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nemu 10/07/18 5:15:17 PM #101:	Rape culture is the same kind of thing as white privilege. It's a total mischaracterization on how the world works, turning everyone and everything into aggressors and victims. They need buzzwords to throw around at every issue instead of taking a nuanced look and actively trying to fix things. <cite>nemu posted [p:910130122] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote>Rape culture is the same kind of thing as white privilege. It's a total mischaracterization on how the world works, turning everyone and everything into aggressors and victims. They need buzzwords to throw around at every issue instead of taking a nuanced look and actively trying to fix things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 10/07/18 5:17:58 PM #103:	_Squirtle_ posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Youve ignored anything that you dont have an easy cop out for. 5 examples (directed at me) that weren't answered either by me or another person. No, Im not playing your silly games. Heres one: His definition is set up like if I frame it like this and use a very limited set of data, I can tell everyone theyre wrong. Would you consider the Catholic Church to have a problem with rape culture? How about prison? Now, do you think there has been an appropriate number of convictions for rapes that occurred in either of those cultures? --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:910130260] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Squirtle_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Youve ignored anything that you dont have an easy cop out for.</quote> 5 examples (directed at me) that weren't answered either by me or another person.</quote> No, Im not playing your silly games. Heres one: <quote>His definition is set up like if I frame it like this and use a very limited set of data, I can tell everyone theyre wrong. Would you consider the Catholic Church to have a problem with rape culture? How about prison? Now, do you think there has been an appropriate number of convictions for rapes that occurred in either of those cultures?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StanZarnack 10/07/18 5:18:03 PM #104:	Houston posted... About a minute into the video a girl says, "Literally I'm shaking. Do you not know how triggering this is?" Lol!! I seriously thought those terms weren't said unironically anymore. This video is going to be great shes a fucking rape victim genius. hes only after a reaction for cheap video views, no regard for the people like typical far-right trash. --- Common sense is not so common. <cite>StanZarnack posted [p:910130267] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>Houston posted...</cite> <quote>About a minute into the video a girl says, "Literally I'm shaking. Do you not know how triggering this is?" Lol!! I seriously thought those terms weren't said unironically anymore. This video is going to be great</quote> shes a fucking rape victim genius. hes only after a reaction for cheap video views, no regard for the people like typical far-right trash.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CasualGuy 10/07/18 5:19:10 PM #106:	Watched the video and based on his definition I would agree Does US society promote men/women to go out and rape people? No, I don't think so. Does US society condone men/women who go out and rape people? No, I don't think so. Have some rapists got off easy? Sure, but I don't think that means our entire society encourages or condones rape. --- https://imgur.com/MoE9O68 <cite>CasualGuy posted [p:910130336] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote>Watched the video and based on his definition I would agree Does US society promote men/women to go out and rape people? No, I don't think so. Does US society condone men/women who go out and rape people? No, I don't think so. Have some rapists got off easy? Sure, but I don't think that means our entire society encourages or condones rape.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StanZarnack 10/07/18 5:19:13 PM #107:	_Goggalor_ posted... Lol. yes, she has a real problem, borderline boy. --- Common sense is not so common. <cite>StanZarnack posted [p:910130338] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote>Lol. </quote> yes, she has a real problem, borderline boy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Goggalor_ 10/07/18 5:19:56 PM #108:	StanZarnack posted... _Goggalor_ posted... Lol. yes, she has a real problem, borderline boy. Lol. --- Www.deviantart.com/goggalor1990 Reading: Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace <cite>_Goggalor_ posted [p:910130375] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>StanZarnack posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote>Lol. </quote> yes, she has a real problem, borderline boy.</quote> Lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 10/07/18 5:20:02 PM #109:	Darth-Bastard posted... funny how people want to say were ignoring them when they so obviously ignored the whole fucking video His logic is based around a statistic that doesnt account for unreported rapes. If he doesnt want to be intellectually honest then his video is pointless. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:910130382] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darth-Bastard posted...