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gunplagirl 07/13/18 5:12:59 PM #51:	FLUFFYGERM posted... @gunplagirl posted... Capitalism was never intended to benefit the many, but rather the few and if it consequentially benefits the many then adjustments would be made to change that. https://www.economist.com/leaders/2013/06/01/towards-the-end-of-poverty https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Now-Science-Humanism-Progress/dp/0525427570 I guess holds up if we redefine poverty and ignore that at least under feudalism, people owned their houses and had more vacation days than the average American worker. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905024115] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Capitalism was never intended to benefit the many, but rather the few and if it consequentially benefits the many then adjustments would be made to change that.</quote> https://www.economist.com/leaders/2013/06/01/towards-the-end-of-poverty https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Now-Science-Humanism-Progress/dp/0525427570</quote> I guess holds up if we redefine poverty and ignore that at least under feudalism, people owned their houses and had more vacation days than the average American worker.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nemu 07/13/18 5:15:42 PM #53:	PiOverlord posted... nemu posted... PiOverlord posted... nemu posted... How do doctors work in a communist society? There will always be some people who will do it out of the goodness of their hearts, but that is a super small number of people. If everyone is in the same position economically, what incentive is there to spend years and years studying compared to just chilling out in some menial position? A.I and other machinery will be able to replace many of the jobs we require from our doctors and nurses now. Organic humans will be largely unnecessary. For menial jobs, yes, but we are hundreds of years away from automated doctors. If we're just barely getting to the point of automated driving being commonplace, it will be a while before we can trust a machine to transplant a heart. The best we can do right now is provide machines to help them. The advancement of technology like A.I is growing at an exponential rate. Don't use linear models to describe where A.I will be. Our brains will be dissected and replicated in a much more advanced, efficient way than we could ever dream of. They will quickly make us obsolete, and it will happen before we even realized they could get that far. After like ten+ years of existing, Google Translate still has trouble with Japanese. Speech to text and text to speech are still very imperfect. We are not advancing that quickly. <cite>nemu posted [p:905024253] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>How do doctors work in a communist society? There will always be some people who will do it out of the goodness of their hearts, but that is a super small number of people. If everyone is in the same position economically, what incentive is there to spend years and years studying compared to just chilling out in some menial position?</quote> A.I and other machinery will be able to replace many of the jobs we require from our doctors and nurses now. Organic humans will be largely unnecessary.</quote> For menial jobs, yes, but we are hundreds of years away from automated doctors. If we're just barely getting to the point of automated driving being commonplace, it will be a while before we can trust a machine to transplant a heart. The best we can do right now is provide machines to help them.</quote> The advancement of technology like A.I is growing at an exponential rate. Don't use linear models to describe where A.I will be. Our brains will be dissected and replicated in a much more advanced, efficient way than we could ever dream of. They will quickly make us obsolete, and it will happen before we even realized they could get that far.</quote> After like ten+ years of existing, Google Translate still has trouble with Japanese. Speech to text and text to speech are still very imperfect. We are not advancing that quickly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 07/13/18 5:17:54 PM #54:	16-BITTER posted... PiOverlord posted... nemu posted... How do doctors work in a communist society? There will always be some people who will do it out of the goodness of their hearts, but that is a super small number of people. If everyone is in the same position economically, what incentive is there to spend years and years studying compared to just chilling out in some menial position? A.I and other machinery will be able to replace many of the jobs we require from our doctors and nurses now. Organic humans will be largely unnecessary. nemu posted... PiOverlord posted... nemu posted... How do doctors work in a communist society? There will always be some people who will do it out of the goodness of their hearts, but that is a super small number of people. If everyone is in the same position economically, what incentive is there to spend years and years studying compared to just chilling out in some menial position? A.I and other machinery will be able to replace many of the jobs we require from our doctors and nurses now. Organic humans will be largely unnecessary. For menial jobs, yes, but we are hundreds of years away from automated doctors. If we're just barely getting to the point of automated driving being commonplace, it will be a while before we can trust a machine to transplant a heart. The best we can do right now is provide machines to help them. His ignorance of automation's application and limitations would be astounding if I thought this was anything more than a lame gimmick.. You are an organic human, blinded by your own internal superiority complex over all machinery. You refuse to believe your brain is unable to be made in a lab because you believe it is something special, something that is perfect. Humans are soon to be made from metal and wires, not flesh and neurons because that will be the next step of human evolution. You will be made a fool, and you can choose to live with a newfound feeling of inferiority, or decide to live as a free man, being able to fulfill your own desires rather than that of your greedy bosses on top. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 26, 500th posts: 19; PiO ATTN: 2 RotM wins 1, Rejoice my comrades, utopia awaits once Capitalism dies and communism rises. <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:905024367] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>16-BITTER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>How do doctors work in a communist society? There will always be some people who will do it out of the goodness of their hearts, but that is a super small number of people. If everyone is in the same position economically, what incentive is there to spend years and years studying compared to just chilling out in some menial position?</quote> A.I and other machinery will be able to replace many of the jobs we require from our doctors and nurses now. Organic humans will be largely unnecessary.</quote> <cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>How do doctors work in a communist society? There will always be some people who will do it out of the goodness of their hearts, but that is a super small number of people. If everyone is in the same position economically, what incentive is there to spend years and years studying compared to just chilling out in some menial position?</quote> A.I and other machinery will be able to replace many of the jobs we require from our doctors and nurses now. Organic humans will be largely unnecessary.</quote> For menial jobs, yes, but we are hundreds of years away from automated doctors. If we're just barely getting to the point of automated driving being commonplace, it will be a while before we can trust a machine to transplant a heart. The best we can do right now is provide machines to help them.</quote> His ignorance of automation's application and limitations would be astounding if I thought this was anything more than a lame gimmick..</quote> You are an organic human, blinded by your own internal superiority complex over all machinery. You refuse to believe your brain is unable to be made in a lab because you believe it is something special, something that is perfect. Humans are soon to be made from metal and wires, not flesh and neurons because that will be the next step of human evolution. You will be made a fool, and you can choose to live with a newfound feeling of inferiority, or decide to live as a free man, being able to fulfill your own desires rather than that of your greedy bosses on top.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 5:18:27 PM #55:	gunplagirl posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... @gunplagirl posted... Capitalism was never intended to benefit the many, but rather the few and if it consequentially benefits the many then adjustments would be made to change that. https://www.economist.com/leaders/2013/06/01/towards-the-end-of-poverty https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Now-Science-Humanism-Progress/dp/0525427570 I guess holds up if we redefine poverty and ignore that at least under feudalism, people owned their houses and had more vacation days than the average American worker. they didn't redefine poverty. the standard of living has risen astronomically in the last 150 years thanks to capitalism. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905024395] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Capitalism was never intended to benefit the many, but rather the few and if it consequentially benefits the many then adjustments would be made to change that.</quote> https://www.economist.com/leaders/2013/06/01/towards-the-end-of-poverty https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Now-Science-Humanism-Progress/dp/0525427570</quote> I guess holds up if we redefine poverty and ignore that at least under feudalism, people owned their houses and had more vacation days than the average American worker.</quote> they didn't redefine poverty. the standard of living has risen astronomically in the last 150 years thanks to capitalism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/13/18 5:18:52 PM #56:	nemu posted... How do doctors work in a communist society? There will always be some people who will do it out of the goodness of their hearts, but that is a super small number of people. If everyone is in the same position economically, what incentive is there to spend years and years studying compared to just chilling out in some menial position? I mean, considering the origins of medical care were unrelated to receiving payment but rather to help keep citizens of your city healthy so that they can work and keep things functioning (like farmers continuing to farm, women not dying in childbirth, soldiers not being ill and unable to defend the premises from a roving gang of bandits), I mean. They did it because they understood there was a need for it in society. Much the same reason people started building permanent structures to live in, because people realized there was a need for it in society and that the benefits outweighed the strain of using temporary shelters or caves for a growing population. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905024415] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>How do doctors work in a communist society? There will always be some people who will do it out of the goodness of their hearts, but that is a super small number of people. If everyone is in the same position economically, what incentive is there to spend years and years studying compared to just chilling out in some menial position?</quote> I mean, considering the origins of medical care were unrelated to receiving payment but rather to help keep citizens of your city healthy so that they can work and keep things functioning (like farmers continuing to farm, women not dying in childbirth, soldiers not being ill and unable to defend the premises from a roving gang of bandits), I mean. They did it because they understood there was a need for it in society. Much the same reason people started building permanent structures to live in, because people realized there was a need for it in society and that the benefits outweighed the strain of using temporary shelters or caves for a growing population.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 07/13/18 5:19:35 PM #57:	PiOverlord posted... 16-BITTER posted... PiOverlord posted... nemu posted... How do doctors work in a communist society? There will always be some people who will do it out of the goodness of their hearts, but that is a super small number of people. If everyone is in the same position economically, what incentive is there to spend years and years studying compared to just chilling out in some menial position? A.I and other machinery will be able to replace many of the jobs we require from our doctors and nurses now. Organic humans will be largely unnecessary. nemu posted... PiOverlord posted... nemu posted... How do doctors work in a communist society? There will always be some people who will do it out of the goodness of their hearts, but that is a super small number of people. If everyone is in the same position economically, what incentive is there to spend years and years studying compared to just chilling out in some menial position? A.I and other machinery will be able to replace many of the jobs we require from our doctors and nurses now. Organic humans will be largely unnecessary. For menial jobs, yes, but we are hundreds of years away from automated doctors. If we're just barely getting to the point of automated driving being commonplace, it will be a while before we can trust a machine to transplant a heart. The best we can do right now is provide machines to help them. His ignorance of automation's application and limitations would be astounding if I thought this was anything more than a lame gimmick.. You are an organic human, blinded by your own internal superiority complex over all machinery. You refuse to believe your brain is unable to be made in a lab because you believe it is something special, something that is perfect. Humans are soon to be made from metal and wires, not flesh and neurons because that will be the next step of human evolution. You will be made a fool, and you can choose to live with a newfound feeling of inferiority, or decide to live as a free man, being able to fulfill your own desires rather than that of your greedy bosses on top. You're like the person living fifty years ago who thought the Jetsons would be a reality by the 2000s, or the people who thought hoverboards would be a thing after Back to the Future. <cite>nemu posted [p:905024441] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>16-BITTER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>How do doctors work in a communist society? There will always be some people who will do it out of the goodness of their hearts, but that is a super small number of people. If everyone is in the same position economically, what incentive is there to spend years and years studying compared to just chilling out in some menial position?</quote> A.I and other machinery will be able to replace many of the jobs we require from our doctors and nurses now. Organic humans will be largely unnecessary.</quote> <cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>How do doctors work in a communist society? There will always be some people who will do it out of the goodness of their hearts, but that is a super small number of people. If everyone is in the same position economically, what incentive is there to spend years and years studying compared to just chilling out in some menial position?</quote> A.I and other machinery will be able to replace many of the jobs we require from our doctors and nurses now. Organic humans will be largely unnecessary.</quote> For menial jobs, yes, but we are hundreds of years away from automated doctors. If we're just barely getting to the point of automated driving being commonplace, it will be a while before we can trust a machine to transplant a heart. The best we can do right now is provide machines to help them.</quote> His ignorance of automation's application and limitations would be astounding if I thought this was anything more than a lame gimmick..</quote> You are an organic human, blinded by your own internal superiority complex over all machinery. You refuse to believe your brain is unable to be made in a lab because you believe it is something special, something that is perfect. Humans are soon to be made from metal and wires, not flesh and neurons because that will be the next step of human evolution. You will be made a fool, and you can choose to live with a newfound feeling of inferiority, or decide to live as a free man, being able to fulfill your own desires rather than that of your greedy bosses on top.</quote> You're like the person living fifty years ago who thought the Jetsons would be a reality by the 2000s, or the people who thought hoverboards would be a thing after Back to the Future.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Orlando_Jordan 07/13/18 5:19:51 PM #58:	PiOverlord posted... Orlando_Jordan posted... PiOverlord posted... Orlando_Jordan posted... The Unites States is the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world "Capitalism isn't working! We should convert to communism like the USSR did before they collapsed and stopped existing. It just makes sense." A few people control most of the wealth and nearly all the power. The common man like me and you...we are left with nothing. That isn't a working society, that is a greedy society that will sooner break down than what I propose. Slowly advance technology, let capitalism strangle itself, and use the technology to create a much more efficient communist society that cares about us, and gives us all equal power. Face it, capitalism rewards those who are intelligent, hard-working, and adaptable. Why should NEETs be coddled? Communism is just going to reward people who are drains on society. Capitalism rewards many who are born into wealthy families who get resources you and I could never dream of. Congrats, you got into Harvard...after being given the best resources available, and having previous family so they give you unfair admission based on family history and wealth rather than actual skill. Instead of complaining that others get advantages, you should put in the work to be a self-made wealthy person. But you'll just say it's impossible even though others put in the work and make it happen. --- i5-7600K 3.8 GHz \| MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB \| MSI H110M \| 4GB DDR4 RAM \| Seagate 6TB HDD \| Coolmax 500W <cite>Orlando_Jordan posted [p:905024453] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote>The Unites States is the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world "Capitalism isn't working! We should convert to communism like the USSR did before they collapsed and stopped existing. It just makes sense."</quote> A few people control most of the wealth and nearly all the power. The common man like me and you...we are left with nothing. That isn't a working society, that is a greedy society that will sooner break down than what I propose. Slowly advance technology, let capitalism strangle itself, and use the technology to create a much more efficient communist society that cares about us, and gives us all equal power.</quote> Face it, capitalism rewards those who are intelligent, hard-working, and adaptable. Why should NEETs be coddled? Communism is just going to reward people who are drains on society.</quote> Capitalism rewards many who are born into wealthy families who get resources you and I could never dream of. Congrats, you got into Harvard...after being given the best resources available, and having previous family so they give you unfair admission based on family history and wealth rather than actual skill.</quote> Instead of complaining that others get advantages, you should put in the work to be a self-made wealthy person. But you'll just say it's impossible even though others put in the work and make it happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/13/18 5:21:25 PM #59:	FLUFFYGERM posted... gunplagirl posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... @gunplagirl posted... Capitalism was never intended to benefit the many, but rather the few and if it consequentially benefits the many then adjustments would be made to change that. https://www.economist.com/leaders/2013/06/01/towards-the-end-of-poverty https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Now-Science-Humanism-Progress/dp/0525427570 I guess holds up if we redefine poverty and ignore that at least under feudalism, people owned their houses and had more vacation days than the average American worker. they didn't redefine poverty. the standard of living has risen astronomically in the last 150 years thanks to capitalism. I mean, people aren't dying of disease as frequently or from poisoning but the rate of homelessness is kind of disturbing because we have more houses in the US not being used than total permanently homeless individuals. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night and avoid confronting the realization that capitalism is a tool for the rich to strangle the poor with. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905024517] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Capitalism was never intended to benefit the many, but rather the few and if it consequentially benefits the many then adjustments would be made to change that.</quote> https://www.economist.com/leaders/2013/06/01/towards-the-end-of-poverty https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Now-Science-Humanism-Progress/dp/0525427570</quote> I guess holds up if we redefine poverty and ignore that at least under feudalism, people owned their houses and had more vacation days than the average American worker.