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Tyranthraxus
08/04/18 9:58:14 AM
#52:


This guy here sums up my feelings on the issue

https://mobile.twitter.com/True_Canuck1/status/1025590399279263744
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nemu
08/04/18 9:58:19 AM
#53:


So has she actually personally apologized for any of this? Only thing I've seen is that official statement by the Times which is a bundle of nothing unless it comes directly from her.
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NinjaWarrior455
08/04/18 9:59:15 AM
#54:


Tyranthraxus posted...
This guy here sums up my feelings on the issue

https://mobile.twitter.com/True_Canuck1/status/1025590399279263744

Basically.
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Alphamon
08/04/18 9:59:50 AM
#55:


Tyranthraxus posted...
This guy here sums up my feelings on the issue

https://mobile.twitter.com/True_Canuck1/status/1025590399279263744

agreed
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Coffeebeanz
08/04/18 10:00:55 AM
#56:


Tyranthraxus posted...
This guy here sums up my feelings on the issue

https://mobile.twitter.com/True_Canuck1/status/1025590399279263744


Really, you could just as easily say "I sympathize with people defending her, but I sense some selective defense here"
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darkjedilink
08/04/18 10:02:08 AM
#57:


Tyranthraxus posted...
This guy here sums up my feelings on the issue

https://mobile.twitter.com/True_Canuck1/status/1025590399279263744

Fair enough, but can't we apply the inverse to everyone defending her? Namely, NYT, Vox, HuffPo, CElibs, etc.? If you find her tweets acceptable, doesn't that mean your problem with "real" racism is just faux outrage?
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Coffeebeanz
08/04/18 10:04:31 AM
#59:


darkjedilink posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
This guy here sums up my feelings on the issue

https://mobile.twitter.com/True_Canuck1/status/1025590399279263744

Fair enough, but can't we apply the inverse to everyone defending her? Namely, NYT, Vox, HuffPo, CElibs, etc.? If you find her tweets acceptable, doesn't that mean your problem with "real" racism is just faux outrage?


Precisely.

If they've never come to someone's defense before, why now?

And ESPECIALLY with a person who has a textbook-load of racist tweets. Justine Sacco got crucified by Vox for a single tweet that actually was taken out of context.
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Tyranthraxus
08/04/18 10:09:04 AM
#60:


darkjedilink posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
This guy here sums up my feelings on the issue

https://mobile.twitter.com/True_Canuck1/status/1025590399279263744

Fair enough, but can't we apply the inverse to everyone defending her? Namely, NYT, Vox, HuffPo, CElibs, etc.? If you find her tweets acceptable, doesn't that mean your problem with "real" racism is just faux outrage?


I absolutely think that anyone who defends her tweets as just "countertrolling" is being a dishonest shitbag. That wasn't really the issue here.

The issue is that you have a select group of people who essentially endorse racism so long as the racism isn't directed at themselves. And when it is directed at themselves, they suddenly want to benefit from the anti racist momentum they have been fighting against.

This isn't necessarily hypocritical, you could say that it's just a guy looking out for his own best interests, but calling out the racism of only Asian/Black people is itself racist. You're applying a level of scrutinization that white people are not subjected to and against people who lack the ability to exercise their racist influence to the same extent as white people.
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SpiralDrift
08/04/18 10:13:22 AM
#61:


I'm less concerned with her and more concerned with major news organizations condoning the racism. Nothing good could come of that.
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darkjedilink
08/04/18 10:13:33 AM
#62:


Tyranthraxus posted...
The issue is that you have a select group of people who essentially endorse racism so long as the racism isn't directed at themselves. And when it is directed at themselves, they suddenly want to benefit from the anti racist momentum they have been fighting against.

No, the issue is that you seem to miss the hypocrisy of the left in general on this issue, and the NYT in particular. Either firing people for racism is right, and good, and wholesome, which it is when the left does it, so this woman should be fired with no defense from the left, or it ISN'T, and the left needs to own up to their shittiness.

