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Paper_Okami
11/24/18 4:32:55 PM
#51:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
bunch of fucking socialists whining about gentrification

must be a saturday on CE


lmao you are too predictable
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Manocheese
11/24/18 4:33:40 PM
#52:


Paper_Okami posted...
Most people we talked to said they keep on raising rents. One person they talked to said it was up to 1800 a month. Which is ridiculous. Bad location, and not a high standard of housing.

If it's a bad location with a low standard of living, why are they choosing to pay $1800 a month to live there?
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a-c-a-b
11/24/18 4:33:50 PM
#53:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
bunch of fucking socialists whining about gentrification

must be a saturday on CE

I still refuse to believe that Proudclad actually has a job and doesn't live with his parents.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/24/18 4:34:26 PM
#54:


Paper_Okami posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
bunch of fucking socialists whining about gentrification

must be a saturday on CE


lmao you are too predictable

Now that hes out of arguments, how many posts will he make itt containing the words communist or socialist? Over/under on 15.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/24/18 4:34:31 PM
#55:


treewojima posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
the south side of chicago used to be a shitty slum

thanks to gentrification you can now actually walk around and let your kids play outside and no one will get shot


you can make the neighborhood safe without pushing poor people out you know?


gentrification does not necessarily push people out

it makes the property and investments more valuable because the area increased in value

quit pretending you care about the poor


but if income/opportunity doesn't increase alongside property value, it will inevitably favor replacement of existing tenants that can no longer afford the property


gentrification brings more and new businesses into the area

like how Englewood in Chicago now has a Starbucks and a Whole Foods and tons more shops moving in

rather than the violent slum and food desert that was there before
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King_Hellebuyck
11/24/18 4:36:00 PM
#56:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
treewojima posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
the south side of chicago used to be a shitty slum

thanks to gentrification you can now actually walk around and let your kids play outside and no one will get shot


you can make the neighborhood safe without pushing poor people out you know?


gentrification does not necessarily push people out

it makes the property and investments more valuable because the area increased in value

quit pretending you care about the poor


but if income/opportunity doesn't increase alongside property value, it will inevitably favor replacement of existing tenants that can no longer afford the property


gentrification brings more and new businesses into the area

like how Englewood in Chicago now has a Starbucks and a Whole Foods and tons more shops moving in

rather than the violent slum and food desert that was there before

Its amazing how many times youve already used this deflection in this topic alone.
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Paper_Okami
11/24/18 4:36:40 PM
#57:


Manocheese posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Most people we talked to said they keep on raising rents. One person they talked to said it was up to 1800 a month. Which is ridiculous. Bad location, and not a high standard of housing.

If it's a bad location with a low standard of living, why are they choosing to pay $1800 a month to live there?


Because Boston is absurdly expensive.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/24/18 4:37:36 PM
#58:


Oh shit didnt realize you were in Boston, which new T stop? Boston Landing?
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Paper_Okami
11/24/18 4:38:03 PM
#59:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Oh shit didnt realize you were in Boston, which new T stop? Boston Landing?


It's in Mattapan
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Manocheese
11/24/18 4:38:48 PM
#60:


Paper_Okami posted...
Manocheese posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Most people we talked to said they keep on raising rents. One person they talked to said it was up to 1800 a month. Which is ridiculous. Bad location, and not a high standard of housing.

If it's a bad location with a low standard of living, why are they choosing to pay $1800 a month to live there?


Because Boston is absurdly expensive.

They're living in an expensive area because it's expensive, then whining that it's expensive?
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treewojima
11/24/18 4:39:28 PM
#62:


Manocheese posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Most people we talked to said they keep on raising rents. One person they talked to said it was up to 1800 a month. Which is ridiculous. Bad location, and not a high standard of housing.

If it's a bad location with a low standard of living, why are they choosing to pay $1800 a month to live there?


because moving is expensive and requires a huge amount of refactoring for transportation, work and various other things. it's also a huge stressor for children
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King_Hellebuyck
11/24/18 4:40:18 PM
#63:


Paper_Okami posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Oh shit didnt realize you were in Boston, which new T stop? Boston Landing?


It's in Mattapan

Oh right, forgot they were doing new shit in there too. Keep up the good fight!
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Paper_Okami
11/24/18 4:40:31 PM
#64:


Manocheese posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Manocheese posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Most people we talked to said they keep on raising rents. One person they talked to said it was up to 1800 a month. Which is ridiculous. Bad location, and not a high standard of housing.

If it's a bad location with a low standard of living, why are they choosing to pay $1800 a month to live there?


Because Boston is absurdly expensive.

