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gunplagirl
07/17/18 5:11:40 AM
#102:


Kineth posted...
Yeah @gunplagirl, I think you're reading way further into the political comic than is intended or necessary. I mean, did you have the same line of thinking when people were making those memes about how Joe Biden looked at Barack Obama?

I think you're missing the point of the comic if you think it's using homosexuality as the punchline. I agree with you a vast majority of the time, but this ain't one of those times.


The Obama Biden jokes (the "we wouldn't even be allowed to buy pizza in Indiana" joke in particular) were ones done tongue in cheek, they were self deprecating of their friendship, acknowledged the homophobic boundaries that many Americans have regarding how close two men can be as friends, and was done with a sense of inclusion because they actually support LGBT people and LGBT rights.

There's a distinct difference between "we're good friends and bigots might think we're gay and neither Biden nor I (Obama) will let that interfere with our friendship" and "these two extremely homophobic and evil leaders are working together towards the same goal, clearly they are repressed homosexual lovers"
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gunplagirl
07/17/18 5:14:29 AM
#103:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Ah, "their" again and you've said you won't use singular they either.

I don't know what that means.

gunplagirl posted...
Just because you don't advocate for yourself doesn't mean others don't actually pay attention to the minor ways through which society ingrains homophobic views into people

Or maybe people disagree with your idiotic viewpoints on what ingrains homophobic views into people.

Aka: maybe people think you're wrong. But that's not allowed.

gunplagirl posted...
But you also probably thought everyone who cried when trump won was overreacting and he wouldn't actually do anything to harm lgbt people.

Sort of and also sort of not.

People falling down on their knees, crying and shitting their pants because Trump won will never stop being a hilarious overreaching, but I never thought his election would be a positive for gay people.


You've posted in agreement with those "I won't refer to a gender queer person as 'they'" topics before.

You don't understand it, therefore it's idiotic. Gotcha.

And it sounds like you lack any semblance of empathy towards anyone not on good terms with you, as you revel in their discomfort. That's concerning.
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gunplagirl
07/17/18 5:16:21 AM
#104:


Kalavinka posted...
gunplagirl posted...
No, it's literally just homophobia and the only ones who should shut the fuck up are the ones who insist otherwise.
Like if the punchline of your joke is "wow imagine if these two awful MEN HAVE SEX AND ROMANTIC FEELINGS FOR EACH OTHER how gross right?" then maybe the joke isn't about the behavior of the two men.


Are you being deliberately obtuse?


Are you obtuse? Or at least, incapable of reading up on several of the 50+ posts that follow that one?

The punchline is still "they're in bed with each other. Two men. Hah, gross."
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NibeIungsnarf
07/17/18 5:18:11 AM
#105:


gunplagirl posted...
You've posted in agreement with those "I won't refer to a gender queer person as 'they'" topics before.


Don't think I have.

gunplagirl posted...
You don't understand it, therefore it's idiotic. Gotcha.


No.... I didn't understand the first thing I responded to. I understood the second part. How are you mixing this up?

gunplagirl posted...
And it sounds like you lack any semblance of empathy towards anyone not on good terms with you, as you revel in their discomfort. That's concerning.

I don't revel in anyone's discomfort. I just think people losing their shit in public is funny.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/17/18 5:19:14 AM
#106:


gunplagirl posted...
The punchline is still "they're in bed with each other. Two men. Hah, gross."

Except for the part where literally nobody except you (and conservatrolls) thinks this, but because you have a viewpoint than all others are invalid.
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Kineth
07/17/18 5:19:32 AM
#107:


gunplagirl posted...
The Obama Biden jokes (the "we wouldn't even be allowed to buy pizza in Indiana" joke in particular) were ones done tongue in cheek, they were self deprecating of their friendship, acknowledged the homophobic boundaries that many Americans have regarding how close two men can be as friends, and was done with a sense of inclusion because they actually support LGBT people and LGBT rights.

There's a distinct difference between "we're good friends and bigots might think we're gay and neither Biden nor I (Obama) will let that interfere with our friendship" and "these two extremely homophobic and evil leaders are working together towards the same goal, clearly they are repressed homosexual lovers"


I don't think the message of the cartoon is about them being homophobic leaders though, even though it is valid that they are. They're in bed together. If the cartoon had them spoon in bed to illustrate that instead of them kissing, I'd gather that you'd have the same response, but I still think it misses the point.

Your conclusion would be valid if the premise was case, but I don't agree with the premise. And.. I mean, what is being made fun of is a much more serious issue than the Obama-Biden memes. Everybody is getting fucked, not just the LGBT community and I don't think that cartoon was making any attempt at taking a jab at that community.
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gunplagirl
07/17/18 5:32:26 AM
#108:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
gunplagirl posted...
The punchline is still "they're in bed with each other. Two men. Hah, gross."