This isn't necessarily hypocritical, you could say that it's just a guy looking out for his own best interests, but calling out the racism of only Asian/Black people is itself racist. You're applying a level of scrutinization that white people are not subjected to and against people who lack the ability to exercise their racist influence to the same extent as white people.

No, I'm not applying any level of scrutiny different to one group. YOU are. YOUR side made these rules, and now it's only a problem when your side is FINALLY being shown that you're just as bad.
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EnragedSlith
08/04/18 10:15:11 AM
#63:


Yeah, this woman is poison. She needs to go.
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Coffeebeanz
08/04/18 10:18:05 AM
#64:


All these media sources coming to her defense after gleefully partaking in the internet outrage mob justice movement in the past makes them look exceptionally hypocritical. Especially given the sheer volume of vile things she's written.
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The Great Muta 22
08/04/18 10:19:12 AM
#65:


darkjedilink posted...
No, the issue is that you seem to miss the hypocrisy of the left in general on this issue, and the NYT in particular. Either firing people for racism is right, and good, and wholesome, which it is when the left does it, so this woman should be fired with no defense from the left, or it ISN'T, and the left needs to own up to their shittiness.


Plenty of people "on the left" have called for her to be fired as well as called her out. The problem is it's simply never going to be good enough for you, because you've created a world in your mind where if one person who disagrees with you about one issue, it makes them an entire representation of the other side. It's fucking stupid no matter who does it. This woman should have never been hired and dismissed already.

darkjedilink posted...
No, I'm not applying any level of scrutiny different to one group. YOU are. YOUR side made these rules, and now it's only a problem when your side is FINALLY being shown that you're just as bad.


See, you're just as bad and divisive as the people you condemn. You don't actually give a shit about people being together, you like attacking and shitting on "the other side" because of your own issues and wanting to emulate Trump. It's really fucking sad.
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Tyranthraxus
08/04/18 10:22:57 AM
#66:


darkjedilink posted...
No, the issue is that you seem to miss the hypocrisy of the left in general on this issue, and the NYT in particular. Either firing people for racism is right, and good, and wholesome, which it is when the left does it, so this woman should be fired with no defense from the left, or it ISN'T, and the left needs to own up to their shittiness.

Who is Kathy Griffin?

darkjedilink posted...
No, I'm not applying any level of scrutiny different to one group. YOU are. YOUR side made these rules, and now it's only a problem when your side is FINALLY being shown that you're just as bad.

No that's exactly what you are doing and that's why it's so fucking hard to have an honest conversation about politics on the internet. People like you come in and fucking turn whatever discussion people were trying to have into Red vs Blue.
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darkjedilink
08/04/18 10:23:46 AM
#67:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
No, the issue is that you seem to miss the hypocrisy of the left in general on this issue, and the NYT in particular. Either firing people for racism is right, and good, and wholesome, which it is when the left does it, so this woman should be fired with no defense from the left, or it ISN'T, and the left needs to own up to their shittiness.


Plenty of people "on the left" have called for her to be fired as well as called her out. The problem is it's simply never going to be good enough for you, because you've created a world in your mind where if one person who disagrees with you about one issue, it makes them an entire representation of the other side. It's fucking stupid no matter who does it. This woman should have never been hired and dismissed already.

darkjedilink posted...
No, I'm not applying any level of scrutiny different to one group. YOU are. YOUR side made these rules, and now it's only a problem when your side is FINALLY being shown that you're just as bad.


See, you're just as bad and divisive as the people you condemn. You don't actually give a shit about people being together, you like attacking and shitting on "the other side" because of your own issues and wanting to emulate Trump. It's really fucking sad.

Show me some leftists demanding her firing. This is the first time YOU'VE actually suggested such, instead choosing to go "lol, conservative outrage!!!"

