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Rob Cesternino
07/18/18 10:43:30 PM
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https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/18/news/companies/papa-johns-letter/index.html

Papa John's founder John Schnatter said it was a "mistake" for him to resign.
In letter to the pizza chain's board obtained by CNNMoney, Schnatter accused the board of not "doing any investigation" and said its decision to remove him as chairman was based on "rumor and innuendo."

Last week, the Papa John's founder resigned after he admitted to using the N-word on a conference call with marketing agency Laundry Service.

In his letter, he said Laundry Service wanted to hire rapper Kanye West to represent Papa John's in advertising materials, but Schnatter wasn't on board with the idea because West uses the N-word in his lyrics.

Schnatter claimed the agency asked if he was racist, and he used the N-word in describing how KFC's Colonel Sanders used to talk. Schnatter said he wouldn't ever use that word -- although he just had.

He also alleged that Laundry Service tried to extort Papa John's by threatening to go public with Schnatter's comments. Laundry Service didn't immediately return CNNMoney's request for comment.

Schnatter has hired Patricia Glaser, an attorney to represent him to the board. She sent a separate letter saying any attempt to remove Schnatter from the board without a "proper vote of the shareholders will be null and void." He still owns roughly 30% of the company's shares.

Papa John's (PZZA)has been distancing itself from the cofounder since the scandal erupted last week. He was kicked out of his office and the brand has scrapped Schnatter's image from its pizza boxes and pulled ads that featured him.

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mistalightbulb
07/18/18 10:47:16 PM
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MrK3V
07/18/18 10:47:32 PM
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EnragedSlith
07/18/18 10:52:26 PM
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Id feel bad for the guy if he wasnt such an awful human being
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Fin_Dawg_004
07/18/18 10:52:46 PM
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Aye
07/18/18 10:53:02 PM
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Racist piece of shit got what was coming to him
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Muffinz0rz
07/18/18 10:53:13 PM
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We are living in the darkest timeline
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HylianFox
07/18/18 10:53:21 PM
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Better resignations
Better lawsuits
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Bishop9800
07/18/18 10:54:21 PM
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HylianFox posted...
Better resignations
Better lawsuits


Better attorneys.
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HylianFox
07/18/18 10:55:13 PM
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Cases won in 30 minutes or your pizza is free
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CapnMuffin
07/18/18 10:56:30 PM
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In his letter, he said Laundry Service wanted to hire rapper Kanye West to represent Papa John's in advertising materials, but Schnatter wasn't on board with the idea because West uses the N-word in his lyrics.

Wonder if this is true? Makes it seem like the ad company was just going oooo you said bad word were gonna tattle on you!
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legendarylemur
07/18/18 10:57:30 PM
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Some of the later sentences after that don't make a whole lot of sense. I think he made a joke and it didn't go through. as to how it ever got to public, it was probably that same ad agency in question
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solosnake
07/18/18 10:57:40 PM
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This guy is one of the worst human beings on the planet. Good rddnce
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devilminion
07/18/18 10:58:19 PM
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EnragedSlith posted...
Id feel bad for the guy if he wasnt such an awful human being


This. I mean, he is definitely a shitbag, but the fact that he got blackmailed out of the company for just uttering the n-word in a non-racist way is kind of dumb. I mean, it almost reads like one of those 5 year old gotcha-moments, "did you say X" "no, I didn't say X" "Ha, you said X now! We're telling!"
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IslamMD
07/18/18 11:00:01 PM
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Rob Cesternino posted...
Papa John's founder John Schnatter said it was a "mistake" for him to resign.


He said he would resign but what he meant to say was he wouldnt resign. Common mistake.
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solosnake
07/18/18 11:01:22 PM
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IslamMD posted...
Rob Cesternino posted...
Papa John's founder John Schnatter said it was a "mistake" for him to resign.


He said he would resign but what he meant to say was he wouldnt resign. Common mistake.

yeah just ask trump
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HylianFox
07/18/18 11:03:34 PM
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IslamMD posted...
Rob Cesternino posted...
Papa John's founder John Schnatter said it was a "mistake" for him to resign.


He said he would resign but what he meant to say was he wouldnt resign. Common mistake.

I "could" care less
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Ya_dun_goofed
07/18/18 11:03:38 PM
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At a bare minimum this guy is a total moron..
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/18/18 11:04:22 PM
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"I'm suing you for me saying the n word"

^trump supporter logic
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/18/18 11:05:35 PM
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IslamMD posted...
Rob Cesternino posted...
Papa John's founder John Schnatter said it was a "mistake" for him to resign.


