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Bestoffuture 10/03/18 5:32:07 PM #1:	https://i.redd.it/nmun04tahop11.jpg America's health system is fucked up. --- Proud leader of the Peypals Turbam 2020: Make America :V again <cite>Bestoffuture posted [p:909903358] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote>https://i.redd.it/nmun04tahop11.jpg America's health system is fucked up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 10/03/18 5:34:39 PM #2:	I'd much rather worry about where my next meal comes from because I can't afford groceries after bills and taxes. That insurance would kill me but at least I wouldn't have to worry about paying the hospital bill in the off chance something bad happened. --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:909903475] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote>I'd much rather worry about where my next meal comes from because I can't afford groceries after bills and taxes. That insurance would kill me but at least I wouldn't have to worry about paying the hospital bill in the off chance something bad happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rick-C137 10/03/18 5:35:11 PM #3:	It costs to live --- Rickest Rick bro <cite>Rick-C137 posted [p:909903505] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote>It costs to live</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/03/18 5:36:13 PM #4:	Why doesn't this person have car or health insurance? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:909903555] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote>Why doesn't this person have car or health insurance?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 10/03/18 5:36:48 PM #5:	Rick-C137 posted... It costs to live Almost everything in life costs something. That's just a fact of life. NOTHING IS EVER FREE! Trying to deny that is lunacy. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:909903589] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rick-C137 posted...</cite> <quote>It costs to live</quote>Almost everything in life costs something. That's just a fact of life. NOTHING IS EVER FREE! Trying to deny that is lunacy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 10/03/18 5:39:29 PM #6:	KamenRiderBlade posted... Rick-C137 posted... It costs to live Almost everything in life costs something. That's just a fact of life. NOTHING IS EVER FREE! Trying to deny that is lunacy. Sure but it doesn't have to come from big daddy government. --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:909903733] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rick-C137 posted...</cite> <quote>It costs to live</quote>Almost everything in life costs something. That's just a fact of life. NOTHING IS EVER FREE! Trying to deny that is lunacy.</quote> Sure but it doesn't have to come from big daddy government.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrestedTax 10/03/18 5:40:09 PM #7:	Title should be "why you should pay and get a health insurance." <cite>CrestedTax posted [p:909903767] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote>Title should be "why you should pay and get a health insurance."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 10/03/18 5:44:28 PM #9:	Half the country cares more about CEOs making more money than they need than some poor person who lives paycheck to paycheck having a medical emergency and being bankrupted by that. America's mindset is completely warped. And a lot of these said people get Medicare/caid too. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:909903994] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote>Half the country cares more about CEOs making more money than they need than some poor person who lives paycheck to paycheck having a medical emergency and being bankrupted by that. America's mindset is completely warped. And a lot of these said people get Medicare/caid too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 10/03/18 5:44:38 PM #10:	Support for universal healthcare for the legal citizenry is one of my left leaning positions. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:909904002] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote>Support for universal healthcare for the legal citizenry is one of my left leaning positions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SageHarpuia 10/03/18 5:48:05 PM #12:	Esrac posted... Support for universal healthcare for the legal citizenry is one of my left leaning positions. Suddenly Google searches for "Can I forfeit my US Citizenship?" skyrocket --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:909904196] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>Support for universal healthcare for the legal citizenry is one of my left leaning positions.</quote> Suddenly Google searches for "Can I forfeit my US Citizenship?" skyrocket</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/03/18 5:52:15 PM #13:	Nobody apparently finds it odd that healthcare is pretty much the only service where the price is unknown until the end of the transaction. The paramedic simply didn't know. The tow-truck guy would have pressed a few buttons on a calculator and given you a number right there. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:909904413] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote>Nobody apparently finds it odd that healthcare is pretty much the only service where the price is unknown until the end of the transaction. The paramedic simply didn't know. The tow-truck guy would have pressed a few buttons on a calculator and given you a number right there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 10/03/18 5:53:23 PM #14:	Questionmarktarius posted... Nobody apparently finds it odd that healthcare is pretty much the only service where the price is unknown until the end of the transaction. The paramedic simply didn't know. The tow-truck guy would have pressed a few buttons on a calculator and given you a number right there. Medicine isn't as cut and dry as a towing service --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:909904490] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody apparently finds it odd that healthcare is pretty much the only service where the price is unknown until the end of the transaction. The paramedic simply didn't know. The tow-truck guy would have pressed a few buttons on a calculator and given you a number right there.</quote> Medicine isn't as cut and dry as a towing service</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 10/03/18 5:57:49 PM #17:	https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Statistics-Trends-and-Reports/NationalHealthExpendData/NationalHealthAccountsHistorical.html There you go. If we all pitch in $10,348 each, that'll cover everyone. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:909904731] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Statistics-Trends-and-Reports/NationalHealthExpendData/NationalHealthAccountsHistorical.html There you go. If we all pitch in $10,348 each, that'll cover everyone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 10/03/18 5:58:50 PM #19:	Questionmarktarius posted... Nobody apparently finds it odd that healthcare is pretty much the only service where the price is unknown until the end of the transaction. The paramedic simply didn't know. The tow-truck guy would have pressed a few buttons on a calculator and given you a number right there. No kidding. A few weeks back, I went to an orthopedic doctor and they wanted me to get an X-Ray. I asked how much it would cost and they looked at me like I took a dump on the floor. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:909904789] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody apparently finds it odd that healthcare is pretty much the only service where the price is unknown until the end of the transaction. The paramedic simply didn't know. The tow-truck guy would have pressed a few buttons on a calculator and given you a number right there.</quote> No kidding. A few weeks back, I went to an orthopedic doctor and they wanted me to get an X-Ray. I asked how much it would cost and they looked at me like I took a dump on the floor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanHarenChamp 10/03/18 6:00:20 PM #20:	For all the people complaining about why this person doesnt have health insurance, despite having health insurance it may still cost thousands of dollars in deductibles and out of pocket expenses. And some people just can't afford that. I have good insurance, but I fear the same thing, what if I randomly have an appendicitis or cholecystitis and need some urgent surgery and end up getting hospitalized for a few days.....it'll cost me alot of money that I don't have at the moment. --- literally the pacers <cite>DanHarenChamp posted [p:909904876] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote>For all the people complaining about why this person doesnt have health insurance, despite having health insurance it may still cost thousands of dollars in deductibles and out of pocket expenses. And some people just can't afford that. I have good insurance, but I fear the same thing, what if I randomly have an appendicitis or cholecystitis and need some urgent surgery and end up getting hospitalized for a few days.....it'll cost me alot of money that I don't have at the moment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/03/18 6:00:27 PM #21:	Esrac posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Nobody apparently finds it odd that healthcare is pretty much the only service where the price is unknown until the end of the transaction. The paramedic simply didn't know. The tow-truck guy would have pressed a few buttons on a calculator and given you a number right there. No kidding. A few weeks back, I went to an orthopedic doctor and they wanted me to get an X-Ray. I asked how much it would cost and they looked at me like I took a dump on the floor. Yet, the oral surgeon putting a titanium screw into my head was able to give me a specific number right up front, at the initial consultation. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:909904880] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody apparently finds it odd that healthcare is pretty much the only service where the price is unknown until the end of the transaction. The paramedic simply didn't know. The tow-truck guy would have pressed a few buttons on a calculator and given you a number right there.</quote> No kidding. A few weeks back, I went to an orthopedic doctor and they wanted me to get an X-Ray. I asked how much it would cost and they looked at me like I took a dump on the floor.