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Nomadic View 10/25/18 2:24:55 PM #1:	Can America educate, medicate, and accomodate everyone in the world that wants to come here? - Results (23 votes) Yes 34.78% (8 votes) 8 No 65.22% (15 votes) 15 x --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:911148263] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote> Can America educate, medicate, and accomodate everyone in the world that wants to come here? - Results (23 votes) Yes 34.78% (8 votes) 8 No 65.22% (15 votes) 15 x</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 10/25/18 2:34:38 PM #2:	We have enough trouble with the people already here. Really that is why as a liberal I am against all these migrants coming here. We need to fix things for the people already here first, our education system, our medical, social services. We need to fix things for the people already here first. --- Sarcasm is my basic function. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:911148826] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote>We have enough trouble with the people already here. Really that is why as a liberal I am against all these migrants coming here. We need to fix things for the people already here first, our education system, our medical, social services. We need to fix things for the people already here first.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/25/18 2:35:06 PM #3:	Nope --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:911148857] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote>Nope</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 10/25/18 2:35:48 PM #4:	Doesn't matter, we have a poem on the Statue of Liberty. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:911148904] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote>Doesn't matter, we have a poem on the Statue of Liberty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AdviceMan 10/25/18 2:36:42 PM #5:	No. But we're not doing it for the people who are already here, so let's not pretend like that's the issue. --- "I'm not racist but, BLM sure did make me racist." -Skasa I'm just here to offer you advice, take it or leave it. <cite>AdviceMan posted [p:911148960] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote>No. But we're not doing it for the people who are already here, so let's not pretend like that's the issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 10/25/18 2:37:54 PM #6:	open the borders let everyone in --- "life is overrated" - Seiichi Omori 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:911149050] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote>open the borders let everyone in</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 10/25/18 2:38:30 PM #7:	AdviceMan posted... No. But we're not doing it for the people who are already here, so let's not pretend like that's the issue. I'm less willing to say we couldn't if we wanted, but I wholeheartedly agree with the latter half of the statement. We aren't even doing good by our own citizens. --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:911149086] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote><cite>AdviceMan posted...</cite> <quote>No. But we're not doing it for the people who are already here, so let's not pretend like that's the issue.</quote> I'm less willing to say we couldn't if we wanted, but I wholeheartedly agree with the latter half of the statement. We aren't even doing good by our own citizens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 10/25/18 2:38:52 PM #8:	yes, pretty easily --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:911149107] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote>yes, pretty easily</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/25/18 2:39:54 PM #9:	AdviceMan posted... No. But we're not doing it for the people who are already here, so let's not pretend like that's the issue. This too. I hate hearing Republican fuckheads use talking points like this when they constantly fight against providing our own citizens with this stuff. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:911149163] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote><cite>AdviceMan posted...</cite> <quote>No. But we're not doing it for the people who are already here, so let's not pretend like that's the issue.</quote> This too. I hate hearing Republican fuckheads use talking points like this when they constantly fight against providing our own citizens with this stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 10/25/18 2:44:26 PM #10:	If a percentage of people contribute to this issue then I don't see why not --- Yes... I'm a Hanzo main <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:911149418] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote>If a percentage of people contribute to this issue then I don't see why not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperMedz3 10/25/18 2:50:03 PM #11:	"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country - President John F. Kennedy --- Zelda Twilight Princess is my favorite Zelda game <cite>SuperMedz3 posted [p:911149748] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote>"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country - President John F. Kennedy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/25/18 2:50:47 PM #12:	SuperMedz3 posted... "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country - President John F. Kennedy Cold War propaganda is the worst --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:911149795] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote>"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country - President John F. Kennedy</quote> Cold War propaganda is the worst</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 10/25/18 2:51:18 PM #13:	Medicate, accomodate, educate -- in that order. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:911149828] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote>Medicate, accomodate, educate -- in that order.