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Zikten
11/22/18 3:50:19 PM
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Harpuia posted...
Of course people are blaming the missionary that was trying to help them.

help them in what way? they are happy with their way of life. also, people have mentioned that he could have wiped them out with a disease. they may all be sick and dying RIGHT NOW for all we know. just cause one fucker set foot on their island
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hockeybub89
11/22/18 3:51:31 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Another topic full of Christianity hatred, yay.

Muslims and Jews shouldn't try to convert people either. Neither should Hindus or Wiccans. Scientology should be raided by the police.
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hockeybub89
11/22/18 3:52:13 PM
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Harpuia posted...
Of course people are blaming the missionary that was trying to help them.

Help them what? Praise Jesus? Were they asking? These people live in a time warp. They don't even know the outside world has evolved.
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A_Good_Boy
11/22/18 3:53:47 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Another topic full of Christianity hatred, yay.

Muslims and Jews shouldn't try to convert people either. Neither should Hindus or Wiccans. Scientology should be raided by the police.

Don't you already look down on members of those religions that push their religions on people that tell them that they want nothing to do with it, yet still persist in their efforts?

Are you assigning Christianity an exemption on stuff that you think is disrespectful?
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hockeybub89
11/22/18 3:54:58 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Another topic full of Christianity hatred, yay.

Muslims and Jews shouldn't try to convert people either. Neither should Hindus or Wiccans. Scientology should be raided by the police.

Don't you already look down on members of those religions that push their religions on people that tell them that they want nothing to do with it, yet still persist in their efforts?

Are you assigning Christianity an exemption on stuff that you think is disrespectful?

Yes.
No.
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monkmith
11/22/18 3:55:04 PM
#57:


CommonStar posted...
I think another sad part about this is that he had desires of converting the indigenous people since high school. Like he so strongly believed he could convert and "save" these people despite them living contently isolated on their island which pretty much is their entire world. The arrogance of some religion.

It's tragic he died, and I don't condone or praise the Sentinelese killing him. But I understand how it could have happen, and I don't think retribution would accomplish anything.

getting rid of the sentinelese wouldn't be retribution, it would be common sense at this point. they've killed people who's boats broke down near their island, people who did shit all and had really bad luck.
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Zikten
11/22/18 3:56:38 PM
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monkmith posted...
getting rid of the sentinelese wouldn't be retribution, it would be common sense at this point. they've killed people who's boats broke down near their island, people who did shit all and had really bad luck.

set up a better parimeter so patrols can keep an eye out and rescue people like that. make a coast guard that focuses on catching people who might accidently or willingly go there, and stop or rescue them before they reach the island. we don't need to commit genocide.
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A_Good_Boy
11/22/18 3:57:37 PM
#59:


hockeybub89 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Another topic full of Christianity hatred, yay.

Muslims and Jews shouldn't try to convert people either. Neither should Hindus or Wiccans. Scientology should be raided by the police.

Don't you already look down on members of those religions that push their religions on people that tell them that they want nothing to do with it, yet still persist in their efforts?

Are you assigning Christianity an exemption on stuff that you think is disrespectful?

Yes.
No.

So what's your issue then?
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monkmith
11/22/18 4:02:39 PM
#60:


Zikten posted...
monkmith posted...
getting rid of the sentinelese wouldn't be retribution, it would be common sense at this point. they've killed people who's boats broke down near their island, people who did shit all and had really bad luck.

set up a better parameter so patrols can keep an eye out and rescue people like that. make a coast guard that focuses on catching people who might accidently or willingly go there, and stop or rescue them before they reach the island. we don't need to commit genocide.

we're talking about what amounts to a gang of psychopaths, not a large thriving civilization unfairly being taken advantage of.
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Zikten
11/22/18 4:05:34 PM
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think of it from their point of view. they don't understand and are scared. they aren't killing out of a desire to murder people. they just are protecting themselves. when they see outsiders they probably think they are coming to kill them
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A_Good_Boy
11/22/18 4:07:29 PM
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monkmith posted...
Zikten posted...
monkmith posted...
getting rid of the sentinelese wouldn't be retribution, it would be common sense at this point. they've killed people who's boats broke down near their island, people who did shit all and had really bad luck.

set up a better parameter so patrols can keep an eye out and rescue people like that. make a coast guard that focuses on catching people who might accidently or willingly go there, and stop or rescue them before they reach the island. we don't need to commit genocide.

we're talking about what amounts to a gang of psychopaths, not a large thriving civilization unfairly being taken advantage of.

They're not a gang of psycho paths, they're acting just like every other sovereign nation does when interlopers won't stay out of their borders. What nation on this planet can you think of that won't react with force or violence against people that won't stop invading?
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CommonStar
11/22/18 4:08:11 PM
#63:


monkmith posted...
CommonStar posted...
I think another sad part about this is that he had desires of converting the indigenous people since high school. Like he so strongly believed he could convert and "save" these people despite them living contently isolated on their island which pretty much is their entire world. The arrogance of some religion.

