Current Events > Ashe from Overwatch is another skinny white woman (and why that's a problem)

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refmon 11/05/18 9:43:58 PM #1:	https://kotaku.com/blizzard-explains-why-overwatch-still-doesnt-have-a-bla-1830241379 --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:911885886] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>https://kotaku.com/blizzard-explains-why-overwatch-still-doesnt-have-a-bla-1830241379</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irregardless 11/05/18 9:44:53 PM #2:	She's not Bob from the cinematic is the real problem --- no <cite>Irregardless posted [p:911885946] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>She's not Bob from the cinematic is the real problem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 11/05/18 9:45:35 PM #3:	So dumb --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:911885988] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>So dumb</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hotcegaI 11/05/18 9:45:44 PM #4:	kotaku alsk known as reasons why you should be offended that don't make sense but you pretend they do <cite>hotcegaI posted [p:911885995] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>kotaku alsk known as reasons why you should be offended that don't make sense but you pretend they do</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 11/05/18 9:47:21 PM #5:	The real problem is that she's both a better McCree in most ways, and a the millionth DPS they've added to the game --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1349-mario Now Playing: Magic the Gathering: Arena <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:911886082] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>The real problem is that she's both a better McCree in most ways, and a the millionth DPS they've added to the game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sylverlolol 11/05/18 9:50:45 PM #7:	lol --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:911886290] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prettyprincess 11/05/18 9:52:07 PM #8:	of all the games to draw this issue with --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? <cite>prettyprincess posted [p:911886366] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>of all the games to draw this issue with</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 11/05/18 9:53:40 PM #9:	They're complaining about a lack of diversity in Overwatch? A game with one of the most diverse casts of characters ever? --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:911886467] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>They're complaining about a lack of diversity in Overwatch? A game with one of the most diverse casts of characters ever?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
clearaflagrantj 11/05/18 9:54:59 PM #10:	I'm going to make a video game with exclusively black female characters, the most diverse game ever made <cite>clearaflagrantj posted [p:911886560] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>I'm going to make a video game with exclusively black female characters, the most diverse game ever made</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 11/05/18 9:55:39 PM #11:	Overwatch is racist as shit. They added a hamster before even considering adding a black woman. Boycott when? --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:911886605] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>Overwatch is racist as shit. They added a hamster before even considering adding a black woman. Boycott when?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irregardless 11/05/18 9:55:57 PM #12:	Esrac posted... They're complaining about a lack of diversity in Overwatch? A game with one of the most diverse casts of characters ever? Unless Ashe is a gay disabled black transwoman she'll never be diverse enough for Kotaku --- no <cite>Irregardless posted [p:911886618] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>They're complaining about a lack of diversity in Overwatch? A game with one of the most diverse casts of characters ever?</quote> Unless Ashe is a gay disabled black transwoman she'll never be diverse enough for Kotaku</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 11/05/18 9:56:30 PM #13:	DarthAragorn posted... So dumb --- Cubs, Rockies, Grizzlies, Patriots. <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:911886654] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>So dumb</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Flockaveli 11/05/18 9:57:49 PM #15:	Widowmaker is black. --- Chicago, greatest city in the world! <cite>Flockaveli posted [p:911886718] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>Widowmaker is black.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sir Will 11/05/18 10:01:03 PM #17:	Alpha218 posted... The real problem is that she's both a better McCree in most ways, and a the millionth DPS they've added to the game 2 tanks 3 healers 3 DPS Added since launch. Obviously we started skewed. Healers being particularly low. But DPS will always be most popular among the general population. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:911886904] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alpha218 posted...</cite> <quote>The real problem is that she's both a better McCree in most ways, and a the millionth DPS they've added to the game</quote> 2 tanks 3 healers 3 DPS Added since launch. Obviously we started skewed. Healers being particularly low. But DPS will always be most popular among the general population.