</cite> <quote>funny how people want to say were ignoring them when they so obviously ignored the whole fucking video</quote> His logic is based around a statistic that doesnt account for unreported rapes. If he doesnt want to be intellectually honest then his video is pointless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 10/07/18 5:22:17 PM #111:	I feel like we only have to look at the way society reacted to the Aziz Ansari incident to determine that the US, at the very least, has a lot of trouble talking about sexual behavior in any honest way. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:910130496] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote>I feel like we only have to look at the way society reacted to the Aziz Ansari incident to determine that the US, at the very least, has a lot of trouble talking about sexual behavior in any honest way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Squirtle_ 10/07/18 5:23:14 PM #112:	King_Hellebuyck posted... _Squirtle_ posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Youve ignored anything that you dont have an easy cop out for. 5 examples (directed at me) that weren't answered either by me or another person. No, Im not playing your silly games. Heres one: His definition is set up like if I frame it like this and use a very limited set of data, I can tell everyone theyre wrong. Would you consider the Catholic Church to have a problem with rape culture? How about prison? Now, do you think there has been an appropriate number of convictions for rapes that occurred in either of those cultures? Ok so you went from saying I'm ignoring everything to "wahh you ignored one of my comments." That makes a little more sense. And that's not how his definition is set up. "limited set of data" from a guy that didn't watch the video about people not interested in data to begin with. --- https://imgur.com/nkfrakV <cite>_Squirtle_ posted [p:910130556] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Squirtle_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Youve ignored anything that you dont have an easy cop out for.</quote> 5 examples (directed at me) that weren't answered either by me or another person.</quote> No, Im not playing your silly games. Heres one: <quote>His definition is set up like if I frame it like this and use a very limited set of data, I can tell everyone theyre wrong. Would you consider the Catholic Church to have a problem with rape culture? How about prison? Now, do you think there has been an appropriate number of convictions for rapes that occurred in either of those cultures?</quote></quote> Ok so you went from saying I'm ignoring everything to "wahh you ignored one of my comments." That makes a little more sense. And that's not how his definition is set up. "limited set of data" from a guy that didn't watch the video about people not interested in data to begin with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 10/07/18 5:25:04 PM #113:	_Squirtle_ posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... _Squirtle_ posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Youve ignored anything that you dont have an easy cop out for. 5 examples (directed at me) that weren't answered either by me or another person. No, Im not playing your silly games. Heres one: His definition is set up like if I frame it like this and use a very limited set of data, I can tell everyone theyre wrong. Would you consider the Catholic Church to have a problem with rape culture? How about prison? Now, do you think there has been an appropriate number of convictions for rapes that occurred in either of those cultures? Ok so you went from saying I'm ignoring everything to "wahh you ignored one of my comments." That makes a little more sense. And that's not how his definition is set up. "limited set of data" from a guy that didn't watch the video about people not interested in data to begin with. Nah youve continually ignored every response to you that you dont have a cop out answer for. See how you didnt answer me, just used a cheap cop out? --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:910130678] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Squirtle_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Squirtle_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Youve ignored anything that you dont have an easy cop out for.</quote> 5 examples (directed at me) that weren't answered either by me or another person.</quote> No, Im not playing your silly games. Heres one: <quote>His definition is set up like if I frame it like this and use a very limited set of data, I can tell everyone theyre wrong. Would you consider the Catholic Church to have a problem with rape culture? How about prison? Now, do you think there has been an appropriate number of convictions for rapes that occurred in either of those cultures?</quote></quote> Ok so you went from saying I'm ignoring everything to "wahh you ignored one of my comments." That makes a little more sense. And that's not how his definition is set up. "limited set of data" from a guy that didn't watch the video about people not interested in data to begin with.</quote> Nah youve continually ignored every response to you that you dont have a cop out answer for. See how you didnt answer me, just used a cheap cop out?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Squirtle_ 10/07/18 5:25:52 PM #114:	King_Hellebuyck posted... Nah youve continually ignored every response to you that you dont have a cop out answer for. See how you didnt answer me, just used a cheap cop out? All Hail King Connor! I said you were wrong. You're wrong because you're commenting on a video you haven't actually watched. --- https://imgur.com/nkfrakV <cite>_Squirtle_ posted [p:910130714] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Nah youve continually ignored every response to you that you dont have a cop out answer for. See how you didnt answer me, just used a cheap cop out? All Hail King Connor!