</quote> Yet, the oral surgeon putting a titanium screw into my head was able to give me a specific number right up front, at the initial consultation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 10/03/18 6:00:51 PM #22:	@SageHarpuia posted... Sure but it doesn't have to come from big daddy government. I thought you wanted Big Health Care paid for by the Government, taken out of our taxes? --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:909904901] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>@SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>Sure but it doesn't have to come from big daddy government.</quote>I thought you wanted Big Health Care paid for by the Government, taken out of our taxes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanHarenChamp 10/03/18 6:03:52 PM #23:	Questionmarktarius posted... Esrac posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Nobody apparently finds it odd that healthcare is pretty much the only service where the price is unknown until the end of the transaction. The paramedic simply didn't know. The tow-truck guy would have pressed a few buttons on a calculator and given you a number right there. No kidding. A few weeks back, I went to an orthopedic doctor and they wanted me to get an X-Ray. I asked how much it would cost and they looked at me like I took a dump on the floor. Yet, the oral surgeon putting a titanium screw into my head was able to give me a specific number right up front, at the initial consultation. oral surgeons probably deal with alot more people paying out of pocket then orthopedics, so they probably know the numbers off the top of their head. On the other hand no one is getting an orthopedic surgery without insurance unless its an emergency. --- literally the pacers <cite>DanHarenChamp posted [p:909905029] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody apparently finds it odd that healthcare is pretty much the only service where the price is unknown until the end of the transaction. The paramedic simply didn't know. The tow-truck guy would have pressed a few buttons on a calculator and given you a number right there.</quote> No kidding. A few weeks back, I went to an orthopedic doctor and they wanted me to get an X-Ray. I asked how much it would cost and they looked at me like I took a dump on the floor.</quote> Yet, the oral surgeon putting a titanium screw into my head was able to give me a specific number right up front, at the initial consultation.</quote> oral surgeons probably deal with alot more people paying out of pocket then orthopedics, so they probably know the numbers off the top of their head. On the other hand no one is getting an orthopedic surgery without insurance unless its an emergency.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 10/03/18 6:06:15 PM #24:	Doctors don't know how much things cost. I guess ones that do specific procedures might, but for everyone else there's so much random bullshit behind the scenes (insurance discount deals, middlemen, facility fees, etc). Doctors mostly just want to make the best evidence-based medical decision for the situation. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:909905156] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote>Doctors don't know how much things cost. I guess ones that do specific procedures might, but for everyone else there's so much random bullshit behind the scenes (insurance discount deals, middlemen, facility fees, etc). Doctors mostly just want to make the best evidence-based medical decision for the situation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 10/03/18 6:10:03 PM #25:	@Coffeebeanz posted... Doctors don't know how much things cost. I guess ones that do specific procedures might, but for everyone else there's so much random bullshit behind the scenes (insurance discount deals, middlemen, facility fees, etc). Doctors mostly just want to make the best evidence-based medical decision for the situation. So how many "Misc Fees" are there outside of the Doctor & Corresponding Staff salaries? --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:909905362] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>@Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Doctors don't know how much things cost. I guess ones that do specific procedures might, but for everyone else there's so much random bullshit behind the scenes (insurance discount deals, middlemen, facility fees, etc). Doctors mostly just want to make the best evidence-based medical decision for the situation.</quote>So how many "Misc Fees" are there outside of the Doctor & Corresponding Staff salaries?