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catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:04:34 AM #52:	The23rdMagus posted... I think aversion therapy is loathsome, but I wonder if it's possible to make techniques more humane and aim them towards a good purpose. you don't need aversion therapy. you need to show them and teach them why going after their desires is harmful and wrong for the children. appeal to their heart --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378321] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>The23rdMagus posted...</cite> <quote>I think aversion therapy is loathsome, but I wonder if it's possible to make techniques more humane and aim them towards a good purpose.</quote> you don't need aversion therapy. you need to show them and teach them why going after their desires is harmful and wrong for the children. appeal to their heart</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:05:51 AM #53:	everyone has a heart --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378346] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote>everyone has a heart</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nidhoggr 11/14/18 5:06:54 AM #54:	So as time goes on we are always told to accept people for who they are, you can't change how you were born, etc. Gay people are born gay so we accept them, right? Why do we vilify pedophiles? They had no choice in becoming one. <cite>Nidhoggr posted [p:912378358] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote>So as time goes on we are always told to accept people for who they are, you can't change how you were born, etc. Gay people are born gay so we accept them, right? Why do we vilify pedophiles? They had no choice in becoming one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 11/14/18 5:07:05 AM #55:	catboy0_0 posted... The23rdMagus posted... I think aversion therapy is loathsome, but I wonder if it's possible to make techniques more humane and aim them towards a good purpose. you don't need aversion therapy. you need to show them and teach them why going after their desires is harmful and wrong for the children. appeal to their heart The problem with appealing to their heart, is that their heart is saying "Hey, go molest some kids." --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:912378361] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The23rdMagus posted...</cite> <quote>I think aversion therapy is loathsome, but I wonder if it's possible to make techniques more humane and aim them towards a good purpose.</quote> you don't need aversion therapy. you need to show them and teach them why going after their desires is harmful and wrong for the children. appeal to their heart</quote> The problem with appealing to their heart, is that their heart is saying "Hey, go molest some kids."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:07:17 AM #56:	Nidhoggr posted... So as time goes on we are always told to accept people for who they are, you can't change how you were born, etc. Gay people are born gay so we accept them, right? Why do we vilify pedophiles? They had no choice in becoming one. exactly. you help those that need help --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378364] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nidhoggr posted...</cite> <quote>So as time goes on we are always told to accept people for who they are, you can't change how you were born, etc. Gay people are born gay so we accept them, right? Why do we vilify pedophiles? They had no choice in becoming one.</quote> exactly. you help those that need help</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:07:37 AM #57:	Ryo_the_Inferno posted... catboy0_0 posted... The23rdMagus posted... I think aversion therapy is loathsome, but I wonder if it's possible to make techniques more humane and aim them towards a good purpose. you don't need aversion therapy. you need to show them and teach them why going after their desires is harmful and wrong for the children. appeal to their heart The problem with appealing to their heart, is that their heart is saying "Hey, go molest some kids." no, that isn't the true heart --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378369] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The23rdMagus posted...</cite> <quote>I think aversion therapy is loathsome, but I wonder if it's possible to make techniques more humane and aim them towards a good purpose.</quote> you don't need aversion therapy. you need to show them and teach them why going after their desires is harmful and wrong for the children. appeal to their heart</quote> The problem with appealing to their heart, is that their heart is saying "Hey, go molest some kids."</quote> no, that isn't the true heart</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:08:55 AM #58:	lust isn't the truth and the heart is deeper than that --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378389] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote>lust isn't the truth and the heart is deeper than that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 11/14/18 5:09:07 AM #59:	catboy0_0 posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... catboy0_0 posted... The23rdMagus posted... I think aversion therapy is loathsome, but I wonder if it's possible to make techniques more humane and aim them towards a good purpose. you don't need aversion therapy. you need to show them and teach them why going after their desires is harmful and wrong for the children. appeal to their heart The problem with appealing to their heart, is that their heart is saying "Hey, go molest some kids." no, that isn't the true heart Just because you believe that, doesn't make it so. Nidhoggr posted... So as time goes on we are always told to accept people for who they are, you can't change how you were born, etc. Gay people are born gay so we accept them, right? Why do we vilify pedophiles? They had no choice in becoming one. Don't vilify pedophiles. They haven't really done anything wrong. Vilify child molesters, a good number of which were never pedophiles in the first place. They just enjoy hurting people that can't fight back. --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:912378395] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The23rdMagus posted...