It's tragic he died, and I don't condone or praise the Sentinelese killing him. But I understand how it could have happen, and I don't think retribution would accomplish anything.

getting rid of the sentinelese wouldn't be retribution, it would be common sense at this point. they've killed people who's boats broke down near their island, people who did shit all and had really bad luck.

Two documented incidents of killing by the Sentinelese and you're ready to murder their entire tribe.
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Ryuko_Chan
11/22/18 4:16:00 PM
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SaithSayer posted...
Ryuko_Chan posted...
they literally killed this dude for giving them a football and a fish, fucked up that people are so quick to defend them

They shot AT HIM the day before. They made it very clear that he wasn't welcome. He came back. They killed him for not heeding a VERY CLEAR warning.

Oh, didnt realize that. In that case, its unfortunate he died but hes also dumb.
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hockeybub89
11/22/18 4:22:33 PM
#65:


A_Good_Boy posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Another topic full of Christianity hatred, yay.

Muslims and Jews shouldn't try to convert people either. Neither should Hindus or Wiccans. Scientology should be raided by the police.

Don't you already look down on members of those religions that push their religions on people that tell them that they want nothing to do with it, yet still persist in their efforts?

Are you assigning Christianity an exemption on stuff that you think is disrespectful?

Yes.
No.

So what's your issue then?

My issue with what? I was getting on D_U for turning this into some Christian pity party. I think people here would be against any religion doing this. He thinks we'd see a bunch of outrage if a Muslim got killed or something.
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P4wn4g3
11/22/18 4:43:31 PM
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lol sage how is your buddy Alex Jones today
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P4wn4g3
11/22/18 4:51:40 PM
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GregShmedley posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
lol sage how is your buddy Alex Jones today


Pretty sure you are the only one who things I'm Sage and I've never given any indication that I support that psycho.

It's Thanksgiving, dude. Think we can conduct ourselves like an adult for a few hours today?

I was talking to user Harpuia who is sage. But if you want to get all defensive because the shoe fits go right ahead
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TheOlJollyRoger
11/22/18 4:52:39 PM
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Ryuko_Chan posted...
they literally killed this dude for giving them a football and a fish, fucked up that people are so quick to defend them

A bacteria covered tribe eliminating football and fish.
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Orlando_Jordan
11/22/18 4:56:25 PM
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The Sentinelese are not good people. The Christian missionary is also not a good person. Leave them alone on their version of Alcatraz.
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P4wn4g3
11/22/18 4:56:35 PM
#73:


GregShmedley posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
GregShmedley posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
lol sage how is your buddy Alex Jones today


Pretty sure you are the only one who things I'm Sage and I've never given any indication that I support that psycho.

It's Thanksgiving, dude. Think we can conduct ourselves like an adult for a few hours today?

I was talking to user Harpuia who is sage. But if you want to get all defensive because the shoe fits go right ahead


Ah, my mistake. Didn't notice him at that top; and considering you responded minutes after my post (versus quoting) and our last exchange ended with you calling me an Alex Jones supporter and the alt of alt-right troll....

I mean like I said if the shoe fits
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hockeybub89
11/22/18 5:03:36 PM
#76:


GregShmedley posted...
I don't think that means we should condemn Islamic missionaries.

Why not?
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VipaGTS
11/22/18 5:08:22 PM
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I just find it kind of odd that some of the same people on CE i see arguing that what the tribe did was wrong have argued in the past that shooting a fleeing intruder is fair game "just in case". Now personally I don't think you should shoot or kill someone who is fleeing, but if you absolutely need to I can understand using extreme force in defense of your home...But you all can't have it both ways.

I still think the bigger issue here is with the missionary. they knew it was dangerous, they knew what could happen...and they were still fine with him going, he was still fine with going. Why? Just let them live and stop trying to force a religion on people in this context.
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QwelzaarKane
11/22/18 5:10:58 PM
#78:


VipaGTS posted...
just find it kind of odd that some of the same people on CE i see arguing that what the tribe did was wrong have argued in the past that shooting a fleeing intruder is fair game "just in case". Now personally I don't think you should shoot or kill someone who is fleeing, but if you absolutely need to I can understand using extreme force in defense of your home...But you all can't have it both ways.


I'm also curious about the overlap between people who see no issue with what the missionary did and those who are passionately against people illegally entering the US.
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CommonStar
11/22/18 5:15:33 PM
#79:


VipaGTS posted...
I just find it kind of odd that some of the same people on CE i see arguing that what the tribe did was wrong have argued in the past that shooting a fleeing intruder is fair game "just in case". Now personally I don't think you should shoot or kill someone who is fleeing, but if you absolutely need to I can understand using extreme force in defense of your home...But you all can't have it both ways.

I still think the bigger issue here is with the missionary. they knew it was dangerous, they knew what could happen...and they were still fine with him going, he was still fine with going. Why? Just let them live and stop trying to force a religion on people in this context.