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cobra1010 11/05/18 10:01:26 PM #18:	Esrac posted... They're complaining about a lack of diversity in Overwatch? A game with one of the most diverse casts of characters ever? Its kotaku. They keep making these bait articles for clicks. Remember when they sided with the woman Dev that disrecpected the fanbase, got sacked then played the gender card. Thats why you should Never ever ever click on a kotaku link. Because it generates them money. Dont support them. --- GG Riot - https://imgur.com/PinGPhR https://imgur.com/Hs8Y1vQ <cite>Cobra1010 posted [p:911886928] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>They're complaining about a lack of diversity in Overwatch? A game with one of the most diverse casts of characters ever?</quote> Its kotaku. They keep making these bait articles for clicks. Remember when they sided with the woman Dev that disrecpected the fanbase, got sacked then played the gender card. Thats why you should Never ever ever click on a kotaku link. Because it generates them money. Dont support them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 11/05/18 10:03:02 PM #19:	Sir Will posted... Alpha218 posted... The real problem is that she's both a better McCree in most ways, and a the millionth DPS they've added to the game 2 tanks 3 healers 3 DPS Added since launch. Obviously we started skewed. Healers being particularly low. But DPS will always be most popular among the general population. At the same time you have to consider that some of the healers and tanks are off-roles --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1349-mario Now Playing: Magic the Gathering: Arena <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:911887012] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alpha218 posted...</cite> <quote>The real problem is that she's both a better McCree in most ways, and a the millionth DPS they've added to the game</quote> 2 tanks 3 healers 3 DPS Added since launch. Obviously we started skewed. Healers being particularly low. But DPS will always be most popular among the general population.</quote> At the same time you have to consider that some of the healers and tanks are off-roles</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RainblowDash 11/05/18 10:03:38 PM #20:	Too fucking bad --- Ryzen 7 1700X - Sapphire RX Vega 64 - ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Samsung 960 EVO 500gb - G.Skill TridentZ RGB 16gb - Silverstone SX700 700W <cite>RainblowDash posted [p:911887059] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>Too fucking bad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 11/05/18 10:04:10 PM #21:	get this "and why that's a problem/here's why you should care" garbage outta here --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:911887093] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>get this "and why that's a problem/here's why you should care" garbage outta here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Link43130 11/05/18 10:04:38 PM #22:	thats funny, the lady at work who's very much what you would expect from a kotaku reader was happy that ashe was a "straight white wealthy ciswoman who was conventionally attractive" because she was a villain and she didn't like that all of the previous villains added to the game were people of color. "thats not to say people of color can't be villains, but look at the real world" was a followup when I started talking about other fictional villains --- Steam/XBL/PSN: Link43130 <cite>Link43130 posted [p:911887116] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>thats funny, the lady at work who's very much what you would expect from a kotaku reader was happy that ashe was a "straight white wealthy ciswoman who was conventionally attractive" because she was a villain and she didn't like that all of the previous villains added to the game were people of color. "thats not to say people of color can't be villains, but look at the real world" was a followup when I started talking about other fictional villains</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yomi 11/05/18 10:05:30 PM #23:	The only problem I have with Ashe is that she has red eyes instead of green >_> --- Chez moi, il fait beau. <cite>Yomi posted [p:911887175] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>The only problem I have with Ashe is that she has red eyes instead of green >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 11/05/18 10:08:04 PM #24:	Link43130 posted... thats funny, the lady at work who's very much what you would expect from a kotaku reader was happy that ashe was a "straight white wealthy ciswoman who was conventionally attractive" because she was a villain and she didn't like that all of the previous villains added to the game were people of color. "thats not to say people of color can't be villains, but look at the real world" was a followup when I started talking about other fictional villains ...Moira? --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:911887344] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote><cite>Link43130 posted...</cite> <quote>thats funny, the lady at work who's very much what you would expect from a kotaku reader was happy that ashe was a "straight white wealthy ciswoman who was conventionally attractive" because she was a villain and she didn't like that all of the previous villains added to the game were people of color. "thats not to say people of color can't be villains, but look at the real world" was a followup when I started talking about other fictional villains</quote> ...Moira?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Doge 11/05/18 10:09:11 PM #25:	Flockaveli posted... Widowmaker is black. She's not she actually white she has a pre being turned purple skin Also @SailorGoon --- Wow such signature join Dogefaqs today http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1341-dogefaqs <cite>The_Doge posted [p:911887405] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote><cite>Flockaveli posted...</cite> <quote>Widowmaker is black.</quote> She's not she actually white she has a pre being turned purple skin Also @SailorGoon</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Krave_ 11/05/18 10:10:35 PM #26:	"Waah waah waah waah we don't even play the game waaaaaaah" This is all I'm getting from this. --- Am I seducing or being seduced? <cite>_Krave_ posted [p:911887486] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>"Waah waah waah waah we don't even play the game waaaaaaah" This is all I'm getting from this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Link43130 11/05/18 10:10:58 PM #27:	Sir Will posted... ...Moira? she said the irish don't count as white based on old racist art from the 1800s early 1900s --- Steam/XBL/PSN: Link43130 <cite>Link43130 posted [p:911887504] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote>...Moira? </quote> she said the irish don't count as white based on old racist art from the 1800s early 1900s</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