Except for the part where literally nobody except you (and conservatrolls) thinks this, but because you have a viewpoint than all others are invalid.

Plenty of lgbt people think it's awful, but it figures cis gay men wouldn't think it's that bad seeing as lgbt rights mostly just benefit you anyways and therefore plenty of the misogyny of gay stereotypes would have no meaningful impact or provide any notable barriers to your continued existence.

And there's really no conservatrolls, especially not here, getting upset it's homophobic. They're angry because it depicts trump as being gay and they feel that being gay is an inherently negative thing and therefore to suggest trump is gay is a terrible attack that cannot be overlooked. Which is distinctly different than being offended at it being homophobic, as their anger only exists because they are homophobes and it's the only reason they consider the implication to be an insult. That's also distinctly different from being upset because the jokes are homophobic with respect to the historic context of gay being used as an insult to demean and attack the validity of gay persons.
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WaffIeElite
07/17/18 5:33:36 AM
#109:


So, what do you call someone who's being cucked by a cuck? Trump is being cucked hard by Putin, and Trump's supporters are just watching that.
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gunplagirl
07/17/18 5:35:10 AM
#110:


Kineth posted...
gunplagirl posted...
The Obama Biden jokes (the "we wouldn't even be allowed to buy pizza in Indiana" joke in particular) were ones done tongue in cheek, they were self deprecating of their friendship, acknowledged the homophobic boundaries that many Americans have regarding how close two men can be as friends, and was done with a sense of inclusion because they actually support LGBT people and LGBT rights.

There's a distinct difference between "we're good friends and bigots might think we're gay and neither Biden nor I (Obama) will let that interfere with our friendship" and "these two extremely homophobic and evil leaders are working together towards the same goal, clearly they are repressed homosexual lovers"


I don't think the message of the cartoon is about them being homophobic leaders though, even though it is valid that they are. They're in bed together. If the cartoon had them spoon in bed to illustrate that instead of them kissing, I'd gather that you'd have the same response, but I still think it misses the point.

Your conclusion would be valid if the premise was case, but I don't agree with the premise. And.. I mean, what is being made fun of is a much more serious issue than the Obama-Biden memes. Everybody is getting fucked, not just the LGBT community and I don't think that cartoon was making any attempt at taking a jab at that community.

See my last post. And sure, everybody is being fucked. But especially lgbt people and of them, trans people in particular seeing as trump tried several times to ban them from military service plus all the repealing of Obama era guidelines, having devos refuse to actually enforce judge rulings that protect trans students, etc.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/17/18 5:53:54 AM
#111:


gunplagirl posted...
but it figures cis gay men wouldn't think it's that bad seeing as lgbt rights mostly just benefit you anyways and therefore plenty of the misogyny of gay stereotypes would have no meaningful impact or provide any notable barriers to your continued existence.

Why do you assume I'm gay?

gunplagirl posted...
Plenty of lgbt people think it's awful

Why do their opinion matter more than the "plenty of lgbt people" who don't think it's even remotely homophobic?
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RainblowDash
07/17/18 5:55:33 AM
#112:


Russia hasnt exactly profited from this though
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Turbam
07/17/18 5:57:55 AM
#113:


Is this really three pages of you guys arguing about the political comic?
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thelovefist
07/17/18 6:02:06 AM
#114:


Turbam posted...
Is this really three pages of gunplagirl shitposting about the political comic?


Yes it is.
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scar the 1
07/17/18 6:19:52 AM
#115:


gunplagirl posted...
The punchline is still "they're in bed with each other. Two men. Hah, gross."

No it isn't
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CM_Ponch
07/17/18 6:22:41 AM
#116:


Top tier trolling
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TheRealDill2000
07/17/18 6:22:52 AM
#117:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Trump fucking embarrassed America so bad

No, the embarrassment is tied to our intelligence department. They should provide better evidence if they are going to accuse Russia of these heinous actions.
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kg88222
07/17/18 6:23:31 AM
#118:


According to Trump he just likes Putin and you are just assuming these things. Before he didn't even know him and you were just assuming these things. It's all in your head.
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008Zulu
07/17/18 6:23:48 AM
#119:


RainblowDash posted...
Russia hasnt exactly profited from this though

America is, or was, the reason the U.N was cracking down on them so hard in recent years. Now Trump has made America limp, Putin has near free reign to do as he pleases.
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thelovefist
07/17/18 6:30:18 AM
#120:


TheRealDill2000 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Trump fucking embarrassed America so bad

No, the embarrassment is tied to our intelligence department. They should provide better evidence if they are going to accuse Russia of these heinous actions.

This is a bad post.
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bover_87
07/17/18 6:39:02 AM
#121:


thelovefist posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Trump fucking embarrassed America so bad

No, the embarrassment is tied to our intelligence department. They should provide better evidence if they are going to accuse Russia of these heinous actions.