He said he ?would? resign but what he meant to say was he ?wouldn?t ? resign. Common mistake.


Haha, you... *points at you* you... :)
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jborgan
07/18/18 11:07:36 PM
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devilminion posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Id feel bad for the guy if he wasnt such an awful human being


This. I mean, he is definitely a shitbag, but the fact that he got blackmailed out of the company for just uttering the n-word in a non-racist way is kind of dumb. I mean, it almost reads like one of those 5 year old gotcha-moments, "did you say X" "no, I didn't say X" "Ha, you said X now! We're telling!"

He was literally complaining that Colonel Sanders was able to say the n word with no repercussions (no proof there) while at a conference call that was specifically for him so he could be taught not to say stupid things.
There was no blackmail. He dug his own grave, buried himself and took the shovel with him.
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Returning_CEmen
07/18/18 11:15:15 PM
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@solosnake posted...
This guy is one of the worst human beings on the planet. Good rddnce


What is his scumbag list of accomplishments?
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hockeybub89
07/18/18 11:21:26 PM
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I feel like there were better ways for him to explain himself in the conference call than "I would never say n-word in a racist way. Colonel Sanders probably said n-word in a racist way all the time and never got in trouble. It's not like I dragged black people from the back of a truck like some folk from my hometown."
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KhanJohnny
07/18/18 11:24:00 PM
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Topic title doesnt match OP
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Shuto-uke
07/18/18 11:26:06 PM
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Aye posted...
Racist piece of shit got what was coming to him
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legendarylemur
07/18/18 11:28:03 PM
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I think a white man using the N-word is hardly criteria for the worst human on the planet. It's usually stemmed from ignorance more than maliciousness. If anything guys like Putin or Trump is far worse, though for Trump you can also attribute it to ignorance.
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07/18/18 11:29:00 PM
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TheGoldenEel
07/18/18 11:36:40 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
I think a white man using the N-word is hardly criteria for the worst human on the planet. It's usually stemmed from ignorance more than maliciousness. If anything guys like Putin or Trump is far worse, though for Trump you can also attribute it to ignorance.

That isnt what makes him the worst
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devilminion
07/18/18 11:39:01 PM
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jborgan posted...
devilminion posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Id feel bad for the guy if he wasnt such an awful human being


This. I mean, he is definitely a shitbag, but the fact that he got blackmailed out of the company for just uttering the n-word in a non-racist way is kind of dumb. I mean, it almost reads like one of those 5 year old gotcha-moments, "did you say X" "no, I didn't say X" "Ha, you said X now! We're telling!"

He was literally complaining that Colonel Sanders was able to say the n word with no repercussions (no proof there) while at a conference call that was specifically for him so he could be taught not to say stupid things.
There was no blackmail. He dug his own grave, buried himself and took the shovel with him.


Look, I don't want to defend the guy, but forcing him to resign like that, it can easily be seen as blackmail. I mean, as far as I know, there is no transcript of the conference call. He could have said some actual racist shit.
And as far as the Colonel Sanders thing, I wouldn't say he was "complaining', as much as he was trying to downplay his previous actions as being "not so bad" by comparison. His way of rationalizing his shitty behavior.
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A Novel Idea
07/18/18 11:40:17 PM
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"Look, I don't want to defend the guy, but let me tell you why I love Papa John Schnatter." - devilminion
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devilminion
07/18/18 11:41:02 PM
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A Novel Idea posted...
"Look, I don't want to defend the guy, but let me tell you why I love Papa John Schnatter." - devilminion

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legendarylemur
07/18/18 11:41:47 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
legendarylemur posted...
I think a white man using the N-word is hardly criteria for the worst human on the planet. It's usually stemmed from ignorance more than maliciousness. If anything guys like Putin or Trump is far worse, though for Trump you can also attribute it to ignorance.

That isnt what makes him the worst

What is it then? I've not been privy to this news
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devilminion
07/18/18 11:42:21 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
TheGoldenEel posted...
legendarylemur posted...
I think a white man using the N-word is hardly criteria for the worst human on the planet. It's usually stemmed from ignorance more than maliciousness. If anything guys like Putin or Trump is far worse, though for Trump you can also attribute it to ignorance.