</quote> I said you were wrong. You're wrong because you're commenting on a video you haven't actually watched.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 10/07/18 5:27:07 PM #115:	_Squirtle_ posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Nah youve continually ignored every response to you that you dont have a cop out answer for. See how you didnt answer me, just used a cheap cop out? All Hail King Connor! I said you were wrong. You're wrong because you're commenting on a video you haven't actually watched. You ignored the content of the post entirely to use this cop out. Youre not fooling anyone. You know that, right? --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:910130774] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Squirtle_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Nah youve continually ignored every response to you that you dont have a cop out answer for. See how you didnt answer me, just used a cheap cop out? All Hail King Connor!</quote> I said you were wrong. You're wrong because you're commenting on a video you haven't actually watched.</quote> You ignored the content of the post entirely to use this cop out. Youre not fooling anyone. You know that, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Squirtle_ 10/07/18 5:27:39 PM #116:	King_Hellebuyck posted... You ignored the content of the post entirely to use this cop out. Youre not fooling anyone. You know that, right? there is no content because you'd need to actually know what we're talking about to provide content. You can't not watch a video, and then try to talk to people about the contents of the video. You know that, right? --- https://imgur.com/nkfrakV <cite>_Squirtle_ posted [p:910130800] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>You ignored the content of the post entirely to use this cop out. Youre not fooling anyone. You know that, right?</quote> there is no content because you'd need to actually know what we're talking about to provide content. You can't not watch a video, and then try to talk to people about the contents of the video. You know that, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 10/07/18 5:28:06 PM #117:	_Squirtle_ posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... You ignored the content of the post entirely to use this cop out. Youre not fooling anyone. You know that, right? there is no content because you'd need to actually know what we're talking about to provide content. Ok so youre just trolling --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:910130814] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Squirtle_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>You ignored the content of the post entirely to use this cop out. Youre not fooling anyone. You know that, right?</quote> there is no content because you'd need to actually know what we're talking about to provide content.</quote> Ok so youre just trolling</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/07/18 5:28:26 PM #118:	nemu posted... Rape culture is the same kind of thing as white privilege. It's a total mischaracterization on how the world works, turning everyone and everything into aggressors and victims. They need buzzwords to throw around at every issue instead of taking a nuanced look and actively trying to fix things. If we want to talk mischaracterization... I think a lot of reasons these arguments fail early is because people who don't want to believe these aspects of society exist will, instead of trying to understand the rationale of those who coined the terms, will instead define the terms for themselves and use that as a starting point for the argument against them. Or to put it another way, "rape culture" is not defined as "a culture that promotes/condones rape", and beginning an argument from that point is pretty doggone disingenuous. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:910130832] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Rape culture is the same kind of thing as white privilege. It's a total mischaracterization on how the world works, turning everyone and everything into aggressors and victims. They need buzzwords to throw around at every issue instead of taking a nuanced look and actively trying to fix things.</quote> If we want to talk mischaracterization... I think a lot of reasons these arguments fail early is because people who don't want to believe these aspects of society exist will, instead of trying to understand the rationale of those who coined the terms, will instead define the terms for themselves and use that as a starting point for the argument against them. Or to put it another way, "rape culture" is not defined as "a culture that promotes/condones rape", and beginning an argument from that point is pretty doggone disingenuous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abiz_ 10/07/18 5:29:29 PM #119:	Doom_Art posted... Dude clearly isn't interested in arguing in good faith, and isn't interested in having his mind changed You don't need those things to have a debate. What you are talking about is winning. If stats are wrong prove it. <cite>Abiz_ posted [p:910130893] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Dude clearly isn't interested in arguing in good