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Sayoria
07/20/18 2:19:22 PM
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ElatedVenusaur
07/20/18 2:22:05 PM
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I've heard through the grapevine that James Thompson and Brent Welder are poor candidates who the Justice Democrats hastily endorsed before other, (better) candidates got in. IIRC, the latter is doing especially badly, and the Justice Dems are calling in Bernie to try and save face.
The optics are cool though, but this is why I only give money to the DSA.
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Nomadic View
07/20/18 2:22:16 PM
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Its certainly interesting. I dont think theres enough push for someone like that to be elected president, but it is interesting to see people interested in an actual ideology rather than Trump is mean!
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E32005
07/20/18 2:22:35 PM
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Lol watching alt right freak out is great
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Romes187
07/20/18 2:22:45 PM
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typical bourgeois posting from their computer about things

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Caution999
07/20/18 2:24:43 PM
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I don't quite understand what's so exciting about a concept that will do nothing except ruin the country.

That's just me.

"But muh free stuff!"
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AlephZero
07/20/18 2:25:15 PM
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"Americans support Medicare for All, expanding Social Security benefits, gun reform, debt-free college, and a $15 minimum wage," Ocasio-Cortez wrote."

americans support free stuff with no way to pay for it
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Genocet_10-325
07/20/18 2:25:33 PM
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Caution999 posted...
I don't quite understand what's so exciting about a concept that will do nothing except ruin the country.

That's just me.

"But muh free stuff!"

Shut the fuck up, no need to criticize a system you obviously know absolutely nothing about.
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Romes187
07/20/18 2:26:01 PM
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I support free free stuff for all

shouldn't have to pay anymore for our free stuff imo

how will i do this? Force people to provide it without us having to pay them

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Caution999
07/20/18 2:26:29 PM
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Contrary to what your Sociology Professor has told you about, no Socialism isn't gonna help us prosper.

I don't know about you guys, but I don't wanna be forced to eat rat 15 years after Socialism is implemented.
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Doom_Art
07/20/18 2:26:39 PM
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Caution999 posted...
I don't quite understand what's so exciting about a concept that will do nothing except ruin the country.

Kansas has been ruined by the GOP so it makes sense people would wanna run as far in the other direction as possible
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Questionmarktarius
07/20/18 2:27:17 PM
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ledbowman
07/20/18 2:27:29 PM
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Excited we're about to try something different.
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Caution999
07/20/18 2:27:32 PM
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And what has Detroit been ruined by?
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Genocet_10-325
07/20/18 2:27:33 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Contrary to what your Sociology Professor has told you about, no Socialism isn't gonna help us prosper.

Says the person who thinks the definition of socialism is "free stuff lol"
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DarthAragorn
07/20/18 2:28:20 PM
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I really didn't want to vote Republican this year but I guess I have to
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Uncle Choad
07/20/18 2:28:49 PM
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I support bringing the quality of life down for most Americans.
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Genocet_10-325
07/20/18 2:29:03 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
I really didn't want to vote Republican this year but I guess I have to

Bullshit, you were already going to vote R no matter what and this didn't affect your decision in any way.
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Caution999
07/20/18 2:29:13 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
I really didn't want to vote Republican this year but I guess I have to


I'm with you. I never liked the Republicans, but it's clear the Democratic party has completely given up on being reasonable.
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Doom_Art
07/20/18 2:29:22 PM
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Caution999 posted...
And what has Detroit been ruined by?

The city gave special treatment to and based its existence around the automotive industry then they picked up shop and moved to China

Capitalism at its finest
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ThePrinceFish
07/20/18 2:29:58 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Contrary to what your Sociology Professor has told you about, no Socialism isn't gonna help us prosper.

Says the person who thinks the definition of socialism is "free stuff lol"

I look forward to Ocasio-Cortez explaining how she intends to fund literally anything.

Because so far, every time she's been asked, she throws out a feel good answer about how underprivileged people deserve better lives just because. Which sounds nice, in a post-scarcity fantasy world.
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Caution999
07/20/18 2:30:05 PM
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Yeah, and what car do you drive, Doom?

A foreign one?
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Genocet_10-325
07/20/18 2:30:32 PM
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Caution999 posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
I really didn't want to vote Republican this year but I guess I have to


I'm with you. I never liked the Republicans, but it's clear the Democratic party has completely given up on being reasonable.

Caution, care to tell me the actual definition of socialism?

Of course not, because you have absolutely no idea what it actually is.
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ledbowman
07/20/18 2:30:33 PM
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Thanks Trump
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Genocet_10-325
07/20/18 2:31:14 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Contrary to what your Sociology Professor has told you about, no Socialism isn't gonna help us prosper.

Says the person who thinks the definition of socialism is "free stuff lol"

I look forward to Ocasio-Cortez explaining how she intends to fund literally anything.

Because so far, every time she's been asked, she throws out a feel good answer about how underprivileged people deserve better lives just because. Which sounds nice, in a post-scarcity fantasy world.