</cite> <quote>I think aversion therapy is loathsome, but I wonder if it's possible to make techniques more humane and aim them towards a good purpose.</quote> you don't need aversion therapy. you need to show them and teach them why going after their desires is harmful and wrong for the children. appeal to their heart</quote> The problem with appealing to their heart, is that their heart is saying "Hey, go molest some kids."</quote> no, that isn't the true heart</quote> Just because you believe that, doesn't make it so. <cite>Nidhoggr posted...</cite> <quote>So as time goes on we are always told to accept people for who they are, you can't change how you were born, etc. Gay people are born gay so we accept them, right? Why do we vilify pedophiles? They had no choice in becoming one.</quote> Don't vilify pedophiles. They haven't really done anything wrong. Vilify child molesters, a good number of which were never pedophiles in the first place. They just enjoy hurting people that can't fight back.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:09:46 AM #60:	Ryo_the_Inferno posted... Just because you believe that, doesn't make it so. sex is just sex. you can learn to respect children as not sex objects and that they deserve to live their lives without your perversion --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378402] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote>Just because you believe that, doesn't make it so.</quote> sex is just sex. you can learn to respect children as not sex objects and that they deserve to live their lives without your perversion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 11/14/18 5:13:01 AM #61:	catboy0_0 posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... Just because you believe that, doesn't make it so. sex is just sex. you can learn to respect children as not sex objects and that they deserve to live their lives without your perversion pedophilia isn't just about sex. Alot of pedophiles explain how they can't love an adult and can only feel romantic love for children. It goes beyond lust. Oversimplifying it with pleasant seeming platitudes, like you are, doesn't help anyone on either side of the topic. --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:912378457] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote>Just because you believe that, doesn't make it so.</quote> sex is just sex. you can learn to respect children as not sex objects and that they deserve to live their lives without your perversion</quote> pedophilia isn't just about sex. Alot of pedophiles explain how they can't love an adult and can only feel romantic love for children. It goes beyond lust. Oversimplifying it with pleasant seeming platitudes, like you are, doesn't help anyone on either side of the topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:13:47 AM #62:	Ryo_the_Inferno posted... catboy0_0 posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... Just because you believe that, doesn't make it so. sex is just sex. you can learn to respect children as not sex objects and that they deserve to live their lives without your perversion pedophilia isn't just about sex. Alot of pedophiles explain how they can't love an adult and can only feel romantic love for children. It goes beyond lust. Oversimplifying it with pleasant seeming platitudes, like you are, doesn't help anyone on either side of the topic. but you can learn that your desires are wrong and that the kids deserve to live their lives despite what you wish to do with them --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378477] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote>Just because you believe that, doesn't make it so.</quote> sex is just sex. you can learn to respect children as not sex objects and that they deserve to live their lives without your perversion</quote> pedophilia isn't just about sex. Alot of pedophiles explain how they can't love an adult and can only feel romantic love for children. It goes beyond lust. Oversimplifying it with pleasant seeming platitudes, like you are, doesn't help anyone on either side of the topic.</quote> but you can learn that your desires are wrong and that the kids deserve to live their lives despite what you wish to do with them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StarSpangled 11/14/18 5:14:13 AM #63:	Nidhoggr posted... So as time goes on we are always told to accept people for who they are, you can't change how you were born, etc. Gay people are born gay so we accept them, right? Why do we vilify pedophiles? They had no choice in becoming one. You're mixing it up. We shouldn't be vilifying pedophiles. They had no choice. However, the act of pedophilia is immoral and reprehensible unlike homosexuality so that's why they can't be completely equated <cite>StarSpangled posted [p:912378490] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nidhoggr posted...</cite> <quote>So as time goes on we are always told to accept people for who they are, you can't change how you were born, etc. Gay people are born gay so we accept them, right? Why do we vilify pedophiles? They had no choice in becoming one.</quote> You're mixing it up. We shouldn't be vilifying pedophiles. They had no choice. However, the act of pedophilia is immoral and reprehensible unlike homosexuality so that's why they can't be completely equated</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:15:15 AM #64:	remember when you were a kid? did you have a creepy older dude fucking being creepy? then if you're a pedophile why would you do that to a child? it's not fair or just or right --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378510] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote>remember when you were a kid? did you have a creepy older dude fucking being creepy? then if you're a pedophile why would you do that to a child? it's not fair or just or right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The23rdMagus 11/14/18 5:16:08 AM #66:	FireJoeGirardi posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... FireJoeGirardi posted... catboy0_0 posted... 