545x39 11/05/18 10:12:10 PM #28:	I bet that guy Is drowning in feminist pussy. --- Freya weeps upon her golden throne. https://i.imgtc.com/SvoKCYr.jpg <cite>545x39 posted [p:911887585] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>I bet that guy Is drowning in feminist pussy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 11/05/18 10:19:15 PM #29:	Both Ana and Pharah are Egyptian... --- So I'm (not real) and I won't call you _//\|-\|\\_ And I want to talk about mature themes \|\|\|daily\|\|\| -> http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 \//\|'\|\\/ <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:911888039] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>Both Ana and Pharah are Egyptian...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 11/05/18 10:20:08 PM #30:	Pogo_Marimo posted... Both Ana and Pharah are Egyptian... someone in the comments was like "do ana and pharah not count?" the answer is no, they don't lol. --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:911888091] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pogo_Marimo posted...</cite> <quote>Both Ana and Pharah are Egyptian...</quote> someone in the comments was like "do ana and pharah not count?" the answer is no, they don't lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flockaveli 11/05/18 10:20:12 PM #31:	The_Doge posted... Flockaveli posted... Widowmaker is black. She's not she actually white she has a pre being turned purple skin Also @SailorGoon Wowe! --- Chicago, greatest city in the world! <cite>Flockaveli posted [p:911888096] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Doge posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Flockaveli posted...</cite> <quote>Widowmaker is black.</quote> She's not she actually white she has a pre being turned purple skin Also @SailorGoon</quote> Wowe!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VectorChaos 11/05/18 10:22:30 PM #32:	--- "Donald Trump has the most presidential penis of all time" - DifferentialEquation <cite>VectorChaos posted [p:911888233] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagTartarus 11/05/18 10:23:49 PM #33:	The black Ashe concept art and fan art is pretty interesting though. I think the current Ashe has a really boring color palette. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMvoLOMki0w https://twitter.com/thermitegf/status/1054050102296236032 <cite>HashtagTartarus posted [p:911888297] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>The black Ashe concept art and fan art is pretty interesting though. I think the current Ashe has a really boring color palette.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alphamon 11/05/18 10:24:58 PM #34:	nothing is ever good enough <cite>Alphamon posted [p:911888369] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>nothing is ever good enough</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thunder_Armor 11/05/18 10:25:24 PM #35:	Gaming journalism at its finest! They'll add a black female hero eventually. There's one in the lore that we don't know much about because they're saving it for a reveal. It also doesn't fucking matter what the race and gender of the heroes are. Kotaku can crawl back under its rock. --- I should go. <cite>Thunder_Armor posted [p:911888389] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>Gaming journalism at its finest! They'll add a black female hero eventually. There's one in the lore that we don't know much about because they're saving it for a reveal. It also doesn't fucking matter what the race and gender of the heroes are. Kotaku can crawl back under its rock.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 11/05/18 10:29:35 PM #36:	Also, Orisa's creator is a black girl from Africa --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1349-mario Now Playing: Magic the Gathering: Arena <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:911888634] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>Also, Orisa's creator is a black girl from Africa</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 11/05/18 10:31:35 PM #37:	I mean, if they had a black female hero (which I thought they did), they'd just complain about the lack of a heavyset female hero or a transgender female hero. There's always a shifting target for why something isn't progressive enough. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:911888752] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>I mean, if they had a black female hero (which I thought they did), they'd just complain about the lack of a heavyset female hero or a transgender female hero. There's always a shifting target for why something isn't progressive enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Shadow 11/05/18 10:35:34 PM #38:	Isn't Sombra black --- GT My Lord Shadow :3DS FC 0791 2649 3488 Member of the PC Master race <cite>Lord_Shadow posted [p:911888963] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>Isn't Sombra black</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kuwab0 11/05/18 10:39:28 PM #39:	Do some people still think Mccree isn't White --- https://imgur.com/QfpP05s https://imgur.com/vdnZ1o6 https://imgur.com/zTgf822 <cite>kuwab0 posted [p:911889201] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>Do some people still think Mccree isn't White</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flockaveli 11/05/18 10:39:40 PM #40:	Lord_Shadow posted... Isn't Sombra black Shes Latina. --- Chicago, greatest city in the world! <cite>Flockaveli posted [p:911889211] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lord_Shadow posted...