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MC_BatCommander
11/12/18 6:44:52 PM
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Yes, its damage goes up with tear damage.
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Axiom
11/12/18 7:06:39 PM
#253:


Ugh picked up that fucking dead cat on accident in the Mags challenge where every door was spiked. No point in even going on after that >_>

^ Thanks that's nice to know. I really couldn't tell since they didn't get bigger and all normal enemies died instantly anyway
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fire_bolt
11/12/18 7:18:04 PM
#254:


Axiom posted...
Ugh picked up that fucking dead cat on accident in the Mags challenge where every door was spiked. No point in even going on after that >_>

^ Thanks that's nice to know. I really couldn't tell since they didn't get bigger and all normal enemies died instantly anyway


Yeah, one of the few times 9 Lives is a bad choice. Generally it is a top tier item
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Axiom
11/12/18 11:41:20 PM
#255:


I just barely beat the bean challenge thanks to reusable tear burst recharging over time. Most of these challenges I'm only able to beat thanks to lucky drops

What are some ways to use 9 lives that make it good because it doesn't really seem great to me
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fire_bolt
11/12/18 11:54:21 PM
#256:


Axiom posted...
I just barely beat the bean challenge thanks to reusable tear burst recharging over time. Most of these challenges I'm only able to beat thanks to lucky drops

What are some ways to use 9 lives that make it good because it doesn't really seem great to me


The biggest use is to trade it for Devil Deals, even if it kills you. If you have less red hearts than a deal costs you will take the deal and be left with only spirit hearts. If you have no spirit hearts and trade away all your red hearts you just die... But with 9 lives you pop back up, deal intact, and keep rolling. Also extremely good with the Potato Peeler or Guppy's Paw. Or any combo of items that makes it easy to stack up spirit hearts, like Gimpy and/or Dark Bum. Basically it is less about survivability (if something killed you from full HP it will probably kill you when you respawn with 1 HP) and more about enabling you to make some extremely risky plays because you know you'll have several more chances to make it work out. Protip: If carrying 9 Lives and expecting that you might die soon (Like on purpose for a devil deal or something), leave any spirit hearts and HP items alone until AFTER you die. Then restock and continue on your way.

Aside from that, its one of the many Guppy items that can enable to extremely broken Guppy transformation. Typically becoming Guppy is more or less an instant win, depending on your item loadout.
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Axiom
11/12/18 11:59:14 PM
#257:


Ah yeah that would be good for devil deals. I did have it with Judas since he already had a single heart and had guppy's paw too which gave me a bunch of souls. That's the only time I really found a use for it though. All the others I've avoided it
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LordFarquad1312
11/13/18 1:10:49 AM
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Axiom posted...
What are some ways to use 9 lives that make it good because it doesn't really seem great to me

Aside from contributing to the Gupy transformation, it's a good way to get rid of heart containers, since the meta is to have as few as posible/none
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Axiom
11/13/18 6:41:53 PM
#260:


Fucking hell beat that Solar System challenge. That thing gave me more trouble than anything I've played so far in Isaac. Angel room saved my ass after getting the buddy that speeds up orbitals and spear of destiny
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loafy013
11/13/18 9:11:44 PM
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Solar System is one of the challenges that is a great training tool. Getting comfortable with orbitals will really help you out in the long run, especially if you start eden streaking. So much quicker than getting stuck with 19 tear rate and sub 3 damage.
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Axiom
11/14/18 5:03:19 PM
#262:


loafy013 posted...
Solar System is one of the challenges that is a great training tool. Getting comfortable with orbitals will really help you out in the long run, especially if you start eden streaking. So much quicker than getting stuck with 19 tear rate and sub 3 damage.

I'm used to staying as far away from enemies as possible so it was jarring having to get close. It turned usually simple enemies into the most dangerous. Fuck rooms filled with the brimstone bellies

I've also noticed a wall being destroyed after beating mom in certain challenges. What's up with that
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LordFarquad1312
11/14/18 5:23:33 PM
#263:


Axiom posted...
loafy013 posted...
Solar System is one of the challenges that is a great training tool. Getting comfortable with orbitals will really help you out in the long run, especially if you start eden streaking. So much quicker than getting stuck with 19 tear rate and sub 3 damage.