And how does a GARY JOHNSON voter want to "emulate Trump?" Wouldn't you suggesting such stupidity be an example of what you accuse me of doing - just lumping someone with your hated group because they happen to disagree with you?
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emblem boy
08/04/18 10:24:22 AM
#68:


I'm new to this issue. Which magazines or people are the ones defending the tweets?
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darkjedilink
08/04/18 10:25:48 AM
#69:


Tyranthraxus posted...
darkjedilink posted...
No, the issue is that you seem to miss the hypocrisy of the left in general on this issue, and the NYT in particular. Either firing people for racism is right, and good, and wholesome, which it is when the left does it, so this woman should be fired with no defense from the left, or it ISN'T, and the left needs to own up to their shittiness.

Who is Kathy Griffin?

darkjedilink posted...
No, I'm not applying any level of scrutiny different to one group. YOU are. YOUR side made these rules, and now it's only a problem when your side is FINALLY being shown that you're just as bad.

No that's exactly what you are doing and that's why it's so fucking hard to have an honest conversation about politics on the internet. People like you come in and fucking turn whatever discussion people were trying to have into Red vs Blue.

Kathy Griffin was DEFENDED BY THE LEFT. And this situation IS RED VERSUS BLUE. You're in this very thread saying that nobody on the right can have a problem with the hypocrisy shown by NYT, Vox, HuffPo, etc. because it's "faux outrage." You WANT it to be fake partisanship, when your side is actually fucking doing the shitty things they're called out on.
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Rimmer_Dall
08/04/18 10:26:19 AM
#70:


emblem boy posted...
I'm new to this issue. Which magazines or people are the ones defending the tweets?

KIA has compiled a decent sized list of outlets condemning her vs outlets defending her.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/943y9h/sarah_jeong_controversy_media_coverage/
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gmanthebest
08/04/18 10:35:29 AM
#71:


Agnostic420 posted...
The biggest loser here is the dork that sat down at home and went through someones tweets to compile off of them and then post it online.

What a fuckin loser.

I'd say the biggest loser is the person tweeting a metric ton of racist shit.
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Awesome
08/04/18 10:39:38 AM
#72:


gmanthebest posted...
Agnostic420 posted...
The biggest loser here is the dork that sat down at home and went through someones tweets to compile off of them and then post it online.

What a fuckin loser.

I'd say the biggest loser is the person tweeting a metric ton of racist shit.


Yeah but some people dont live in reality so theyd rather hate on the person hating on the racist.
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The Great Muta 22
08/04/18 10:42:18 AM
#73:


darkjedilink posted...
Kathy Griffin was DEFENDED BY THE LEFT. And this situation IS RED VERSUS BLUE. You're in this very thread saying that nobody on the right can have a problem with the hypocrisy shown by NYT, Vox, HuffPo, etc. because it's "faux outrage." You WANT it to be fake partisanship, when your side is actually fucking doing the shitty things they're called out on.


See, you're making this a partisan thing when it isn't and bringing up shit like Kathy Griffin that has nothing to do with the subject at hand. And hey, if you want to be a divisive ass then be my guest, but just accept that instead of pretending you actually care about bringing people together. Because ultimately you don't care at all and would rather just attack those with a different political opinion. You want a culture war where everyone hates each other, which is pathetic and tells me a lot about you.

Again, what this woman said was horrible and she never should have been hired and dismissed already. Ultimately it's on NYT if they want to take the political hit for it.
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Hop103
08/04/18 10:42:56 AM
#74:


What does D&C say about what people like her have? Oh yeah ugliness of spirit.
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Rimmer_Dall
08/04/18 10:43:09 AM
#75:


Again, Nick Monroe, the guy who dug up the tweets, is a freelance journalist. The fact that he's consistently so thorough when he investigates things just means he's good at his job.
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darkjedilink
08/04/18 10:43:11 AM
#76:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
emblem boy posted...
I'm new to this issue. Which magazines or people are the ones defending the tweets?

KIA has compiled a decent sized list of outlets condemning her vs outlets defending her.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/943y9h/sarah_jeong_controversy_media_coverage/

And not a single leftist organization opposing her. The closest you get is BBC or The Hill, both of whom I consider neutral (BBC doesn't seem to have a slant in their writing at all, and The Hill seems to have as many super-left articles as super-right).