They're living in an expensive area because it's expensive, then whining that it's expensive?


not like they have much of a choice, MA is very expensive for the most part, and it's not a lot of people don't really have the opportunity to move states, nor should they be expected to.
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AlephZero
11/24/18 4:41:26 PM
#65:


they should learn how to program and move to an area that's hiring
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Paper_Okami
11/24/18 4:41:34 PM
#66:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Oh shit didnt realize you were in Boston, which new T stop? Boston Landing?


It's in Mattapan

Oh right, forgot they were doing new shit in there too. Keep up the good fight!


Yeah it pisses me off it's literally the poorest neighborhood in boston, heavily immigrant and the prices are that bad and getting worse it's ridiculous.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/24/18 4:43:29 PM
#67:


Paper_Okami posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Oh shit didnt realize you were in Boston, which new T stop? Boston Landing?


It's in Mattapan

Oh right, forgot they were doing new shit in there too. Keep up the good fight!


Yeah it pisses me off it's literally the poorest neighborhood in boston, heavily immigrant and the prices are that bad and getting worse it's ridiculous.

Yeah exactly, definitey an area that can be taken advantage of unfortunately. Do you have tenant rights packets that you could send me by chance? My new band is making gentrification a big part of our message and some literature would be nice to hand out once we start gigging in the spring.
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Paper_Okami
11/24/18 4:45:01 PM
#68:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Oh shit didnt realize you were in Boston, which new T stop? Boston Landing?


It's in Mattapan

Oh right, forgot they were doing new shit in there too. Keep up the good fight!


Yeah it pisses me off it's literally the poorest neighborhood in boston, heavily immigrant and the prices are that bad and getting worse it's ridiculous.

Yeah exactly, definitey an area that can be taken advantage of unfortunately. Do you have tenant rights packets that you could send me by chance? My new band is making gentrification a big part of our message and some literature would be nice to hand out once we start gigging in the spring.


i don't have any personally but here is the organization we were repping

http://www.clvu.org/

probably stuff there. All 5 of us doing the canvassing are part of Boston DSA as well.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/24/18 4:49:56 PM
#69:


Awesome, thanks. This is something I definitely need to start educating myself on more. The housing problems in Boston keep getting worse and worse, everything is getting torn down and replaced with luxury condos. The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced and its so damn sad to watch.
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Paper_Okami
11/24/18 4:53:48 PM
#70:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Awesome, thanks. This is something I definitely need to start educating myself on more. The housing problems in Boston keep getting worse and worse, everything is getting torn down and replaced with luxury condos. The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced and its so damn sad to watch.


yeah i mean you can always come to boston DSA housing meetings if you have time. We meet monthly

https://www.bostondsa.org/events/2018-12/

not general meeting is on the 15th housing 2 days later
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legendary_zell
11/24/18 4:56:03 PM
#71:


You are doing great work TC, don't let the sociopaths tell you any different.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/24/18 4:56:25 PM
#72:


Paper_Okami posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Awesome, thanks. This is something I definitely need to start educating myself on more. The housing problems in Boston keep getting worse and worse, everything is getting torn down and replaced with luxury condos. The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced and its so damn sad to watch.


yeah i mean you can always come to boston DSA housing meetings if you have time. We meet monthly

https://www.bostondsa.org/events/2018-12/

not general meeting is on the 15th housing 2 days later

I live out in suburbia and already need to commute it 3 or 4 times per week for work and band practice so Im not really dripping with free time but Ill definitely pass the info on to my guitarist.
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Paper_Okami
11/24/18 4:57:31 PM
#73:


legendary_zell posted...
You are doing great work TC, don't let the sociopaths tell you any different.


dankeKing_Hellebuyck posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Awesome, thanks. This is something I definitely need to start educating myself on more. The housing problems in Boston keep getting worse and worse, everything is getting torn down and replaced with luxury condos. The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced and its so damn sad to watch.


yeah i mean you can always come to boston DSA housing meetings if you have time. We meet monthly

https://www.bostondsa.org/events/2018-12/

not general meeting is on the 15th housing 2 days later

I live out in suburbia and already need to commute it 3 or 4 times per week for work and band practice so Im not really dripping with free time but Ill definitely pass the info on to my guitarist.


yeah no problem man

And yeah if your guitarist shows up that's cool always interested in having new people, lots of work to be done.
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treewojima
11/24/18 4:59:02 PM
#74:


rent in my area is literally $1000/mo for a single room apartment on the cheaper side, due to our proximity to a multitude of defense contractors and IT gigs. a lot of families choose to band together and live in houses packed to the gills, especially Hispanic families

it's not like I live in a nice area either, it's basically a giant strip mall. but due to its proximity to nicer areas and big business costs have skyrocketed. public transit is nonexistent outside of the DC Metro too
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Manocheese
11/24/18 5:06:56 PM
#75:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
The housing problems in Boston keep getting worse and worse, everything is getting torn down and replaced with luxury condos. The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced and its so damn sad to watch.