This is a bad post.

look who posted it
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Agnostic420
07/17/18 6:42:46 AM
#122:


gunplagirl posted...
The punch line is they're gay

Go ahead, explain the comedic reasoning that gay people are a punch line


Just shut up.
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Funkydog
07/17/18 6:55:02 AM
#123:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
gunplagirl posted...
The punchline is still "they're in bed with each other. Two men. Hah, gross."

Except for the part where literally nobody except you (and conservatrolls) thinks this, but because you have a viewpoint than all others are invalid.

Welcome to a day in the life of negi.

You should absolutely not take her to be the standard for anything, and definitely not the rest of the lgbt movement. She's the perfect example of the crazy fringe parts of a movement.
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KiwiTerraRizing
07/17/18 8:03:54 AM
#124:


gpg is a more noxious troll than anyone. Ignore her and move on.
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mario2000
07/17/18 11:09:47 AM
#126:


damn didn't realize we were due for another gunplagirl melty
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Caution999
07/17/18 11:11:37 AM
#127:


mario2000 posted...
damn didn't realize we were due for another gunplagirl melty


she's not wrong.
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mario2000
07/17/18 11:14:19 AM
#128:


Caution999 posted...
mario2000 posted...
damn didn't realize we were due for another gunplagirl melty


she's not wrong.

are you only saying this because it's your god emperor that's the target of the joke?
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Caution999
07/17/18 11:20:13 AM
#130:


It's amazing how the party of tolerance refuses to see how that is offensive. I'm not saying some Republicans aren't just as bad...but good lord.
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ZMythos
07/17/18 11:22:57 AM
#131:


Trump's a fuckhead who should resign and take his whole regime with him. I don't care where he goes but he needs to disappear and never show his face in public.
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Nomadic View
07/17/18 11:24:09 AM
#132:


Caution999 posted...
It's amazing how the party of tolerance refuses to see how that is offensive. I'm not saying some Republicans aren't just as bad...but good lord.


This surprises you? You hold them to a much higher standard than I do.
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mario2000
07/17/18 11:34:04 AM
#133:


Caution999 posted...
It's amazing how the party of tolerance refuses to see how that is offensive. I'm not saying some Republicans aren't just as bad...but good lord.

Nomadic View posted...
Caution999 posted...
It's amazing how the party of tolerance refuses to see how that is offensive. I'm not saying some Republicans aren't just as bad...but good lord.


This surprises you? You hold them to a much higher standard than I do.

lol @ these virching soyboy SJWs
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Caution999
07/17/18 11:34:23 AM
#134:


Nomadic View posted...
Caution999 posted...
It's amazing how the party of tolerance refuses to see how that is offensive. I'm not saying some Republicans aren't just as bad...but good lord.


This surprises you? You hold them to a much higher standard than I do.


Some people are only outwardly tolerant. Who knows what anyone truly believes on the inside. And guess what? It's not restricted to their political affiliation. There's a lot of good Democrats who are truly tolerant, and there's a lot of good Republicans who are also tolerant. Then you have the fakies on both sides who pretend to be tolerant, but really aren't. And I'm sorry, but whoever made that cartoon isn't tolerant. That's the fact of the matter.

I'm sure this will get "BOTH SIDES" meme'd, but it's the truth. Determining what kind of heart a person has really has nothing to do with their political affiliation.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/17/18 12:33:02 PM
#135:


I'd never realize how much I wanted a NomadicxCaution fellatio party.

Someone should invite Zikten.
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TheRealDill2000
07/17/18 12:45:02 PM
#137:


CrimsonRage posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
I'd never realize how much I wanted a NomadicxCaution fellatio party.

Someone should invite Zikten.


i'm pretty disappointed in Nomadic. i expect trump slurping crazy from Caution and Zikten but not from him. i really thought he'd be one of the few conservatives users that would have no problem saying trump's conduct in helsinki was a problem.

Why should we take you seriously when you use terms like that?
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butthole666
07/17/18 1:40:40 PM
#138:


gunplagirl posted...
butthole666 posted...
Jesus christ, pick your fucking battles. Petty ass petulant tantrum.

Multiple queer ppl itt (myself included) telling you to shut the fuck up and you still wanna ride this. You are wrong, move on.


http://www.them.us/story/your-homophobic-trump-and-putin- are-gay-lovers-jokes-arent-funny/amp

I guess because your queerness just outqueers my own queerness? Sounds like you just want to win a pissing contest.

NibeIungsnarf posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Except these cartoons all exaggerate gay stereotypes. How you're unable to see that, I can only assume has to do with the fact that many people never consciously have to address or realize that certain things we associate with gay culture are based on stereotypes that aren't necessarily true.


Stereotypes are not automatically [word]phobic.