008Zulu posted... Some want to be helped, others don't. that's their choice and see them in prison Someone who wants to be helped isn't a pedophile, they're just someone who was confused and had thoughts of it and realized it was wrong. There's very few of those anyway. Chances are if you were ever at the point you wanted to get help, you are already a pedophile and those people don't want to get help. You're entirely wrong. It doesn't matter if they want help or not, if they have a sexual fascination with children, they're a pedophile, whether they want the fascination or not. There's been evidence that brain surgery can cure pedophilia. To be more accurate, some people that have had brain tumors removed have reported that their pedophilia has disappeared. Show me the evidence. Everyone makes this claim or something similar but when I ask for evidence they run away, or give an opinion piece with no statistical data or analysis, and then they run away. It's earlier in the thread. --- ~Drewnami: The Drew abides.~ Gonads are useful for their purpose, but they are no substitute for brains. -Paul Harvey <cite>The23rdMagus posted [p:912378533] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>FireJoeGirardi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FireJoeGirardi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>008Zulu posted...</cite> <quote>Some want to be helped, others don't.</quote> that's their choice and see them in prison</quote> Someone who wants to be helped isn't a pedophile, they're just someone who was confused and had thoughts of it and realized it was wrong. There's very few of those anyway. Chances are if you were ever at the point you wanted to get help, you are already a pedophile and those people don't want to get help.</quote> You're entirely wrong. It doesn't matter if they want help or not, if they have a sexual fascination with children, they're a pedophile, whether they want the fascination or not. There's been evidence that brain surgery can cure pedophilia. To be more accurate, some people that have had brain tumors removed have reported that their pedophilia has disappeared.</quote> Show me the evidence. Everyone makes this claim or something similar but when I ask for evidence they run away, or give an opinion piece with no statistical data or analysis, and then they run away.</quote> It's earlier in the thread.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toyota 11/14/18 5:16:27 AM #67:	I think pedophiles should be helped yeah, its called prison <cite>toyota posted [p:912378541] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><quote>I think pedophiles should be helped</quote> yeah, its called prison</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:16:29 AM #68:	I'm pleasantly surprised with you CE --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378543] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote>I'm pleasantly surprised with you CE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:16:46 AM #69:	toyota posted... I think pedophiles should be helped yeah, its called prison get out of this topic --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378550] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>toyota posted...</cite> <quote><quote>I think pedophiles should be helped</quote> yeah, its called prison</quote> get out of this topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 11/14/18 5:22:40 AM #70:	catboy0_0 posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... catboy0_0 posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... Just because you believe that, doesn't make it so. sex is just sex. you can learn to respect children as not sex objects and that they deserve to live their lives without your perversion pedophilia isn't just about sex. Alot of pedophiles explain how they can't love an adult and can only feel romantic love for children. It goes beyond lust. Oversimplifying it with pleasant seeming platitudes, like you are, doesn't help anyone on either side of the topic. but you can learn that your desires are wrong and that the kids deserve to live their lives despite what you wish to do with them 99% of living life is following your desires. It would take someone with the selflessness of a saint to never act on something like that. They would have to fully accept that they can never have a romantic relationship that they find fulfilling, for the rest of their life. --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:912378658] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote>Just because you believe that, doesn't make it so.</quote> sex is just sex. you can learn to respect children as not sex objects and that they deserve to live their lives without your perversion</quote> pedophilia isn't just about sex. Alot of pedophiles explain how they can't love an adult and can only feel romantic love for children. It goes beyond lust. Oversimplifying it with pleasant seeming platitudes, like you are, doesn't help anyone on either side of the topic.</quote> but you can learn that your desires are wrong and that the kids deserve to live their lives despite what you wish to do with them</quote> 99% of living life is following your desires. It would take someone with the selflessness of a saint to never act on something like that. They would have to fully accept that they can never have a romantic relationship that they find fulfilling, for the rest of their life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:23:30 AM #71:	Ryo_the_Inferno posted... 