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Corman321
07/24/18 11:02:42 PM
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I decided to become a Freemason years ago on a whim, because it seemed like an interesting thing to do. Also, a requirement for joining is that you believe in a God, so I figured it would be positive, although that Catholic church was against it.

I joined and was pleasantly welcomed with the Christian Holy Bible, upon which we take all our vows. I had hopes of getting to the top degrees in the appendant bodies of being a Knights Templar. I was also interested in joining the Shrine, but backed off when I realized it used the Muslim Quran, and I didn't want any part of that.

Well, it was after I was deeply into everything that friends started sending me propaganda about the Freemasons secretly being Satanic. I brushed it off as much as I could but there was always the nagging feeling of what if it really is true?

So I started asking my brethren their thoughts on it, and most backed up that they are Christians and would never be in anything Satanic. Other young ones gave me the bullshit answer of being spiritual but not religious, rejecting the modern church while believing in a higher power, whatever.

Still though, I would study my Bible and tell myself that everything is on the level.

And yet, right there in front of my face, we have the symbol of the Order of the Eastern Star, our appellate body for women, usually the wives of masons. This symbol is clearly a downturned pentagram, though much friendlier looking than the obvious Satanic ones.

http://www.meshc.org/images/logos.jpg

You can then look at the Masonic symbols, the square and compass, and realize that when you put them together in that way, they form much the same shape. It's a makeshift pentagram using these tools.

This has honestly been something nagging at me for years. I don't know what to do with it. My dad has even talked about joining and I kept him out just on the possibility that this is secretly some selling your soul out to the devil shit. I don't think it is, and obviously it's full of good Christian people, but also the possibility of shady evil shit at the top scares me.
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glitteringfairy
07/24/18 11:07:11 PM
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There aren't people in your order you can ask? Freemasonry is highly secretive shit
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Corman321
07/24/18 11:08:24 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
There aren't people in your order you can ask? Freemasonry is highly secretive shit


As I said, I've already asked them.

The legend goes that us lowly master masons don't actually know what's going on higher up.
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Questionmarktarius
07/24/18 11:09:20 PM
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Look at all the shit that's leaked out of scientology, and even the mormons and catholics, and then wonder why the same can't really be said of masons, apart from a couple Chick tracks.
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Thatuser
07/24/18 11:10:20 PM
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How old is your grandmother, TC?
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Thatuser
07/24/18 11:12:27 PM
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Corman321 posted...
The legend goes that us lowly master masons don't actually know what's going on higher up.

Right here, I don't believe you are a mason.
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Jiek_Fafn
07/24/18 11:13:33 PM
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They don't want the luck to drain out. Just like a horseshoe.
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Corman321
07/24/18 11:15:57 PM
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Thatuser posted...
Corman321 posted...
The legend goes that us lowly master masons don't actually know what's going on higher up.

Right here, I don't believe you are a mason.


Why?

I wouldn't be asking this if I wasn't serious. I'm still good with my lodge but ever since this shit got in my head, I haven't been fully connected and I rarely go to meetings.
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ave1
07/24/18 11:37:41 PM
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The Bible says to avoid all appearance of evil. I'd say your time is better spent within church-oriented activities.
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ASithLord7
07/24/18 11:39:46 PM
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Boy what a stupid topic
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Corman321
07/24/18 11:49:46 PM
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ave1 posted...
The Bible says to avoid all appearance of evil. I'd say your time is better spent within church-oriented activities.


Meetings never take place on a Sunday. I've never known this trade to take the place of worship.

ASithLord7 posted...
Boy what a stupid topic


Thanks for your input. I'm looking for answers though.
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darkprince45
07/24/18 11:51:13 PM
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Wtf is the free masons anyway
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Corman321
07/24/18 11:54:38 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
Wtf is the free masons anyway


It's a fraternity that has been around for hundreds of years. Most of the founding fathers of the United States were masons. In fact the Boston Tea Party was indeed a freemason meeting, however instead of signing their names in the ledger, a giant 'T' was written across the page, and they went out to make history.
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darkprince45
07/25/18 12:37:16 AM
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Okay but that doesnt even answer my question
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