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FLOUR
09/21/18 3:06:45 PM
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It's one thing to be deplatformed, but now the guy won't be able to buy anything on ebay. What's the point of a payment service entering the censorship business?

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09/21/18 3:07:35 PM
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The slippery slope that will allow blockchain technology to succeed.
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Tmaster148
09/21/18 3:08:04 PM
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Maybe he shouldn't call people who had their children killed crisis actors.
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CantKeepMeDown
09/21/18 3:08:06 PM
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Did they ban Alex Jones the citizen or his corporate account?
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lifeamovie
09/21/18 3:08:08 PM
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he really uncovered something deep imo

and now they are trying their best to erase him
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Hexenherz
09/21/18 3:09:57 PM
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FLOUR posted...
It's one thing to be deplatformed, but now the guy won't be able to buy anything on ebay. What's the point of a payment service entering the censorship business?

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Er, are they banning his personal account or are they going to stop letting people buy his stuff on his site using their service?

Because the latter goes far beyond just "not letting him buy stuff on eBay" >_>
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Flockaveli
09/21/18 3:13:55 PM
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Alex Jones Coin the new crypto currency of the alt right.
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happibivouac
09/21/18 3:18:11 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Did he violate their terms of use?

It's just the trendy thing to do.
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Space_Man
09/21/18 3:19:49 PM
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Maybe the IRS will ban him next and he won't have to pay taxes anymore

Hmm... that could be a good plan...
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FLOUR
09/21/18 3:20:57 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Did he violate their terms of use?


He's banned for spreading "false information". I still don't get how that's any of their business.

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Space_Man
09/21/18 3:21:54 PM
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FLOUR posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Did he violate their terms of use?


He's banned for spreading "false information". I still don't get how that's any of their business.

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SageHarpuia
09/21/18 3:22:09 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Did he violate their terms of use?


Might have had something to do with the trans porn he was busted with :thinking:
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Devimon
09/21/18 3:24:30 PM
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Goats posted...
Is there anywhere on the internet that hasn't banned Alex yet ekans?

Gamefaqs.gamespot.com can become Alex Jones's safe haven
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Space_Man
09/21/18 3:24:52 PM
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Goats posted...
Is there anywhere on the internet that hasn't banned Alex yet ekans?

His private email server

Or was that someone else?
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mario2000
09/21/18 3:25:09 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Maybe he shouldn't call people who had their children killed crisis actors.

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09/21/18 3:26:57 PM
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Coffeebeanz
09/21/18 3:28:17 PM
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Alex Jones is a colossal dumbass, but having his fans verbally abuse shooting victim families is unforgivable.
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Learning
09/21/18 3:31:04 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Alex Jones is a colossal dumbass, but having his fans verbally abuse shooting victim families is unforgivable.


Why did you use "but" like those are two conflicting points
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ImTheMacheteGuy
09/21/18 3:31:39 PM
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Devimon posted...
Goats posted...
Is there anywhere on the internet that hasn't banned Alex yet ekans?

Gamefaqs.gamespot.com can become Alex Jones's safe haven


I would get him KOS'd really quickly.
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Pogo_Marimo
09/21/18 3:31:52 PM
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You guys don't have a problem with Gays being refused bakery service but Paypal can't refuse a violent conspiracy theorist who advocates assaulting, killing, and harassing people? What the fuck is wrong with you?
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Coffeebeanz
09/21/18 3:32:13 PM
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Learning posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Alex Jones is a colossal dumbass, but having his fans verbally abuse shooting victim families is unforgivable.


Why did you use "but" like those are two conflicting points


Being a dumbass doesn't mean you should be silenced.

Alex Jones is more than just a dumbass.
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Coffeebeanz
09/21/18 3:32:49 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
You guys don't have a problem with Gays being refused bakery service but Paypal can't refuse a violent conspiracy theorist who advocates assaulting, killing, and harassing people? What the fuck is wrong with you?


Conservatives? Hypocrites? No way.
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CantKeepMeDown
09/21/18 3:33:28 PM
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Learning posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Alex Jones is a colossal dumbass, but having his fans verbally abuse shooting victim families is unforgivable.


Why did you use "but" like those are two conflicting points

Lol, it's like saying Trump is a colossal dumbass but he thinks a wall should be built across the Sahara
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Devimon
09/21/18 3:35:41 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Devimon posted...
Goats posted...
Is there anywhere on the internet that hasn't banned Alex yet ekans?

Gamefaqs.gamespot.com can become Alex Jones's safe haven


I would get him KOS'd really quickly.

Don't, there's a lot of users that would be upset if you did that
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LightHawKnight
09/21/18 3:42:41 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
FLOUR posted...
It's one thing to be deplatformed, but now the guy won't be able to buy anything on ebay. What's the point of a payment service entering the censorship business?

