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DarkTransient 10/17/18 7:35:10 AM #153: |
Kineth posted...
And stop running away from the fact that you think women should be forced to carry a fetus/baby that was forced on them. That's plain fucked up. I don't deny that; I just object to using the rape as an emotional pull-string to justify a clearly despicable action, instead of treating it the same way it'd be treated with literally any other person. The only "justifiable exception" is when the alternative is that they both die, through no fault of their own (ie: NOT "I'll kill myself if I can't get one" or "she'll get it anyway and die from it being dodgy", but eg. "there's a medical complication that'll kill her" such as ectopic pregnancy). --- Proud to be part of the 1% of society that's smart enough to realise Australia is not real. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperMedz3 10/17/18 7:52:56 AM #154: |
King_Hellebuyck posted...
What is so hard to understand about her body, her choice? You talking about the mom? --- Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 10/17/18 7:58:49 AM #155: |
Kineth posted...
And stop running away from the fact that you think women should be forced to carry a fetus/baby that was forced on them. That's plain fucked up. This isn't about abortion itself. It's about a fucking justifiable exception to a draconic stance. He also wants the Death Penalty for women who get an abortion. Because you know "pro-life" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 10/17/18 8:01:29 AM #156: |
I feel like this is just a bait thread.
it's horrible that there are people like that for real, though. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sage JJ 10/17/18 8:05:03 AM #157: |
King_Hellebuyck posted...
What is so hard to understand about her body, her choice? Because once she decides to have sex and gets pregnant its not just her choice. It takes 2 people to create that baby and both parents should have a say in it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 10/17/18 8:06:31 AM #158: |
Tmaster148 posted...
Kineth posted...And stop running away from the fact that you think women should be forced to carry a fetus/baby that was forced on them. That's plain fucked up. This isn't about abortion itself. It's about a fucking justifiable exception to a draconic stance. So he's given them a death sentence at that point since he'd be forcing the rise of back alley abortions and the female mortality rate and he wants them to carry her rapist's DNA to term, which will very likely have stress phenotypes and genetic damage as a result of that in its kids DNA. Like... literally cancerous thoughts and oddly targeted at women. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 10/17/18 8:08:24 AM #159: |
Kineth posted...
Tmaster148 posted...Kineth posted...And stop running away from the fact that you think women should be forced to carry a fetus/baby that was forced on them. That's plain fucked up. This isn't about abortion itself. It's about a fucking justifiable exception to a draconic stance. Well the "pro-life" side is just a facade for their real cause. Being anti-women. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 10/17/18 8:11:48 AM #160: |
Dragonblade01 posted...
Do people have bodily autonomy? This --- It's what all true warriors strive for! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 10/17/18 8:18:13 AM #161: |
Tmaster148 posted...
Kineth posted...Tmaster148 posted...Kineth posted...And stop running away from the fact that you think women should be forced to carry a fetus/baby that was forced on them. That's plain fucked up. This isn't about abortion itself. It's about a fucking justifiable exception to a draconic stance. A lot of pro-life people are not anti-women. It's possible to disagree with abortion and not be a misogynist. There are even pro-life feminists. I may not agree with them but that doesn't mean they all hate women. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 10/17/18 8:19:52 AM #162: |
Southernfatman posted...
Bet if tc knocked up one of those Chinese hookers his wife apparently gets for him his stance would change. I am clearly missing something here. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 10/17/18 8:38:49 AM #163: |
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Southernfatman 10/17/18 8:40:24 AM #164: |
ssjevot posted...
I am clearly missing something here. Dude made a topic bragging about his wife getting him an escort while he was in China. Like all of us were supposed to be jealous or something. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 10/17/18 8:41:10 AM #165: |
MuayThai85 posted...
Ving_Rhames posted...What a stupid fucking topic lol Only the woman gets to decide if the fetus is living or not. Her body her choice. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 10/17/18 8:45:19 AM #166: |
RebelElite791 posted...
Fuck right off with this disingenuous bullshit topic. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SageHarpuiaHX 10/17/18 8:52:00 AM #167: |
Abortion is so inconsistent because everyone knows it's wrong but in order to seem progressive invent new terms to make it sound ok.
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bevan306 10/17/18 9:01:26 AM #168: |
SageHarpuiaHX posted...
Abortion is so inconsistent because everyone knows it's wrong but in order to seem progressive invent new terms to make it sound ok. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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halomonkey1_3_5 10/17/18 9:02:16 AM #169: |
Nuance and context has never been a strong point for pro lifers
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King_Hellebuyck 10/17/18 9:03:27 AM #170: |
halomonkey1_3_5 posted...
Nuance and context has never been a strong point for pro lifers Bodily autonomy is one of the simplest things to understand- they always come off as deliberately dense. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SageHarpuiaHX 10/17/18 9:03:31 AM #171: |
halomonkey1_3_5 posted...