I'm used to staying as far away from enemies as possible so it was jarring having to get close. It turned usually simple enemies into the most dangerous. Fuck rooms filled with the brimstone bellies

I've also noticed a wall being destroyed after beating mom in certain challenges. What's up with that

Oh boy, I'd like to discover Isaac for the first time again.

It's boss rush. You get to it by killing Mom in less than 20 minutes. There's an unlock for clearing it with each characte the first time. Something similar happens if you kill Mom's Heart in less than 30 minutes ;)
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Axiom
11/14/18 5:45:27 PM
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Oh cool thanks. That makes sense. Instead of exploring for items I've been trying to get to the bosses as fast as possible with the challenges. I'll have to remember that for when I play the main game again
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BlazinBlue88
11/14/18 11:36:21 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Something similar happens if you kill Mom's Heart in less than 30 minutes ;)

I was not aware of this. Though I can barely make it to mom in 20.
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LordFarquad1312
11/14/18 11:58:37 PM
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BlazinBlue88 posted...
LordFarquad1312 posted...
Something similar happens if you kill Mom's Heart in less than 30 minutes ;)

I was not aware of this. Though I can barely make it to mom in 20.

Assuming you have Afterbirth instaled.
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loafy013
11/15/18 3:01:50 AM
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BlazinBlue88 posted...
LordFarquad1312 posted...
Something similar happens if you kill Mom's Heart in less than 30 minutes ;)

I was not aware of this. Though I can barely make it to mom in 20.

Just wait until you get the urge to finish all the in-game achievements. One of them is killing the lamb in the dark room in under 30 minutes.
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Bad_Mojo
11/15/18 3:08:23 AM
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loafy013 posted...
Just wait until you get the urge to finish all the in-game achievements. One of them is killing the lamb in the dark room in under 30 minutes.


I'm so close to having all of them done

The only ones I'm missing are just shit I need to find and pick up like Angry Fly or the really hard shit like "It's The Key" where you have to beat The Lamb without picking up Hearts, Coins or Bombs

388/403
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loafy013
11/15/18 4:43:49 AM
#270:


Bad_Mojo posted...
"It's The Key" where you have to beat The Lamb without picking up Hearts, Coins or Bombs

My advice is to play as the lost. You get the free holy mantle and don't have to worry about red hearts. Avoid secret rooms and the shop. Last thing you want is a greed fight that throws coins in front of the exit. You also get the free devil deals out of it. Hardest part is breaking the habit of grabbing coins, bombs and soul hearts when they show up
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BlazinBlue88
11/15/18 9:23:02 AM
#271:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
BlazinBlue88 posted...
LordFarquad1312 posted...
Something similar happens if you kill Mom's Heart in less than 30 minutes ;)

I was not aware of this. Though I can barely make it to mom in 20.

Assuming you have Afterbirth instaled.

I do.
Spoil it for me.
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LordFarquad1312
11/15/18 10:14:10 AM
#272:


BlazinBlue88 posted...
LordFarquad1312 posted...
BlazinBlue88 posted...
LordFarquad1312 posted...
Something similar happens if you kill Mom's Heart in less than 30 minutes ;)

I was not aware of this. Though I can barely make it to mom in 20.

Assuming you have Afterbirth instaled.

I do.
Spoil it for me.

You just have to kill Mom's Heart before the 30 minute mark.
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LordFarquad1312
11/15/18 10:14:25 AM
#273:


loafy013 posted...
BlazinBlue88 posted...
LordFarquad1312 posted...
Something similar happens if you kill Mom's Heart in less than 30 minutes ;)

I was not aware of this. Though I can barely make it to mom in 20.

Just wait until you get the urge to finish all the in-game achievements. One of them is killing the lamb in the dark room in under 30 minutes.

