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Questionmarktarius 12/01/18 4:38:07 AM #351: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
I just had a feeling would be appropriate to post here one day It's CE, so it's probably appropriate all the days. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hornezz 12/01/18 5:49:50 AM #352: |
This topic taught me that if my only grandparents had shown a little more compassion and understanding for the nazis, then maybe they wouldn't have invaded our country, our city wouldn't have been leveled by bombs and most of my grandparents' classmates wouldn't have been murdered. Thanks, I'll let them know and I'm sure they'll appreciate the lesson.
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Ving_Rhames 12/01/18 6:00:27 AM #353: |
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action52 12/01/18 6:15:39 AM #354: |
Doesn't get much more "fair, next" than this.
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ImTheMacheteGuy 12/01/18 10:29:57 AM #355: |
CrimsonRage posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...Just answer an easy binary question: what would work better for making someone less violent and rehabilitating back into society: stigmatizing them and attacking them, or reaching out to them and trying to help. This. Even ones who aren't hateful, just gullible and misguided aren't always redeemable. I saw a story about Islamic radicalization that featured teenagers and children who were recruited to be suicide bombers and were caught before able to do an attack. They had literally been told "the bomb explodes outward in one direction. You'll kill your enemies but no harm will come to you." They were naive enough to believe it. It was explained that it doesn't work that way, they were being used etc. The rehabilitation efforts often didn't work and some of the same kids were caught again trying to do suicide attacks after being released the first time after rehabilitation. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 12/01/18 10:41:26 AM #356: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Tmaster148 posted... "I don't believe in the concept of hate speech." --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 12/01/18 10:46:22 AM #359: |
VoightKent posted...
With the way the black dude was walking he was already looking for a fight Yeah, that kid with the nazi uniform that was calling people the n-word was just an innocent little good boy that dindunuffin. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 12/01/18 10:47:01 AM #360: |
apocalyptic_4 posted...
iClockwork posted...Giant_Aspirin posted...why does it often seem like you're defending-but-not-quite-defending these sorts of people? Because they want to perpetuate and normalize hate speech and bigotry. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 12/01/18 10:49:14 AM #361: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
VoightKent posted...With the way the black dude was walking he was already looking for a fight If you shout out "honky whitey cracker!" you may get some fisticuffs. I'm not blaming the black dude at all here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 12/01/18 11:36:53 AM #362: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Look at these Nazi sympathizers . . . So what I'm gathering from your views expressed in this topic, you seem to want: More legal protection under freedom of speech for nazis, racists, bigots etc. so that they are free to express hateful views... And you're also against violence, so nazis, racists, bigots etc. are more protected against vigilante justice. So nazis should have the freedom to openly be nazis and violence against nazis should be condemned. Nazis shouldn't have to fear the law when expressing their views and nazis shouldn't have to fear vigilante violence for expressing their views. Reasonable, fair, unbiased, non-partisan. I applaud you sir... --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 12/01/18 11:40:07 AM #363: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
or if it's nihilistic anti-American radical leftists that are simply gas-lighting everyone that isn't garbage on civil rights. Holy buzzwords Batman! --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iClockwork 12/01/18 11:40:49 AM #364: |
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
So people should have the freedom to openly express their views and violence against people should be condemned. People shouldn't have to fear the law when expressing their views and people shouldn't have to fear vigilante violence for expressing their views. Yup pretty much. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BigSLM1993 12/01/18 11:41:21 AM #365: |
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...Look at these Nazi sympathizers . . . So sarcasm aside, what legislation would you want proposed to combat nazis? Should we make it illegal to have those views openly? Should we give people a legal defense if they harm one ? What if they accidentally kill one? What precedent do you think this would set legally for the future? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trigg3rH4ppy 12/01/18 11:53:27 AM #366: |
clearaflagrantj posted...
Tmaster148 posted...clearaflagrantj posted...Sucker punching is fucked up regardless of the circumstances. Talk shit get hit. Words have meaning, and show intent. Declaring yourself a Nazi is a physical threat of harm and even death to every non Aryan that should be met with the appropriate response for any attempted assault or homicide. --- ~A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men ~ TWSSted since~ 3/27/12 https://imgur.com/zlaENmx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 12/01/18 11:54:03 AM #367: |
BigSLM1993 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...Look at these Nazi sympathizers . . . They're nazis... You're going for an "it's a slippery slope" gotcha, but it's actually basically just the beach... --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BigSLM1993 12/01/18 11:58:15 AM #368: |
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
BigSLM1993 posted...ImTheMacheteGuy posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...Look at these Nazi sympathizers . . . Dude how is it a "gotcha?" If someone hits someone in the face, they're either being arrested or they're not. And if they're not in trouble for it, then it's going to create legal precedent. That's how the judicial system works. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 12/01/18 12:00:56 PM #369: |
I really don't know why these npcs all rush in at the same time just to parrot the same arguments that have already been addressed earlier in the topic.