faith, and isn't interested in having his mind changed</quote> You don't need those things to have a debate. What you are talking about is winning. If stats are wrong prove it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Squirtle_ 10/07/18 5:29:39 PM #120:	King_Hellebuyck posted... _Squirtle_ posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... You ignored the content of the post entirely to use this cop out. Youre not fooling anyone. You know that, right? there is no content because you'd need to actually know what we're talking about to provide content. Ok so youre just trolling yeah I'm the troll. "lets talk about this video" "I haven't watched it but here's my 2 cents" "your 2 cents don't matter since you didn't watch the video" "troll" yeah okay --- https://imgur.com/nkfrakV <cite>_Squirtle_ posted [p:910130906] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Squirtle_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>You ignored the content of the post entirely to use this cop out. Youre not fooling anyone. You know that, right?</quote> there is no content because you'd need to actually know what we're talking about to provide content.</quote> Ok so youre just trolling</quote> yeah I'm the troll. "lets talk about this video" "I haven't watched it but here's my 2 cents" "your 2 cents don't matter since you didn't watch the video" "troll" yeah okay</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 10/07/18 5:31:03 PM #121:	Darth-Bastard posted... StanZarnack posted... Houston posted... About a minute into the video a girl says, "Literally I'm shaking. Do you not know how triggering this is?" Lol!! I seriously thought those terms weren't said unironically anymore. This video is going to be great shes a fucking rape victim genius. hes only after a reaction for cheap video views, no regard for the people like typical far-right trash. being a victim of rape isnt a pass for you to act like a child being after a reaction for cheap video views is also not a pass to be a human shitstain --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:910130979] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darth-Bastard posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StanZarnack posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Houston posted...</cite> <quote>About a minute into the video a girl says, "Literally I'm shaking. Do you not know how triggering this is?" Lol!! I seriously thought those terms weren't said unironically anymore. This video is going to be great</quote> shes a fucking rape victim genius. hes only after a reaction for cheap video views, no regard for the people like typical far-right trash.</quote> being a victim of rape isnt a pass for you to act like a child</quote> being after a reaction for cheap video views is also not a pass to be a human shitstain</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WizardPowers 10/07/18 5:33:48 PM #123:	averagejoel posted... being after a reaction for cheap video views is also not a pass to be a human shitstain how was he a shit stain in this particular video? The only poor thing he did in this video is maybe have a narrow definition of "rape culture" but there is no actual definition for that anyways. Everything he actually said was completely realistic. --- https://imgur.com/FS3aeNW https://imgur.com/Hy9IDHK <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:910131140] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>being after a reaction for cheap video views is also not a pass to be a human shitstain</quote> how was he a shit stain in this particular video? The only poor thing he did in this video is maybe have a narrow definition of "rape culture" but there is no actual definition for that anyways. Everything he actually said was completely realistic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EbonTitanium 10/07/18 5:34:34 PM #124:	billcom6 posted... The fact that people still ask "What was she wearing?" when a woman gets raped is all the proof needed to show that some form of "rape culture" exists. This Isn't a good point. --- I don't know which is worse: fanboys or elitist. <cite>EbonTitanium posted [p:910131179] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>billcom6 posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that people still ask "What was she wearing?" when a woman gets raped is all the proof needed to show that some form of "rape culture" exists.</quote> This Isn't a good point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 10/07/18 5:39:30 PM #125:	CyricZ posted... nemu posted... Rape culture is the same kind of thing as white privilege. It's a total mischaracterization on how the world works, turning everyone and everything into aggressors and victims. They need buzzwords to throw around at every issue instead of taking a nuanced look and actively trying to fix things. If we want to talk mischaracterization... I think a lot of reasons these arguments fail early is because people who don't want to believe these aspects of society exist will, instead of trying to understand the rationale of those who coined the terms, will instead define the terms for themselves and use that as a starting point for the argument against them. Or to put it another way, "rape culture" is not defined as "a culture that promotes/condones rape", and beginning an argument from that point is pretty doggone disingenuous. The definition will entirely depend on who you're talking to for sure, but pretty much anyone who is going to use it is the entitled gender studies graduate type. There may be people and academics who try to utilize it in a different context, but it's drowned out. But that does not remove the larger problem of such discourse. Those kinds of terms create a victim complex, boiling it down to the idea that society is severely flawed and "toxic." They are used in such a way not to fix anything, but to blame things. "Things are like this because of 'buzzword.'" <cite>nemu posted [p:910131429] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Rape culture is the same kind of thing as white privilege. It's a total mischaracterization on how the world works, turning everyone and everything into aggressors and victims. They need buzzwords to throw around at every issue instead of taking a nuanced look and actively trying to fix things.