</quote> they didn't redefine poverty. the standard of living has risen astronomically in the last 150 years thanks to capitalism.</quote> I mean, people aren't dying of disease as frequently or from poisoning but the rate of homelessness is kind of disturbing because we have more houses in the US not being used than total permanently homeless individuals. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night and avoid confronting the realization that capitalism is a tool for the rich to strangle the poor with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 07/13/18 5:23:03 PM #60:	gunplagirl posted... nemu posted... How do doctors work in a communist society? There will always be some people who will do it out of the goodness of their hearts, but that is a super small number of people. If everyone is in the same position economically, what incentive is there to spend years and years studying compared to just chilling out in some menial position? I mean, considering the origins of medical care were unrelated to receiving payment but rather to help keep citizens of your city healthy so that they can work and keep things functioning (like farmers continuing to farm, women not dying in childbirth, soldiers not being ill and unable to defend the premises from a roving gang of bandits), I mean. They did it because they understood there was a need for it in society. Much the same reason people started building permanent structures to live in, because people realized there was a need for it in society and that the benefits outweighed the strain of using temporary shelters or caves for a growing population. That's on the micro level though. Back when smaller communities were a thing, it would make sense that the community would come together to deal with issues like that. The problem is that now our world is so saturated with people that the kind of caring communities from the past are gone. There is no way in a world with billions of people, in a world where being a doctor is way more complicated than it was in the past, that all the people required to care for the world could do it for basic income. <cite>nemu posted [p:905024598] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>How do doctors work in a communist society? There will always be some people who will do it out of the goodness of their hearts, but that is a super small number of people. If everyone is in the same position economically, what incentive is there to spend years and years studying compared to just chilling out in some menial position?</quote> I mean, considering the origins of medical care were unrelated to receiving payment but rather to help keep citizens of your city healthy so that they can work and keep things functioning (like farmers continuing to farm, women not dying in childbirth, soldiers not being ill and unable to defend the premises from a roving gang of bandits), I mean. They did it because they understood there was a need for it in society. Much the same reason people started building permanent structures to live in, because people realized there was a need for it in society and that the benefits outweighed the strain of using temporary shelters or caves for a growing population.</quote> That's on the micro level though. Back when smaller communities were a thing, it would make sense that the community would come together to deal with issues like that. The problem is that now our world is so saturated with people that the kind of caring communities from the past are gone. There is no way in a world with billions of people, in a world where being a doctor is way more complicated than it was in the past, that all the people required to care for the world could do it for basic income.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/13/18 5:23:46 PM #61:	gunplagirl posted... capitalism is a tool for the rich to strangle the poor with As opposed to what, the other way around? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:905024638] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>capitalism is a tool for the rich to strangle the poor with</quote> As opposed to what, the other way around?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 07/13/18 5:24:10 PM #62:	real communism has never been tried i know this because i myself know exactly how it should have been done. if it were me in charge, you better believe i'd do it right and if anyone got out of line and didn't want to do it my way...well id take care of them <cite>Romes187 posted [p:905024654] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote>real communism has never been tried i know this because i myself know exactly how it should have been done. if it were me in charge, you better believe i'd do it right and if anyone got out of line and didn't want to do it my way...well id take care of them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/13/18 5:25:50 PM #63:	Orlando_Jordan posted... PiOverlord posted... Orlando_Jordan posted... PiOverlord posted... Orlando_Jordan posted... The Unites States is the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world "Capitalism isn't working! We should convert to communism like the USSR did before they collapsed and stopped existing. It just makes sense." A few people control most of the wealth and nearly all the power. The common man like me and you...we are left with nothing. That isn't a working society, that is a greedy society that will sooner break down than what I propose. Slowly advance technology, let capitalism strangle itself, and use the technology to create a much more efficient communist society that cares about us, and gives us all equal power. Face it, capitalism rewards those who are intelligent, hard-working, and adaptable. Why should NEETs be coddled? Communism is just going to reward people who are drains on society. Capitalism rewards many who are born into wealthy families who get resources you and I could never dream of. Congrats, you got into Harvard...after being given the best resources available, and having previous family so they give you unfair admission based on family history and wealth rather than actual skill. Instead of complaining that others get advantages, you should put in the work to be a self-made wealthy person. But you'll just say it's impossible even though others put in the work and make it happen. The system is rigged so that the majority will never be able to do so. Even among top students across high schools around the nation, not all will be able to get in to their school of choice. And with tuition rising and the value of a degree dropping, it's basically forcing the poor to take on debt for a massively devalued diploma. And no, having less people getting degrees won't actually raise the value of a diploma anymore when there's so many out there. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905024721] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote>The Unites States is the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world "Capitalism isn't working! We should convert to communism like the USSR did before they collapsed and stopped existing. It just makes sense."</quote> A few people control most of the wealth and nearly all the power. The common man like me and you...we are left with nothing. That isn't a working society, that is a greedy society that will sooner break down than what I propose. Slowly advance technology, let capitalism strangle itself, and use the technology to create a much more efficient communist society that cares about us, and gives us all equal power.</quote> Face it, capitalism rewards those who are intelligent, hard-working, and adaptable. Why should NEETs be coddled? Communism is just going to reward people who are drains on society.</quote> Capitalism rewards many who are born into wealthy families who get resources you and I could never dream of. Congrats, you got into Harvard...after being given the best resources available, and having previous family so they give you unfair admission based on family history and wealth rather than actual skill.</quote> Instead of complaining that others get advantages, you should put in the work to be a self-made wealthy person. But you'll just say it's impossible even though others put in the work and make it happen.</quote> The system is rigged so that the majority will never be able to do so. Even among top students across high schools around the nation, not all will be able to get in to their school of choice. And with tuition rising and the value of a degree dropping, it's basically forcing the poor to take on debt for a massively devalued diploma. And no, having less people getting degrees won't actually raise the value of a diploma anymore when there's so many out there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 5:26:00 PM #64:	gunplagirl posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... gunplagirl posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... @gunplagirl posted... Capitalism was never intended to benefit the many, but rather the few and if it consequentially benefits the many then adjustments would be made to change that. https://www.economist.com/leaders/2013/06/01/towards-the-end-of-poverty https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Now-Science-Humanism-Progress/dp/0525427570 I guess holds up if we redefine poverty and ignore that at least under feudalism, people owned their houses and had more vacation days than the average American worker. they didn't redefine poverty. the standard of living has risen astronomically in the last 150 years thanks to capitalism. I mean, people aren't dying of disease as frequently or from poisoning but the rate of homelessness is kind of disturbing because we have more houses in the US not being used than total permanently homeless individuals. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night and avoid confronting the realization that capitalism is a tool for the rich to strangle the poor with. Capitalism is demonstrably not strangling the poor. And the standard of living has increased in every objectively good measurement in the last 150 years, not just in terms of disease or poisons. Also, take a look at this post where it talks about how it's nonsense to talk about "the rich" or "the poor" as if they're longlasting groups of people rather than transient: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76798471/904920650 And note that homelessness in the US has been declining steadily, even through the Great Recession, and will continue to decline. https://www.statista.com/statistics/555795/estimated-number-of-homeless-people-in-the-us/ and homelessness is mostly a problem in the areas where rent is artificially high due to leftists restricting how much new housing can be built. places like san francisco, for example. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905024729] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Capitalism was never intended to benefit the many, but rather the few and if it consequentially benefits the many then adjustments would be made to change that.</quote> https://www.economist.com/leaders/2013/06/01/towards-the-end-of-poverty https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Now-Science-Humanism-Progress/dp/0525427570</quote> I guess holds up if we redefine poverty and ignore that at least under feudalism, people owned their houses and had more vacation days than the average American worker.</quote> they didn't redefine poverty. the standard of living has risen astronomically in the last 150 years thanks to capitalism.</quote> I mean, people aren't dying of disease as frequently or from poisoning but the rate of homelessness is kind of disturbing because we have more houses in the US not being used than total permanently homeless individuals. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night and avoid confronting the realization that capitalism is a tool for the rich to strangle the poor with.</quote> Capitalism is demonstrably not strangling the poor. And the standard of living has increased in every objectively good measurement in the last 150 years, not just in terms of disease or poisons. Also, take a look at this post where it talks about how it's nonsense to talk about "the rich" or "the poor" as if they're longlasting groups of people rather than transient: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76798471/904920650 And note that homelessness in the US has been declining steadily, even through the Great Recession, and will continue to decline. https://www.statista.com/statistics/555795/estimated-number-of-homeless-people-in-the-us/ and homelessness is mostly a problem in the areas where rent is artificially high due to leftists restricting how much new housing can be built. places like san francisco, for example.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/13/18 5:29:22 PM #65:	Questionmarktarius posted... gunplagirl posted... capitalism is a tool for the rich to strangle the poor with As opposed to what, the other way around? I mean, any system that allows individuals to have more wealth than the collective sum of the majority of their countrymen is pretty immoral. Big Tex was born into wealth and somehow is more deserving of having wealth (he cannot possibly spend in his lifetime even squandering it away) than the majority of his countrymen who he will work to ensure pay more for less every successive year. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905024908] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>capitalism is a tool for the rich to strangle the poor with</quote> As opposed to what, the other way around?</quote> I mean, any system that allows individuals to have more wealth than the collective sum of the majority of their countrymen is pretty immoral. Big Tex was born into wealth and somehow is more deserving of having wealth (he cannot possibly spend in his lifetime even squandering it away) than the majority of his countrymen who he will work to ensure pay more for less every successive year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Orlando_Jordan 07/13/18 5:29:51 PM #66:	gunplagirl posted... Orlando_Jordan posted... PiOverlord posted... Orlando_Jordan posted... PiOverlord posted... Orlando_Jordan posted... The Unites States is the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world "Capitalism isn't working! We should convert to communism like the USSR did before they collapsed and stopped existing. It just makes sense." A few people control most of the wealth and nearly all the power. The common man like me and you...we are left with nothing. That isn't a working society, that is a greedy society that will sooner break down than what I propose. Slowly advance technology, let capitalism strangle itself, and use the technology to create a much more efficient communist society that cares about us, and gives us all equal power. Face it, capitalism rewards those who are intelligent, hard-working, and adaptable. Why should NEETs be coddled? Communism is just going to reward people who are drains on society. Capitalism rewards many who are born into wealthy families who get resources you and I could never dream of. Congrats, you got into Harvard...after being given the best resources available, and having previous family so they give you unfair admission based on family history and wealth rather than actual skill. Instead of complaining that others get advantages, you should put in the work to be a self-made wealthy person. But you'll just say it's impossible even though others put in the work and make it happen. The system is rigged so that the majority will never be able to do so. Even among top students across high schools around the nation, not all will be able to get in to their school of choice. And with tuition rising and the value of a degree dropping, it's basically forcing the poor to take on debt for a massively devalued diploma. And no, having less people getting degrees won't actually raise the value of a diploma anymore when there's so many out there. There are those who make excuses for why they can't succeed, and those who never give up until they do succeed. --- i5-7600K 3.8 GHz \| MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB \| MSI H110M \| 4GB DDR4 RAM \| Seagate 6TB HDD \| Coolmax 500W <cite>Orlando_Jordan posted [p:905024935] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote>The Unites States is the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world "Capitalism isn't working! We should convert to communism like the USSR did before they collapsed and stopped existing. It just makes sense."</quote> A few people control most of the wealth and nearly all the power. The common man like me and you...we are left with nothing. That isn't a working society, that is a greedy society that will sooner break down than what I propose. Slowly advance technology, let capitalism strangle itself, and use the technology to create a much more efficient communist society that cares about us, and gives us all equal power.</quote> Face it, capitalism rewards those who are intelligent, hard-working, and adaptable. Why should NEETs be coddled? Communism is just going to reward people who are drains on society.</quote> Capitalism rewards many who are born into wealthy families who get resources you and I could never dream of. Congrats, you got into Harvard...after being given the best resources available, and having previous family so they give you unfair admission based on family history and wealth rather than actual skill.</quote> Instead of complaining that others get advantages, you should put in the work to be a self-made wealthy person. But you'll just say it's impossible even though others put in the work and make it happen.</quote> The system is rigged so that the majority will never be able to do so. Even among top students across high schools around the nation, not all will be able to get in to their school of choice. And with tuition rising and the value of a degree dropping, it's basically forcing the poor to take on debt for a massively devalued diploma. And no, having less people getting degrees won't actually raise the value of a diploma anymore when there's so many out there.</quote> There are those who make excuses for why they can't succeed, and those who never give up until they do succeed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 07/13/18 5:30:12 PM #67:	FLUFFYGERM posted... gunplagirl posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... gunplagirl posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... @gunplagirl posted... Capitalism was never intended to benefit the many, but rather the few and if it consequentially benefits the many then adjustments would be made to change that. https://www.economist.com/leaders/2013/06/01/towards-the-end-of-poverty https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Now-Science-Humanism-Progress/dp/0525427570 I guess holds up if we redefine poverty and ignore that at least under feudalism, people owned their houses and had more vacation days than the average American worker. they didn't redefine poverty. the standard of living has risen astronomically in the last 150 years thanks to capitalism. I mean, people aren't dying of disease as frequently or from poisoning but the rate of homelessness is kind of disturbing because we have more houses in the US not being used than total permanently homeless individuals. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night and avoid confronting the realization that capitalism is a tool for the rich to strangle the poor with. Capitalism is demonstrably not strangling the poor. And the standard of living has increased in every objectively good measurement in the last 150 years, not just in terms of disease or poisons. Also, take a look at this post where it talks about how it's nonsense to talk about "the rich" or "the poor" as if they're longlasting groups of people rather than transient: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76798471/904920650 And note that homelessness in the US has been declining steadily, even through the Great Recession, and will continue to decline. https://www.statista.com/statistics/555795/estimated-number-of-homeless-people-in-the-us/ and homelessness is mostly a problem in the areas where rent is artificially high due to leftists restricting how much new housing can be built. places like san francisco, for example. That's all great but what about me? After my phone bill, cable bill, netflix bill, rent, car payment, food, entertainment....i have no money leftover! You just don't understand what its like to be poor <cite>Romes187 posted [p:905024953] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Capitalism was never intended to benefit the many, but rather the few and if it consequentially benefits the many then adjustments would be made to change that.</quote> https://www.economist.com/leaders/2013/06/01/towards-the-end-of-poverty https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Now-Science-Humanism-Progress/dp/0525427570</quote> I guess holds up if we redefine poverty and ignore that at least under feudalism, people owned their houses and had more vacation days than the average American worker.</quote> they didn't redefine poverty. the standard of living has risen astronomically in the last 150 years thanks to capitalism.</quote> I mean, people aren't dying of disease as frequently or from poisoning but the rate of homelessness is kind of disturbing because we have more houses in the US not being used than total permanently homeless individuals. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night and avoid confronting the realization that capitalism is a tool for the rich to strangle the poor with.