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FLUFFYGERM 11/30/18 11:10:14 PM #52:	Intro2Logic posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Lemme know which far right politicians and lawmakers are standing in front of the UN and proposing Orwellian nightmares No one here is standing in front of the UN and proposing Orwellian nightmares. Theway TC presented this video, you could be excused for believing these speakers are doing so on behalf of the UN or some delegation. But instead it's a right winger talking about a proposal in incredibly biased fashion. TC should have made that clearer, but then, so should the video. That's good. I didn't watch the entire video but yeah, it was framed in such a way that it seemed like a presentation at the UN itself. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:913338032] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote><cite>Intro2Logic posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote> Lemme know which far right politicians and lawmakers are standing in front of the UN and proposing Orwellian nightmares</quote> No one here is standing in front of the UN and proposing Orwellian nightmares. Theway TC presented this video, you could be excused for believing these speakers are doing so on behalf of the UN or some delegation. But instead it's a right winger talking about a proposal in incredibly biased fashion. TC should have made that clearer, but then, so should the video.</quote> That's good. I didn't watch the entire video but yeah, it was framed in such a way that it seemed like a presentation at the UN itself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 11/30/18 11:10:25 PM #53:	To make a comparison, pretend you knew nothing about US politics, and this topic was a video of Bernie Sanders standing in front of an official-looking background and describing the GOP healthcare bill with the title "US government looking to kill tens of thousands of its own people." That's basically what this topic is. It relies on people not recognizing the speaker and taking them at their word as to the impacts of legislation they oppose. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:913338042] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote>To make a comparison, pretend you knew nothing about US politics, and this topic was a video of Bernie Sanders standing in front of an official-looking background and describing the GOP healthcare bill with the title "US government looking to kill tens of thousands of its own people." That's basically what this topic is. It relies on people not recognizing the speaker and taking them at their word as to the impacts of legislation they oppose.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 11/30/18 11:10:54 PM #54:	FLUFFYGERM posted... YourDrunkFather posted... Solar_Crimson posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... All of the politicians supporting these types of laws need to be given the death penalty or life in prison. If only you were this passionate about the far right. You literally didn't bat an eyelash about the far left influenced totalitarianism the UN is pushing here so really have no business getting on his case. I mean does it really surprise you that Solar_Crimson is a radical leftist? Not even remotely. I still get irked by that level of hypocrisy though. Like, get some self awareness guy. --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:913338059] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YourDrunkFather posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>All of the politicians supporting these types of laws need to be given the death penalty or life in prison.</quote> If only you were this passionate about the far right.</quote> You literally didn't bat an eyelash about the far left influenced totalitarianism the UN is pushing here so really have no business getting on his case.</quote> I mean does it really surprise you that Solar_Crimson is a radical leftist?</quote> Not even remotely. I still get irked by that level of hypocrisy though. Like, get some self awareness guy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dreamvoid 11/30/18 11:11:43 PM #55:	Intro2Logic posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Lemme know which far right politicians and lawmakers are standing in front of the UN and proposing Orwellian nightmares No one here is standing in front of the UN and proposing Orwellian nightmares. Theway TC presented this video, you could be excused for believing these speakers are doing so on behalf of the UN or some delegation. But instead it's a right winger talking about a proposal in incredibly biased fashion. TC should have made that clearer, but then, so should the video. thank you for explaining it. i figured it wasn't as ridiculous as the way the topic framed it. --- https://imgur.com/2Qfzt9X https://imgur.com/qlXpj2E https://imgur.com/rPe48jC https://imgur.com/5xltd3r <cite>dreamvoid posted [p:913338092] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote><cite>Intro2Logic posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote> Lemme know which far right politicians and lawmakers are standing in front of the UN and proposing Orwellian nightmares</quote> No one here is standing in front of the UN and proposing Orwellian nightmares. Theway TC presented this video, you could be excused for believing these speakers are doing so on behalf of the UN or some delegation. But instead it's a right winger talking about a proposal in incredibly biased fashion. TC should have made that clearer, but then, so should the video.</quote> thank you for explaining it. i figured it wasn't as ridiculous as the way the topic framed it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 11/30/18 11:19:37 PM #56:	FLUFFYGERM posted... ScazarMeltex posted... You don't really spend any time around common working class or poor GOP voters do you? I live in Chicago so no. And even if I did I wouldn't let my personal experiences change what is true about the population at a broader level, because that would be completely silly. The majority of conservatives are not against "brown people coming to America" or whatever other reductive horse shit the left has come up with. That's just a leftist hot take designed to suppress criticism by dog-whistling about racism since they know that doing that is an effective way to get people afraid to talk about things. Again, we deport and block a lot of Europeans from coming or staying here too. If you were right then that would not be the case. That's pretty much what I thought. Lower income and working class white voters make up the largest part (these groups also encompass the evangelical community) of the GOP base.The vast majority of them know nothing about European immigrants because they aren't being dog whistled to acknowledge them. I live and work with these people. They do not want non-whites coming into the country period. They know they can't stop legal ones from coming and "taking our fucking jobs" but they damn well jerk off to the thought of machine guns mounted on the border to kill anyone trying to come in illegally. Yet at the same time when asked if they would be ok with Canadians sneaking in they oppose it but the vehemence, zealotry, and desire for violence just isn't there. Stop being dishonest about it, that's all I ask. I'm not talking about you, your stance has reason and nuance, I'm talking about your party's base. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:913338376] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>You don't really spend any time around common working class or poor GOP voters do you? </quote> I live in Chicago so no. And even if I did I wouldn't let my personal experiences change what is true about the population at a broader level, because that would be completely silly. The majority of conservatives are not against "brown people coming to America" or whatever other reductive horse shit the left has come up with. That's just a leftist hot take designed to suppress criticism by dog-whistling about racism since they know that doing that is an effective way to get people afraid to talk about things. Again, we deport and block a lot of Europeans from coming or staying here too. If you were right then that would not be the case.</quote> That's pretty much what I thought. Lower income and working class white voters make up the largest part (these groups also encompass the evangelical community) of the GOP base.The vast majority of them know nothing about European immigrants because they aren't being dog whistled to acknowledge them. I live and work with these people. They do not want non-whites coming into the country period. They know they can't stop legal ones from coming and "taking our fucking jobs" but they damn well jerk off to the thought of machine guns mounted on the border to kill anyone trying to come in illegally. Yet at the same time when asked if they would be ok with Canadians sneaking in they oppose it but the vehemence, zealotry, and desire for violence just isn't there. Stop being dishonest about it, that's all I ask. I'm not talking about you, your stance has reason and nuance, I'm talking about your party's base.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 11/30/18 11:27:19 PM #57:	ScazarMeltex posted... Lower income and working class white voters make up the largest part (these groups also encompass the evangelical community) of the GOP base. Eh, the GOP base is more middle class; low-income people typically aren't voters. https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/contributors/here-s-what-2018-exit-polls-tell-us-about-republican-voters-R5fumuwQAkOyq7EGpRrmMw/ Low-income voters typically vote Democrat, but Republicans won voters who earned above $50,000 annually by double-digit margins in 2014. In 2016, Republicans eked out a victory in the $50-100,000 range by only three points. Voters who earned more split almost equally between the two parties. This year, Democrats won the $50-100,000 category while Republicans won voters who earned more than $100,000. Even in the primaries, Trump support, like the rest of GOP support, came primarily from people making >$50k. Working class, perhaps, but not low-income. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/06/05/its-time-to-bust-the-myth-most-trump-voters-were-not-working-class/?noredirect=on https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/ Trump voters median income exceeded the overall statewide median in all 23 states, sometimes narrowly (as in New Hampshire or Missouri) but sometimes substantially. In Florida, for instance, the median household income for Trump voters was about $70,000, compared with $48,000 for the state as a whole. The differences are usually larger in states with substantial non-white populations, as black and Hispanic voters are overwhelmingly Democratic and tend to have lower incomes. In South Carolina, for example, the median Trump supporter had a household income of $72,000, while the median for Clinton supporters was $39,000. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:913338675] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>Lower income and working class white voters make up the largest part (these groups also encompass the evangelical community) of the GOP base.</quote> Eh, the GOP base is more middle class; low-income people typically aren't voters. https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/contributors/here-s-what-2018-exit-polls-tell-us-about-republican-voters-R5fumuwQAkOyq7EGpRrmMw/ <quote>Low-income voters typically vote Democrat, but Republicans won voters who earned above $50,000 annually by double-digit margins in 2014. In 2016, Republicans eked out a victory in the $50-100,000 range by only three points. Voters who earned more split almost equally between the two parties. This year, Democrats won the $50-100,000 category while Republicans won voters who earned more than $100,000.</quote> Even in the primaries, Trump support, like the rest of GOP support, came primarily from people making >$50k. Working class, perhaps, but not low-income. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/06/05/its-time-to-bust-the-myth-most-trump-voters-were-not-working-class/?noredirect=on https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/ <quote>Trump voters median income exceeded the overall statewide median in all 23 states, sometimes narrowly (as in New Hampshire or Missouri) but sometimes substantially. In Florida, for instance, the median household income for Trump voters was about $70,000, compared with $48,000 for the state as a whole. The differences are usually larger in states with substantial non-white populations, as black and Hispanic voters are overwhelmingly Democratic and tend to have lower incomes. In South Carolina, for example, the median Trump supporter had a household income of $72,000, while the median for Clinton supporters was $39,000.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 11/30/18 11:29:01 PM #58:	The working class is the middle class antifar, we've been conditioned to use the term middle class in it's place. A socialist such as yourself should know that. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:913338735] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote>The working class is the middle class antifar, we've been conditioned to use the term middle class in it's place. A socialist such as yourself should know that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 11/30/18 11:30:13 PM #59:	Solar_Crimson posted... Well, what inherently is wrong with migration? Terrorism and in some cases crime. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:913338772] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote>Well, what inherently is wrong with migration?</quote> Terrorism and in some cases crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 11/30/18 11:31:28 PM #60:	ScazarMeltex posted... The working class is the middle class antifar, we've been conditioned to use the term middle class in it's place. A socialist such as yourself should know that. Fair enough; I'm not used to people around these parts using the term in that way. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:913338813] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>The working class is the middle class antifar, we've been conditioned to use the term middle class in it's place. A socialist such as yourself should know that.</quote> Fair enough; I'm not used to people around these parts using the term in that way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alphamon 11/30/18 11:35:49 PM #61:	ScazarMeltex posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... ScazarMeltex posted... You don't really spend any time around common working class or poor GOP voters do you? I live in Chicago so no. And even if I did I wouldn't let my personal experiences change what is true about the population at a broader level, because that would be completely silly. The majority of conservatives are not against "brown people coming to America" or whatever other reductive horse shit the left has come up with. That's just a leftist hot take designed to suppress criticism by dog-whistling about racism since they know that doing that is an effective way to get people afraid to talk about things. Again, we deport and block a lot of Europeans from coming or staying here too. If you were right then that would not be the case. That's pretty much what I thought. Lower income and working class white voters make up the largest part (these groups also encompass the evangelical community) of the GOP base.The vast majority of them know nothing about European immigrants because they aren't being dog whistled to acknowledge them. I live and work with these people. They do not want non-whites coming into the country period. They know they can't stop legal ones from coming and "taking our fucking jobs" but they damn well jerk off to the thought of machine guns mounted on the border to kill anyone trying to come in illegally. Yet at the same time when asked if they would be ok with Canadians sneaking in they oppose it but the vehemence, zealotry, and desire for violence just isn't there. Stop being dishonest about it, that's all I ask. I'm not talking about you, your stance has reason and nuance, I'm talking about your party's base. The real litmus test is being for or against white south African refugees but being against pther refugees. <cite>Alphamon posted [p:913338973] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>You don't really spend any time around common working class or poor GOP voters do you? </quote> I live in Chicago so no. And even if I did I wouldn't let my personal experiences change what is true about the population at a broader level, because that would be completely silly. The majority of conservatives are not against "brown people coming to America" or whatever other reductive horse shit the left has come up with. That's just a leftist hot take designed to suppress criticism by dog-whistling about racism since they know that doing that is an effective way to get people afraid to talk about things. Again, we deport and block a lot of Europeans from coming or staying here too. If you were right then that would not be the case.</quote> That's pretty much what I thought. Lower income and working class white voters make up the largest part (these groups also encompass the evangelical community) of the GOP base.The vast majority of them know nothing about European immigrants because they aren't being dog whistled to acknowledge them. I live and work with these people. They do not want non-whites coming into the country period. They know they can't stop legal ones from coming and "taking our fucking jobs" but they damn well jerk off to the thought of machine guns mounted on the border to kill anyone trying to come in illegally. Yet at the same time when asked if they would be ok with Canadians sneaking in they oppose it but the vehemence, zealotry, and desire for violence just isn't there. Stop being dishonest about it, that's all I ask. I'm not talking about you, your stance has reason and nuance, I'm talking about your party's base.</quote> The real litmus test is being for or against white south African refugees but being against pther refugees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/30/18 11:38:41 PM #62:	There's just a natural progression to things: Young and broke: "Society owes me!" Mature and upwardly mobile: "Society doesn't owe you shit!" Old and broke: "Society owes me!" <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:913339072] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote>There's just a natural progression to things: Young and broke: "Society owes me!" Mature and upwardly mobile: "Society doesn't owe you shit!" Old and broke: "Society owes me!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 11/30/18 11:43:09 PM #63:	FLUFFYGERM posted... YourDrunkFather posted... Solar_Crimson posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... All of the politicians supporting these types of laws need to be given the death penalty or life in prison. If only you were this passionate about the far right. You literally didn't bat an eyelash about the far left influenced totalitarianism the UN is pushing here so really have no business getting on his case. I mean does it really surprise you that Solar_Crimson is a radical leftist? I'm not, but I guess anyone not on your side is a radical leftest to you. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:913339218] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YourDrunkFather posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>All of the politicians supporting these types of laws need to be given the death penalty or life in prison.</quote> If only you were this passionate about the far right.</quote> You literally didn't bat an eyelash about the far left influenced totalitarianism the UN is pushing here so really have no business getting on his case.