</quote> If we want to talk mischaracterization... I think a lot of reasons these arguments fail early is because people who don't want to believe these aspects of society exist will, instead of trying to understand the rationale of those who coined the terms, will instead define the terms for themselves and use that as a starting point for the argument against them. Or to put it another way, "rape culture" is not defined as "a culture that promotes/condones rape", and beginning an argument from that point is pretty doggone disingenuous.</quote> The definition will entirely depend on who you're talking to for sure, but pretty much anyone who is going to use it is the entitled gender studies graduate type. There may be people and academics who try to utilize it in a different context, but it's drowned out. But that does not remove the larger problem of such discourse. Those kinds of terms create a victim complex, boiling it down to the idea that society is severely flawed and "toxic." They are used in such a way not to fix anything, but to blame things. "Things are like this because of 'buzzword.'"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 10/07/18 5:40:47 PM #126:	EbonTitanium posted... This Isn't a good point. Because you think people don't say it or because you don't think that it being a common sentiment is important? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:910131494] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>EbonTitanium posted...</cite> <quote>This Isn't a good point. </quote> Because you think people don't say it or because you don't think that it being a common sentiment is important?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 10/07/18 5:40:54 PM #127:	Darth-Bastard posted... ignoring videos for the convenience of keeping up the charade of thinking youre correct isnt a pass for you to pretend to be in favor of intellectual debate regarding said video I never claimed to be in favour of intellectual debate regarding Stephen Crowder. thank you for your input. WizardPowers posted... how was he a shit stain in this particular video? The only poor thing he did in this video is maybe have a narrow definition of "rape culture" but there is no actual definition for that anyways. Everything he actually said was completely realistic. oh I'm just talking generally about him, not necessarily about that video --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:910131498] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darth-Bastard posted...</cite> <quote>ignoring videos for the convenience of keeping up the charade of thinking youre correct isnt a pass for you to pretend to be in favor of intellectual debate regarding said video </quote> I never claimed to be in favour of intellectual debate regarding Stephen Crowder. thank you for your input. <cite>WizardPowers posted...</cite> <quote>how was he a shit stain in this particular video? The only poor thing he did in this video is maybe have a narrow definition of "rape culture" but there is no actual definition for that anyways. Everything he actually said was completely realistic.</quote> oh I'm just talking generally about him, not necessarily about that video</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/07/18 5:43:56 PM #128:	nemu posted... entitled gender studies graduate type Sorry, either they misdefine the term or they try to discredit the claimant outright. Forgot the second part of that. nemu posted... They are used in such a way not to fix anything, but to blame things. With any problem, you have to identify the root cause before you can fix anything, or at least improve it, and when the root cause is presented and those in power respond "no it's not", that's why things don't get fixed. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:910131656] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>entitled gender studies graduate type</quote> Sorry, either they misdefine the term or they try to discredit the claimant outright. Forgot the second part of that. <cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>They are used in such a way not to fix anything, but to blame things.