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Comfy_Pillow 12/01/18 12:09:38 PM #370: |
people really overreact to shit like this
This fat hillbilly I went to HS with put the confederate flag on his Jeep, Truck, and jacket and brought those things to school everyday and regularly used the N-word.Nobody attacked him (because that's fucking stupid). and guess what? Now he works at Walmart and hates his life. "but but he said word or dressed in a coat, we gotta assault him or else...stuff might....probably not happen" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 12/01/18 12:11:32 PM #371: |
Comfy_Pillow posted...
people really overreact to shit like this Wait, so he works at Walmart because nobody punched him? So do you expect this kid to be some CEO one day now that he's flossing pavement from between his teeth? --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Comfy_Pillow 12/01/18 12:12:54 PM #372: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
Wait, so he works at Walmart because nobody punched him? So do you expect this kid to be some CEO one day now that he's flossing pavement from between his teeth? I'm questioning your reading comprehension heavily right now ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 12/01/18 12:15:55 PM #373: |
Comfy_Pillow posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...Wait, so he works at Walmart because nobody punched him? So do you expect this kid to be some CEO one day now that he's flossing pavement from between his teeth? Maybe you should work on your ability to make your points more salient before getting upset at other people for responding to the things you type. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Comfy_Pillow 12/01/18 12:16:32 PM #374: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
Maybe you should work on your ability to make your points more salient before getting upset at other people for responding to the things you type. just because you didn't grasp a basic post, doesn't mean the person didn't make it clear enough. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EliteC 12/01/18 12:17:50 PM #376: |
@Dragonblade01 posted...
metralo posted..."hey being a nazi isn't a nice thing to do! but he shouldn't be punished for it because punishing him is also not nice" So, the guy wearing the Nazi uniform and calling racial slurs isnt insulting the other guy? Funny how youre focused on enforcing the dont assault part but skip the dont insult enforcement ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 12/01/18 12:18:14 PM #377: |
Comfy_Pillow posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...Maybe you should work on your ability to make your points more salient before getting upset at other people for responding to the things you type. All your post said is that nobody picked on the nazi kid at your school and he ended up at Walmart. I'm not sure what picking on or not picking on nazis has anything to do with how people respond to them when they're yelling slurs at them, but I'm sure you were just waiting for a follow up post to say anything more. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Squirtle_ 12/01/18 12:18:19 PM #378: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
Comfy_Pillow posted...A_Good_Boy posted...Wait, so he works at Walmart because nobody punched him? So do you expect this kid to be some CEO one day now that he's flossing pavement from between his teeth? He was clearly saying that if nothing happened to the Nazi kid, he would just go on to have a shitty life he hates. Because who's gonna hire or love that kid? If you want to assault him because he said a word or wore a coat you don't like....go ahead you should go to jail for it though --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Comfy_Pillow 12/01/18 12:21:47 PM #379: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
All your post said is that nobody picked on the nazi kid at your school and he ended up at Walmart. I'm not sure what picking on or not picking on nazis has anything to do with how people respond to them when they're yelling slurs at them, Why would you become all thuggish and barbaric over words or a jacket when you know 99% of these kinds of people end up with miserable lives people are so fucking sensitive. We ignored that kid and mocked him because everyone knew he was a fucking loon. Now most of us have happy lives while he's stocking shelves and cleaning toilets at Walmart. Do I need to hold your hand further? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 12/01/18 12:22:55 PM #380: |
_Squirtle_ posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...Comfy_Pillow posted...A_Good_Boy posted...Wait, so he works at Walmart because nobody punched him? So do you expect this kid to be some CEO one day now that he's flossing pavement from between his teeth? The dude that responds to fighting words isn't going to jail any longer than the dude that used fighting words to instigate the fight in the first place, so long as the response was proportionate. But OK, so he has a shitty life, plus his mouth is throwing parties and sending out invites to black people's fists. His life is less shitty for it? Lol I don't get your point either. You pro-leave-the-poor-nazi-alone have got to start doing a better job of making your points more salient. Cause now it seems like you're just swinging for the fences in a desperate attempt to shift the blame of the encounter as far away from the dude screeching out the n-word as much as possible. And it's just making you look silly. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 12/01/18 12:23:48 PM #381: |
Comfy_Pillow posted...