However, BBC did alter their article after Anita Sarkeesian complained that it made Jeong "look bad."
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The Great Muta 22
08/04/18 10:43:59 AM
#77:


darkjedilink posted...
Show me some leftists demanding her firing. This is the first time YOU'VE actually suggested such, instead choosing to go "lol, conservative outrage!!!"


And that's simply not true either, and I can show my posts from the day the story leaked if you want. See, you're making shit up to fit together the narrative you want to be true.
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Lordgold666
08/04/18 10:44:56 AM
#78:


gmanthebest posted...
Agnostic420 posted...
The biggest loser here is the dork that sat down at home and went through someones tweets to compile off of them and then post it online.

What a fuckin loser.

I'd say the biggest loser is the person tweeting a metric ton of racist shit.

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emblem boy
08/04/18 10:45:26 AM
#79:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
emblem boy posted...
I'm new to this issue. Which magazines or people are the ones defending the tweets?

KIA has compiled a decent sized list of outlets condemning her vs outlets defending her.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/943y9h/sarah_jeong_controversy_media_coverage/


Fuck. Those are some disappointing responses from those sites defending the tweets
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darkjedilink
08/04/18 10:46:46 AM
#80:


emblem boy posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
emblem boy posted...
I'm new to this issue. Which magazines or people are the ones defending the tweets?

KIA has compiled a decent sized list of outlets condemning her vs outlets defending her.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/943y9h/sarah_jeong_controversy_media_coverage/

Fuck. Those are some disappointing responses from those sites defending the tweets

It shouldn't be, unless you think that these organizations haven't proven to be blatantly hypocritical when it comes to matters of race literally hundreds of times before.
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epik_fail1
08/04/18 10:56:00 AM
#81:


I am pretty sure a lot of minorities are annoyed by her racism and think she should be fired. It's pretty sad that they hired that racist, it will fuel alt right idiots and they will use her bigotry against liberalism. She is exactly the reason why center-left people want to be called centrist.
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TheCyborgNinja
08/04/18 11:05:40 AM
#82:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
averagejoel posted...
ethnic cleansing of white people has never happened and will never happen. it is not a serious threat

Umm... Ever heard of Haiti?

Or WWII? The Jews were still technically white, not to mention all the Eastern Europeans and various Western Europeans that died because they were gay, etc. Then there are the massacres in former Yugoslavia... Oh, you also have Rhodesia and (currently) South Africa... There's really no excuse for that racist person to not be shamed mercilessly.
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averagejoel
08/04/18 11:12:33 AM
#83:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
averagejoel posted...
ethnic cleansing of white people has never happened and will never happen. it is not a serious threat

Umm... Ever heard of Haiti?

Or WWII? The Jews were still technically white, not to mention all the Eastern Europeans and various Western Europeans that died because they were gay, etc. Then there are the massacres in former Yugoslavia... There's really no excuse for that racist person to not be shamed mercilessly.

jews were not targeted because of the colour of their skin. neither were eastern europeans, LGBT+ people, or yugoslavians.

but you already knew that
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averagejoel
08/04/18 11:14:00 AM
#84:


FabIemaster posted...
averagejoel posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
averagejoel posted...
ethnic cleansing of white people has never happened and will never happen. it is not a serious threat

Umm... Ever heard of Haiti?

yes


Ever heard of South Africa right now?

google "colonization" and "apartheid" then come back to this topic after reading something
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darkjedilink
08/04/18 11:14:16 AM
#85:


averagejoel posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
averagejoel posted...
ethnic cleansing of white people has never happened and will never happen. it is not a serious threat

Umm... Ever heard of Haiti?