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/03/18 6:10:23 PM #26:	DanHarenChamp posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Esrac posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Nobody apparently finds it odd that healthcare is pretty much the only service where the price is unknown until the end of the transaction. The paramedic simply didn't know. The tow-truck guy would have pressed a few buttons on a calculator and given you a number right there. No kidding. A few weeks back, I went to an orthopedic doctor and they wanted me to get an X-Ray. I asked how much it would cost and they looked at me like I took a dump on the floor. Yet, the oral surgeon putting a titanium screw into my head was able to give me a specific number right up front, at the initial consultation. oral surgeons probably deal with alot more people paying out of pocket then orthopedics, so they probably know the numbers off the top of their head. On the other hand no one is getting an orthopedic surgery without insurance unless its an emergency. And that's the problem. A replacement knee may cost $10000, but insurance only pays $5000, and medicare only pays $3000. Because everyone freaks the hell out with "but I have insurance!!" when getting the bill for the remaining $5000, the initial charge is now $25000, under the expectation of getting $6000 from medicare, $9000 from private insurance, writing off anyone who goes to collections, and making up the rest by "negotiating" the balance down to $2000 or so from the actual patient. It should be $10000, from the very start, regardless of who's actually paying the bill. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:909905386] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>DanHarenChamp posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody apparently finds it odd that healthcare is pretty much the only service where the price is unknown until the end of the transaction. The paramedic simply didn't know. The tow-truck guy would have pressed a few buttons on a calculator and given you a number right there.</quote> No kidding. A few weeks back, I went to an orthopedic doctor and they wanted me to get an X-Ray. I asked how much it would cost and they looked at me like I took a dump on the floor.</quote> Yet, the oral surgeon putting a titanium screw into my head was able to give me a specific number right up front, at the initial consultation.</quote> oral surgeons probably deal with alot more people paying out of pocket then orthopedics, so they probably know the numbers off the top of their head. On the other hand no one is getting an orthopedic surgery without insurance unless its an emergency.</quote> And that's the problem. A replacement knee may cost $10000, but insurance only pays $5000, and medicare only pays $3000. Because everyone freaks the hell out with "but I have insurance!!" when getting the bill for the remaining $5000, the initial charge is now $25000, under the expectation of getting $6000 from medicare, $9000 from private insurance, writing off anyone who goes to collections, and making up the rest by "negotiating" the balance down to $2000 or so from the actual patient. It should be $10000, from the very start, regardless of who's actually paying the bill.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 10/03/18 6:11:20 PM #27:	Questionmarktarius posted... Esrac posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Nobody apparently finds it odd that healthcare is pretty much the only service where the price is unknown until the end of the transaction. The paramedic simply didn't know. The tow-truck guy would have pressed a few buttons on a calculator and given you a number right there. No kidding. A few weeks back, I went to an orthopedic doctor and they wanted me to get an X-Ray. I asked how much it would cost and they looked at me like I took a dump on the floor. Yet, the oral surgeon putting a titanium screw into my head was able to give me a specific number right up front, at the initial consultation. When I asked, the nurses had to go and find out. It took more than 20 minutes for them to come back with a price. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:909905423] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody apparently finds it odd that healthcare is pretty much the only service where the price is unknown until the end of the transaction. The paramedic simply didn't know. The tow-truck guy would have pressed a few buttons on a calculator and given you a number right there.</quote> No kidding. A few weeks back, I went to an orthopedic doctor and they wanted me to get an X-Ray. I asked how much it would cost and they looked at me like I took a dump on the floor.</quote> Yet, the oral surgeon putting a titanium screw into my head was able to give me a specific number right up front, at the initial consultation.</quote> When I asked, the nurses had to go and find out. It took more than 20 minutes for them to come back with a price.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 10/03/18 6:13:04 PM #28:	KamenRiderBlade posted... @Coffeebeanz posted... Doctors don't know how much things cost. I guess ones that do specific procedures might, but for everyone else there's so much random bullshit behind the scenes (insurance discount deals, middlemen, facility fees, etc). Doctors mostly just want to make the best evidence-based medical decision for the situation. So how many "Misc Fees" are there outside of the Doctor & Corresponding Staff salaries? I know my specific hospitalist fee is anywhere from $75 to $145 per patient per day. Everything else is facility, medications, nursing, etc. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:909905517] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Doctors don't know how much things cost. I guess ones that do specific procedures might, but for everyone else there's so much random bullshit behind the scenes (insurance discount deals, middlemen, facility fees, etc). Doctors mostly just want to make the best evidence-based medical decision for the situation.