</quote> With any problem, you have to identify the root cause before you can fix anything, or at least improve it, and when the root cause is presented and those in power respond "no it's not", that's why things don't get fixed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 10/07/18 5:45:12 PM #129:	_Squirtle_ posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... _Squirtle_ posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... You ignored the content of the post entirely to use this cop out. Youre not fooling anyone. You know that, right? there is no content because you'd need to actually know what we're talking about to provide content. Ok so youre just trolling yeah I'm the troll. "lets talk about this video" "I haven't watched it but here's my 2 cents" "your 2 cents don't matter since you didn't watch the video" "troll" yeah okay If you mischaracterize and/or ignore everything that you dont have an easy answer to then its hard to believe youre being genuine --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:910131720] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Squirtle_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Squirtle_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>You ignored the content of the post entirely to use this cop out. Youre not fooling anyone. You know that, right?</quote> there is no content because you'd need to actually know what we're talking about to provide content.</quote> Ok so youre just trolling</quote> yeah I'm the troll. "lets talk about this video" "I haven't watched it but here's my 2 cents" "your 2 cents don't matter since you didn't watch the video" "troll" yeah okay</quote> If you mischaracterize and/or ignore everything that you dont have an easy answer to then its hard to believe youre being genuine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 10/07/18 5:49:58 PM #130:	CyricZ posted... nemu posted... entitled gender studies graduate type Sorry, either they misdefine the term or they try to discredit the claimant outright. Forgot the second part of that. nemu posted... They are used in such a way not to fix anything, but to blame things. With any problem, you have to identify the root cause before you can fix anything, or at least improve it, and when the root cause is presented and those in power respond "no it's not", that's why things don't get fixed. There is a difference between discussing a problem and trying to bundle it up into some kind of all inclusive term that can be "fought." You can say "there are problems that are greatly affecting the black community" and fight against those problems where they arise. Ascribing the term "white privilege" may be an attempt to put a term to those problems, but you're instead simply creating an aggressor and victim. That is the same idea with rape culture, patriarchy, etc. It doesn't matter that these terms may have more neutral definitions. What matters is how they are used by the people who use them. The second someone says "it's the fault of X", the purpose has been lost. <cite>nemu posted [p:910131984] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>entitled gender studies graduate type</quote> Sorry, either they misdefine the term or they try to discredit the claimant outright. Forgot the second part of that. <cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>They are used in such a way not to fix anything, but to blame things.</quote> With any problem, you have to identify the root cause before you can fix anything, or at least improve it, and when the root cause is presented and those in power respond "no it's not", that's why things don't get fixed.</quote> There is a difference between discussing a problem and trying to bundle it up into some kind of all inclusive term that can be "fought." You can say "there are problems that are greatly affecting the black community" and fight against those problems where they arise. Ascribing the term "white privilege" may be an attempt to put a term to those problems, but you're instead simply creating an aggressor and victim. That is the same idea with rape culture, patriarchy, etc. It doesn't matter that these terms may have more neutral definitions. What matters is how they are used by the people who use them. The second someone says "it's the fault of X", the purpose has been lost.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Squirtle_ 10/07/18 5:53:40 PM #132:	King_Hellebuyck posted... If you mischaracterize and/or ignore everything that you dont have an easy answer to then its hard to believe youre being genuine everything being that 1 instance you can't get over go watch the video and I'll take your comments more seriously, troll. never should interact with people that have more posts than karma --- https://imgur.com/nkfrakV <cite>_Squirtle_ posted [p:910132183] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>If you mischaracterize and/or ignore everything that you dont have an easy answer to then its hard to believe youre being genuine</quote> everything being that 1 instance you can't get over go watch the video and I'll take your comments more seriously, troll. never should interact with people that have more posts than karma</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 10/07/18 5:55:08 PM #133:	_Squirtle_ posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... If you mischaracterize and/or ignore everything that you dont have an easy answer to then its hard to believe youre being genuine everything being that 1 instance you can't get over go watch the video and I'll take your comments more seriously Another cop out? Color me shocked --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:910132257] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Squirtle_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>If you mischaracterize and/or ignore everything that you dont have an easy answer to then its hard to believe youre being genuine</quote> everything being that 1 instance you can't get over go watch the video and I'll take your comments more seriously</quote> Another cop out? Color me shocked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardPowers 10/07/18 5:57:55 PM #134:	hes just trolling you squirtle dude --- https://imgur.com/FS3aeNW https://imgur.com/Hy9IDHK <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:910132399] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote>hes just trolling you squirtle dude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 10/07/18 5:59:45 PM #136:	WizardPowers posted... hes just trolling you squirtle dude No, I made the accurate point that using a statistic that ignores unreported rapes does nothing to demonstrate a lack of rape culture and is disingenuous. And now no one wants to engage for some reason --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:910132496] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>WizardPowers posted...