That isnt what makes him the worst

What is it then? I've not been privy to this news


Trump? Many things, but his ego far exceeds his ignorance.
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/18/18 11:44:49 PM
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Returning_CEmen posted...
solosnake posted...
This guy is one of the worst human beings on the planet. Good rddnce


What is his scumbag list of accomplishments?

He got really drunk one time.

He said his lack of sales might have had to do with the lack of nfl viewership.

He said a potty word.
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DoctorVader
07/18/18 11:47:31 PM
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Papa Gone
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AceAttorneyist
07/18/18 11:51:36 PM
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So many people in this topic claim this guy is the worst but say nothing to back it up
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devilminion
07/19/18 12:16:42 AM
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AceAttorneyist posted...
So many people in this topic claim this guy is the worst but say nothing to back it up


Now, this has to be taken with a grain of salt, because according to A Novel Idea, I love the guy, buuut off the top of my head;

Has/had a history of popping into random restaurants and yelling at management if they weren't up to his standards
One of the more vocal complainers about the NFL players kneeling, accusing them of costing him money
Was very anti-obamacare, claiming it would raise the price of his already expensive pizzas
Donated to Trump's campaign
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/19/18 8:58:09 AM
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devilminion posted...
AceAttorneyist posted...
So many people in this topic claim this guy is the worst but say nothing to back it up


Now, this has to be taken with a grain of salt, because according to A Novel Idea, I love the guy, buuut off the top of my head;

Has/had a history of popping into random restaurants and yelling at management if they weren't up to his standards
One of the more vocal complainers about the NFL players kneeling, accusing them of costing him money
Was very anti-obamacare, claiming it would raise the price of his already expensive pizzas
Donated to Trump's campaign

So nothing really bad?

And the Obamacare was mainly because of the franchises. I worked at a franchise, it would have put them all out of business.
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hollow_shrine
07/19/18 9:01:21 AM
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Did he not read the fine print on his 'n-word 'privileges' contract?

He gets this word, and we get his multi-million dollar pizza franchise and all of his dignity.
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Hexenherz
07/19/18 4:15:56 PM
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What grounds can he sue on if he voluntarily resigned...
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07/19/18 4:32:08 PM
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jborgan posted...
devilminion posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Id feel bad for the guy if he wasnt such an awful human being


This. I mean, he is definitely a shitbag, but the fact that he got blackmailed out of the company for just uttering the n-word in a non-racist way is kind of dumb. I mean, it almost reads like one of those 5 year old gotcha-moments, "did you say X" "no, I didn't say X" "Ha, you said X now! We're telling!"

He was literally complaining that Colonel Sanders was able to say the n word with no repercussions (no proof there) while at a conference call that was specifically for him so he could be taught not to say stupid things.
There was no blackmail. He dug his own grave, buried himself and took the shovel with him.


Just from the context in which I've seen the quote reported, this isn't really accurate. He wasn't complaining the Colonel Sanders was able to say it with no consequences (true or not) so he should be able to as well. It was more of a "I, the founder of a restaurant, am getting back lash for speaking against a movement that involves a lot of black athletes, yet colonel sanders did/said overtly racist things like the n-word and got no back lash."

Like a "I did this arguably bad thing and am in hot water but he did an obviously bad thing and nothing happened" statement.

The media is definitely acting like he used it in a derogatory way though because that is what's best for their narrative, especially since he supports Trump.

Apparently the guy is a shithead outside of all this controversy though, so fuck him if that's all true. And his pizza plays second fiddle to fucking LC
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frogman_295
07/19/18 4:33:29 PM
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Good. I hope he wins. Imagine a fucking society where you get fired for this...all that hard work making the restaraunt what it is today.
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Hexenherz
07/19/18 4:36:43 PM
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frogman_295 posted...
Good. I hope he wins. Imagine a fucking society where you get fired for this...all that hard work making the restaraunt what it is today.


> getting fired

> literally he resigned
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devilminion
07/19/18 4:46:12 PM
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Conflict posted...
Don't use "blackmail" if you have no idea wtf it means. What an extremely stupid set of posts.


Sorry, didn't mean to offend your Papa. You are right, I was wrong, I guess he isn't a terrible human being. Carry on with your special sauce pizza.
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07/19/18 5:08:18 PM
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Turbam
07/19/18 5:21:57 PM
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Rob Cesternino posted...
Schnatter said he wouldn't ever use that word -- although he just had.

I don't know why this makes me laugh, but it does
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Phantom_Nook
07/19/18 5:25:09 PM
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He should sue himself for making garbage pizza.
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