Or WWII? The Jews were still technically white, not to mention all the Eastern Europeans and various Western Europeans that died because they were gay, etc. Then there are the massacres in former Yugoslavia... There's really no excuse for that racist person to not be shamed mercilessly.

jews were not targeted because of the colour of their skin. neither were eastern europeans, LGBT+ people, or yugoslavians.

but you already knew that

So that makes it better?
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darkjedilink
08/04/18 11:14:36 AM
#86:


averagejoel posted...
FabIemaster posted...
averagejoel posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
averagejoel posted...
ethnic cleansing of white people has never happened and will never happen. it is not a serious threat

Umm... Ever heard of Haiti?

yes


Ever heard of South Africa right now?

google "colonization" and "apartheid" then come back to this topic after reading something

So that makes it better?
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Rimmer_Dall
08/04/18 11:15:47 AM
#87:


averagejoel posted...
FabIemaster posted...
averagejoel posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
averagejoel posted...
ethnic cleansing of white people has never happened and will never happen. it is not a serious threat

Umm... Ever heard of Haiti?

yes


Ever heard of South Africa right now?

google "colonization" and "apartheid" then come back to this topic after reading something

Google genocide of Khoisan, Khoikhoi and San peoples by Bantus before you try to justify genocide with "it's retribution for past crimes".
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wannabepranksta
08/04/18 11:16:35 AM
#88:


It's okay to be racist towards whites, but when you have a white boyfriend and you are racist towards whites, that's just batshit crazy.
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averagejoel
08/04/18 11:17:19 AM
#89:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
averagejoel posted...
FabIemaster posted...
averagejoel posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
averagejoel posted...
ethnic cleansing of white people has never happened and will never happen. it is not a serious threat

Umm... Ever heard of Haiti?

yes


Ever heard of South Africa right now?

google "colonization" and "apartheid" then come back to this topic after reading something

Google genocide of Khoisan, Khoikhoi and San peoples by Bantus before you try to justify genocide with "it's retribution for past crimes".

genocide is not what's happening in South Africa now, and it's disingenuous and lazy to pretend otherwise
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TheCyborgNinja
08/04/18 11:18:23 AM
#90:


darkjedilink posted...
averagejoel posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
averagejoel posted...
ethnic cleansing of white people has never happened and will never happen. it is not a serious threat

Umm... Ever heard of Haiti?

Or WWII? The Jews were still technically white, not to mention all the Eastern Europeans and various Western Europeans that died because they were gay, etc. Then there are the massacres in former Yugoslavia... There's really no excuse for that racist person to not be shamed mercilessly.

jews were not targeted because of the colour of their skin. neither were eastern europeans, LGBT+ people, or yugoslavians.

but you already knew that

So that makes it better?

This. Trolling or just ignorant?

All of those things were for ethnic reasons except the gay thing.
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darkjedilink
08/04/18 11:20:40 AM
#91:


averagejoel posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
averagejoel posted...
FabIemaster posted...
averagejoel posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
averagejoel posted...
ethnic cleansing of white people has never happened and will never happen. it is not a serious threat

Umm... Ever heard of Haiti?

yes


Ever heard of South Africa right now?

google "colonization" and "apartheid" then come back to this topic after reading something

Google genocide of Khoisan, Khoikhoi and San peoples by Bantus before you try to justify genocide with "it's retribution for past crimes".

genocide is not what's happening in South Africa now, and it's disingenuous and lazy to pretend otherwise

Stealing of white people's land in the midst of calls for murdering all white people isn't genocide?

The UN defines "genocide" as:

Killing members of the group
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

I'm pretty sure that what's happening right now in SA would fit the second and third items on that list.
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averagejoel
08/04/18 11:21:19 AM
#92:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
This. Trolling or just ignorant?

All of those things were for ethnic reasons except the gay thing.

ok

but exactly 0 of them were specifically targeted for being white. therefore, it was not an ethnic cleansing of "white people"
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darkjedilink
08/04/18 11:24:00 AM
#93:


averagejoel posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
This. Trolling or just ignorant?

