good. There's a lot of dramatic irony on replays since the player knows that Yuna is on a pilgrimage to her death but Tidus doesn't for a very long time. This makes his childish behavior even more cringeworthy, much more than on a first playthrough where he's already up there. In my opinion he only really turns that around after he learns what he is and what permanently defeating Sin means for him: Having his and Yuna's roles reversed.


Wakka criticizes him for his rude behavior though he doesn't understand why until much later.
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spikethedevil
12/04/18 4:58:33 PM
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Wakka has his massive D head moment after The destruction of the Al Bhed home
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Bass_X0
12/04/18 4:59:41 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
FFX has shit tier characters


Auron is in the top five best characters of the whole series.
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The Catgirl Fondler
12/04/18 5:20:32 PM
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I never had a problem with Tidus, in contrast to a lot of other FF mains, he actually has character development and matures, and for all his strife and effort he doesn't even get to live happily ever after.

By comparison, characters like Cloud and Squall were absolutely worthless shitlords who did more to drag down their respective games (not that FF8 had much going for it to begin with), and yet they're two of the most popular protagonists in the entire franchise.

I just don't get it.
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DarthGravid
12/04/18 6:04:00 PM
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Tidus is the spoiled brat son of a legendary athelete. He grew up constantly hearing about what his father was, and ignored by his mother. He felt that because of who his father was, he also didn't get a choice, that he was forced into the life he was living. He felt that he had to follow in his father's footsteps, in one way, to be closer to him, in another, to step out of his father's shadow, and then maybe his mother would love him.

Considering all of this, his upbringing, status, and emotional conflict, and then send him to a place where none of that matters. He's lost. Everything that he has taken for granted is gone. There is no going back to that life.
This is devastating. If that weren't enough, Jecht is a hero there too. Literally the only thing he doesn't lose is his father's shadow, as big as ever. Straight back to the root of his problem.

He's whiny because he could be in Zanarkand. Who was going to tell him otherwise? Living your whole life one way, and then everything completely changes, that takes adjustment. Old habits die hard, as they say, and it took him some time.

If you take all of this and put it together, it's easier to understand why Tidus is such a trainwreck. I would be, too.
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Tyranthraxus
12/04/18 6:07:54 PM
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DarthGravid posted...
Tidus is the spoiled brat


Tidus was verbally abused every day of his life by his dad. He's pretty much the opposite of a spoiled brat. What's worse is that his father was the only vector to success. His fame and success in Zanarkand was accredited to his father when his father did fuck all to support him in that path.
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P4wn4g3
12/04/18 6:09:39 PM
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Everyone says Auron is great, but really that's just in contrast. He's pretty confusing honestly. Otherwise he plays a fairly typical badass trope.
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Tyranthraxus
12/04/18 6:10:39 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Everyone says Auron is great, but really that's just in contrast. He's pretty confusing honestly. Otherwise he plays a fairly typical badass trope.


You find out why Auron does what he does at the end of the story. It's confusing at first but there's pretty deliberate reasons for it all.
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P4wn4g3
12/04/18 6:11:31 PM
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Yeah but how did he get to Zanarkand with Tidus in the first place, among other things
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Tyranthraxus
12/04/18 6:11:53 PM
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Overall with the exception of Khimari / Ronso who don't really have any larger story connections and Lulu who's just there to be boobs, FFX is one of the more well-written Final Fantasy games.
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Tyranthraxus
12/04/18 6:13:20 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Yeah but how did he get to Zanarkand with Tidus in the first place, among other things


He was dead. Tidus and Jecht came out of Zanarkand because they were summoned by the Fayth. Auron could pass into Zanarkand as well because he was a ghost.
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rikasa
12/04/18 6:13:57 PM
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DarthGravid posted...
If that weren't enough, Jecht is a hero there too. Literally the only thing he doesn't lose is his father's shadow, as big as ever.

LOL. Too true. What an amazing game and story.
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Tyranthraxus
12/04/18 6:16:55 PM
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Aeriis posted...
FFX is cool but half of the cast is annoying or pointless which is really too bad. I never thought Tidus was annoying though I think Yuna deserved better tbh.


Nah. It's just Khimari and Lulu that are story irrelevant. Everyone else is really well connected and it comes together at the end in a pretty great way.
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Bass_X0
12/04/18 7:20:47 PM
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Best scene is in Dissidia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wwR39IrDvc" data-time="

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rikasa
12/04/18 7:22:52 PM
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in real life there's always useless and random people in the friend group though. compare to FF8 where every character was painfully tied into the main story. having a couple of people who are just like "I'm here for my friend" makes sense
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rikasa
12/04/18 7:24:38 PM
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Bass_X0 posted...
Best scene is in Dissidia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wwR39IrDvc" data-time="

aww that was awesome. I seriously miss graphics like these. Love how smooth and fast the fighting is.
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Veggeta X
12/04/18 9:04:26 PM
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The Catgirl Fondler posted...
By comparison, characters like Cloud and Squall were absolutely worthless shitlords who did more to drag down their respective games (not that FF8 had much going for it to begin with), and yet they're two of the most popular protagonists in the entire franchise.

I just don't get it.

WTF this dude dunno shit about Cloud. He had it the fucking worst.
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Bass_X0
12/05/18 3:10:30 AM
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rikasa posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
Best scene is in Dissidia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wwR39IrDvc" data-time="

aww that was awesome. I seriously miss graphics like these. Love how smooth and fast the fighting is.


Had you seen this one before?
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