20 minutes actually.
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Axiom
11/15/18 8:24:48 PM
#274:


Damn high priestess fucks Mom's heart up. I'll have to remember that for the other challenges. Completed all the black text ones except two that are still locked. Moving onto what I assume are harder ones
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LordFarquad1312
11/15/18 11:04:06 PM
#275:


Axiom posted...
Damn high priestess fucks Mom's heart up. I'll have to remember that for the other challenges. Completed all the black text ones except two that are still locked. Moving onto what I assume are harder ones

I don't think the color of the text indicates difficulty, necessarily. The black ones are from Rebirth, the red ones from Aftebirth and the green ones from Afterbirth+
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Garioshi
11/16/18 6:45:26 AM
#276:


Bad_Mojo posted...
loafy013 posted...
Just wait until you get the urge to finish all the in-game achievements. One of them is killing the lamb in the dark room in under 30 minutes.


I'm so close to having all of them done

The only ones I'm missing are just shit I need to find and pick up like Angry Fly or the really hard shit like "It's The Key" where you have to beat The Lamb without picking up Hearts, Coins or Bombs

388/403

Currently at 280/203 over here.
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Axiom
11/16/18 5:20:28 PM
#277:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
Axiom posted...
Damn high priestess fucks Mom's heart up. I'll have to remember that for the other challenges. Completed all the black text ones except two that are still locked. Moving onto what I assume are harder ones

I don't think the color of the text indicates difficulty, necessarily. The black ones are from Rebirth, the red ones from Aftebirth and the green ones from Afterbirth+

I see. I figured it would be harder challenges given Ultra Hard being in the last few

Started Greed Mode with Azazel. This mode will take some getting used to. I've already damaged myself by hitting the button quite a few times when I didn't want to

Does the hole in the item shop skip the level. I figured that's what it does but I don't want to try it and find out
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Axiom
11/16/18 6:08:17 PM
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Ah thanks. Man wtf at the Ultra Greed fight. I was doing fine until I got there and he rocked my world. So many mini greeds on the screen that I couldn't even get to him
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kuwab0
11/18/18 1:02:19 AM
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Im trying to get the 5 daily wins in a row, would have been done today but of course its The Lost
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LordFarquad1312
11/18/18 11:23:53 AM
#282:


kuwab0 posted...
Im trying to get the 5 daily wins in a row, would have been done today but of course its The Lost

One of the worst achievements was playing 30 dailies in a row. At least it was changed to 30 dailies whenever.

Can't wait to see how Ed forces us to play his garbage dailies in the new expansion.
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Axiom
11/18/18 1:50:16 PM
#283:


I've tried off and on to beat greed as Azazel and it's such a crapshoot. I get damaged more by enemies appearing beside me than anything else. I started getting range up items to build his range but I've come to the conclusion it's best to hope for a lucky brimstone from the devil room and go for damage

The shears that makes your body seek and damage enemies were really great for this mode since they lasted through all the waves

^ Do you have to beat them thirty times in a row or just play them
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Axiom
11/18/18 8:03:58 PM
#284:


Son of a bitch I was so close to beating Greed with Azazel after getting the Book of Belial. His short range brimstone fucking kills me in that fight
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Axiom
11/19/18 2:54:35 PM
#285:


Eat shit Greed. Didn't finish with a single coin to donate to greed machine but at least I unlocked Lilith. I tried the Speed challenge after. Lol nope. Fuck that
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kuwab0
11/19/18 8:42:43 PM
#286:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
kuwab0 posted...
Im trying to get the 5 daily wins in a row, would have been done today but of course its The Lost

One of the worst achievements was playing 30 dailies in a row. At least it was changed to 30 dailies whenever.

Can't wait to see how Ed forces us to play his garbage dailies in the new expansion.

I just lost my winstreak today because the daily was Blue Baby, Cursed Eye, Bob's Brain
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Lord_Wombat
11/19/18 8:45:22 PM
#287:


Axiom posted...
I tried the Speed challenge after. Lol nope. Fuck that

Agreed.

I finished Ultra Hard a while back, but I can't get past floor 3 or 4 on speeeed... it's by far the hardest challenge imo :/
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Bad_Mojo
11/19/18 8:46:24 PM
#288:


Axiom posted...
Eat shit Greed. Didn't finish with a single coin to donate to greed machine but at least I unlocked Lilith. I tried the Speed challenge after. Lol nope. Fuck that


legit lol'ed
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Spidey5
11/19/18 8:53:37 PM
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gmanthebest
11/19/18 8:56:40 PM
#290:


Axiom posted...
Son of a bitch I was so close to beating Greed with Azazel after getting the Book of Belial. His short range brimstone fucking kills me in that fight

I got lucky and got Ludo super early and a lot of damage ups.
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Axiom
11/20/18 3:14:25 PM
#291:


Lord_Wombat posted...
Axiom posted...
I tried the Speed challenge after. Lol nope. Fuck that

Agreed.

