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Garioshi
07/15/18 2:22:05 AM
#51:


Beat Fatman nonlethally. And with that, I'm out. Will be bumping this topic as I won't be back until Wednesday.
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Ricemills
07/15/18 2:40:39 AM
#52:


Garioshi posted...
Ricemills posted...
Garioshi posted...
Oh, his name is Vamp. Original


do you know why he's called vamp?

Because he's a Dracula homage?


not according to Kojima.
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Garioshi
07/15/18 2:54:54 AM
#53:


Ricemills posted...
Garioshi posted...
Ricemills posted...
Garioshi posted...
Oh, his name is Vamp. Original


do you know why he's called vamp?

Because he's a Dracula homage?


not according to Kojima.

u wot
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LiqiudusSnake
07/15/18 3:04:48 AM
#54:


All you people saying MGSV is the best gameplay, I think your forgetting the repetition and lack of bosses. The FOB raids are on point for stealth, but overall the game is still lacking in gameplay. Good mechanics does not make good gameplay.
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Ricemills
07/15/18 3:22:17 AM
#55:


Garioshi posted...
Ricemills posted...
Garioshi posted...
Ricemills posted...
Garioshi posted...
Oh, his name is Vamp. Original


do you know why he's called vamp?

Because he's a Dracula homage?


not according to Kojima.

u wot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpx5TW1A68I" data-time="


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Garioshi
07/15/18 3:44:10 AM
#56:


Ricemills posted...
Garioshi posted...
Ricemills posted...
Garioshi posted...
Ricemills posted...
Garioshi posted...
Oh, his name is Vamp. Original


do you know why he's called vamp?

Because he's a Dracula homage?


not according to Kojima.

u wot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpx5TW1A68I" data-time="


0:32

Pfft.
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pegusus123456
07/15/18 4:33:06 AM
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Garioshi posted...
"It's all made from currently existing technology"

Duh?

The term here means the technology is widely available. The rail gun used on Metal Gear REX, for example, would not be considered "currently existing technology" as it was a government black project and far more advanced than what is publicly available.

Garioshi posted...
FATMAN is quite the character. And an orthodox Jew for some reason.

Fatman's the weirdest MGS2 boss. And I'm not forgetting the bisexual vampire when I say that. Garioshi posted...

wait WHAT

why the FUCK is liquid back

can liquid possess ocelot

what the fuck do you mean he lives on through this arm

what the fuck is any of this

MGS3 spoilers. Ocelot's parentage makes this make more sense.

Garioshi posted...
"It's all made from currently existing technology"

Duh?

The term here means the technology is widely available. The rail gun used on Metal Gear REX, for example, would not be considered "currently existing technology" as it was a government black project and far more advanced than what is publicly available.

Garioshi posted...
FATMAN is quite the character. And an orthodox Jew for some reason.

Fatman's the weirdest MGS2 boss. And I'm not forgetting the bisexual vampire when I say that.
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Garioshi
07/15/18 9:51:16 AM
#58:


pegusus123456 posted...
The term here means the technology is widely available. The rail gun used on Metal Gear REX, for example, would not be considered "currently existing technology" as it was a government black project and far more advanced than what is publicly available.

Gotcha.
pegusus123456 posted...
Fatman's the weirdest MGS2 boss. And I'm not forgetting the bisexual vampire when I say that.

He sounds just like Jon Stewart's orthodox Jew impression.
pegusus123456 posted...
MGS3 spoilers. Ocelot's parentage makes this make more sense.