Higher taxes on the top 0.1%, higher taxes on large corporations.
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Doom_Art
07/20/18 2:31:23 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Yeah, and what car do you drive, Doom?

A foreign one?

Yes? What are you getting at
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Antifar
07/20/18 2:32:26 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
I really didn't want to vote Republican this year but I guess I have to

You don't have to. No one's putting a gun to your head.

Just admit that you'd prefer a party whose buffoonishly corrupt administration is putting toddlers on trial over a party that has some elected officials (not even yet a majority) that want to make sure everybody has health care.
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Questionmarktarius
07/20/18 2:32:30 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Contrary to what your Sociology Professor has told you about, no Socialism isn't gonna help us prosper.

Says the person who thinks the definition of socialism is "free stuff lol"

I look forward to Ocasio-Cortez explaining how she intends to fund literally anything.

Because so far, every time she's been asked, she throws out a feel good answer about how underprivileged people deserve better lives just because. Which sounds nice, in a post-scarcity fantasy world.

Higher taxes on the top 0.1%, higher taxes on large corporations.

Soon:
"Koch Industries relocates to Missouri"
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Romes187
07/20/18 2:32:32 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Caution999 posted...
And what has Detroit been ruined by?

The city gave special treatment to and based its existence around the automotive industry then they picked up shop and moved to China

Capitalism at its finest


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ThePrinceFish
07/20/18 2:32:52 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Contrary to what your Sociology Professor has told you about, no Socialism isn't gonna help us prosper.

Says the person who thinks the definition of socialism is "free stuff lol"

I look forward to Ocasio-Cortez explaining how she intends to fund literally anything.

Because so far, every time she's been asked, she throws out a feel good answer about how underprivileged people deserve better lives just because. Which sounds nice, in a post-scarcity fantasy world.

Higher taxes on the top 0.1%, higher taxes on large corporations.

And when they simply pack up and move to a place that isn't taxing them at 90%, what do we do then?

Or do we rise up and forcibly seize the means of production, comrade?
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DarthAragorn
07/20/18 2:33:53 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
I really didn't want to vote Republican this year but I guess I have to

Bullshit, you were already going to vote R no matter what and this didn't affect your decision in any way.

I really wasn't but I'm glad I triggered you
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Genocet_10-325
07/20/18 2:34:22 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Contrary to what your Sociology Professor has told you about, no Socialism isn't gonna help us prosper.

Says the person who thinks the definition of socialism is "free stuff lol"

I look forward to Ocasio-Cortez explaining how she intends to fund literally anything.

Because so far, every time she's been asked, she throws out a feel good answer about how underprivileged people deserve better lives just because. Which sounds nice, in a post-scarcity fantasy world.

Higher taxes on the top 0.1%, higher taxes on large corporations.

And when they simply pack up and move to a place that isn't taxing them at 90%, what do we do then?

Or do we rise up and forcibly seize the means of production, comrade?

Right, because that's what they did up until the 70s, when we actually did tax some of them at 90+%

OH WAIT NO THEY DIDNT
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Romes187
07/20/18 2:35:26 PM
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guys this time i think ill lead the charge

trust me, because all those other attempts? not real socialism.

i alone do know exactly how it can and should be done. this time, things will work out
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tremain07
07/20/18 2:35:41 PM
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So we can't tax rich people and corporations because they'll ditch us, we cut taxes for them and they still ditch us WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE SUPPOSE TO DO WITH THEM THEN?! It's pissing me off how there doesn't seem to be a solution to this growing problem because the corps and rich will dick us over anyway, so what the hell do we do about this? ANSWER ME!!!!!
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Questionmarktarius
07/20/18 2:36:51 PM
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tremain07 posted...
So we can't tax rich people and corporations because they'll ditch us, we cut taxes for them and they still ditch us WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE SUPPOSE TO DO WITH THEM THEN?! It's pissing me off how there doesn't seem to be a solution to this growing problem because the corps and rich will dick us over anyway, so what the hell do we do about this? ANSWER ME!!!!!

End corporate welfare, protectionism, and kingmaking, entirely.
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Romes187
07/20/18 2:37:18 PM
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tremain07 posted...
So we can't tax rich people and corporations because they'll ditch us, we cut taxes for them and they still ditch us WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE SUPPOSE TO DO WITH THEM THEN?! It's pissing me off how there doesn't seem to be a solution to this growing problem because the corps and rich will dick us over anyway, so what the hell do we do about this? ANSWER ME!!!!!