I finished Ultra Hard a while back, but I can't get past floor 3 or 4 on speeeed... it's by far the hardest challenge imo :/

At first I thought it was just a time limit each floor. Then I discovered what it really was >_>

The pokemon challenge is chaotic. I had so many creatures out that I couldn't tell which projectiles were good or bad. Eventually beat it by getting the bible instead
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Axiom
11/21/18 3:16:38 PM
#292:


Fuck you Onan's Streak. Get to Isaac with 6 health doing 36 damage with the Scythe tears and I only got 2/3 of his health down
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Axiom
11/21/18 7:23:06 PM
#293:


God damn I never noticed how much Joycon sticks suck until trying Onan's challenge. Every run I've accidentally hurt myself by shooting a different way than I wanted to
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Axiom
11/22/18 4:24:06 PM
#294:


Beat Mega Bitch as Judas. Wasn't even trying to but I got both keys so I figured what the hell. The holy shot with double tear stream in front and mom's eye in back made it easy

I also read about the God's Head. Has anyone gotten that item. The requirements for unlocking it are ridiculous
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LordFarquad1312
11/22/18 4:25:08 PM
#295:


Axiom posted...
Beat Mega Bitch as Judas. Wasn't even trying to but I got both keys so I figured what the hell. The holy shot with double tear stream in front and mom's eye in back made it easy

I also read about the God's Head. Has anyone gotten that item. The requirements for unlocking it are ridiculous

Not really. The Lost isn't even the hardest character to play as.
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Axiom
11/22/18 4:28:27 PM
#296:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
Axiom posted...
Beat Mega Bitch as Judas. Wasn't even trying to but I got both keys so I figured what the hell. The holy shot with double tear stream in front and mom's eye in back made it easy

I also read about the God's Head. Has anyone gotten that item. The requirements for unlocking it are ridiculous

Not really. The Lost isn't even the hardest character to play as.

I really can't imagine not getting hit once during Greed let alone the harder greed mode
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LordFarquad1312
11/22/18 5:15:38 PM
#297:


Axiom posted...
LordFarquad1312 posted...
Axiom posted...
Beat Mega Bitch as Judas. Wasn't even trying to but I got both keys so I figured what the hell. The holy shot with double tear stream in front and mom's eye in back made it easy

I also read about the God's Head. Has anyone gotten that item. The requirements for unlocking it are ridiculous

Not really. The Lost isn't even the hardest character to play as.

I really can't imagine not getting hit once during Greed let alone the harder greed mode

There are ways to break Greed mode. Don't know if they got patched in tho.
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LordFarquad1312
11/22/18 8:05:06 PM
#298:


I'm not actually sure you need to beat Greed mode to unlock God head actually, since that wasn't a think in Rebirth.
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fire_bolt
11/22/18 10:29:16 PM
#299:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
I'm not actually sure you need to beat Greed mode to unlock God head actually, since that wasn't a think in Rebirth.


They actually made it harder to unlock in Afterbirth. You need to fill out The Lost's ENTIRE POST-IT NOTE on hard mode to unlock it now.
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LordFarquad1312
11/22/18 10:58:14 PM
#300:


fire_bolt posted...
LordFarquad1312 posted...
I'm not actually sure you need to beat Greed mode to unlock God head actually, since that wasn't a think in Rebirth.


They actually made it harder to unlock in Afterbirth. You need to fill out The Lost's ENTIRE POST-IT NOTE on hard mode to unlock it now.

Not exactly harder, given that it now starts with the item that was previously almost necessary for the Isaac gods to grant you in order for your run to have a chance.
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Bad_Mojo
11/22/18 11:02:00 PM
#301:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
Not exactly harder, given that it now starts with the item that was previously almost necessary for the Isaac gods to grant you in order for your run to have a chance.


It's been too long, but don't you have to unlock that in order to start with it with The Lost?
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