99% of living life is following your desires. It would take someone with the selflessness of a saint to never act on something like that. They would have to fully accept that they can never have a romantic relationship that they find fulfilling, for the rest of their life. you can learn higher functional morals besides your base desires --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378677] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote>99% of living life is following your desires. It would take someone with the selflessness of a saint to never act on something like that. They would have to fully accept that they can never have a romantic relationship that they find fulfilling, for the rest of their life.</quote> you can learn higher functional morals besides your base desires</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 11/14/18 5:24:19 AM #72:	@FireJoeGirardi posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... FireJoeGirardi posted... catboy0_0 posted... 008Zulu posted... Some want to be helped, others don't. that's their choice and see them in prison Someone who wants to be helped isn't a pedophile, they're just someone who was confused and had thoughts of it and realized it was wrong. There's very few of those anyway. Chances are if you were ever at the point you wanted to get help, you are already a pedophile and those people don't want to get help. You're entirely wrong. It doesn't matter if they want help or not, if they have a sexual fascination with children, they're a pedophile, whether they want the fascination or not. There's been evidence that brain surgery can cure pedophilia. To be more accurate, some people that have had brain tumors removed have reported that their pedophilia has disappeared. Show me the evidence. Everyone makes this claim or something similar but when I ask for evidence they run away, or give an opinion piece with no statistical data or analysis, and then they run away. All you had to do was scroll down, like, 3 replies, and you would have had what you wanted. https://nervoustalk.wordpress.com/2014/07/10/cancer-that-causes-pedophilia/ http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2009/11/23/brain-damage-pedophilia-and-the-law/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2943-brain-tumour-causes-uncontrollable-paedophilia/ https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/783830 And many more: https://duckduckgo.com/html?q=removal%20of%20tumor%20cures%20pedophilia --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:912378693] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>@FireJoeGirardi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FireJoeGirardi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>008Zulu posted...</cite> <quote>Some want to be helped, others don't.</quote> that's their choice and see them in prison</quote> Someone who wants to be helped isn't a pedophile, they're just someone who was confused and had thoughts of it and realized it was wrong. There's very few of those anyway. Chances are if you were ever at the point you wanted to get help, you are already a pedophile and those people don't want to get help.</quote> You're entirely wrong. It doesn't matter if they want help or not, if they have a sexual fascination with children, they're a pedophile, whether they want the fascination or not. There's been evidence that brain surgery can cure pedophilia. To be more accurate, some people that have had brain tumors removed have reported that their pedophilia has disappeared.</quote> Show me the evidence. Everyone makes this claim or something similar but when I ask for evidence they run away, or give an opinion piece with no statistical data or analysis, and then they run away.</quote> All you had to do was scroll down, like, 3 replies, and you would have had what you wanted. https://nervoustalk.wordpress.com/2014/07/10/cancer-that-causes-pedophilia/ http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2009/11/23/brain-damage-pedophilia-and-the-law/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2943-brain-tumour-causes-uncontrollable-paedophilia/ https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/783830 And many more: https://duckduckgo.com/html?q=removal%20of%20tumor%20cures%20pedophilia</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:24:41 AM #73:	did no one fall in love with morality? --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378700] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote>did no one fall in love with morality?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 11/14/18 5:24:47 AM #74:	catboy0_0 posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... 99% of living life is following your desires. It would take someone with the selflessness of a saint to never act on something like that. They would have to fully accept that they can never have a romantic relationship that they find fulfilling, for the rest of their life. you can learn higher functional morals besides your base desires Yeah, and a homeless person CAN win the lottery. --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:912378705] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote>99% of living life is following your desires. It would take someone with the selflessness of a saint to never act on something like that. They would have to fully accept that they can never have a romantic relationship that they find fulfilling, for the rest of their life.</quote> you can learn higher functional morals besides your base desires</quote> Yeah, and a homeless person CAN win the lottery.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 11/14/18 5:25:39 AM #75:	catboy0_0 posted... did no one fall in love with morality? Morality is subjective. If you think it's 'right' to have sex with children, then there's nothing 'morally' wrong with it. --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:912378719] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>did no one fall in love with morality?