Nuance and context has never been a strong point for pro lifers It being the mother's choice doesn't not make it murder ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prettyprincess 10/17/18 9:15:20 AM #172: |
DarkTransient posted...
Hm, when you put it that way, you're right. just want to circle back to this because it was so close to helping you recognize the point, aside from the idea that murder is indeed considered much more severe than physician assisted suicide, which would be the more apt comparitave scenario here --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 10/17/18 9:17:45 AM #173: |
It's called pro choice. Tricking a woman into taking an abortion pill takes away that choice.
Really why is this hard to understand? --- Sarcasm is my basic function. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 10/17/18 9:20:49 AM #174: |
SageHarpuiaHX posted...
halomonkey1_3_5 posted...Nuance and context has never been a strong point for pro lifers Now I see it as a potential life ether way so yes wanting the child does make a huge difference. That is just my opinion. --- Sarcasm is my basic function. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 10/17/18 9:21:26 AM #175: |
ssjevot posted...
Tmaster148 posted...Kineth posted...Tmaster148 posted...Kineth posted...And stop running away from the fact that you think women should be forced to carry a fetus/baby that was forced on them. That's plain fucked up. This isn't about abortion itself. It's about a fucking justifiable exception to a draconic stance. Oh I know. I was speaking solely about DarkTransient. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 10/17/18 9:23:29 AM #176: |
SageHarpuiaHX posted...
halomonkey1_3_5 posted...Nuance and context has never been a strong point for pro lifers Roe vs. Wade makes it not murder. Stop making up stories about reality. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BarneyBosco 10/17/18 10:15:30 AM #177: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
MuayThai85 posted...the father should be able to give up parental rights if he wants an abortion but the mother doesn't want one. The problem with that is tax payers end up paying to raise the unwanted kid. So fuck no. This would only work if the woman faces jail time for not being able to properly raise the kid after making the decision alone to keep it. We need to hold these kind of women responsible for their actions. --- http://celebmafia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Ana-Ivanovic-5.jpg PSN J_Frost77 search my PSN to join the Divinity Original Sin Community ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ilishe 10/17/18 10:20:47 AM #178: |
MuayThai85 posted...
a woman can have an abortion without the fathers input, then the father should be able to give up parental rights if he wants an abortion but the mother doesn't want one. This is how it probably should be --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SageHarpuiaHX 10/17/18 10:23:31 AM #179: |
Kineth posted...
SageHarpuiaHX posted...halomonkey1_3_5 posted...Nuance and context has never been a strong point for pro lifers Man can't change reality through legislation, no matter what you call it, it still kills a child. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BarneyBosco 10/17/18 10:25:17 AM #180: |
Ilishe posted...
MuayThai85 posted...a woman can have an abortion without the fathers input, then the father should be able to give up parental rights if he wants an abortion but the mother doesn't want one. So if the mother can't afford to raise the kid and the father opts out, are you guys going to pay for its diapers? --- http://celebmafia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Ana-Ivanovic-5.jpg PSN J_Frost77 search my PSN to join the Divinity Original Sin Community ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spudger 10/17/18 10:25:54 AM #181: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
Delirious_Beard posted...VipaGTS posted...TC you're usually smarter than this... He used to not be a shitposter --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Knowledge_King 10/17/18 10:27:44 AM #182: |
BarneyBosco posted...
So if the mother can't afford to raise the kid and the father opts out, are you guys going to pay for its diapers? She does what everyone else does? Gov't assistance or adoption. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Run: 4 Stars and IndieReader Approved:https://www.amazon.com/Run-M-N-ebook/dp/B076R7DCHN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BarneyBosco 10/17/18 10:33:55 AM #183: |
Knowledge_King posted...
BarneyBosco posted...So if the mother can't afford to raise the kid and the father opts out, are you guys going to pay for its diapers? Government assistance is paid for by you... --- http://celebmafia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Ana-Ivanovic-5.jpg PSN J_Frost77 search my PSN to join the Divinity Original Sin Community ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Learning 10/17/18 10:34:46 AM #184: |
BarneyBosco posted...
Knowledge_King posted...BarneyBosco posted...So if the mother can't afford to raise the kid and the father opts out, are you guys going to pay for its diapers? He's really (not) living up to his username --- Backup Conflict alt for the next week ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 10/17/18 10:35:48 AM #185: |
I don't think it's necessarily unreasonable for a society to contribute to raising the children of that society.
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creativerealms 10/17/18 10:50:54 AM #186: |
BarneyBosco posted...
Knowledge_King posted...BarneyBosco posted...So if the mother can't afford to raise the kid and the father opts out, are you guys going to pay for its diapers? Also remember the same people who want to ban abortion what to stop all government assistance, --- Sarcasm is my basic function. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jborgan 10/17/18 11:12:41 AM #187: |
SageHarpuiaHX posted...
