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Garioshi
08/18/18 4:24:36 PM
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Olga and Strut E aside, it hasn't been that bad so far. Fatman, however, is the worst thing to ever exist. Dude runs as far away as he can while you're hunting him down, but runs straight into you when you're diffusing bombs and can't defend yourself. Rapid-fire shooting with the SOCOM is also very inconsistent, and Fatman likes to run into you while you're shooting him.
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ANewLeaf
08/18/18 4:27:04 PM
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Do you have a plan for the button mashing scene?
Good luck, though. I think with Fortune you can't stop moving, it's pretty crazy form what I've seen.
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Garioshi
08/18/18 4:31:03 PM
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never mind beat him lol
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Garioshi
08/18/18 4:33:35 PM
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ANewLeaf posted...
Do you have a plan for the button mashing scene?

I've got a good technique up my sleeve (Mario Party has trained me well), and I know you can move the camera to the left/right to halve the rate at which the meter drains.
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luigi13579
08/18/18 4:37:17 PM
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I'm not sure I'd be able to do that without significant trouble nowadays.

Also, I came across a cool vid recently with Vamp tips:

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I like how he smacks him with the Nikita. Also hitting him with grenades in the water and shooting the lights.
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Garioshi
08/18/18 4:49:04 PM
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Can someone tell me why guards can magically sense when you lower your gun when you hold them up?
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DocileOrangeCup
08/18/18 5:02:17 PM
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Garioshi
08/18/18 5:11:21 PM
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yo what the fuck why are there 4 billion guards around ames
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Garioshi
08/18/18 5:13:00 PM
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yo why can i not just draw my gun instead of automatically holding up guards, which is an automatic game over here for some stupid reason
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Garioshi
08/19/18 12:41:44 PM
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wtf this harrier fight is such bullshit
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Garioshi
08/19/18 1:40:09 PM
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The camera angles on this fight are honestly the worst.
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Garioshi
08/19/18 1:56:39 PM
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That Harrier fight was the single worst boss fight I've ever had the displeasure of playing.
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AurochSpirit
08/19/18 2:00:51 PM
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Good luck against the Metal Gear Rays!
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Reis
08/19/18 2:22:28 PM
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the ray fight isn't THAT bad, you just have to get into the rhythm of it but once you do its essentially on autopilot

everything leading up to it is much harder
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Garioshi
08/19/18 2:55:56 PM
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Vamp's Olga 2.0? *deep breath*
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Smashingpmkns
08/19/18 2:59:49 PM
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Use a spoon for the torture scene tbh
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Garioshi
08/19/18 3:27:12 PM
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Vamp's knife has the most stupidly disjointed hitbox I've ever seen.
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Garioshi
08/19/18 3:30:13 PM
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I'll admit I looked up a quick kill, but I have no shame.
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Garioshi
08/19/18 4:44:35 PM
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Tested out my techinque on the first choking scene and the meter didn't drain whatsoever. I think I'm good.
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Garioshi
08/19/18 5:15:53 PM
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These Tengu, holy shit.
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Reis
08/19/18 5:16:24 PM
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Garioshi posted...
These Tengu, holy shit.

yeah that's what I'm saying lol. the arsenal gear stuff is way harder than the rays
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Garioshi
08/19/18 6:17:09 PM
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It's RAY time. Oh boy.
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Reis
08/19/18 6:25:42 PM
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protip: keep yourself moving
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Garioshi
08/19/18 6:31:30 PM
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The one thing I can't deal with is the water cannon. It's basically completely untelegraphed.
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Reis
08/19/18 6:33:58 PM
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im p. sure they start having like blueish breath before that happens but it's been a while
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Garioshi
08/19/18 6:38:05 PM
#26:


FUCK I ACCIDENTALLY HIT EXlT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Garioshi
08/19/18 7:23:20 PM
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Reis posted...
im p. sure they start having like blueish breath before that happens but it's been a while