</quote> Morality is subjective. If you think it's 'right' to have sex with children, then there's nothing 'morally' wrong with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:26:03 AM #76:	Ryo_the_Inferno posted... catboy0_0 posted... did no one fall in love with morality? Morality is subjective. If you think it's 'right' to have sex with children, then there's nothing 'morally' wrong with it. but you can be taught WHY it is objectively wrong --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378731] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>did no one fall in love with morality?</quote> Morality is subjective. If you think it's 'right' to have sex with children, then there's nothing 'morally' wrong with it.</quote> but you can be taught WHY it is objectively wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nidhoggr 11/14/18 5:26:38 AM #77:	catboy0_0 posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... catboy0_0 posted... did no one fall in love with morality? Morality is subjective. If you think it's 'right' to have sex with children, then there's nothing 'morally' wrong with it. but you can be taught WHY it is objectively wrong "Wrong" and "Right" is subjective too. <cite>Nidhoggr posted [p:912378742] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>did no one fall in love with morality?</quote> Morality is subjective. If you think it's 'right' to have sex with children, then there's nothing 'morally' wrong with it.</quote> but you can be taught WHY it is objectively wrong</quote> "Wrong" and "Right" is subjective too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:27:38 AM #78:	Nidhoggr posted... catboy0_0 posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... catboy0_0 posted... did no one fall in love with morality? Morality is subjective. If you think it's 'right' to have sex with children, then there's nothing 'morally' wrong with it. but you can be taught WHY it is objectively wrong "Wrong" and "Right" is subjective too. so? people can convince and make a case to others that will change them. people are not always static --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378759] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nidhoggr posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>did no one fall in love with morality?</quote> Morality is subjective. If you think it's 'right' to have sex with children, then there's nothing 'morally' wrong with it.</quote> but you can be taught WHY it is objectively wrong</quote> "Wrong" and "Right" is subjective too.</quote> so? people can convince and make a case to others that will change them. people are not always static</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:28:58 AM #79:	this stubborness of "I'm RIGHT I won't change!" is an american epidemic of stupidity --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378786] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote>this stubborness of "I'm RIGHT I won't change!" is an american epidemic of stupidity</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:29:50 AM #80:	it's why Trump won --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378801] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote>it's why Trump won</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 11/14/18 5:30:23 AM #81:	catboy0_0 posted... Nidhoggr posted... catboy0_0 posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... catboy0_0 posted... did no one fall in love with morality? Morality is subjective. If you think it's 'right' to have sex with children, then there's nothing 'morally' wrong with it. but you can be taught WHY it is objectively wrong "Wrong" and "Right" is subjective too. so? people can convince and make a case to others that will change them. people are not always static So, your idea, is to force your morality on them, regardless of what they want? How is that much different than just doing brain surgery? It might not be as physically invasive as surgery, but it's much more difficult, time consuming, and downright insidious than surgery. --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:912378807] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nidhoggr posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>did no one fall in love with morality?</quote> Morality is subjective. If you think it's 'right' to have sex with children, then there's nothing 'morally' wrong with it.</quote> but you can be taught WHY it is objectively wrong</quote> "Wrong" and "Right" is subjective too.</quote> so? people can convince and make a case to others that will change them. people are not always static</quote> So, your idea, is to force your morality on them, regardless of what they want? How is that much different than just doing brain surgery? It might not be as physically invasive as surgery, but it's much more difficult, time consuming, and downright insidious than surgery.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:31:22 AM #82:	Ryo_the_Inferno posted... So, your idea, is to force your morality on them, regardless of what they want? How is that much different than just doing brain surgery? It might not be as physically invasive as surgery, but it's much more difficult, time consuming, and downright insidious than surgery. are you serious? it's not forcing a morality on them. it's showing them WHY what they are doing is hurtful and wrong to others --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378816] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote>So, your idea, is to force your morality on them, regardless of what they want? How is that much different than just doing brain surgery? It might not be as physically invasive as surgery, but it's much more difficult, time consuming, and downright insidious than surgery.