Current Events > What is the appeal of Scott Pilgrim?

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Hipster overloadedness or what? Seriously.
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Not seen the film in years but I remember finding a lot of the dialogue quite funny.

Nerds desperate for video game references in their media.
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VG references. The comics were actually pretty cool, the movie was meh. Just flashed through a bunch of stuff and Lisa Miller was completely skipped.
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WaterLink posted...

VG references. The comics were actually pretty cool, the movie was meh. Just flashed through a bunch of stuff and Lisa Miller was completely skipped.

I mean Ready Player One and Rekt It With Ralph also had VG references but they weren't nearly as tryhard or as cringey.
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It's funny.
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Veggeta X posted...

WaterLink posted...

VG references. The comics were actually pretty cool, the movie was meh. Just flashed through a bunch of stuff and Lisa Miller was completely skipped.

I mean Ready Player One and Rekt It With Ralph also had VG references but they weren't nearly as tryhard or as cringey.

Like I said the movie flashed through a series of 6 books so the pacing was crazy and a lot of character development was scrapped, even entire characters were scrapped. It felt really rushed which probably led to the fast talking cringey dialogue.
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The transitions were enjoyable and I like how fast things generally happened.
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Matthew Patel: Didn't you get my email explaining the situation?

Scott Pilgrim: I skimmed it.

Wallace Wells: [shaking head] Mm-mm.
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Also I like their enterpretation of vegans. And it makes me believe there is really a vegan police
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It's a bit too sincere to fall under the hipster umbrella.

On the surface it's a coming of story about post-college kid stuck in a kind of emotional arrested development by a bad breakup, who retreats into pop cultural references from the nineties and the indie music scene. He's immature in a seemingly harmless way, and he's got a new girlfriend (who is dangerously too young for him). He freeloads, doesn't work, and gets playfully dunked on by the members of his band, but it's all in good fun. Or so it seems.

The plot kicks off when a mysterious new girl skates through his literal dreams and he reaches out to her to form a friendship only to discover he's got to defeat her exes. The world works with a kind of 90's nostalgic video game logic, and the cast sidesteps most cliches, even when they directly reference similar characters in other media.

In fact, it's a story about various forms of toxic behaviors including some forms of toxic masculinity (blatant examples, like the evil exes, and subtle examples that become a lot more insidious on personal reflection) and how they not only poison our relationships (both romantic and platonic) but also sabotage ourselves. Scott is not a reliable narrator and the world he inhabits is not always as dramatic or as wondrous as his perspective invites us to believe.

Also for a story about this boy, the novels spend a great of time exploring the cast of women touching not only on how they relate to Scott, but their relationships to one another and issues and frustrations in their own lives, and the ways they're working through it towards something better.
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The movie has to be one of the biggest piles of dogshit I've ever seen.
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They stripped a vegan of his superpowers by throwing milk at him.
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YUHH posted...

The movie has to be one of the biggest piles of dogshit I've ever seen.

Yeah, the movie has some cute moments, and I love Edgar Wright's talent for sound design and visual puns. But I don't think it's the best adaptation for the story. A big part of my frustration with it was that it kind of robbed all of the supporting cast members of their depth, and kind of just turned Ramona into a trophy to be won. Also Knives never gets her moment of realization where she understands just how shit of a boyfriend Scott actually was. The sixth book completes such a nice character character arc for her where she's clearly older and more worldly, but also still open and optimistic. She doesn't shut down poor Kim or quietly hate herself like Natalie and Ramona.

And cutting Lisa Miller. How? She the turning point for that book and the moment I realized it was actually going for some kind of emotional depth. And she's the missing link for Scott and Kim, and the beginning of the pattern that comes to define Scott's relationships. I realizing pacing is a thing and maybe they didn't yet know how this all needed to play out, but they needed to keep her.

Honestly, I think my favorite panels in those books, are the moments Scott sees that interaction between Gideon and Envy and sees echoes of his relationships in his treatment of her, and realizes the true connection between him and Gideon isn't Ramona, but a collection of toxic behaviors within themselves.
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It had its moments when it was first around but it hasn't aged gracefully.
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