That only somewhat makes sense.
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Garioshi
07/15/18 12:26:40 PM
#59:


Continuing the hunt for Substance as I drive up to Fairfax for orientation. No game store in Fredericksburg had it.
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Shotgunnova
07/15/18 12:27:47 PM
#60:


Fatman's the weirdest MGS2 boss.
He just wanted people to laugh and grow fat. =(
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Garioshi
07/15/18 1:17:47 PM
#61:


Hey, what do you know? A store in Chantilly has a copy!
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Garioshi
07/15/18 2:25:44 PM
#62:


Got it and a Dreamcast to boot. v0jtAj5
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Shotgunnova
07/15/18 2:26:04 PM
#63:


Lucky!
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GameGodOfAll
07/15/18 2:30:26 PM
#64:


Noice.
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Smashingpmkns
07/15/18 2:34:58 PM
#65:


Garioshi posted...
Got it and a Dreamcast to boot. v0jtAj5


That dreamcast looks more like "sun damaged orange" lol nice find though.
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Garioshi
07/15/18 4:07:20 PM
#66:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Garioshi posted...
Got it and a Dreamcast to boot. v0jtAj5


That dreamcast looks more like "sun damaged orange" lol nice find though.

I dunno, it's actually a pretty nice shade. Either way, I'm not complaining about a $25 Dreamcast.
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pegusus123456
07/15/18 4:26:17 PM
#67:


Garioshi posted...
That only somewhat makes sense.

Yeah, that's MGS.
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Garioshi
07/16/18 11:50:22 AM
#68:


I just realized that Fatman's Manhattan accent is in reference to the Manhattan Project.
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foxhound101
07/17/18 1:30:26 AM
#69:


Tag, I'm enjoying this topic.
I always enjoyed the 1st half of the game more than the second half. (Except for near the end). So I'm curious to see how your opinion as your get further into the game.
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Oranges2Oranges
07/17/18 7:59:30 AM
#70:


Tag since this is my favorite game and I love seeing the reactions to the end sequence
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Garioshi
07/17/18 4:07:24 PM
#71:


Might be able to continue tonight, but I wouldn't count on it.
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DevsBro
07/17/18 4:21:11 PM
#72:


With how hard you seem to be falling for absolutely everything the game sets up, I feel like this will be interesting in a few posts.
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Garioshi
07/17/18 4:21:42 PM
#73:


DevsBro posted...
With how hard you seem to be falling for absolutely everything the game sets up, I feel like this will be interesting in a few posts.

I'm a curious guy, what can I say?
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NinjaWarrior455
07/17/18 4:40:28 PM
#74:


Easily the best game in than franchise (although I haven't played Phantom Pain so I can't form a complete opinion).
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Garioshi
07/17/18 10:14:48 PM
#75:


All right, I'm finally back home. Let's continue.
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Garioshi
07/17/18 10:43:34 PM
#76:


you're that ninja...

The la-li-lu-le-lo? What the hell even is that?

Is it just me or are the codec bars less fluid than in MGS1?

Ah, so that's where all of these mechanics in MGS3 come from. Makes everything much more natural.

Oh boy, Raiden won't look ridiculous now?

i'm sorry why is there a nuke here

i'm sorry why is there another metal gear here

The similarities here are getting really stupid.

These mines are actually the worst.

Ooh, that's Liquid's body. And Ocelot amputated his right arm and attached Liquid's, for some reason. Nice foreshadowing.

Wait, what? I never got noticed before. And my uniform suddenly unequipped itself, what the hell?

Okay, so I was lulled into a false sense of security. Great, why not?

Wait, why was I detected by the camera when I'm wearing the terrorist uniform? This is some really bad signposting.
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Garioshi
07/17/18 10:52:28 PM
#77:


Where the fuck do I get an AK-74?
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Garioshi
07/17/18 11:07:27 PM
#78:


Just realized that Jack and Rose are in reference to the Titanic. Hmm....

The aerial needs to have an active hitbox way longer than it actually does.

Really not a fan of how close you need to be to hold someone up.

How can I progress when the bridge is out?
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TheDarkCircle
07/17/18 11:09:24 PM
#79:


Garioshi posted...
Just realized that Jack and Rose are in reference to the Titanic. Hmm....