</quote> are you serious? it's not forcing a morality on them. it's showing them WHY what they are doing is hurtful and wrong to others</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 11/14/18 5:31:56 AM #83:	catboy0_0 posted... this stubborness of "I'm RIGHT I won't change!" is an american epidemic of stupidity It's ironic that you're the one saying this. --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:912378824] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>this stubborness of "I'm RIGHT I won't change!" is an american epidemic of stupidity</quote> It's ironic that you're the one saying this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:32:16 AM #84:	Ryo_the_Inferno posted... catboy0_0 posted... this stubborness of "I'm RIGHT I won't change!" is an american epidemic of stupidity It's ironic that you're the one saying this. is it? I've changed a lot over the years --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378830] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>this stubborness of "I'm RIGHT I won't change!" is an american epidemic of stupidity</quote> It's ironic that you're the one saying this.</quote> is it? I've changed a lot over the years</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:33:19 AM #85:	I've grown up quite a bit --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378847] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote>I've grown up quite a bit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aristoph 11/14/18 5:33:51 AM #86:	catboy0_0 posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... catboy0_0 posted... did no one fall in love with morality? Morality is subjective. If you think it's 'right' to have sex with children, then there's nothing 'morally' wrong with it. but you can be taught WHY it is objectively wrong You can be taught why it is objectively right too, if you try hard enough. Morality is a pointless concept in this conversation because it's purely subjective for each individual. It doesn't matter whether it's morally right or wrong. What matters is that the society we live in has decided, pretty unambiguously, that it's wrong and it's not something we do. Explaining the repercussions due to this societal decision would be far more effective than attempting to tell someone it's morally wrong when they don't agree with you. --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules <cite>Aristoph posted [p:912378854] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>did no one fall in love with morality?</quote> Morality is subjective. If you think it's 'right' to have sex with children, then there's nothing 'morally' wrong with it.</quote> but you can be taught WHY it is objectively wrong</quote> You can be taught why it is objectively right too, if you try hard enough. Morality is a pointless concept in this conversation because it's purely subjective for each individual. It doesn't matter whether it's morally right or wrong. What matters is that the society we live in has decided, pretty unambiguously, that it's wrong and it's not something we do. Explaining the repercussions due to this societal decision would be far more effective than attempting to tell someone it's morally wrong when they don't agree with you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:34:43 AM #88:	I don't agree with that philosophical nonsense. Everyone is a person that experiences life. Everyone should deserve to not be harmed --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378873] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote>I don't agree with that philosophical nonsense. Everyone is a person that experiences life. Everyone should deserve to not be harmed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:37:06 AM #89:	we put people in jail to prevent them from harming others --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378912] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote>we put people in jail to prevent them from harming others</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColdOne666 11/14/18 5:37:35 AM #90:	Catboy is a pretty terrible troll, stop feeding him. --- FFX is the best game of all time. The only good Nintendo franchises are Pokemon and Fire Emblem. Comics are for kids. https://imgur.com/LJ3WSyB Reylo Ship <cite>ColdOne666 posted [p:912378920] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote>Catboy is a pretty terrible troll, stop feeding him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ehhwhatever 11/14/18 5:37:36 AM #91:	Ok there is stuff out there on the internet that you can mistakenly get. honest. and it makes me wonder if the internet is a huge pedophile place. --- come undone" <cite>ehhwhatever posted [p:912378921] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote>Ok there is stuff out there on the internet that you can mistakenly get. honest. and it makes me wonder if the internet is a huge pedophile place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:38:26 AM #92:	ColdOne666 posted... Catboy is a pretty terrible troll, stop feeding him. no i'm not --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378938] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>ColdOne666 posted...</cite> <quote>Catboy is a pretty terrible troll, stop feeding him.</quote> no i'm not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aristoph 11/14/18 5:38:47 AM #93:	catboy0_0 posted... we put people in jail to prevent them from harming others This has little or nothing to do with morality and everything to do with what society has determined to be detrimental. --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules <cite>Aristoph posted [p:912378942] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>we put people in jail to prevent them from harming others</quote> This has little or nothing to do with morality and everything to do with what society has determined to be detrimental.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:39:29 AM #94:	Aristoph posted... catboy0_0 posted... we put people in jail to prevent them from harming others This has little or nothing to do with morality and everything to do with what society has determined to be detrimental. what's your point? my argument is pedophiles can be taught to not act on their urges --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912378952] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Aristoph posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>we put people in jail to prevent them from harming others</quote> This has little or nothing to do with morality and everything to do with what society has determined to be detrimental.