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperMedz3 10/25/18 2:51:43 PM #14:	hockeybub89 posted... SuperMedz3 posted... "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country - President John F. Kennedy Cold War propaganda is the worst What do you want America do for you? --- Zelda Twilight Princess is my favorite Zelda game <cite>SuperMedz3 posted [p:911149855] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote>"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country - President John F. Kennedy</quote> Cold War propaganda is the worst</quote> What do you want America do for you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/25/18 2:54:47 PM #15:	SuperMedz3 posted... hockeybub89 posted... SuperMedz3 posted... "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country - President John F. Kennedy Cold War propaganda is the worst What do you want America do for you? I mean, the government is supposed to serve the people, not the other way around. I'd be fine with public healthcare coverage and education for all, with a minimum basic income. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:911150027] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote>"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country - President John F. Kennedy</quote> Cold War propaganda is the worst</quote> What do you want America do for you?</quote> I mean, the government is supposed to serve the people, not the other way around. I'd be fine with public healthcare coverage and education for all, with a minimum basic income.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 10/25/18 3:00:46 PM #16:	Balrog0 posted... yes, pretty easily Balrog0, for what its worth, I hold your opinions in high regard. You tend to have the opposite opinion on pretty much everything I do, but you articulate your position well. Can you explain your answer here? --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:911150412] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>yes, pretty easily</quote> Balrog0, for what its worth, I hold your opinions in high regard. You tend to have the opposite opinion on pretty much everything I do, but you articulate your position well. Can you explain your answer here?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asagi_mode_gone 10/25/18 3:02:59 PM #17:	If we actually taxed corporations their fair share and we actually made it so nobody could acquire such an excessive amount of wealth that they would have enough money to individually end world hunger several times over? Yes. Yes we could. <cite>asagi_mode_gone posted [p:911150530] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote>If we actually taxed corporations their fair share and we actually made it so nobody could acquire such an excessive amount of wealth that they would have enough money to individually end world hunger several times over? Yes. Yes we could.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 10/25/18 3:04:04 PM #18:	asagi_mode_gone posted... If we actually taxed corporations their fair share and we actually made it so nobody could acquire such an excessive amount of wealth that they would have enough money to individually end world hunger several times over? Yes. Yes we could. greed is humanity's downfall :(. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:911150582] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote><cite>asagi_mode_gone posted...</cite> <quote>If we actually taxed corporations their fair share and we actually made it so nobody could acquire such an excessive amount of wealth that they would have enough money to individually end world hunger several times over? Yes. Yes we could.</quote> greed is humanity's downfall :(.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperMedz3 10/25/18 3:07:50 PM #19:	hockeybub89 posted... SuperMedz3 posted... hockeybub89 posted... SuperMedz3 posted... "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country - President John F. Kennedy Cold War propaganda is the worst What do you want America do for you? I mean, the government is supposed to serve the people, not the other way around. I'd be fine with public healthcare coverage and education for all, with a minimum basic income. America already has public health care. It is law for children to go to school and everyone can further their education and go to college. Americans have a basic income with the freedom to spend their basic income however they like --- Zelda Twilight Princess is my favorite Zelda game <cite>SuperMedz3 posted [p:911150825] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote>"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country - President John F. Kennedy</quote> Cold War propaganda is the worst</quote> What do you want America do for you?</quote> I mean, the government is supposed to serve the people, not the other way around. I'd be fine with public healthcare coverage and education for all, with a minimum basic income.</quote> America already has public health care. It is law for children to go to school and everyone can further their education and go to college. Americans have a basic income with the freedom to spend their basic income however they like</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 10/25/18 3:12:17 PM #20:	Nomadic View posted... Balrog0 posted... yes, pretty easily Balrog0, for what its worth, I hold your opinions in high regard. You tend to have the opposite opinion on pretty much everything I do, but you articulate your position well. Can you explain your answer here? The issue here isn't structural, it's our political will to do so. I'm responding narrowly to your question. Could we do all those things? Yeah. It wouldn't be complicated. Right now we already don't allow immigrants to participate in most of our social safety net programs. The issue is that we give their children birthright citizenship, and we have native citizens that are in households headed by immigrants. One easy way to fix this? Stop giving people birthright citizenship. I wouldn't support that but it is one possible solution It's just like we could easily solve homelessness and a myriad of other problems that continue to plague our country and the world more generally. Our ability and knowledge to do so isn't lacking, its finding a solution that enough people can agree on that is the problem --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:911151075] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>yes, pretty easily</quote> Balrog0, for what its worth, I hold your opinions in high regard. You tend to have the opposite opinion on pretty much everything I do, but you articulate your position well. Can you explain your answer here?