</cite> <quote>Isn't Sombra black</quote> Shes Latina.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Shadow 11/05/18 10:40:40 PM #41:	Flockaveli posted... Lord_Shadow posted... Isn't Sombra black Shes Latina. Black people can be Latina right? --- GT My Lord Shadow :3DS FC 0791 2649 3488 Member of the PC Master race <cite>Lord_Shadow posted [p:911889281] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote><cite>Flockaveli posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lord_Shadow posted...</cite> <quote>Isn't Sombra black</quote> Shes Latina.</quote> Black people can be Latina right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpreadManning 11/05/18 10:41:33 PM #42:	extremists always moving the diversity goal posts <cite>SpreadManning posted [p:911889338] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>extremists always moving the diversity goal posts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 11/05/18 10:42:15 PM #43:	>kotaku --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:911889387] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>>kotaku</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 11/05/18 10:42:54 PM #44:	lmao I knew Kotaku was gonna say something --- https://imgur.com/vDci4hD <cite>Ivynn posted [p:911889430] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>lmao I knew Kotaku was gonna say something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 11/05/18 10:44:13 PM #45:	Maybe they could have made the new hero a Native American woman? Have they done that already? Sorry, I don't play Overwatch, but the controversy is interesting. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:911889516] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>Maybe they could have made the new hero a Native American woman? Have they done that already? Sorry, I don't play Overwatch, but the controversy is interesting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flockaveli 11/05/18 10:46:18 PM #46:	Lord_Shadow posted... Flockaveli posted... Lord_Shadow posted... Isn't Sombra black Shes Latina. Black people can be Latina right? Youre right. You got me there. Hmmm. My mind was always set on her being Latina/Hispanic because Sombra is Spanish for shadow. --- Chicago, greatest city in the world! <cite>Flockaveli posted [p:911889636] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lord_Shadow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Flockaveli posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lord_Shadow posted...</cite> <quote>Isn't Sombra black</quote> Shes Latina.</quote> Black people can be Latina right?</quote> Youre right. You got me there. Hmmm. My mind was always set on her being Latina/Hispanic because Sombra is Spanish for shadow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 11/05/18 10:48:37 PM #47:	Flockaveli posted... Lord_Shadow posted... Flockaveli posted... Lord_Shadow posted... Isn't Sombra black Shes Latina. Black people can be Latina right? Youre right. You got me there. Hmmm. My mind was always set on her being Latina/Hispanic because Sombra is Spanish for shadow. I'm pretty sure she's soldier 76's daughter. Raised in Mexico without him knowing she was even alive --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:911889750] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote><cite>Flockaveli posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lord_Shadow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Flockaveli posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lord_Shadow posted...</cite> <quote>Isn't Sombra black</quote> Shes Latina.</quote> Black people can be Latina right?</quote> Youre right. You got me there. Hmmm. My mind was always set on her being Latina/Hispanic because Sombra is Spanish for shadow.</quote> I'm pretty sure she's soldier 76's daughter. Raised in Mexico without him knowing she was even alive</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 11/05/18 10:49:14 PM #48:	Ashe is fine af --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:911889776] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote>Ashe is fine af</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 11/05/18 10:49:58 PM #49:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Maybe they could have made the new hero a Native American woman? Have they done that already? Sorry, I don't play Overwatch, but the controversy is interesting. There is no controversy --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1349-mario Now Playing: Magic the Gathering: Arena <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:911889809] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe they could have made the new hero a Native American woman? Have they done that already? Sorry, I don't play Overwatch, but the controversy is interesting.</quote> There is no controversy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 11/05/18 10:50:30 PM #50:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Maybe they could have made the new hero a Native American woman? Have they done that already? Sorry, I don't play Overwatch, but the controversy is interesting. There's no native American character (yet) --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:911889850] in Ashe from ... [t:77174697]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe they could have made the new hero a Native American woman? Have they done that already? Sorry, I don't play Overwatch, but the controversy is interesting.</quote> There's no native American character (yet)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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