</quote>So how many "Misc Fees" are there outside of the Doctor & Corresponding Staff salaries?</quote> I know my specific hospitalist fee is anywhere from $75 to $145 per patient per day. Everything else is facility, medications, nursing, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 10/03/18 6:17:15 PM #29:	Plus, a relatively large portion of patients are uninsured and don't pay their medical bills, so the cost is distributed to the ones that do pay, so you never really know how much a stay will be. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:909905730] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote>Plus, a relatively large portion of patients are uninsured and don't pay their medical bills, so the cost is distributed to the ones that do pay, so you never really know how much a stay will be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kinetika_ 10/03/18 6:21:49 PM #30:	I have insurance but I still have to pay out the ass, reason I'm cancelling. I'd pay the same amount, but I'd save $300 a month. --- PSN: PurifyNothing <cite>kinetika_ posted [p:909905987] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote>I have insurance but I still have to pay out the ass, reason I'm cancelling. I'd pay the same amount, but I'd save $300 a month.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 10/03/18 6:23:36 PM #32:	DanHarenChamp posted... For all the people complaining about why this person doesnt have health insurance, despite having health insurance it may still cost thousands of dollars in deductibles and out of pocket expenses. And some people just can't afford that. I have good insurance, but I fear the same thing, what if I randomly have an appendicitis or cholecystitis and need some urgent surgery and end up getting hospitalized for a few days.....it'll cost me alot of money that I don't have at the moment. Boom, there it is. For all you "just pay out of your own pocket" people... how delusional are you to think that the average person could ever afford to do that? Opposition to universal health care is morally wrong and heartless. If you support our current system, you are objectively a bad person. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:909906087] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>DanHarenChamp posted...</cite> <quote>For all the people complaining about why this person doesnt have health insurance, despite having health insurance it may still cost thousands of dollars in deductibles and out of pocket expenses. And some people just can't afford that. I have good insurance, but I fear the same thing, what if I randomly have an appendicitis or cholecystitis and need some urgent surgery and end up getting hospitalized for a few days.....it'll cost me alot of money that I don't have at the moment.</quote> Boom, there it is. For all you "just pay out of your own pocket" people... how delusional are you to think that the average person could ever afford to do that? Opposition to universal health care is morally wrong and heartless. If you support our current system, you are objectively a bad person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EzeDoesIt 10/03/18 6:24:05 PM #33:	My friend was once dying on the street, like having a heart attack, and managed to gasp out Dont call 911. --- What the *** does MMF topic mean?* -Azalea9X <cite>EzeDoesIt posted [p:909906116] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote>My friend was once dying on the street, like having a heart attack, and managed to gasp out Dont call 911.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EzeDoesIt 10/03/18 6:25:47 PM #35:	fenderbender321 posted... _Rinku_ posted... If you support our current system, you are objectively a bad person. These kinds of statements, regardless of which side they're direct at, are really terrible. So supporters of the Spanish Inquisition, what about them? --- What the *** does MMF topic mean?* -Azalea9X <cite>EzeDoesIt posted [p:909906202] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>If you support our current system, you are objectively a bad person.</quote> These kinds of statements, regardless of which side they're direct at, are really terrible.</quote> So supporters of the Spanish Inquisition, what about them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 10/03/18 6:26:04 PM #36:	fenderbender321 posted... _Rinku_ posted... If you support our current system, you are objectively a bad person. These kinds of statements, regardless of which side they're direct at, are really terrible. No, it's the truth. If you support a system that kills people for lack of money, you're a bad person. You also have espoused that sweatshops are good for some countries, so I know not to take your opinion seriously. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:909906218] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>If you support our current system, you are objectively a bad person.</quote> These kinds of statements, regardless of which side they're direct at, are really terrible.