</quote> The issue here isn't structural, it's our political will to do so. I'm responding narrowly to your question. Could we do all those things? Yeah. It wouldn't be complicated. Right now we already don't allow immigrants to participate in most of our social safety net programs. The issue is that we give their children birthright citizenship, and we have native citizens that are in households headed by immigrants. One easy way to fix this? Stop giving people birthright citizenship. I wouldn't support that but it is one possible solution It's just like we could easily solve homelessness and a myriad of other problems that continue to plague our country and the world more generally. Our ability and knowledge to do so isn't lacking, its finding a solution that enough people can agree on that is the problem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 10/25/18 3:14:05 PM #21:	SuperMedz3 posted... hockeybub89 posted... SuperMedz3 posted... hockeybub89 posted... SuperMedz3 posted... "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country - President John F. Kennedy Cold War propaganda is the worst What do you want America do for you? I mean, the government is supposed to serve the people, not the other way around. I'd be fine with public healthcare coverage and education for all, with a minimum basic income. America already has public health care. It is law for children to go to school and everyone can further their education and go to college. Americans have a basic income with the freedom to spend their basic income however they like I'll argue that everyone doesn't have access to quality health care and education. All schools and hospitals aren't equal. --- The 17th King of the State of K <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:911151178] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote>"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country - President John F. Kennedy</quote> Cold War propaganda is the worst</quote> What do you want America do for you?</quote> I mean, the government is supposed to serve the people, not the other way around. I'd be fine with public healthcare coverage and education for all, with a minimum basic income.</quote> America already has public health care. It is law for children to go to school and everyone can further their education and go to college. Americans have a basic income with the freedom to spend their basic income however they like</quote> I'll argue that everyone doesn't have access to quality health care and education. All schools and hospitals aren't equal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asagi_mode_gone 10/25/18 3:14:09 PM #22:	kingdrake2 posted... asagi_mode_gone posted... If we actually taxed corporations their fair share and we actually made it so nobody could acquire such an excessive amount of wealth that they would have enough money to individually end world hunger several times over? Yes. Yes we could. greed is humanity's downfall :(. I mean. Capitalism is only a few centuries old but technology would have grown regardless so long as the Roman Catholic Church didn't intervene in progression with their taboos. Yet thanks to capitalism, we have leaders who are bribed by oil companies to ignore science and make us reliant on a fuel source that's destroying the planet. In the span of about a century and half we've caused nearly irreparable damage that'll result in our own extinction and still have people in charge making it into a political issue when the only politics at play are "is the short term profits of a small group worth the extinction of the human race" and it seems that the latter is a cost they've accepted. <cite>asagi_mode_gone posted [p:911151184] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote><cite>kingdrake2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>asagi_mode_gone posted...</cite> <quote>If we actually taxed corporations their fair share and we actually made it so nobody could acquire such an excessive amount of wealth that they would have enough money to individually end world hunger several times over? Yes. Yes we could.</quote> greed is humanity's downfall :(.</quote> I mean. Capitalism is only a few centuries old but technology would have grown regardless so long as the Roman Catholic Church didn't intervene in progression with their taboos. Yet thanks to capitalism, we have leaders who are bribed by oil companies to ignore science and make us reliant on a fuel source that's destroying the planet. In the span of about a century and half we've caused nearly irreparable damage that'll result in our own extinction and still have people in charge making it into a political issue when the only politics at play are "is the short term profits of a small group worth the extinction of the human race" and it seems that the latter is a cost they've accepted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 10/25/18 3:20:06 PM #23:	Balrog0 posted... Nomadic View posted... Balrog0 posted... yes, pretty easily Balrog0, for what its worth, I hold your opinions in high regard. You tend to have the opposite opinion on pretty much everything I do, but you articulate your position well. Can you explain your answer here? The issue here isn't structural, it's our political will to do so. I'm responding narrowly to your question. Could we do all those things? Yeah. It wouldn't be complicated. Right now we already don't allow immigrants to participate in most of our social safety net programs. The issue is that we give their children birthright citizenship, and we have native citizens that are in households headed by immigrants. One easy way to fix this? Stop giving people birthright citizenship. I wouldn't support that but it is one possible solution It's just like we could easily solve homelessness and a myriad of other problems that continue to plague our country and the world more generally. Our ability and knowledge to do so isn't lacking, its finding a solution that enough people can agree on that is the problem I do agree that our own fragmentation of ideology is a barrier to pushing solutions. However, I just dont see that there actually is a solution. Im certainly open to hearing ideas on how we could make such accommodations, but I am skeptical that one even exists. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:911151520] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>yes, pretty easily</quote> Balrog0, for what its worth, I hold your opinions in high regard. You tend to have the opposite opinion on pretty much everything I do, but you articulate your position well. Can you explain your answer here?</quote> The issue here isn't structural, it's our political will to do so. I'm responding narrowly to your question. Could we do all those things? Yeah. It wouldn't be complicated. Right now we already don't allow immigrants to participate in most of our social safety net programs. The issue is that we give their children birthright citizenship, and we have native citizens that are in households headed by immigrants. One easy way to fix this? Stop giving people birthright citizenship. I wouldn't support that but it is one possible solution It's just like we could easily solve homelessness and a myriad of other problems that continue to plague our country and the world more generally. Our ability and knowledge to do so isn't lacking, its finding a solution that enough people can agree on that is the problem</quote> I do agree that our own fragmentation of ideology is a barrier to pushing solutions. However, I just dont see that there actually is a solution. Im certainly open to hearing ideas on how we could make such accommodations, but I am skeptical that one even exists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 10/25/18 4:17:31 PM #24:	Nomadic View posted... I do agree that our own fragmentation of ideology is a barrier to pushing solutions. However, I just dont see that there actually is a solution. Im certainly open to hearing ideas on how we could make such accommodations, but I am skeptical that one even exists. I don't think there's much evidence to suggest immigrants are costly. Mostly, immigrants cost less than native born citizens. So for me this is kind of looking for a problem There are problems with our political and economic system, but the idea that immigrants are a special pressure on them is imo fallacious --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:911154829] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>I do agree that our own fragmentation of ideology is a barrier to pushing solutions. However, I just dont see that there actually is a solution. Im certainly open to hearing ideas on how we could make such accommodations, but I am skeptical that one even exists.</quote> I don't think there's much evidence to suggest immigrants are costly. Mostly, immigrants cost less than native born citizens. So for me this is kind of looking for a problem There are problems with our political and economic system, but the idea that immigrants are a special pressure on them is imo fallacious</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperMedz3 10/25/18 5:13:00 PM #25:	KStateKing17 posted... SuperMedz3 posted... hockeybub89 posted... SuperMedz3 posted... hockeybub89 posted... SuperMedz3 posted... "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country - President John F. Kennedy Cold War propaganda is the worst What do you want America do for you? I mean, the government is supposed to serve the people, not the other way around. I'd be fine with public healthcare coverage and education for all, with a minimum basic income. America already has public health care. It is law for children to go to school and everyone can further their education and go to college. Americans have a basic income with the freedom to spend their basic income however they like I'll argue that everyone doesn't have access to quality health care and education. All schools and hospitals aren't equal. If so please report to your congressman/congresswoman --- Zelda Twilight Princess is my favorite Zelda game <cite>SuperMedz3 posted [p:911158136] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote>"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country - President John F. Kennedy</quote> Cold War propaganda is the worst</quote> What do you want America do for you?</quote> I mean, the government is supposed to serve the people, not the other way around. I'd be fine with public healthcare coverage and education for all, with a minimum basic income.</quote> America already has public health care. It is law for children to go to school and everyone can further their education and go to college. Americans have a basic income with the freedom to spend their basic income however they like</quote> I'll argue that everyone doesn't have access to quality health care and education. All schools and hospitals aren't equal.</quote> If so please report to your congressman/congresswoman</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fuparulez 10/25/18 5:45:37 PM #26:	asagi_mode_gone posted... If we actually taxed corporations their fair share and we actually made it so nobody could acquire such an excessive amount of wealth that they would have enough money to individually end world hunger several times over? Yes. Yes we could. You know that somebody having a lot of wealth doesn't mean you have less, and somebody losing their wealth doesn't mean you have more, right? You know that corporations don't pay taxes, their consumers do, and raising corporate tax rates just raises the cost of living, right? It's frightening that people with such a laughable grasp of economics are allowed to vote. Your stance is effectively "Some people have more than me and I don't like that." --- It's the fat upper kitty area, and if you got one I wanna marry ya! <cite>Fuparulez posted [p:911159989] in Can Americ... [t:77131435]...</cite> <quote><cite>asagi_mode_gone posted...</cite> <quote>If we actually taxed corporations their fair share and we actually made it so nobody could acquire such an excessive amount of wealth that they would have enough money to individually end world hunger several times over? Yes. Yes we could.</quote> You know that somebody having a lot of wealth doesn't mean you have less, and somebody losing their wealth doesn't mean you have more, right? You know that corporations don't pay taxes, their consumers do, and raising corporate tax rates just raises the cost of living, right? It's frightening that people with such a laughable grasp of economics are allowed to vote. Your stance is effectively "Some people have more than me and I don't like that."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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