That "Asian kids are smarter" stereotype is still harmful as hell.

No Im just not a narcissitic pissbaby who needs to be morally superior to even the people who agree with me

Shut up already lol
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Phantom_Nook
07/17/18 2:07:42 PM
#139:


Caution999 posted...
It's amazing how the party of tolerance refuses to see how that is offensive. I'm not saying some Republicans aren't just as bad...but good lord.

Liberals make gay jokes.
Conservatives try to prevent gay people from adpoting children.

B O T H S I D E S
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Caution999
07/17/18 2:14:15 PM
#140:


Oh shit, he used the both sides meme. That really crushed my argument.

I'll pack it in.
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gunplagirl
07/17/18 2:35:44 PM
#141:


CrimsonRage posted...
gunplagirl, i know you mean well, but you have completely distracted from the main point of this topic. you're doing what people accuse the left of doing all the time: eating your own.

Heaven forbid we hold everyone to some basic standard of not being an unapologetic homophobe.
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gunplagirl
07/17/18 2:37:11 PM
#142:


Phantom_Nook posted...
Caution999 posted...
It's amazing how the party of tolerance refuses to see how that is offensive. I'm not saying some Republicans aren't just as bad...but good lord.

Liberals make gay jokes.
Conservatives try to prevent gay people from adpoting children.

B O T H S I D E S

Both are bad and we can do multiple things at once, we as humans have the capacity to do so.
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butthole666
07/17/18 2:39:02 PM
#143:


gunplagirl posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
gunplagirl, i know you mean well, but you have completely distracted from the main point of this topic. you're doing what people accuse the left of doing all the time: eating your own.

Heaven forbid we hold everyone to some basic standard of not being an unapologetic homophobe.

This is a stupid fucking argument and its only happening because your narcissistic ass needs to be the most morally superior to everyone

Just fucking stop
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Phantom_Nook
07/17/18 2:43:38 PM
#144:


https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/1019288604454129666
MORE: Trump says he meant to say in Helsinki that he saw no reason why it would not be Russia that interfered in elections


"I literally meant the opposite of what I said."
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Howl
07/17/18 2:48:16 PM
#145:


Hexenherz posted...
I wonder who Trump's interpreter is and if he's happy he got to work during that one on one session or if he was dying inside.


I wonder what kind of vetting process they undergo, because they could be potentially be discussing classified information in those sessions.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/17/18 3:19:53 PM
#146:


Phantom_Nook posted...
https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/1019288604454129666
MORE: Trump says he meant to say in Helsinki that he saw no reason why it would not be Russia that interfered in elections


"I literally meant the opposite of what I said."

Link also says he now accepts that Russia did interfere but he would totes have won anyway.

You know he fucked up when his advisors had to man up enough to get him to backpedal on the stupid diarrhea of words leaving his mouth.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/17/18 4:10:34 PM
#147:


Caution999 posted...
Oh shit, he used the both sides meme. That really crushed my argument.

I'll pack it in.


See, this is why I've been known to defend you. You admit when you're wrong and you accept the L when you've earned it.
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Kineth
07/17/18 6:35:02 PM
#148:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Caution999 posted...
Oh shit, he used the both sides meme. That really crushed my argument.

I'll pack it in.


See, this is why I've been known to defend you. You admit when you're wrong and you accept the L when you've earned it.


Straight up lies.

gunplagirl posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
gunplagirl, i know you mean well, but you have completely distracted from the main point of this topic. you're doing what people accuse the left of doing all the time: eating your own.

Heaven forbid we hold everyone to some basic standard of not being an unapologetic homophobe.


Jesus fucking Christ. Shut the fuck up with this already. Can't we just shit on Trump and Putin already?
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mistalightbulb
07/17/18 6:36:26 PM
#149:


Kineth posted...

Jesus fucking Christ. Shut the fuck up with this already. Can't we just shit on Trump and Putin already?

This is offensive to people who like scat porn
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Dash_Harber
07/17/18 7:40:39 PM
#150:


gunplagirl is just using the basic modern propaganda technique of dismissing any actual or valid criticisms by taking one comment, right or wrong, and making the whole topic a debate about that particular, unrelated issue. It works because the egos of the people arguing (understandably) won't allow them to stop arguing with the blatant troll who keeps making more and more ridiculous claims in order to engage them further, until they give up and the troll can show everyone else how their argument is legitamite and the other side just has to give up.

The topic is not about homophobia, it is about Trump's blatant treasonous apathetic attitude towards Putin's cavalier and flippant implications of meddling. Don't get distracted by ridiculous troll nitpicking. That's exactly what troll factories have been doing for the last decade, and exactly why we are all in this situation in the first place.
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dave_is_slick
07/17/18 8:40:48 PM
#151:


Kineth posted...
Straight up lies.

*whoosh*
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