</quote> No, it's the truth. If you support a system that kills people for lack of money, you're a bad person. You also have espoused that sweatshops are good for some countries, so I know not to take your opinion seriously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 10/03/18 6:30:24 PM #39:	fenderbender321 posted... _Rinku_ posted... fenderbender321 posted... _Rinku_ posted... If you support our current system, you are objectively a bad person. These kinds of statements, regardless of which side they're direct at, are really terrible. No, it's the truth. If you support a system that kills people for lack of money, you're a bad person. You also have espoused that sweatshops are good for some countries, so I know not to take your opinion seriously. Well it sounds like you're deeply rooted in your beliefs. I won't bother trying to change your mind. I'm deeply rooted in my belief that no one should die due to lack of access to healthcare, yes. It speaks volumes about you that you oppose that. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:909906458] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>If you support our current system, you are objectively a bad person.</quote> These kinds of statements, regardless of which side they're direct at, are really terrible.</quote> No, it's the truth. If you support a system that kills people for lack of money, you're a bad person. You also have espoused that sweatshops are good for some countries, so I know not to take your opinion seriously.</quote> Well it sounds like you're deeply rooted in your beliefs. I won't bother trying to change your mind.</quote> I'm deeply rooted in my belief that no one should die due to lack of access to healthcare, yes. It speaks volumes about you that you oppose that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DavidWong 10/03/18 6:44:54 PM #40:	i'm so glad i don't live in america --- COOK WITH A GEORGE FOREMAN GRILL JUST TO DRINK OUT THE DRIP TRAY <cite>DavidWong posted [p:909907260] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote>i'm so glad i don't live in america</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 10/03/18 7:05:21 PM #41:	DavidWong posted... i'm so glad i don't live in america This. <cite>knutjob posted [p:909908404] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>DavidWong posted...</cite> <quote>i'm so glad i don't live in america</quote> This.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/03/18 7:08:37 PM #42:	_Rinku_ posted... I'm deeply rooted in my belief that no one should die due to lack of access to healthcare, yes. Which charity hospital are you regularly donating to, then? I may want to pitch in. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:909908583] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>I'm deeply rooted in my belief that no one should die due to lack of access to healthcare, yes.</quote> Which charity hospital are you regularly donating to, then? I may want to pitch in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 10/03/18 7:16:40 PM #43:	Questionmarktarius posted... _Rinku_ posted... I'm deeply rooted in my belief that no one should die due to lack of access to healthcare, yes. Which charity hospital are you regularly donating to, then? I may want to pitch in. Nice deflection there, chap. Don't be heartless; support universal healthcare. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:909909012] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>I'm deeply rooted in my belief that no one should die due to lack of access to healthcare, yes.</quote> Which charity hospital are you regularly donating to, then? I may want to pitch in.</quote> Nice deflection there, chap. Don't be heartless; support universal healthcare.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/03/18 7:18:07 PM #44:	_Rinku_ posted... Questionmarktarius posted... _Rinku_ posted... I'm deeply rooted in my belief that no one should die due to lack of access to healthcare, yes. Which charity hospital are you regularly donating to, then? I may want to pitch in. Nice deflection there, chap. Don't be heartless; support universal healthcare. Will you, or will you demand someone else do it? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:909909089] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>I'm deeply rooted in my belief that no one should die due to lack of access to healthcare, yes.</quote> Which charity hospital are you regularly donating to, then? I may want to pitch in.</quote> Nice deflection there, chap. Don't be heartless; support universal healthcare.</quote> Will you, or will you demand someone else do it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 10/03/18 7:19:01 PM #45:	Questionmarktarius posted... _Rinku_ posted... Questionmarktarius posted... _Rinku_ posted... I'm deeply rooted in my belief that no one should die due to lack of access to healthcare, yes. Which charity hospital are you regularly donating to, then? I may want to pitch in. Nice deflection there, chap. Don't be heartless; support universal healthcare. Will you, or will you demand someone else do it? Do what? Support universal healthcare? I'll gladly pay more in taxes so someone doesn't die. I'm not a heartless monster, after all. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:909909131] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>I'm deeply rooted in my belief that no one should die due to lack of access to healthcare, yes.</quote> Which charity hospital are you regularly donating to, then? I may want to pitch in.</quote> Nice deflection there, chap. Don't be heartless; support universal healthcare.</quote> Will you, or will you demand someone else do it?