Let me correct myself: My problem is that it still hits me, even when I'm moving. Doesn't help that the camera is too close for me to even see if they have blueish breath, though.
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Garioshi
08/19/18 7:40:20 PM
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I legit tried 10 times in a row to get the only hit I needed on a RAY's face, but every single time it either blocked it or the Stinger's lockon wouldn't get off its leg. Fucking hell.
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Garioshi
08/19/18 9:22:14 PM
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I got to the 11th one. Making progress.
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Garioshi
08/19/18 9:45:07 PM
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Got to #15 this time. Again, progress.
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Garioshi
08/19/18 10:16:15 PM
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The worst part of this fight is that I can't tell which RAY is going to jump onto the stage, so I keep getting taken by surprise and crushed completely unavoidably because of it.
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Garioshi
08/19/18 10:17:28 PM
#32:


Also, we're at the 4-hour mark for this fight. I will not sleep until I win.
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Garioshi
08/19/18 11:20:25 PM
#33:


Five. Hours.
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Garioshi
08/20/18 12:16:24 AM
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I died on number 20. I have never felt more crushed.
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Garioshi
08/20/18 12:25:20 AM
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I'm kinda demoralized, so I'm gonna take a break to cleanse my mind.
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juicebox4
08/20/18 12:27:04 AM
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I'd say just quit but you've come so damn far. I could never have the patience for this
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MutantJohn
08/20/18 12:28:35 AM
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European Extreme sucks. If you get caught, it's game over.

This applies even when you have the full stealth camo too so you can't do fun trolling stuff.
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Reis
08/20/18 12:29:27 AM
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MutantJohn posted...
European Extreme sucks. If you get caught, it's game over.

yeah but if you get an alert you pretty much want a game over anyway because you're likely not gonna survive what they send out at you
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NinjaWarrior455
08/20/18 12:31:23 AM
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The Solidus fight was a bitch on Extreme. I remember starting the fight around midnight and I didn't beat him until around 3 or 4.
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glitteringfairy
08/20/18 12:33:08 AM
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You've done well TC
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Garioshi
08/20/18 12:33:11 AM
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Reis posted...
MutantJohn posted...
European Extreme sucks. If you get caught, it's game over.

yeah but if you get an alert you pretty much want a game over anyway because you're likely not gonna survive what they send out at you

This, pretty much. I almost always killed myself when I got hit with an alert playing casually.

juicebox4 posted...
I'd say just quit but you've come so damn far. I could never have the patience for this

I didn't think I did, either, but I will not let the game beat me.
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MutantJohn
08/20/18 12:37:41 AM
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This, pretty much. I almost always killed myself when I got hit with an alert playing casually.


Nah, man.

Once you get enough dog tags, you get the perks like infinite ammo and stealth which give you the opportunity to kind of just yolo do w/e you want.
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Garioshi
08/20/18 1:01:05 AM
#43:


All right, I know I can do it, so let's do it.
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Kaiganeer
08/20/18 1:04:22 AM
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so what makes it european
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bevan306
08/20/18 1:08:35 AM
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one of my regrets in life is that I never finished it, I could not get past solidus. I remember people saying he was easy compared to the harrier and ray fights but for me it was impossible
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Garioshi
08/20/18 1:22:50 AM
#46:


I did perfectly until I got stomped by a RAY that was behind me. Great design, Kojima.
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Garioshi
08/20/18 1:26:14 AM
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I may have no choice but to stop at this point. My middle finger's getting very sore and it's painful to curl it up.
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Garioshi
08/20/18 1:30:22 AM
#48:


No worries, I will continue tomorrow. As of right now, the RAY fight alone has taken up a third of this entire playthrough. I don't know what sadistic bastard thought this was a good idea, but if I ever meet him, I will kill him with my bare hands.
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DocileOrangeCup
08/20/18 1:31:10 AM
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Garioshi
08/20/18 1:32:05 AM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
you sure you can manage that with that sore middle finger

Hopefully, sleep should fix it.
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