Kineth posted...SageHarpuiaHX posted...halomonkey1_3_5 posted...Nuance and context has never been a strong point for pro lifers Oh well. The mother's rights come first. Deal with it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 10/17/18 1:22:35 PM #188: |
Anyone peddling the father should be able to avoid all responsibility if he wants an abortion needs to remember that the dude had the choice to bust inside or not. He made that choice with his body. As a result, the woman can make a choice with her body.
Stop trying to find ways to punish women for having sex. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MuayThai85 10/17/18 2:04:33 PM #189: |
The woman has 3 choices that could have avoided it from happening in the first place.
1. Use birth control. 2. Wear a condom. 3. Take the morning after pill (I don't consider this abortion because it simply induces a period, a lot of the time even before conception. She's just as guilty as he is for getting pregnant as he is. My wife got pregnant after a night of drunken sex where I didn't manage to pull out in time. We weren't happy about it but we decided to own our mistake and now we have an awesome little girl who I couldn't imagine my life without. The thought of having killed her before she was born makes me nauseous. Doesn't matter if she was just "a clump of cells" as the pro-abortion people like to claim (let's be real, they're pro-abortion not pro-choice). Also, men are being punished just as much as women for having sex if they are forced to financially support the child and mother for the next 18+ years whether they want to or not. Southernfatman posted... Bet if tc knocked up one of those Chinese hookers his wife apparently gets for him his stance would change. Same goes for any other pro lifers. I'm responsible enough to wear a condom and pull out to avoid that from ever happening. I've gone raw with 2 out of 50 or so women I've been with in my life and only managed to finish inside of those two. Plus, that was a one time thing because of the fact that I was alone in China for 3 months at the time. --- How can one person post so much stupid s***? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordMarshal 10/17/18 2:06:38 PM #190: |
How come i cant abort other peoples babies?
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MuayThai85 10/17/18 2:11:37 PM #191: |
LordMarshal posted...
How come i cant abort other peoples babies? This isn't about aborting another person's baby. It's about the double standard of what's considered murder or not of an unborn baby. No one has argued that he shouldn't go to jail, the argument is about what he should go to jail for. --- How can one person post so much stupid s***? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 10/17/18 2:13:59 PM #192: |
Every post TC makes I feel the growing stupidity of the statements spreading to me.
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NinjaBreakfast 10/17/18 2:18:45 PM #193: |
MuayThai85 posted...
Also, men are being punished just as much as women for having sex Lmfao --- https://imgur.com/nGZeEqw Do you really think you can beat me? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 10/17/18 2:22:40 PM #194: |
Hey at least she's getting her child support
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MuayThai85 10/17/18 2:25:26 PM #195: |
NinjaBreakfast posted...
MuayThai85 posted...Also, men are being punished just as much as women for having sex Being forced to care for a child (and mother) that you don't want seems like punishment to me. Women can kill it, men don't get that option. Men get punished if they don't want it but the mother dies. Men also get punished if they do want it but the mother doesn't. --- How can one person post so much stupid s***? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 10/17/18 2:29:08 PM #196: |
MuayThai85 posted...
LordMarshal posted...How come i cant abort other peoples babies? This is about aborting another persons baby and has been the entire time. You just keep ranting. MuayThai85 posted... NinjaBreakfast posted...MuayThai85 posted...Also, men are being punished just as much as women for having sex Men get the option to not bust inside, women get the option of what to do after that happens. Each person gets their choice. How the fuck is this hard to understand? --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 10/17/18 2:30:00 PM #197: |
Tmaster148 posted...
Probably because intentionally poisoning someone's drink is bad. Contraceptives are poison to a woman? I get the idea behind him violating her body, but how is it called poison? --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrevorBlack79 10/17/18 2:30:58 PM #198: |
MuayThai85 posted...
It's about the double standard of what's considered murder or not of an unborn baby. There is no double standard. Killing a fetus is murder unless it's being "evicted" by the only person with the moral and legal authority to do so - the owner of the uterus it currently occupies. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spudger 10/17/18 2:37:18 PM #199: |
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hollow_shrine 10/17/18 2:39:52 PM #200: |
I feel like a better tag system would just let you bookmark topics or certain posts and permanently tag them to users. It's so much more useful than a vague reminder because then you can glance at them and know exactly what's up.
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darkphoenix181 10/17/18 2:43:36 PM #201: |
YUHH posted...
An abortion is not murder because a woman is choosing to remove a fetus from her body before it develops consciousness and becomes a living organism. Ok. Why is it not a living organism in the first part but somehiw is in the second? You can't use potential life to call this murder when the reason it is ok to abort is because it is not alive... Because the abortion is also removing the potential life. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YUHH 10/17/18 2:54:41 PM #202: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
YUHH posted...An abortion is not murder because a woman is choosing to remove a fetus from her body before it develops consciousness and becomes a living organism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act --- https://i.imgtc.com/jUodQdE.jpg Barbecue confederate flags over spare time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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