So the low-quality apartments are being replaced with high-quality apartments? How is that a bad thing?
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Paper_Okami
11/24/18 5:07:21 PM
#76:


Manocheese posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
The housing problems in Boston keep getting worse and worse, everything is getting torn down and replaced with luxury condos. The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced and its so damn sad to watch.

So the low-quality apartments are being replaced with high-quality apartments? How is that a bad thing?


because most people can't afford a fucking luxury condo
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Manocheese
11/24/18 5:08:41 PM
#77:


Paper_Okami posted...
Manocheese posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
The housing problems in Boston keep getting worse and worse, everything is getting torn down and replaced with luxury condos. The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced and its so damn sad to watch.

So the low-quality apartments are being replaced with high-quality apartments? How is that a bad thing?


because most people can't afford a fucking luxury condo

So what? If they don't think it's worth the money, they don't have to buy it. I don't complain about people flying around in private jets just because I can't afford one.
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NightMarishPie
11/24/18 5:09:43 PM
#79:


Manocheese posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Manocheese posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
The housing problems in Boston keep getting worse and worse, everything is getting torn down and replaced with luxury condos. The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced and its so damn sad to watch.

So the low-quality apartments are being replaced with high-quality apartments? How is that a bad thing?


because most people can't afford a fucking luxury condo

So what? If they don't think it's worth the money, they don't have to buy it. I don't complain about people flying around in private jets just because I can't afford one.

You have to try harder than that.
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DifferentialEquation
11/24/18 5:15:53 PM
#80:


liberals: "lol, screw the coal miners! It's a dying industry and they need to get with the times. So what if they lose their jobs."

*5 minutes later

liberals: "Omg! We must bend over backwards to accommodate people who chose to live in the same crummy neighborhoods for years (sometimes generation) and not better their situation all! How dare someone buy property, invest in it, and then sell/rent it at a higher price!"
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King_Hellebuyck
11/24/18 5:17:15 PM
#81:


Manocheese posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
The housing problems in Boston keep getting worse and worse, everything is getting torn down and replaced with luxury condos. The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced and its so damn sad to watch.

So the low-quality apartments are being replaced with high-quality apartments? How is that a bad thing?

The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced
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Manocheese
11/24/18 6:02:44 PM
#82:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Manocheese posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
The housing problems in Boston keep getting worse and worse, everything is getting torn down and replaced with luxury condos. The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced and its so damn sad to watch.

So the low-quality apartments are being replaced with high-quality apartments? How is that a bad thing?

The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced

Some people are moving in and others are moving out, just like any city at any time in human history. How is the city "losing its soul"? Do the people moving in not have souls?
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King_Hellebuyck
11/24/18 6:06:36 PM
#83:


Manocheese posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Manocheese posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
The housing problems in Boston keep getting worse and worse, everything is getting torn down and replaced with luxury condos. The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced and its so damn sad to watch.

So the low-quality apartments are being replaced with high-quality apartments? How is that a bad thing?

The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced

Some people are moving in and others are moving out, just like any city at any time in human history. How is the city "losing its soul"? Do the people moving in not have souls?

You cant just write off the displacement of long time residents because its inconvenient.
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Manocheese
11/24/18 6:10:10 PM
#84:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Manocheese posted...
Some people are moving in and others are moving out, just like any city at any time in human history. How is the city "losing its soul"? Do the people moving in not have souls?

You cant just write off the displacement of long time residents because its inconvenient.

What difference does it make if they've rented property there for a while? If they don't own the place, the owner has every right to rent to someone else who's willing to pay more.
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Axiom
11/24/18 6:13:06 PM
#85:


The world needs more people like TC
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King_Hellebuyck
11/24/18 6:15:49 PM
#86:


Manocheese posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Manocheese posted...
Some people are moving in and others are moving out, just like any city at any time in human history. How is the city "losing its soul"? Do the people moving in not have souls?

You cant just write off the displacement of long time residents because its inconvenient.

What difference does it make if they've rented property there for a while? If they don't own the place, the owner has every right to rent to someone else who's willing to pay more.

Because theyve been living, working, and spending money there. Theyve been contributing to the culture and adding to the city. And now theyre being priced out, which sucks for them. Theyll be forced away from their jobs and away from their childrens schools, away from their communities and friends.