Yeah Kojima is a fucking hack
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LedZeppelin
07/17/18 11:11:11 PM
#80:


@TheDarkCircle posted...
Gameplay wise it's my favorite in the series behind MGSV. The actual story is pretty good, but Kojima's masturbatory musings on existence, the future of humanity and technology are dumb as fuck.

wow bro id love to see you come up with something better. mgs2 is a masterpiece in all aspects and youre just salty for some reason
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TheDarkCircle
07/17/18 11:12:55 PM
#81:


LedZeppelin posted...
@TheDarkCircle posted...
Gameplay wise it's my favorite in the series behind MGSV. The actual story is pretty good, but Kojima's masturbatory musings on existence, the future of humanity and technology are dumb as fuck.

wow bro id love to see you come up with something better. mgs2 is a masterpiece in all aspects and youre just salty for some reason


imagine believing this is even worth discussing
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LedZeppelin
07/17/18 11:30:43 PM
#82:


TheDarkCircle posted...
LedZeppelin posted...
@TheDarkCircle posted...
Gameplay wise it's my favorite in the series behind MGSV. The actual story is pretty good, but Kojima's masturbatory musings on existence, the future of humanity and technology are dumb as fuck.

wow bro id love to see you come up with something better. mgs2 is a masterpiece in all aspects and youre just salty for some reason


imagine believing this is even worth discussing

you brought it up so apparently it is. im just refuting the crap you said.
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Garioshi
07/17/18 11:40:15 PM
#83:


I fucking HATE running off a ledge and dying because Raiden has to take an arc to turn around. Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?

Okay, fuck this room. The EF connecting bridge is actual cancer. Instant death, mines that are hard to navigate even if you know where they are, and CYPHERs that can see you from fucking anywhere.

TOUCHING an enemy removes my disguise? What bullshit is this?

Okay, I'm done for tonight. There's only so much bullshit I can take.
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NinjaWarrior455
07/17/18 11:42:36 PM
#84:


If you crawl then you can collect the mines and they won't go off. It's an easy way to clear them if you don't want to navigate or use the mine scanner.
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winged_weltall
07/17/18 11:46:47 PM
#85:


TheDarkCircle posted...
For me ranking wise

Gameplay:
MGSV
MGS2
MGS3
MGS1
MGS4

Story:
MGS1
MGS3
MGS2
MGS4
MGSV


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Garioshi
07/17/18 11:48:20 PM
#86:


NinjaWarrior455 posted...
If you crawl then you can collect the mines and they won't go off. It's an easy way to clear them if you don't want to navigate or use the mine scanner.

Since when was this a thing?
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Ricemills
07/17/18 11:57:07 PM
#87:


Garioshi posted...

The la-li-lu-le-lo? What the hell even is that


its missing in translation.
Japanese alphabet has no la-li-lu-le-lo.
technically it means "the unmentionable" or something.
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pegusus123456
07/18/18 2:27:43 AM
#88:


Garioshi posted...
NinjaWarrior455 posted...
If you crawl then you can collect the mines and they won't go off. It's an easy way to clear them if you don't want to navigate or use the mine scanner.

Since when was this a thing?

I think since MGS1, but I played Twin Snakes which was released after MGS2.

So maybe just in TTS.

Ricemills posted...
Garioshi posted...

The la-li-lu-le-lo? What the hell even is that


its missing in translation.
Japanese alphabet has no la-li-lu-le-lo.
technically it means "the unmentionable" or something.

I'm....pretty sure that's not the case. Mostly because I doubt the Japanese wouldn't have a phrase that relies on letters not in their alphabet. Symbolically, you're probably right and that's why Kojima chose those syllables, but I don't think it's literally a Japanese phrase that wasn't translated.
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3khc
07/18/18 2:40:00 AM
#89:


TheDarkCircle posted...
For me ranking wise

Gameplay:
MGSV
MGS3
MGS4
MGS2
MGS1

Story:
MGS3
MGS1
MGS2
MGS4
MGSV

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Garioshi
07/18/18 6:01:13 PM
#90:


Starting back up. Hopefully this break will make me not suck.
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DevsBro
07/18/18 6:54:27 PM
#91:


Garioshi posted...
Wait, why was I detected by the camera when I'm wearing the terrorist uniform? This is some really bad signposting.