</quote> what's your point? my argument is pedophiles can be taught to not act on their urges</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 11/14/18 5:43:09 AM #96:	catboy0_0 posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... catboy0_0 posted... this stubborness of "I'm RIGHT I won't change!" is an american epidemic of stupidity It's ironic that you're the one saying this. is it? I've changed a lot over the years It is. Your entire argument has been "We just sit them down and convince them that they're wrong and "I'm RIGHT"." But you're not right. There really is no objective right or wrong in the world. No matter what happens, no matter what anyone does, the world will continue on going. The concepts of "right" and "wrong" are just preferences of behavior. Things that are "right" make life better, or easier, for the people that believe those things are right. That's how religious wars start. Two groups have different beliefs and try to impose those beliefs on the other. Both sides are "right" because they believe they're right. There's no real right or wrong other than what you decide for yourself. There's a tribe in Africa where, upon reaching "manhood" (usually early teens, I believe) a male child ingests the semen of the elder tribesmen. Is that wrong? I think so. Is it right? They think so. Does it matter? Not particularly, the practice doesn't seem to harm anyone, it's just how life is. --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:912379004] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>this stubborness of "I'm RIGHT I won't change!" is an american epidemic of stupidity</quote> It's ironic that you're the one saying this.</quote> is it? I've changed a lot over the years</quote> It is. Your entire argument has been "We just sit them down and convince them that they're wrong and "I'm RIGHT"." But you're not right. There really is no objective right or wrong in the world. No matter what happens, no matter what anyone does, the world will continue on going. The concepts of "right" and "wrong" are just preferences of behavior. Things that are "right" make life better, or easier, for the people that believe those things are right. That's how religious wars start. Two groups have different beliefs and try to impose those beliefs on the other. Both sides are "right" because they believe they're right. There's no real right or wrong other than what you decide for yourself. There's a tribe in Africa where, upon reaching "manhood" (usually early teens, I believe) a male child ingests the semen of the elder tribesmen. Is that wrong? I think so. Is it right? They think so. Does it matter? Not particularly, the practice doesn't seem to harm anyone, it's just how life is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 11/14/18 5:44:31 AM #97:	catboy0_0 posted... we put people in jail to prevent them from harming others This is almost literally the argument people use when they argue FOR imprisoning pedophiles. --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:912379025] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>we put people in jail to prevent them from harming others</quote> This is almost literally the argument people use when they argue FOR imprisoning pedophiles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:44:36 AM #98:	Ryo_the_Inferno posted... There's no real right or wrong other than what you decide for yourself. then if they decide they will choose to hurt children, they go to prison --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912379026] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote>There's no real right or wrong other than what you decide for yourself. </quote> then if they decide they will choose to hurt children, they go to prison</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ehhwhatever 11/14/18 5:47:53 AM #99:	Truth exists, sorry pedos, they tried. --- come undone" <cite>ehhwhatever posted [p:912379073] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote>Truth exists, sorry pedos, they tried.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 11/14/18 5:48:00 AM #100:	catboy0_0 posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... There's no real right or wrong other than what you decide for yourself. then if they decide they will choose to hurt children, they go to prison Obviously. The problem comes when pedophiles don't think what they're doing hurts their victims. Their logic is that they love kids, so they would never do something to hurt them, and if they would never do something to hurt them but would have sex with them, sex doesn't hurt them, because they would never hurt a kid. --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:912379076] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote>There's no real right or wrong other than what you decide for yourself. </quote> then if they decide they will choose to hurt children, they go to prison</quote> Obviously. The problem comes when pedophiles don't think what they're doing hurts their victims. Their logic is that they love kids, so they would never do something to hurt them, and if they would never do something to hurt them but would have sex with them, sex doesn't hurt them, because they would never hurt a kid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:48:08 AM #101:	but I believe there are those who will listen but are afraid of the stigma --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912379080] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote>but I believe there are those who will listen but are afraid of the stigma</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/14/18 5:49:55 AM #102:	do you know how much courage I had to have to make this topic? --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912379110] in I think pe... [t:77200756]...</cite> <quote>do you know how much courage I had to have to make this topic?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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