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Er, are they banning his personal account or are they going to stop letting people buy his stuff on his site using their service?

Because the latter goes far beyond just "not letting him buy stuff on eBay" >_>


Looks like the latter. They gave him 10 days to find another payment service for his site.
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_BIueMonk
09/21/18 3:44:52 PM
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3 pages and no source

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LightHawKnight
09/21/18 3:47:06 PM
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_BIueMonk posted...
3 pages and no source

mods delete this topic.


There are people who have it set to less than 50 posts per page? Anyways a quick google works wonders.
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FLUFFYGERM
09/21/18 10:59:52 PM
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And leftists everywhere will weep tears of joy, not realizing that this is just the precedent that will crush everyone in the near future.
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PG_Era
09/21/18 11:07:22 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
And leftists everywhere will weep tears of joy, not realizing that this is just the precedent that will crush everyone in the near future.


I'm not a left and glad he is being wiped away. =)
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Tmaster148
09/21/18 11:10:00 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
And leftists everywhere will weep tears of joy, not realizing that this is just the precedent that will crush everyone in the near future.


Private companies don't have to provide services to people if they don't want to.
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FLUFFYGERM
09/21/18 11:12:10 PM
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PG_Era posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
And leftists everywhere will weep tears of joy, not realizing that this is just the precedent that will crush everyone in the near future.


I'm not a left and glad he is being wiped away. =)


Phew lad I'm going to enjoy watching you squirm when the system shuts down everything =)
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HashtagTartarus
09/22/18 12:25:58 AM
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It's absurd when payment processing companies strong-arm their merchants in to adhering to a political or moral position. Infrastructure doesn't get to object to the disposition of those who use it. Roads can't pop the tires of drivers just because the driver thinks that men should be able to get married to dogs. Come off of your high horse, Paypal; you're the fucking help.
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Tmaster148
09/22/18 12:26:52 AM
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HashtagTartarus posted...
It's absurd when payment processing companies strong-arm their merchants in to adhering to a political or moral position. Infrastructure doesn't get to object to the disposition of those who use it. Roads can't pop the tires of drivers just because the driver thinks that men should be able to get married to dogs. Come off of your high horse, Paypal; you're the fucking help.


Nothing is stopping Alex from using Credit Cards as a payment source on his site. Or him using Credit Cards to buy things.
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FLUFFYGERM
09/22/18 12:27:31 AM
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HashtagTartarus posted...
Roads can't pop the tires of drivers just because the driver thinks that men should be able to get married to dogs.


This might be a surprise to you, but leftists (and rightists) both wish they could pop the tires of drivers they disagree with.
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HashtagTartarus
09/22/18 12:27:59 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
HashtagTartarus posted...
It's absurd when payment processing companies strong-arm their merchants in to adhering to a political or moral position. Infrastructure doesn't get to object to the disposition of those who use it. Roads can't pop the tires of drivers just because the driver thinks that men should be able to get married to dogs. Come off of your high horse, Paypal; you're the fucking help.


Nothing is stopping Alex from using Credit Cards as a payment source on his site. Or him using Credit Cards to buy things.


How do you think credit cards work?
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Tmaster148
09/22/18 12:30:52 AM
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HashtagTartarus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
HashtagTartarus posted...
It's absurd when payment processing companies strong-arm their merchants in to adhering to a political or moral position. Infrastructure doesn't get to object to the disposition of those who use it. Roads can't pop the tires of drivers just because the driver thinks that men should be able to get married to dogs. Come off of your high horse, Paypal; you're the fucking help.


Nothing is stopping Alex from using Credit Cards as a payment source on his site. Or him using Credit Cards to buy things.


How do you think credit cards work?


That they don't require using PayPal? I've never had a PayPal account and I get by fine using my credit card to purchase things online.
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Kombucha
09/22/18 12:33:17 AM
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0 surprise.

paypal also stopped wikileaks from using them.
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HashtagTartarus
09/22/18 12:33:54 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
HashtagTartarus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
HashtagTartarus posted...
It's absurd when payment processing companies strong-arm their merchants in to adhering to a political or moral position. Infrastructure doesn't get to object to the disposition of those who use it. Roads can't pop the tires of drivers just because the driver thinks that men should be able to get married to dogs. Come off of your high horse, Paypal; you're the fucking help.


Nothing is stopping Alex from using Credit Cards as a payment source on his site. Or him using Credit Cards to buy things.


How do you think credit cards work?


That they don't require using PayPal? I've never had a PayPal account and I get by fine using my credit card to purchase things online.


Your payments are still going through a large payment processor who can dictate what content the website may host. IIRC, Patreon changed its policy on what content is allowed due to pressure from their payment processor. It's seriously affected some of my favorite content creators.
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sktgamer_13dude
09/22/18 12:35:02 AM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
PG_Era posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
And leftists everywhere will weep tears of joy, not realizing that this is just the precedent that will crush everyone in the near future.