Garioshi posted...
Where the f*** do I get an AK-74?

lmao
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Garioshi
07/18/18 7:04:24 PM
#92:


Think I'm gonna have to look up how to get past this retinal scanner.

Oh, so you have to grab him, but not if he's asleep, and then not only drag him over to the scanner, but make him face it? This might not be so bad if shooting didn't suck and accidentally walking into the enemy automatically fails you, but this is some bullshit as it stands.

Got caught by... I don't know. I just walked into a guard's field of view (with an AK and the BDU on, mind you,) and a failure cutscene played.

This is still pretty good tension, though, gotta admit.

Pretty sure I found Ames, but I don't know what to do.

"Respond in some way" really doesn't help, since that could be anyone who responds in some way.

I got failed out of nowhere again. What the fuck?

At least the dialog changes to express my frustration.

The hell does a pacemaker even sound like?

I checked this motherfucker 3 times and this cutscene didn't trigger.
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DevsBro
07/18/18 7:14:17 PM
#93:


The pacemaker makes a beep sound.

You need to point the d mic at him and push triangle.
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Garioshi
07/18/18 7:55:14 PM
#94:


Both of us were sent in my the la-li-lu-le-lo? Hm, looks like someone's lying to us~

Hi, not-Snake 2.0.

Actually gonna take a swing at who the Snakes are. Pliskin is Solid Snake, Liquid is dead and his arm is grafted onto Ocelot (he definitely had an arm transplant), and Solidus is claiming to be Solid Snake. Ocelot was conspiring with Solidus Snake in MGS1, so this only makes sense.

Oh shit, here comes Oce-oh i'm dead

FoxDIE? This is getting spicy.

That was pretty intense.

Sniper scope? I'm supposed to have a sniper rifle? The fuck? Guess I have to backtrack again...

Do I just backtrack to Strut F every single time I get a new card?

Picked up 4 new weapons, not a bad trip at all.

Wait, the CYPHER has Semtex and a detonator on it?

Really wish there were some indicator that all the detonators were destroyed.

Why is the CYPHER just blowing up when I shoot the detonator? I've destroyed it before, so why now?

Ah, that last detonator's placement was clever. Frustrating, but clever.
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andel
07/18/18 8:00:27 PM
#95:


2 remains my favorite of the series but also had the best story imo
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NinjaWarrior455
07/18/18 8:08:20 PM
#96:


The fun part about that sniper sequence is that the number of bombs is dependent on the difficulty.
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Garioshi
07/18/18 8:23:41 PM
#97:


AYYYYYY OTACON MY BOY

Called it.

yo what the fuck

Solidus, winners don't do drugs.

Man, the Stinger? Every boss fight from now on is going to blow, isn't it?

Well, that was easy.

He's dea-WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

Holy shit, Vamp is Jesus!

Called it.

Nice character development, Snake.

Hold the fuck up, Raiden, why are you calling Snake and Otacon terrorists for destroying nuclear weapons after being a complete fanboy for the last 7 hours?

Wait, why do I not instantly fall off of ledges NOW? Come the fuck on.

Oh, never mind, I do instantly fall off of ledges. Though only sometimes, apparently.
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Garioshi
07/18/18 8:24:02 PM
#98:


NinjaWarrior455 posted...
The fun part about that sniper sequence is that the number of bombs is dependent on the difficulty.

Ooh, that's fun. Can't imagine what hell Extreme is.
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DevsBro
07/18/18 8:38:13 PM
#99:


Garioshi posted...
NinjaWarrior455 posted...
The fun part about that sniper sequence is that the number of bombs is dependent on the difficulty.

Ooh, that's fun. Can't imagine what hell Extreme is.

It took FOREVER to find the last couple n extreme tbh.
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The_Ivory_Man
07/18/18 8:46:41 PM
#100:


Yeah MGS2 is legitimately my favorite.

1,2, and 3 are in a totally different league than the other titles though.

Shows you how much the other writer dropping out affected things.
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