</cite> <quote>hes just trolling you squirtle dude</quote> No, I made the accurate point that using a statistic that ignores unreported rapes does nothing to demonstrate a lack of rape culture and is disingenuous. And now no one wants to engage for some reason </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Squirtle_ 10/07/18 6:03:12 PM #137:	King_Hellebuyck posted... WizardPowers posted... hes just trolling you squirtle dude No, I made the accurate point that using a statistic that ignores unreported rapes does nothing to demonstrate a lack of rape culture and is disingenuous. And now no one wants to engage for some reason maybe demonstrate that you've watched the video and people will include you in the conversations about the video wild thought --- https://imgur.com/nkfrakV <cite>_Squirtle_ posted [p:910132660] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WizardPowers posted...</cite> <quote>hes just trolling you squirtle dude</quote> No, I made the accurate point that using a statistic that ignores unreported rapes does nothing to demonstrate a lack of rape culture and is disingenuous. And now no one wants to engage for some reason </quote> maybe demonstrate that you've watched the video and people will include you in the conversations about the video wild thought</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 10/07/18 6:04:27 PM #138:	_Squirtle_ posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... WizardPowers posted... hes just trolling you squirtle dude No, I made the accurate point that using a statistic that ignores unreported rapes does nothing to demonstrate a lack of rape culture and is disingenuous. And now no one wants to engage for some reason maybe demonstrate that you've watched the video and people will include you in the conversations about the video wild thought Seems pretty obvious at this point that you just dont have a legitimate response and youre trying to waste my time --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:910132729] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Squirtle_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WizardPowers posted...</cite> <quote>hes just trolling you squirtle dude</quote> No, I made the accurate point that using a statistic that ignores unreported rapes does nothing to demonstrate a lack of rape culture and is disingenuous. And now no one wants to engage for some reason </quote> maybe demonstrate that you've watched the video and people will include you in the conversations about the video wild thought</quote> Seems pretty obvious at this point that you just dont have a legitimate response and youre trying to waste my time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Squirtle_ 10/07/18 6:05:16 PM #139:	King_Hellebuyck posted... Seems pretty obvious at this point that you just dont have a legitimate response and youre trying to waste my time you know what would be a real waste of your time? Arguing about a video you haven't watched. you know what wouldn't be? Arguing about a video you have watched. --- https://imgur.com/nkfrakV <cite>_Squirtle_ posted [p:910132768] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote> Seems pretty obvious at this point that you just dont have a legitimate response and youre trying to waste my time</quote> you know what would be a real waste of your time? Arguing about a video you haven't watched. you know what wouldn't be? Arguing about a video you have watched.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardPowers 10/07/18 6:08:15 PM #140:	yeah if he had spent all that time bickering with you actually watching the video, there would be like 30 minutes left over lol --- https://imgur.com/FS3aeNW https://imgur.com/Hy9IDHK <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:910132929] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote>yeah if he had spent all that time bickering with you actually watching the video, there would be like 30 minutes left over lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 10/07/18 6:09:05 PM #141:	Still no counter argument? How unsurprising. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:910132978] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote>Still no counter argument? How unsurprising.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 10/07/18 6:11:01 PM #143:	Do you have an excuse for him using a statistic that doesnt include unreported rapes? --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:910133084] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote>Do you have an excuse for him using a statistic that doesnt include unreported rapes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Squirtle_ 10/07/18 6:11:57 PM #144:	King_Hellebuyck posted... Do you have an excuse for him using a statistic that doesnt include unreported rapes? how do you know that's what he used? Maybe he did. You wouldn't know since you didn't watch the video. --- https://imgur.com/nkfrakV <cite>_Squirtle_ posted [p:910133131] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Do you have an excuse for him using a statistic that doesnt include unreported rapes?