Why would you become all thuggish Lol I think I got the gist of both this post and any subsequent ones as well. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 12/01/18 12:26:29 PM #382: |
That kid who got punched is ugly as fuck
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spudger 12/01/18 12:26:41 PM #383: |
well this topic turned to shit
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Comfy_Pillow 12/01/18 12:27:10 PM #384: |
So you just want to piss your pants and cry every time someone says something you don't like?
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A_Good_Boy 12/01/18 12:28:31 PM #385: |
Comfy_Pillow posted...
So you just want to piss your pants and cry every time someone says something you don't like? You just gonna go and be the biggest victim every single time you see nazis eating dirt? --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 12/01/18 12:31:46 PM #386: |
TC do you support punching Antifa and other revolutionary commies too?
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Comfy_Pillow 12/01/18 12:34:04 PM #387: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
Comfy_Pillow posted...So you just want to piss your pants and cry every time someone says something you don't like? Help me understand This kid is a threat to nobody. He wears a coat and says a word you don't like. Do you really feel that weak and frightened? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 12/01/18 12:34:04 PM #388: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
TC do you support punching Antifa and other revolutionary commies too? Let it be either nazi or Antifa, white or black person, neo-nazi or hotep; those that talk shit should not be surprised when they get hit. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WizardPowers 12/01/18 12:37:49 PM #389: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
Let it be either nazi or Antifa, white or black person, neo-nazi or hotep; those that talk shit should not be surprised when they get hit. lmao how do so many wannabe tough guys end up on this board --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coastal_elite 12/01/18 12:41:12 PM #390: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
TC do you support punching Antifa and other revolutionary commies too? whataboutism: The post ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 12/01/18 12:44:46 PM #391: |
WizardPowers posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...Let it be either nazi or Antifa, white or black person, neo-nazi or hotep; those that talk shit should not be surprised when they get hit. How does that make me a tough guy? --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 12/01/18 12:53:31 PM #392: |
BigSLM1993 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...BigSLM1993 posted...ImTheMacheteGuy posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...Look at these Nazi sympathizers . . . Why are you trying to bait me into discussing what you're talking about when it's not was I was talking about and I'm only interested in pointing out the problems with that other guy's rhetoric? Keep the tangents to yourself. I'm here to criticize that other user for preaching in favor of both freedom of speech for nazis and deterrence of violence against nazis. It shows where his priorities are. "We need to fight for freedom for people to say hate speech and also need to fight for their right to have no consequences for it." You're trying to shift the conversation away from that. I won't have it. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 12/01/18 1:00:58 PM #393: |
Comfy_Pillow posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...Maybe you should work on your ability to make your points more salient before getting upset at other people for responding to the things you type. Well you're right that it is basic. "I knew a guy that did some things. Other people didn't respond a certain way. Years later the guy is this." If you didn't read his autobiography or didn't write a biography about him, you aren't making any points at all. You're listing three things about one person. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 12/01/18 1:02:34 PM #394: |
Comfy_Pillow posted...
So you just want to piss your pants and cry every time someone says something you don't like? The only thing to have an opinion about one way or another is that you think you made a point and you didn't actually. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Comfy_Pillow 12/01/18 1:05:12 PM #395: |
It's been 8 pages of shit posting by sensitive fake tough guys so not like much was lost.
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A_Good_Boy 12/01/18 1:09:08 PM #396: |
Comfy_Pillow posted...
It's been 8 pages of shit posting by sensitive fake tough guys so not like much was lost. Imagine whiffing it hard on a single post and then spending another 10 crying about it. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WizardPowers 12/01/18 1:11:39 PM #397: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
Comfy_Pillow posted...It's been 8 pages of shit posting by sensitive fake tough guys so not like much was lost. pot, meet kettle --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 12/01/18 1:12:58 PM #398: |
I can only believe that the people who are offended by people who thinks Nazis should be punched are Nazis themselves.
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Heineken14 12/01/18 1:15:15 PM #399: |
Right wingers: "don't call everyone you don't like a Nazi!"
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ImTheMacheteGuy 12/01/18 1:15:57 PM #400: |
Well in any case, we should all come together, people on both sides, and pat ourselves on the back for one thing in this topic. We have done an excellent job of saying "nazis" instead of "nazi's"
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