</quote> I mean does it really surprise you that Solar_Crimson is a radical leftist?</quote> I'm not, but I guess anyone not on your side is a radical leftest to you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/30/18 11:44:09 PM #64:	Solar_Crimson posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... YourDrunkFather posted... Solar_Crimson posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... All of the politicians supporting these types of laws need to be given the death penalty or life in prison. If only you were this passionate about the far right. You literally didn't bat an eyelash about the far left influenced totalitarianism the UN is pushing here so really have no business getting on his case. I mean does it really surprise you that Solar_Crimson is a radical leftist? I'm not, but I guess anyone not on your side is a radical leftest to you. Almost like how anyone not on your side is alt right to you --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:913339250] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YourDrunkFather posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>All of the politicians supporting these types of laws need to be given the death penalty or life in prison.</quote> If only you were this passionate about the far right.</quote> You literally didn't bat an eyelash about the far left influenced totalitarianism the UN is pushing here so really have no business getting on his case.</quote> I mean does it really surprise you that Solar_Crimson is a radical leftist?</quote> I'm not, but I guess anyone not on your side is a radical leftest to you.</quote> Almost like how anyone not on your side is alt right to you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 11/30/18 11:45:29 PM #65:	I had a radical breakfast this morning. Bacon, eggs, AND fruit loops --- MAGA <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:913339298] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote>I had a radical breakfast this morning. Bacon, eggs, AND fruit loops</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 12/03/18 5:31:48 AM #67:	it'll be illegal to fart within 20 feet of a police officer soon --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:913456149] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote>it'll be illegal to fart within 20 feet of a police officer soon</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EternalDivide 12/03/18 6:31:47 AM #68:	Oh, fuck the UN. --- FFVII Remake: A disaster in the making. I'll laugh at whatever I find funny whether you like it or not. <cite>EternalDivide posted [p:913457189] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote>Oh, fuck the UN.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 12/03/18 1:27:35 PM #69:	Seems like Germany is still trying to rule the world, just not in such an overt way like Hitler did. https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/11/is-angela-merkel-behind-the-un-migration-pact-new-document-sheds-light/ --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:913472165] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote>Seems like Germany is still trying to rule the world, just not in such an overt way like Hitler did. https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/11/is-angela-merkel-behind-the-un-migration-pact-new-document-sheds-light/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 12/03/18 1:42:29 PM #70:	Monolith1676 posted... Seems like Germany is still trying to rule the world, just not in such an overt way like Hitler did. https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/11/is-angela-merkel-behind-the-un-migration-pact-new-document-sheds-light/ Stop trying to push your hard right narrative off of shit sources like this and misrepresentation of sources like you did in the original post. Thank you. --- https://youtu.be/zkNlmYJyFDo?t=80 "Like all fairy tales, Adam. There has to be a Hero, and there has to be a Villain." <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:913472997] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote><cite>Monolith1676 posted...</cite> <quote>Seems like Germany is still trying to rule the world, just not in such an overt way like Hitler did. https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/11/is-angela-merkel-behind-the-un-migration-pact-new-document-sheds-light/</quote> Stop trying to push your hard right narrative off of shit sources like this and misrepresentation of sources like you did in the original post. Thank you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaverickXeo 12/04/18 10:02:29 PM #72:	Solar_Crimson posted... Well, what inherently is wrong with migration? Migration without checks cause disease to spread, terrorist/criminal movement becomes easier, difficult to track people, can devastate economies, etc. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:913559339] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote>Well, what inherently is wrong with migration?</quote> Migration without checks cause disease to spread, terrorist/criminal movement becomes easier, difficult to track people, can devastate economies, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 12/07/18 1:18:51 AM #73:	Bump --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:913691948] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote>Bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 12/09/18 5:05:14 AM #75:	UN has tried to do a lot of shit and were told to fuck off. --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:913811342] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote>UN has tried to do a lot of shit and were told to fuck off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kayoticdreamz 12/09/18 5:28:04 AM #76:	@FLUFFYGERM wrecking the liberals of gamefaqs again I see. Doing God's work. <cite>kayoticdreamz posted [p:913811747] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote>@FLUFFYGERM wrecking the liberals of gamefaqs again I see. Doing God's work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 12/09/18 5:38:05 AM #77:	this is legitimately terrifying --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:913811947] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote>this is legitimately terrifying</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 12/09/18 5:38:28 AM #78:	can we criminalize the UN instead? --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:913811956] in UN looking... [t:77256444]...</cite> <quote>can we criminalize the UN instead?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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