I'm not a left and glad he is being wiped away. =)


Phew lad I'm going to enjoy watching you squirm when the system shuts down everything =)

Ok Chicken Little.
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Vyrulisse
09/22/18 12:35:26 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
And leftists everywhere will weep tears of joy, not realizing that this is just the precedent that will crush everyone in the near future.


Private companies don't have to provide services to people if they don't want to.

This excuse misses the point though. The fact that private companies have the power to basically delete someone openly and without fear nowadays is a scary prospect for anyone. Or it should be but this stuff usually starts with someone or something unpopular so it becomes more palatable when they inevitably continue to expand their reach.
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Tmaster148
09/22/18 12:35:54 AM
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HashtagTartarus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
HashtagTartarus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
HashtagTartarus posted...
It's absurd when payment processing companies strong-arm their merchants in to adhering to a political or moral position. Infrastructure doesn't get to object to the disposition of those who use it. Roads can't pop the tires of drivers just because the driver thinks that men should be able to get married to dogs. Come off of your high horse, Paypal; you're the fucking help.


Nothing is stopping Alex from using Credit Cards as a payment source on his site. Or him using Credit Cards to buy things.


How do you think credit cards work?


That they don't require using PayPal? I've never had a PayPal account and I get by fine using my credit card to purchase things online.


Your payments are still going through a large payment processor who can dictate what content the website may host. IIRC, Patreon changed its policy on what content is allowed due to pressure from their payment processor. It's seriously affected some of my favorite content creators.


And PayPal isn't the only payment processor he can add to his site. And even if it was, nothing is stopping him from building his own.
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spudger
09/22/18 12:36:36 AM
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Wasnt Elon Musk one of the guys behind Paypal?

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Tmaster148
09/22/18 12:36:46 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
And leftists everywhere will weep tears of joy, not realizing that this is just the precedent that will crush everyone in the near future.


Private companies don't have to provide services to people if they don't want to.

This excuse misses the point though. The fact that private companies have the power to basically delete someone openly and without fear nowadays is a scary prospect for anyone. Or it should be but this stuff usually starts with someone or something unpopular so it becomes more palatable when they inevitably continue to expand their reach.


That's the free market. Sounds like you want some regulations to fix that problem which according to Proudclad would be communism.
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FLUFFYGERM
09/22/18 12:38:31 AM
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Why does anyone still respond to Tmaster148?
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HashtagTartarus
09/22/18 12:38:31 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
HashtagTartarus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
HashtagTartarus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
HashtagTartarus posted...
It's absurd when payment processing companies strong-arm their merchants in to adhering to a political or moral position. Infrastructure doesn't get to object to the disposition of those who use it. Roads can't pop the tires of drivers just because the driver thinks that men should be able to get married to dogs. Come off of your high horse, Paypal; you're the fucking help.


Nothing is stopping Alex from using Credit Cards as a payment source on his site. Or him using Credit Cards to buy things.


How do you think credit cards work?


That they don't require using PayPal? I've never had a PayPal account and I get by fine using my credit card to purchase things online.


Your payments are still going through a large payment processor who can dictate what content the website may host. IIRC, Patreon changed its policy on what content is allowed due to pressure from their payment processor. It's seriously affected some of my favorite content creators.


And PayPal isn't the only payment processor he can add to his site. And even if it was, nothing is stopping him from building his own.


1. You need to hire a lot of programmers and make damn sure you get the security right.
2. You need to establish relationships with banks and card brands, which will be hard considering he's Alex fucking Jones.
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Tmaster148
09/22/18 12:38:56 AM
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HashtagTartarus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
HashtagTartarus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
HashtagTartarus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
HashtagTartarus posted...
It's absurd when payment processing companies strong-arm their merchants in to adhering to a political or moral position. Infrastructure doesn't get to object to the disposition of those who use it. Roads can't pop the tires of drivers just because the driver thinks that men should be able to get married to dogs. Come off of your high horse, Paypal; you're the fucking help.


Nothing is stopping Alex from using Credit Cards as a payment source on his site. Or him using Credit Cards to buy things.


How do you think credit cards work?


That they don't require using PayPal? I've never had a PayPal account and I get by fine using my credit card to purchase things online.


Your payments are still going through a large payment processor who can dictate what content the website may host. IIRC, Patreon changed its policy on what content is allowed due to pressure from their payment processor. It's seriously affected some of my favorite content creators.


And PayPal isn't the only payment processor he can add to his site. And even if it was, nothing is stopping him from building his own.


1. You need to hire a lot of programmers and make damn sure you get the security right.
2. You need to establish relationships with banks and card brands, which will be hard considering he's Alex fucking Jones.


Well too bad for him then. Free market.
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