I suspect he wanted to be a martyr. You can see a few pastors on twitter already calling him a 'hero.'
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LightHawKnight
11/22/18 5:20:55 PM
#80:


Zikten posted...
monkmith posted...
getting rid of the sentinelese wouldn't be retribution, it would be common sense at this point. they've killed people who's boats broke down near their island, people who did shit all and had really bad luck.

set up a better parimeter so patrols can keep an eye out and rescue people like that. make a coast guard that focuses on catching people who might accidently or willingly go there, and stop or rescue them before they reach the island. we don't need to commit genocide.


Why waste a ton of money and manpower for that when most people wont go there anyways? Most people have the common sense to not go to a place that will kill them, specially after talking to people who tell you that you will die if you go there.
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Bloodychess
11/22/18 5:28:03 PM
#81:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
GregShmedley posted...
Pretty weird how certain users seem to be almost giddy at justifying this dude's death...

No ones praising his death. Stop shitposting.

They sure arent mourning it lol
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gunplagirl
11/22/18 5:28:32 PM
#82:


QwelzaarKane posted...
VipaGTS posted...
just find it kind of odd that some of the same people on CE i see arguing that what the tribe did was wrong have argued in the past that shooting a fleeing intruder is fair game "just in case". Now personally I don't think you should shoot or kill someone who is fleeing, but if you absolutely need to I can understand using extreme force in defense of your home...But you all can't have it both ways.


I'm also curious about the overlap between people who see no issue with what the missionary did and those who are passionately against people illegally entering the US.

It's okay when Christians do it and it's okay when white people do it

It's the same reason they care about white people losing their farmland in South Africa but defend the ancestors of the white farmers who stole said land to begin with

White people destroy south America, that's okay. The people fleeing that rubble though, they're bad because well. Racism.
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Bloodychess
11/22/18 5:31:55 PM
#83:


gunplagirl posted...
It's the same reason they care about white people losing their farmland in South Africa but defend the ancestors of the white farmers who stole said land to begin with

*bought
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QtPatootie462
11/22/18 5:33:53 PM
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How did this tribe survive colonialism?
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Zikten
11/22/18 5:42:59 PM
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QtPatootie462 posted...
How did this tribe survive colonialism?


I think nobody just ever needed to go there. no colonies cared about that island so they were untouched. and now they are in modern india where most people are hindus and don't care about spreading their faith to some islanders. if India was a christian nation, they probably would have invaded them centuries ago
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_OujiDoza_
11/22/18 6:01:28 PM
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Bananana posted...
just means that the religion is shitty and should be removed

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Slayer2111
11/22/18 6:18:52 PM
#88:


GregShmedley posted...
Pretty weird how certain users seem to be almost giddy at justifying this dude's death...


Im not giddy at it, but it was one hundred percent justified.
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Tyranthraxus
11/22/18 6:26:01 PM
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Jesus begged God to forgive the Romans as they were killing him. He definitely wasn't like "y'all need to come back with an army and murder all these mofos"
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ShangDoh
11/22/18 6:29:23 PM
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That island is restricted for a good reason.
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Kinny100
11/22/18 7:03:05 PM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46293221

Officials say the islanders have lived in isolation for nearly 60,000 years and therefore have no immunities to common illnesses such as the flu and measles.

Advocacy group Survival International said that by contacting the community, Chau may have passed along pathogens that have the "potential to wipeout the entire tribe" of about 50 to 150 people.


this guy was a full moron. he deserved to die.
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gunplagirl
11/22/18 7:22:26 PM
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Bloodychess posted...
gunplagirl posted...
It's the same reason they care about white people losing their farmland in South Africa but defend the ancestors of the white farmers who stole said land to begin with

*bought

They bought it from people who stole it

Unless you're saying I can invade your house, sell the deed to a third party and then have the third party impart the deed to me as a gift

In which case, I have a house to sell you
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Tyranthraxus
11/22/18 7:32:12 PM
#94:


gunplagirl posted...
Bloodychess posted...
gunplagirl posted...
It's the same reason they care about white people losing their farmland in South Africa but defend the ancestors of the white farmers who stole said land to begin with

*bought

They bought it from people who stole it

Unless you're saying I can invade your house, sell the deed to a third party and then have the third party impart the deed to me as a gift

In which case, I have a house to sell you


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BlingBling22947
11/24/18 7:45:36 PM
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Kinda weird tho that in civilized society a preacher is killed (instead of being told to screw off) and the killers are unprosecuted as if they don't live on the planet Earth . . . just saying.

I'm of mixed feelings on this
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Ryuko_Chan
11/25/18 1:51:36 AM
#96:


^ true
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QwelzaarKane
11/25/18 4:36:39 PM
#97:


BlingBling22947 posted...
Kinda weird tho that in civilized society a preacher is killed (instead of being told to screw off) and the killers are unprosecuted as if they don't live on the planet Earth . . . just saying.

I'm of mixed feelings on this


It's not at all weird. Outsiders aren't welcome and they legally aren't allowed there. His visit could potentially wipe out the entire tribe. There's nothing to do except learn to stay away from the fucking island.
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SaithSayer
11/26/18 10:20:14 AM
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Is rescue the word you want there?
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