</quote> Do what? Support universal healthcare? I'll gladly pay more in taxes so someone doesn't die. I'm not a heartless monster, after all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/03/18 7:21:10 PM #46:	_Rinku_ posted... Questionmarktarius posted... _Rinku_ posted... Questionmarktarius posted... _Rinku_ posted... I'm deeply rooted in my belief that no one should die due to lack of access to healthcare, yes. Which charity hospital are you regularly donating to, then? I may want to pitch in. Nice deflection there, chap. Don't be heartless; support universal healthcare. Will you, or will you demand someone else do it? Do what? Support universal healthcare? I'll gladly pay more in taxes so someone doesn't die. I'm not a heartless monster, after all. $10348 more in taxes? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:909909250] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>I'm deeply rooted in my belief that no one should die due to lack of access to healthcare, yes.</quote> Which charity hospital are you regularly donating to, then? I may want to pitch in.</quote> Nice deflection there, chap. Don't be heartless; support universal healthcare.</quote> Will you, or will you demand someone else do it?</quote> Do what? Support universal healthcare? I'll gladly pay more in taxes so someone doesn't die. I'm not a heartless monster, after all.</quote> $10348 more in taxes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 10/03/18 7:22:05 PM #47:	He doesn't even pay taxes now. He's jobless --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:909909299] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote>He doesn't even pay taxes now. He's jobless</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BalisticWarri0r 10/03/18 7:23:36 PM #48:	Yall should go visit the VA and see how good the government funded hospitals are <cite>BalisticWarri0r posted [p:909909380] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote>Yall should go visit the VA and see how good the government funded hospitals are</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 10/03/18 7:23:52 PM #49:	Questionmarktarius posted... _Rinku_ posted... Questionmarktarius posted... _Rinku_ posted... Questionmarktarius posted... _Rinku_ posted... I'm deeply rooted in my belief that no one should die due to lack of access to healthcare, yes. Which charity hospital are you regularly donating to, then? I may want to pitch in. Nice deflection there, chap. Don't be heartless; support universal healthcare. Will you, or will you demand someone else do it? Do what? Support universal healthcare? I'll gladly pay more in taxes so someone doesn't die. I'm not a heartless monster, after all. $10348 more in taxes? You got multiple, reliable sources on that number? <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:909909396] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>I'm deeply rooted in my belief that no one should die due to lack of access to healthcare, yes.</quote> Which charity hospital are you regularly donating to, then? I may want to pitch in.</quote> Nice deflection there, chap. Don't be heartless; support universal healthcare.</quote> Will you, or will you demand someone else do it?</quote> Do what? Support universal healthcare? I'll gladly pay more in taxes so someone doesn't die. I'm not a heartless monster, after all.</quote> $10348 more in taxes?</quote> You got multiple, reliable sources on that number?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/03/18 7:26:44 PM #50:	_Rinku_ posted... Questionmarktarius posted... _Rinku_ posted... Questionmarktarius posted... _Rinku_ posted... Questionmarktarius posted... _Rinku_ posted... I'm deeply rooted in my belief that no one should die due to lack of access to healthcare, yes. Which charity hospital are you regularly donating to, then? I may want to pitch in. Nice deflection there, chap. Don't be heartless; support universal healthcare. Will you, or will you demand someone else do it? Do what? Support universal healthcare? I'll gladly pay more in taxes so someone doesn't die. I'm not a heartless monster, after all. $10348 more in taxes? You got multiple, reliable sources on that number? https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Statistics-Trends-and-Reports/NationalHealthExpendData/NationalHealthAccountsHistorical.html Any other source just quotes that one. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:909909540] in Why we nee... [t:77064503]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>I'm deeply rooted in my belief that no one should die due to lack of access to healthcare, yes.</quote> Which charity hospital are you regularly donating to, then? I may want to pitch in.</quote> Nice deflection there, chap. Don't be heartless; support universal healthcare.</quote> Will you, or will you demand someone else do it?</quote> Do what? Support universal healthcare? I'll gladly pay more in taxes so someone doesn't die. I'm not a heartless monster, after all.</quote> $10348 more in taxes?</quote> You got multiple, reliable sources on that number?</quote> https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Statistics-Trends-and-Reports/NationalHealthExpendData/NationalHealthAccountsHistorical.html Any other source just quotes that one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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