All of those things were for ethnic reasons except the gay thing.

ok

but exactly 0 of them were specifically targeted for being white. therefore, it was not an ethnic cleansing of "white people"

It's literally an ethnic cleansing of white people.
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HiddenLurker
08/04/18 11:26:31 AM
#94:


gmanthebest posted...
Agnostic420 posted...
The biggest loser here is the dork that sat down at home and went through someones tweets to compile off of them and then post it online.

What a fuckin loser.

I'd say the biggest loser is the person tweeting a metric ton of racist shit.

Nah she got a cushy job and legions of defenders for her shitty behaviour. The way I see it she could probably run for mayor or even president with all the support she has.
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The Great Muta 22
08/04/18 11:33:53 AM
#95:


darkjedilink posted...
averagejoel posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
This. Trolling or just ignorant?

All of those things were for ethnic reasons except the gay thing.

ok

but exactly 0 of them were specifically targeted for being white. therefore, it was not an ethnic cleansing of "white people"

It's literally an ethnic cleansing of white people.


I see you're just going to keep doubling down on sheer ignorance and hyperbole today, eh?
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gmanthebest
08/04/18 11:34:57 AM
#96:


HiddenLurker posted...
gmanthebest posted...
Agnostic420 posted...
The biggest loser here is the dork that sat down at home and went through someones tweets to compile off of them and then post it online.

What a fuckin loser.

I'd say the biggest loser is the person tweeting a metric ton of racist shit.

Nah she got a cushy job and legions of defenders for her shitty behaviour. The way I see it she could probably run for mayor or even president with all the support she has.

You can be successful and still be a loser, look at Trump
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DuneMan
08/04/18 11:37:17 AM
#97:


epik_fail1 posted...
I am pretty sure a lot of minorities are annoyed by her racism and think she should be fired. It's pretty sad that they hired that racist, it will fuel alt right idiots and they will use her bigotry against liberalism. She is exactly the reason why center-left people want to be called centrist.

There's a simple test for racism in this instance, and it's already been mentioned: replace instances of the word 'white' with 'black', 'Asian', 'hispanic', or other groups and see if you would still support the sentiment expressed.

She's not alone in her racist sentiments, though people are calling it out more often. People rushing to defend her also move public sentiment away from the prior denial stance of 'SJW/Twitter leftists don't exist'. Equality isn't achieved by flipping scales and perpetuating sins against a new group.
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averagejoel
08/04/18 11:40:42 AM
#98:


DuneMan posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
I am pretty sure a lot of minorities are annoyed by her racism and think she should be fired. It's pretty sad that they hired that racist, it will fuel alt right idiots and they will use her bigotry against liberalism. She is exactly the reason why center-left people want to be called centrist.

There's a simple test for racism in this instance, and it's already been mentioned: replace instances of the word 'white' with 'black', 'Asian', 'hispanic', or other groups and see if you would still support the sentiment expressed.

lol
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gmanthebest
08/04/18 11:47:50 AM
#99:


averagejoel posted...
DuneMan posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
I am pretty sure a lot of minorities are annoyed by her racism and think she should be fired. It's pretty sad that they hired that racist, it will fuel alt right idiots and they will use her bigotry against liberalism. She is exactly the reason why center-left people want to be called centrist.

There's a simple test for racism in this instance, and it's already been mentioned: replace instances of the word 'white' with 'black', 'Asian', 'hispanic', or other groups and see if you would still support the sentiment expressed.

lol

Not surprising coming from averagejoke
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andromedadude3
08/04/18 11:50:57 AM
#100:


averagejoel posted...
ethnic cleansing of white people has never happened and will never happen. it is not a serious threat


The Volga Germans during WWII, bro.
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kayoticdreamz
08/04/18 11:58:30 AM
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newtonwuzvirgin posted...
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/3/17648566/sarah-jeong-new-york-times-twitter-andrew-sullivan

LMAO This is literally an article about why being RACIST isn't RACIST (if its towards white people).

How can anyone defend this? Why would anyone expect a white person to get behind this line of thinking?

White guilt is stupidly strong

White people need to start having pride in themselves
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