</quote> how do you know that's what he used? Maybe he did. You wouldn't know since you didn't watch the video.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 10/07/18 6:14:08 PM #145:	Youre the one who claimed he used that stat. Were you lying? --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:910133227] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote>Youre the one who claimed he used that stat. Were you lying?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Squirtle_ 10/07/18 6:15:35 PM #147:	King_Hellebuyck posted... Youre the one who claimed he used that stat. Were you lying? Yep or maybe no either way, go watch the video --- https://imgur.com/nkfrakV <cite>_Squirtle_ posted [p:910133306] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Youre the one who claimed he used that stat. Were you lying?</quote> Yep or maybe no either way, go watch the video</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 10/07/18 6:16:40 PM #148:	Nice to know you guys cant actually back up your stances at all so you have to resort to trolling --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:910133355] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote>Nice to know you guys cant actually back up your stances at all so you have to resort to trolling</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Squirtle_ 10/07/18 6:19:40 PM #149:	King_Hellebuyck posted... Nice to know you guys cant actually back up your stances at all so you have to resort to trolling It's like those rules at amusement parks. "you must be X height before you ride this ride" except you must watch the video before I care about interacting with you seriously even if you have a good point. --- https://imgur.com/nkfrakV <cite>_Squirtle_ posted [p:910133503] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Nice to know you guys cant actually back up your stances at all so you have to resort to trolling</quote> It's like those rules at amusement parks. "you must be X height before you ride this ride" except you must watch the video before I care about interacting with you seriously even if you have a good point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 10/07/18 6:20:06 PM #150:	I read 15 pages of this topic, and my mind was not changed. There is no "rape culture" in the U.S. --- "It's not a Great Wall, it's an alright wall. It's the Alright Wall of China." <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:910133521] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote>I read 15 pages of this topic, and my mind was not changed. There is no "rape culture" in the U.S.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 10/07/18 6:57:03 PM #151:	Darth-Bastard posted... I never claimed to be in favour of intellectual debate regarding Stephen Crowder. thank you for your input. if you cant intellectually debate an argument brought forth by steven crowder, how can you be expected to intellectually debate someone you would respect as being smarter? one part of being smarter involves having points that merit refutation. nothing Stephen Crowder says merits anything better than a fist to his face --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:910135487] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darth-Bastard posted...</cite> <quote><quote>I never claimed to be in favour of intellectual debate regarding Stephen Crowder. thank you for your input.</quote> if you cant intellectually debate an argument brought forth by steven crowder, how can you be expected to intellectually debate someone you would respect as being smarter?</quote> one part of being smarter involves having points that merit refutation. nothing Stephen Crowder says merits anything better than a fist to his face</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 10/07/18 7:02:50 PM #152:	averagejoel posted... Darth-Bastard posted... I never claimed to be in favour of intellectual debate regarding Stephen Crowder. thank you for your input. if you cant intellectually debate an argument brought forth by steven crowder, how can you be expected to intellectually debate someone you would respect as being smarter? one part of being smarter involves having points that merit refutation. nothing Stephen Crowder says merits anything better than a fist to his face More people on the left that resort to violence when they can't debate. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:910135814] in Crowder's ... [t:77076471]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darth-Bastard posted...</cite> <quote><quote>I never claimed to be in favour of intellectual debate regarding Stephen Crowder. thank you for your input.</quote> if you cant intellectually debate an argument brought forth by steven crowder, how can you be expected to intellectually debate someone you would respect as being smarter?</quote> one part of being smarter involves having points that merit refutation. nothing Stephen Crowder says merits anything better than a fist to his face</quote> More people on the left that resort to violence when they can't debate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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