We should cut government spending and realize that just because we don't have a yacht doesn't mean our lives suck.
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DarthAragorn
07/20/18 2:37:42 PM
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Romes187 posted...
guys this time i think ill lead the charge

trust me, because all those other attempts? not real socialism.

i alone do know exactly how it can and should be done. this time, things will work out

it'll work this time
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Caution999
07/20/18 2:38:21 PM
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Hope you guys develop a taste for rat because that's what you'll be having for dinner 10 years after you implement Socialism (it works at first, but fails in the end).
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Romes187
07/20/18 2:38:24 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Romes187 posted...
guys this time i think ill lead the charge

trust me, because all those other attempts? not real socialism.

i alone do know exactly how it can and should be done. this time, things will work out

it'll work this time


this time it'll be democratic socialism so its different

we get to vote ourselves into starvation
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Sayoria
07/20/18 2:38:25 PM
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Guys, guys. Please. I didn't intend for this to initiate fighting!
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A_Good_Boy
07/20/18 2:39:26 PM
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Don't know why the typical posters in this topic are so upset. Kansas already tried your experiment of slashing taxes and hoping people will donate to make the state better. They didn't, and the place is now a shithole. Don't know why you'd get upset at a couple of politicians attempting to fix something instead of resorting to the typical GOP tactic of setting an institution on fire and ruling over the ash pile.
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ledbowman
07/20/18 2:40:08 PM
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Sayoria posted...
Guys, guys. Please. I didn't intend for this to initiate fighting!

What you're seeing is triggered conserva-tears.
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Antifar
07/20/18 2:40:10 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Contrary to what your Sociology Professor has told you about, no Socialism isn't gonna help us prosper.

Says the person who thinks the definition of socialism is "free stuff lol"

I look forward to Ocasio-Cortez explaining how she intends to fund literally anything.

Because so far, every time she's been asked, she throws out a feel good answer about how underprivileged people deserve better lives just because. Which sounds nice, in a post-scarcity fantasy world.

This continued action damages Americas legitimacy as a force for good, creates new generations of potential terrorists, and erodes American prosperity. In times when were told that theres not enough money, Republicans and corporate Democrats seem to find the cash to fund a $1.1 trillion fighter jet program or a $1.7 trillion-dollar nuclear weapon modernization program. The costs are extreme: the Pentagons budget for 2018 is $700 billion dollars: to continue fighting an endless War on Terror and refighting the Cold War with a new arms race that nobody can win.


https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1016704302147096576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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NinjaWarrior455
07/20/18 2:40:47 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Don't know why the typical posters in this topic are so upset. Kansas already tried your experiment of slashing taxes and hoping people will donate to make the state better. They didn't, and the place is now a shithole. Don't know why you'd get upset at a couple of politicians attempting to fix something instead of resorting to the typical GOP tactic of setting an institution on fire and ruling over the ash pile.

Becauae trickle down totally works! Reagan was never wrong about anything!
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halomonkey1_3_5
07/20/18 2:41:20 PM
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the only two outcomes for Kansas are, clearly, a socialist utopia with 90%+ tax rate on the wealthy, or a GOP-driven hellhole that slashes their budget for social services to reduce the tax rate by 1%

there is no chance that we could, I dont know, raise taxes a reasonable amount and better fund social programs w/o descending into pure communism
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Romes187
07/20/18 2:41:48 PM
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halomonkey1_3_5 posted...
the only two outcomes for Kansas are, clearly, a socialist utopia with 90%+ tax rate on the wealthy, or a GOP-driven hellhole that slashes their budget for social services to reduce the tax rate by 1%

there is no chance that we could, I dont know, raise taxes a reasonable amount and better fund social programs w/o descending into pure communism


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Uncle Choad
07/20/18 2:42:14 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Don't know why the typical posters in this topic are so upset. Kansas already tried your experiment of slashing taxes and hoping people will donate to make the state better. They didn't, and the place is now a shithole. Don't know why you'd get upset at a couple of politicians attempting to fix something instead of resorting to the typical GOP tactic of setting an institution on fire and ruling over the ash pile.


I've always been a fan of the wealthy and the government making deals on how much to dole out rations to the general population.

Taking the citizens out of the negotiating part makes things a lot easier for them.
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Romes187
07/20/18 2:42:31 PM
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Antifar posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Contrary to what your Sociology Professor has told you about, no Socialism isn't gonna help us prosper.

Says the person who thinks the definition of socialism is "free stuff lol"

I look forward to Ocasio-Cortez explaining how she intends to fund literally anything.

Because so far, every time she's been asked, she throws out a feel good answer about how underprivileged people deserve better lives just because. Which sounds nice, in a post-scarcity fantasy world.

This continued action damages Americas legitimacy as a force for good, creates new generations of potential terrorists, and erodes American prosperity. In times when were told that theres not enough money, Republicans and corporate Democrats seem to find the cash to fund a $1.1 trillion fighter jet program or a $1.7 trillion-dollar nuclear weapon modernization program. The costs are extreme: the Pentagons budget for 2018 is $700 billion dollars: to continue fighting an endless War on Terror and refighting the Cold War with a new arms race that nobody can win.


https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1016704302147096576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


srsly. what does the pentagon even do anyways. cut it all and pay for some art degrees imo
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Caution999
07/20/18 2:44:04 PM
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ledbowman posted...
Sayoria posted...
Guys, guys. Please. I didn't intend for this to initiate fighting!

What you're seeing is triggered conserva-tears.


I'd just prefer not to ever eat a rat. That's all.
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