You can sit here pretending that theres nothing bad about that but I dont think anyone in this topic is dumb enough to believe it.
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Thaddeus_J_Pibb
11/24/18 6:16:14 PM
#87:


Buy land and property. Problem solved
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DifferentialEquation
11/24/18 6:32:33 PM
#88:


Thaddeus_J_Pibb posted...
Buy land and property. Problem solved


But people should be entitled to rent someone else's property at a cheap price for as long as they want.
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kayoticdreamz
11/24/18 6:39:30 PM
#89:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Manocheese posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Manocheese posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
The housing problems in Boston keep getting worse and worse, everything is getting torn down and replaced with luxury condos. The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced and its so damn sad to watch.

So the low-quality apartments are being replaced with high-quality apartments? How is that a bad thing?

The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced

Some people are moving in and others are moving out, just like any city at any time in human history. How is the city "losing its soul"? Do the people moving in not have souls?

You cant just write off the displacement of long time residents because its inconvenient.

So are you for or against open borders and amnesty?

Because our open border policy is literally causing displacement.

I just want to see if you're consistent
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King_Hellebuyck
11/24/18 7:55:53 PM
#90:


kayoticdreamz posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Manocheese posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Manocheese posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
The housing problems in Boston keep getting worse and worse, everything is getting torn down and replaced with luxury condos. The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced and its so damn sad to watch.

So the low-quality apartments are being replaced with high-quality apartments? How is that a bad thing?

The city is losing its fucking soul while people are being displaced

Some people are moving in and others are moving out, just like any city at any time in human history. How is the city "losing its soul"? Do the people moving in not have souls?

You cant just write off the displacement of long time residents because its inconvenient.

So are you for or against open borders and amnesty?

Because our open border policy is literally causing displacement.

I just want to see if you're consistent

There is no open border policy.
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Manocheese
11/24/18 8:10:09 PM
#91:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Manocheese posted...
What difference does it make if they've rented property there for a while? If they don't own the place, the owner has every right to rent to someone else who's willing to pay more.

Because theyve been living, working, and spending money there. Theyve been contributing to the culture and adding to the city. And now theyre being priced out, which sucks for them. Theyll be forced away from their jobs and away from their childrens schools, away from their communities and friends.

You can sit here pretending that theres nothing bad about that but I dont think anyone in this topic is dumb enough to believe it.

The new people also live, work, and spend money there. They also contribute to the culture and add to the city. They also have jobs and have children in schools. They also have friends. Why should someone get special treatment just because they've lived there longer?
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a-c-a-b
11/24/18 8:11:58 PM
#92:


This made me think of Ryan Harvey doing a great cover of Woodie Guthries - Old Man Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmZnlGBhwKg" data-time="

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butthole666
11/24/18 8:14:34 PM
#93:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
deupd_u posted...
How dare someone invest in real estate. What a jerk.


Trying to push poor people out of housing by raising rents is scumfuck behavior

One woman even said her place has rodents, which is a health hazard.


How dare people try to make a profit

Making a profit by killing others is wrong, mmmkay
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AlephZero
11/24/18 8:15:55 PM
#94:


having to find a new place to live is basically death
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Paper_Okami
11/24/18 8:24:07 PM
#95:


AlephZero posted...
having to find a new place to live is basically death


http://news.rice.edu/2015/03/09/eviction-can-result-in-depression-poorer-health-and-higher-stress-according-to-new-rice-and-harvard-study-2/
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butthole666
11/24/18 8:24:44 PM
#96:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
bunch of fucking socialists whining about gentrification

must be a saturday on CE

Go back to posting unhinged jesus rants on youtube where you had clearly been awake for several days straight
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Paper_Okami
11/24/18 8:28:18 PM
#97:


butthole666 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
bunch of fucking socialists whining about gentrification

must be a saturday on CE

Go back to posting unhinged jesus rants on youtube where you had clearly been awake for several days straight


wtf he has youtube jesus rants?

that sounds great lmao
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butthole666
11/24/18 9:20:56 PM
#98:


Back in the proudclad days
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Paper_Okami
11/24/18 9:22:45 PM
#99:


butthole666 posted...
Back in the proudclad days


i wanna seee
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a-c-a-b
11/24/18 10:22:43 PM
#100:


Bullet_Wing posted...
a-c-a-b posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
bunch of fucking socialists whining about gentrification

must be a saturday on CE

I still refuse to believe that Proudclad actually has a job and doesn't live with his parents.

Me too. Dude is an armchair economist whose posts make it seem like he has zero real world experience. Just whines about socialism/communism every chance he gets

*ting* *smashes the hammer down on the head*
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