</quote> Capitalism is demonstrably not strangling the poor. And the standard of living has increased in every objectively good measurement in the last 150 years, not just in terms of disease or poisons. Also, take a look at this post where it talks about how it's nonsense to talk about "the rich" or "the poor" as if they're longlasting groups of people rather than transient: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76798471/904920650 And note that homelessness in the US has been declining steadily, even through the Great Recession, and will continue to decline. https://www.statista.com/statistics/555795/estimated-number-of-homeless-people-in-the-us/ and homelessness is mostly a problem in the areas where rent is artificially high due to leftists restricting how much new housing can be built. places like san francisco, for example.</quote> That's all great but what about me? After my phone bill, cable bill, netflix bill, rent, car payment, food, entertainment....i have no money leftover! You just don't understand what its like to be poor</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 5:30:30 PM #68:	gunplagirl posted... any system that allows individuals to have more wealth than the collective sum of the majority of their countrymen is pretty immoral. no it's not. nothing wrong with earning wealth or giving your wealth away to your children. there's no rule of law or nature that says someone cannot have more wealth than some population. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905024964] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>any system that allows individuals to have more wealth than the collective sum of the majority of their countrymen is pretty immoral.</quote> no it's not. nothing wrong with earning wealth or giving your wealth away to your children. there's no rule of law or nature that says someone cannot have more wealth than some population.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 5:31:14 PM #69:	Romes187 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... gunplagirl posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... gunplagirl posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... @gunplagirl posted... Capitalism was never intended to benefit the many, but rather the few and if it consequentially benefits the many then adjustments would be made to change that. https://www.economist.com/leaders/2013/06/01/towards-the-end-of-poverty https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Now-Science-Humanism-Progress/dp/0525427570 I guess holds up if we redefine poverty and ignore that at least under feudalism, people owned their houses and had more vacation days than the average American worker. they didn't redefine poverty. the standard of living has risen astronomically in the last 150 years thanks to capitalism. I mean, people aren't dying of disease as frequently or from poisoning but the rate of homelessness is kind of disturbing because we have more houses in the US not being used than total permanently homeless individuals. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night and avoid confronting the realization that capitalism is a tool for the rich to strangle the poor with. Capitalism is demonstrably not strangling the poor. And the standard of living has increased in every objectively good measurement in the last 150 years, not just in terms of disease or poisons. Also, take a look at this post where it talks about how it's nonsense to talk about "the rich" or "the poor" as if they're longlasting groups of people rather than transient: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76798471/904920650 And note that homelessness in the US has been declining steadily, even through the Great Recession, and will continue to decline. https://www.statista.com/statistics/555795/estimated-number-of-homeless-people-in-the-us/ and homelessness is mostly a problem in the areas where rent is artificially high due to leftists restricting how much new housing can be built. places like san francisco, for example. That's all great but what about me? After my phone bill, cable bill, netflix bill, rent, car payment, food, entertainment....i have no money leftover! You just don't understand what its like to be poor FFFFF we need violent revolution and we need it now! time to redistribute Jeff Bezos' wealth to all the working class poor like you and me!!!!! --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905024999] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Capitalism was never intended to benefit the many, but rather the few and if it consequentially benefits the many then adjustments would be made to change that.</quote> https://www.economist.com/leaders/2013/06/01/towards-the-end-of-poverty https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Now-Science-Humanism-Progress/dp/0525427570</quote> I guess holds up if we redefine poverty and ignore that at least under feudalism, people owned their houses and had more vacation days than the average American worker.</quote> they didn't redefine poverty. the standard of living has risen astronomically in the last 150 years thanks to capitalism.</quote> I mean, people aren't dying of disease as frequently or from poisoning but the rate of homelessness is kind of disturbing because we have more houses in the US not being used than total permanently homeless individuals. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night and avoid confronting the realization that capitalism is a tool for the rich to strangle the poor with.</quote> Capitalism is demonstrably not strangling the poor. And the standard of living has increased in every objectively good measurement in the last 150 years, not just in terms of disease or poisons. Also, take a look at this post where it talks about how it's nonsense to talk about "the rich" or "the poor" as if they're longlasting groups of people rather than transient: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76798471/904920650 And note that homelessness in the US has been declining steadily, even through the Great Recession, and will continue to decline. https://www.statista.com/statistics/555795/estimated-number-of-homeless-people-in-the-us/ and homelessness is mostly a problem in the areas where rent is artificially high due to leftists restricting how much new housing can be built. places like san francisco, for example.</quote> That's all great but what about me? After my phone bill, cable bill, netflix bill, rent, car payment, food, entertainment....i have no money leftover! You just don't understand what its like to be poor</quote> FFFFF we need violent revolution and we need it now! time to redistribute Jeff Bezos' wealth to all the working class poor like you and me!!!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/13/18 5:34:16 PM #70:	Fluffygerm sure loves brownnosing capitalism. "Demonstratably not choking the poor, objectively improving things, I'll just fail to elaborate what that even entails, and blame leftists for policies that prevent slum lords from making inexpensive hotels every other block" The price of rent is increasing because of people with money and thus sway preventing any legislation that limits how much rent can go up. Even in the middle of nowhere, there's people who are seeing their rent go up every time they renew their contract and it's an annual contract at most so it adds up quickly despite the property taxes not going up, value of the neighborhood not rising, etc. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905025150] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote>Fluffygerm sure loves brownnosing capitalism. "Demonstratably not choking the poor, objectively improving things, I'll just fail to elaborate what that even entails, and blame leftists for policies that prevent slum lords from making inexpensive hotels every other block" The price of rent is increasing because of people with money and thus sway preventing any legislation that limits how much rent can go up. Even in the middle of nowhere, there's people who are seeing their rent go up every time they renew their contract and it's an annual contract at most so it adds up quickly despite the property taxes not going up, value of the neighborhood not rising, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/13/18 5:36:13 PM #71:	FLUFFYGERM posted... gunplagirl posted... any system that allows individuals to have more wealth than the collective sum of the majority of their countrymen is pretty immoral. no it's not. nothing wrong with earning wealth or giving your wealth away to your children. there's no rule of law or nature that says someone cannot have more wealth than some population. Ah so you're fine knowing that if all the rich people in the us left to form their own nation, they could take all their money from our nation and effectively render us unable to operate in any bare bones capacity? --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905025235] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>any system that allows individuals to have more wealth than the collective sum of the majority of their countrymen is pretty immoral.</quote> no it's not. nothing wrong with earning wealth or giving your wealth away to your children. there's no rule of law or nature that says someone cannot have more wealth than some population.</quote> Ah so you're fine knowing that if all the rich people in the us left to form their own nation, they could take all their money from our nation and effectively render us unable to operate in any bare bones capacity?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/13/18 5:39:27 PM #72:	Orlando_Jordan posted... gunplagirl posted... Orlando_Jordan posted... PiOverlord posted... Orlando_Jordan posted... PiOverlord posted... Orlando_Jordan posted... The Unites States is the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world "Capitalism isn't working! We should convert to communism like the USSR did before they collapsed and stopped existing. It just makes sense." A few people control most of the wealth and nearly all the power. The common man like me and you...we are left with nothing. That isn't a working society, that is a greedy society that will sooner break down than what I propose. Slowly advance technology, let capitalism strangle itself, and use the technology to create a much more efficient communist society that cares about us, and gives us all equal power. Face it, capitalism rewards those who are intelligent, hard-working, and adaptable. Why should NEETs be coddled? Communism is just going to reward people who are drains on society. Capitalism rewards many who are born into wealthy families who get resources you and I could never dream of. Congrats, you got into Harvard...after being given the best resources available, and having previous family so they give you unfair admission based on family history and wealth rather than actual skill. Instead of complaining that others get advantages, you should put in the work to be a self-made wealthy person. But you'll just say it's impossible even though others put in the work and make it happen. The system is rigged so that the majority will never be able to do so. Even among top students across high schools around the nation, not all will be able to get in to their school of choice. And with tuition rising and the value of a degree dropping, it's basically forcing the poor to take on debt for a massively devalued diploma. And no, having less people getting degrees won't actually raise the value of a diploma anymore when there's so many out there. There are those who make excuses for why they can't succeed, and those who never give up until they do succeed. Ah, I see. So rather than having any semblance of nuance, you're going that route. The monkeys with typewriters thing only holds true as being possible when assuming they're doing it infinitely. Humankind is not infinite in any capacity so you might get a person to slip through the cracks every now and then but with a sufficient number of hurdles in the way that are placed there intentionally, it kind of devalues any claim that it's merely a lack of effort. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905025411] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote>The Unites States is the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world "Capitalism isn't working! We should convert to communism like the USSR did before they collapsed and stopped existing. It just makes sense."</quote> A few people control most of the wealth and nearly all the power. The common man like me and you...we are left with nothing. That isn't a working society, that is a greedy society that will sooner break down than what I propose. Slowly advance technology, let capitalism strangle itself, and use the technology to create a much more efficient communist society that cares about us, and gives us all equal power.</quote> Face it, capitalism rewards those who are intelligent, hard-working, and adaptable. Why should NEETs be coddled? Communism is just going to reward people who are drains on society.</quote> Capitalism rewards many who are born into wealthy families who get resources you and I could never dream of. Congrats, you got into Harvard...after being given the best resources available, and having previous family so they give you unfair admission based on family history and wealth rather than actual skill.</quote> Instead of complaining that others get advantages, you should put in the work to be a self-made wealthy person. But you'll just say it's impossible even though others put in the work and make it happen.</quote> The system is rigged so that the majority will never be able to do so. Even among top students across high schools around the nation, not all will be able to get in to their school of choice. And with tuition rising and the value of a degree dropping, it's basically forcing the poor to take on debt for a massively devalued diploma. And no, having less people getting degrees won't actually raise the value of a diploma anymore when there's so many out there.</quote> There are those who make excuses for why they can't succeed, and those who never give up until they do succeed.</quote> Ah, I see. So rather than having any semblance of nuance, you're going that route. The monkeys with typewriters thing only holds true as being possible when assuming they're doing it infinitely. Humankind is not infinite in any capacity so you might get a person to slip through the cracks every now and then but with a sufficient number of hurdles in the way that are placed there intentionally, it kind of devalues any claim that it's merely a lack of effort.</quote> ... 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Questionmarktarius 07/13/18 5:39:38 PM #73:	gunplagirl posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... gunplagirl posted... any system that allows individuals to have more wealth than the collective sum of the majority of their countrymen is pretty immoral. no it's not. nothing wrong with earning wealth or giving your wealth away to your children. there's no rule of law or nature that says someone cannot have more wealth than some population. Ah so you're fine knowing that if all the rich people in the us left to form their own nation, they could take all their money from our nation and effectively render us unable to operate in any bare bones capacity? See also: France. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/15/AR2006071501010_pf.html http://www.france24.com/en/20150808-france-wealthy-flee-high-taxes-les-echos-figures http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4932482/Wealth-tax-forces-12-000-millionaires-YEAR-France.html https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1268381 <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:905025424] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>any system that allows individuals to have more wealth than the collective sum of the majority of their countrymen is pretty immoral.</quote> no it's not. nothing wrong with earning wealth or giving your wealth away to your children. there's no rule of law or nature that says someone cannot have more wealth than some population.</quote> Ah so you're fine knowing that if all the rich people in the us left to form their own nation, they could take all their money from our nation and effectively render us unable to operate in any bare bones capacity?</quote> See also: France. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/15/AR2006071501010_pf.html http://www.france24.com/en/20150808-france-wealthy-flee-high-taxes-les-echos-figures http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4932482/Wealth-tax-forces-12-000-millionaires-YEAR-France.html https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1268381</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 07/13/18 5:48:50 PM #74:	nemu posted... 2000s, or the people who thought hoverboards would be a thing after Back to the Future. No because there was no credible evidence of something like that occurring. There is evidence of the rapid advancement of technology today, and once we start getting the simple stuff down, the complex things will start be built on, and soon we will be building our successors. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 26, 500th posts: 19; PiO ATTN: 2 RotM wins 1, Rejoice my comrades, utopia awaits once Capitalism dies and communism rises. <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:905025919] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>2000s, or the people who thought hoverboards would be a thing after Back to the Future.</quote> No because there was no credible evidence of something like that occurring. There is evidence of the rapid advancement of technology today, and once we start getting the simple stuff down, the complex things will start be built on, and soon we will be building our successors.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iHuman 07/13/18 5:49:35 PM #75:	hoverboards were never scientifically feasible --- Intelligence is just a 12 letter word, what are you? -Me <cite>iHuman posted [p:905025964] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote>hoverboards were never scientifically feasible</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/13/18 5:51:09 PM #76:	iHuman posted... hoverboards were never scientifically feasible It would require a degree of diamagnetism that doesn't really exist yet, but is hypothetically possible. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:905026061] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>iHuman posted...</cite> <quote>hoverboards were never scientifically feasible</quote> It would require a degree of diamagnetism that doesn't really exist yet, but is hypothetically possible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 07/13/18 5:54:57 PM #77:	PiOverlord posted... nemu posted... 2000s, or the people who thought hoverboards would be a thing after Back to the Future. No because there was no credible evidence of something like that occurring. There is evidence of the rapid advancement of technology today, and once we start getting the simple stuff down, the complex things will start be built on, and soon we will be building our successors. You're applying basically science fiction to today's standards. Will AI equal to or far superior to the human brain likely exist at some point in the future? Yes. But that future is still likely hundreds of years away. We are in the baby steps of AI still as of right now, and then we'll need decades and decades of development before they can be trusted to do anything to the human body. While I'm sure that self driving vehicles computers are nothing to scoff at, they're basically just being directed to "don't crash into stuff." That is a far cry from all the variables that go into working on the human body. <cite>nemu posted [p:905026274] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>2000s, or the people who thought hoverboards would be a thing after Back to the Future.</quote> No because there was no credible evidence of something like that occurring. There is evidence of the rapid advancement of technology today, and once we start getting the simple stuff down, the complex things will start be built on, and soon we will be building our successors.</quote> You're applying basically science fiction to today's standards. Will AI equal to or far superior to the human brain likely exist at some point in the future? Yes. But that future is still likely hundreds of years away. We are in the baby steps of AI still as of right now, and then we'll need decades and decades of development before they can be trusted to do anything to the human body. While I'm sure that self driving vehicles computers are nothing to scoff at, they're basically just being directed to "don't crash into stuff." That is a far cry from all the variables that go into working on the human body.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 07/13/18 6:22:35 PM #78:	gunplagirl posted... Fluffygerm sure loves brownnosing capitalism. "Demonstratably not choking the poor, objectively improving things, I'll just fail to elaborate what that even entails, and blame leftists for policies that prevent slum lords from making inexpensive hotels every other block" The price of rent is increasing because of people with money and thus sway preventing any legislation that limits how much rent can go up. Even in the middle of nowhere, there's people who are seeing their rent go up every time they renew their contract and it's an annual contract at most so it adds up quickly despite the property taxes not going up, value of the neighborhood not rising, etc. There was literally a guy who ran for office under the "the rent is too damn high" party. He also did reality tv. His entire platform was that rent is too high. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:905027728] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Fluffygerm sure loves brownnosing capitalism. "Demonstratably not choking the poor, objectively improving things, I'll just fail to elaborate what that even entails, and blame leftists for policies that prevent slum lords from making inexpensive hotels every other block" The price of rent is increasing because of people with money and thus sway preventing any legislation that limits how much rent can go up. Even in the middle of nowhere, there's people who are seeing their rent go up every time they renew their contract and it's an annual contract at most so it adds up quickly despite the property taxes not going up, value of the neighborhood not rising, etc.</quote> There was literally a guy who ran for office under the "the rent is too damn high" party. He also did reality tv. His entire platform was that rent is too high.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 07/13/18 6:59:40 PM #79:	Spread the red comrades. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 26, 500th posts: 19; PiO ATTN: 2 RotM wins 1, Rejoice my comrades, utopia awaits once Capitalism dies and communism rises. <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:905029619] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote>Spread the red comrades.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 07/13/18 7:03:25 PM #80:	Viva La Revolution, workers of the world unite!!! --- https://imgur.com/OlAyuQb https://imgur.com/KnLuqux <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:905029791] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote>Viva La Revolution, workers of the world unite!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 07/13/18 7:52:40 PM #81:	Somehow you kinda knew this was going to fall into a communist thread with a bit of technology fearmongering. Machine Learning is mostly good for photo and object recognition these days. Uber's self driving car just ran over a lady recently and Tesla's "self driving" feature keep running the car into barriers. All this machine replacing humans is in the next 30 years is pure science fiction. Keep SkyNet in the movies and look at reality for what it is. Capitalism works. Socialism/Communism destroys. No amount of mental gymnastics will change reality. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:905032183] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote>Somehow you kinda knew this was going to fall into a communist thread with a bit of technology fearmongering. Machine Learning is mostly good for photo and object recognition these days. Uber's self driving car just ran over a lady recently and Tesla's "self driving" feature keep running the car into barriers. All this machine replacing humans is in the next 30 years is pure science fiction. Keep SkyNet in the movies and look at reality for what it is. Capitalism works. Socialism/Communism destroys. No amount of mental gymnastics will change reality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joelypoely 07/13/18 7:55:59 PM #82:	Damn_Underscore posted... Capitalism is the most free and fair economic system you can have. Hahahahaha --- https://philoetryblog.wordpress.com/ <cite>Joelypoely posted [p:905032354] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Capitalism is the most free and fair economic system you can have.</quote> Hahahahaha</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 07/13/18 8:00:18 PM #83:	Capitalism doesn't exist. We're living in a socialist world with a government that is way to large and interfering in peoples lives and a federal reserve selling away the future through inflation. You want a strong economy, people to be able to afford healthcare, good infrastructure and a happy people? Dismantle the government, end the fed, and let the free market guide us. --- The gamefaqs moderation team knows dogs capable of being offended, cant laugh at a joke, and like to punish jokes that are acceptable on prime time TV pg shows. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:905032555] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote>Capitalism doesn't exist. We're living in a socialist world with a government that is way to large and interfering in peoples lives and a federal reserve selling away the future through inflation. You want a strong economy, people to be able to afford healthcare, good infrastructure and a happy people? Dismantle the government, end the fed, and let the free market guide us.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 07/13/18 8:09:17 PM #84:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... Somehow you kinda knew this was going to fall into a communist thread with a bit of technology fearmongering. Machine Learning is mostly good for photo and object recognition these days. Uber's self driving car just ran over a lady recently and Tesla's "self driving" feature keep running the car into barriers. All this machine replacing humans is in the next 30 years is pure science fiction. Keep SkyNet in the movies and look at reality for what it is. Capitalism works. Socialism/Communism destroys. No amount of mental gymnastics will change reality. This isn't a technology fearmongering thread. I want technology to surpass us, it is our next evolution. Why is it a bad thing if we are made obsolete? It means we have gone a long way. Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... Capitalism doesn't exist. We're living in a socialist world with a government that is way to large and interfering in peoples lives and a federal reserve selling away the future through inflation. You want a strong economy, people to be able to afford healthcare, good infrastructure and a happy people? Dismantle the government, end the fed, and let the free market guide us. Yes, the generous glorious business leaders will so kindly take care of us instead of their own pocket, lol. It's a business' job to make a greater profit, and be sustainable. It's a government's job to take care of its people by defending and preserving them. While the two aren't mutually exclusive, don't expect the big businesses to care for us. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 26, 500th posts: 19; PiO ATTN: 2 RotM wins 1, Rejoice my comrades, utopia awaits once Capitalism dies and communism rises. <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:905032942] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>Somehow you kinda knew this was going to fall into a communist thread with a bit of technology fearmongering. Machine Learning is mostly good for photo and object recognition these days. Uber's self driving car just ran over a lady recently and Tesla's "self driving" feature keep running the car into barriers. All this machine replacing humans is in the next 30 years is pure science fiction. Keep SkyNet in the movies and look at reality for what it is. Capitalism works. Socialism/Communism destroys. No amount of mental gymnastics will change reality.</quote> This isn't a technology fearmongering thread. I want technology to surpass us, it is our next evolution. Why is it a bad thing if we are made obsolete? It means we have gone a long way. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote>Capitalism doesn't exist. We're living in a socialist world with a government that is way to large and interfering in peoples lives and a federal reserve selling away the future through inflation. You want a strong economy, people to be able to afford healthcare, good infrastructure and a happy people? Dismantle the government, end the fed, and let the free market guide us.</quote> Yes, the generous glorious business leaders will so kindly take care of us instead of their own pocket, lol. It's a business' job to make a greater profit, and be sustainable. It's a government's job to take care of its people by defending and preserving them. While the two aren't mutually exclusive, don't expect the big businesses to care for us.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 07/13/18 8:19:25 PM #85:	PiOverlord posted... This isn't a technology fearmongering thread. I want technology to surpass us, it is our next evolution. Why is it a bad thing if we are made obsolete? It means we have gone a long way. What kind of nonsense are you getting at? That's not evolution. Maybe that's what you want because you have no drive or ambition. You can become obsolete all you want. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:905033381] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote>This isn't a technology fearmongering thread. I want technology to surpass us, it is our next evolution. Why is it a bad thing if we are made obsolete? It means we have gone a long way.</quote> What kind of nonsense are you getting at? That's not evolution. Maybe that's what you want because you have no drive or ambition. You can become obsolete all you want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 07/13/18 8:22:53 PM #86:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... PiOverlord posted... This isn't a technology fearmongering thread. I want technology to surpass us, it is our next evolution. Why is it a bad thing if we are made obsolete? It means we have gone a long way. What kind of nonsense are you getting at? That's not evolution. Maybe that's what you want because you have no drive or ambition. You can become obsolete all you want. Sure it is. A.I human beings will be the next step to life. No longer will we be held back by neuron limitations. No longer will evolution be a slow process over many centuries/millennium, etc., but it will be when an improvement can be found. Inorganic human beings will be faster, stronger, smarter, longer-lasting, more resilient, quicker thinkers, and better any other measurable category than us. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 26, 500th posts: 19; PiO ATTN: 2 RotM wins 1, Rejoice my comrades, utopia awaits once Capitalism dies and communism rises. <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:905033536] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote>This isn't a technology fearmongering thread. I want technology to surpass us, it is our next evolution. Why is it a bad thing if we are made obsolete? It means we have gone a long way.</quote> What kind of nonsense are you getting at? That's not evolution. Maybe that's what you want because you have no drive or ambition. You can become obsolete all you want.</quote> Sure it is. A.I human beings will be the next step to life. No longer will we be held back by neuron limitations. No longer will evolution be a slow process over many centuries/millennium, etc., but it will be when an improvement can be found. Inorganic human beings will be faster, stronger, smarter, longer-lasting, more resilient, quicker thinkers, and better any other measurable category than us.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 07/13/18 8:25:13 PM #87:	PiOverlord posted... Sure it is. A.I human beings will be the next step to life. No longer will we be held back by neuron limitations. No longer will evolution be a slow process over many centuries/millennium, etc., but it will be when an improvement can be found. Inorganic human beings will be faster, stronger, smarter, longer-lasting, more resilient, quicker thinkers, and better any other measurable category than us. You have a mental illness. Get some help. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:905033635] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote>Sure it is. A.I human beings will be the next step to life. No longer will we be held back by neuron limitations. No longer will evolution be a slow process over many centuries/millennium, etc., but it will be when an improvement can be found. Inorganic human beings will be faster, stronger, smarter, longer-lasting, more resilient, quicker thinkers, and better any other measurable category than us.</quote> You have a mental illness. Get some help.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 07/13/18 8:27:27 PM #88:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... PiOverlord posted... Sure it is. A.I human beings will be the next step to life. No longer will we be held back by neuron limitations. No longer will evolution be a slow process over many centuries/millennium, etc., but it will be when an improvement can be found. Inorganic human beings will be faster, stronger, smarter, longer-lasting, more resilient, quicker thinkers, and better any other measurable category than us. You have a mental illness. Get some help. Lol, this isn't some children's story where Little Timmy won the race because he had the heart and willpower to do it. Doesn't matter how hard you try, you will be held back by your biological limitations, and the inorganic human beings will be designed to be better than you in any category. No amount of heart will prevent this --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 26, 500th posts: 19; PiO ATTN: 2 RotM wins 1, Rejoice my comrades, utopia awaits once Capitalism dies and communism rises. <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:905033735] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote>Sure it is. A.I human beings will be the next step to life. No longer will we be held back by neuron limitations. No longer will evolution be a slow process over many centuries/millennium, etc., but it will be when an improvement can be found. Inorganic human beings will be faster, stronger, smarter, longer-lasting, more resilient, quicker thinkers, and better any other measurable category than us.</quote> You have a mental illness. Get some help.</quote> Lol, this isn't some children's story where Little Timmy won the race because he had the heart and willpower to do it. Doesn't matter how hard you try, you will be held back by your biological limitations, and the inorganic human beings will be designed to be better than you in any category. No amount of heart will prevent this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 07/13/18 8:37:58 PM #89:	PiOverlord posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... Somehow you kinda knew this was going to fall into a communist thread with a bit of technology fearmongering. Machine Learning is mostly good for photo and object recognition these days. Uber's self driving car just ran over a lady recently and Tesla's "self driving" feature keep running the car into barriers. All this machine replacing humans is in the next 30 years is pure science fiction. Keep SkyNet in the movies and look at reality for what it is. Capitalism works. Socialism/Communism destroys. No amount of mental gymnastics will change reality. This isn't a technology fearmongering thread. I want technology to surpass us, it is our next evolution. Why is it a bad thing if we are made obsolete? It means we have gone a long way. Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... Capitalism doesn't exist. We're living in a socialist world with a government that is way to large and interfering in peoples lives and a federal reserve selling away the future through inflation. You want a strong economy, people to be able to afford healthcare, good infrastructure and a happy people? Dismantle the government, end the fed, and let the free market guide us. Yes, the generous glorious business leaders will so kindly take care of us instead of their own pocket, lol. It's a business' job to make a greater profit, and be sustainable. It's a government's job to take care of its people by defending and preserving them. While the two aren't mutually exclusive, don't expect the big businesses to care for us. How do businesses make money? By selling something to someone who wants it. How do they produce goods and services? By paying people a competitive wage to do it. The more firms and demand the better the wage as they compete for employees. It lets people guide the market and competition drives down prices and up productivity and innovation. What does the government do? They take money out of your pocket at gun point and tell you that they know what people want and need and know better than the people that want and need things. --- The gamefaqs moderation team knows dogs capable of being offended, cant laugh at a joke, and like to punish jokes that are acceptable on prime time TV pg shows. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:905034151] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>Somehow you kinda knew this was going to fall into a communist thread with a bit of technology fearmongering. Machine Learning is mostly good for photo and object recognition these days. Uber's self driving car just ran over a lady recently and Tesla's "self driving" feature keep running the car into barriers. All this machine replacing humans is in the next 30 years is pure science fiction. Keep SkyNet in the movies and look at reality for what it is. Capitalism works. Socialism/Communism destroys. No amount of mental gymnastics will change reality.</quote> This isn't a technology fearmongering thread. I want technology to surpass us, it is our next evolution. Why is it a bad thing if we are made obsolete? It means we have gone a long way. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote>Capitalism doesn't exist. We're living in a socialist world with a government that is way to large and interfering in peoples lives and a federal reserve selling away the future through inflation. You want a strong economy, people to be able to afford healthcare, good infrastructure and a happy people? Dismantle the government, end the fed, and let the free market guide us.</quote> Yes, the generous glorious business leaders will so kindly take care of us instead of their own pocket, lol. It's a business' job to make a greater profit, and be sustainable. It's a government's job to take care of its people by defending and preserving them. While the two aren't mutually exclusive, don't expect the big businesses to care for us.</quote> How do businesses make money? By selling something to someone who wants it. How do they produce goods and services? By paying people a competitive wage to do it. The more firms and demand the better the wage as they compete for employees. It lets people guide the market and competition drives down prices and up productivity and innovation. What does the government do? They take money out of your pocket at gun point and tell you that they know what people want and need and know better than the people that want and need things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 07/13/18 8:43:51 PM #90:	Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... PiOverlord posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... Somehow you kinda knew this was going to fall into a communist thread with a bit of technology fearmongering. Machine Learning is mostly good for photo and object recognition these days. Uber's self driving car just ran over a lady recently and Tesla's "self driving" feature keep running the car into barriers. All this machine replacing humans is in the next 30 years is pure science fiction. Keep SkyNet in the movies and look at reality for what it is. Capitalism works. Socialism/Communism destroys. No amount of mental gymnastics will change reality. This isn't a technology fearmongering thread. I want technology to surpass us, it is our next evolution. Why is it a bad thing if we are made obsolete? It means we have gone a long way. Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... Capitalism doesn't exist. We're living in a socialist world with a government that is way to large and interfering in peoples lives and a federal reserve selling away the future through inflation. You want a strong economy, people to be able to afford healthcare, good infrastructure and a happy people? Dismantle the government, end the fed, and let the free market guide us. Yes, the generous glorious business leaders will so kindly take care of us instead of their own pocket, lol. It's a business' job to make a greater profit, and be sustainable. It's a government's job to take care of its people by defending and preserving them. While the two aren't mutually exclusive, don't expect the big businesses to care for us. How do businesses make money? By selling something to someone who wants it. How do they produce goods and services? By paying people a competitive wage to do it. The more firms and demand the better the wage as they compete for employees. It lets people guide the market and competition drives down prices and up productivity and innovation. What does the government do? They take money out of your pocket at gun point and tell you that they know what people want and need and know better than the people that want and need things. Yeah, I am sure 19th century Americans would definitely agree big businesses were looking out for them with unchecked monopolies, child labor, sexist and racist attitudes towards women and minorities, no safety standards for workplace fire, etc. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 26, 500th posts: 19; PiO ATTN: 2 RotM wins 1, Rejoice my comrades, utopia awaits once Capitalism dies and communism rises. <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:905034396] in Capiitalis... [t:76804261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>Somehow you kinda knew this was going to fall into a communist thread with a bit of technology fearmongering. Machine Learning is mostly good for photo and object recognition these days. Uber's self driving car just ran over a lady recently and Tesla's "self driving" feature keep running the car into barriers. All this machine replacing humans is in the next 30 years is pure science fiction. Keep SkyNet in the movies and look at reality for what it is. Capitalism works. Socialism/Communism destroys. No amount of mental gymnastics will change reality.</quote> This isn't a technology fearmongering thread. I want technology to surpass us, it is our next evolution. Why is it a bad thing if we are made obsolete? It means we have gone a long way. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote>Capitalism doesn't exist. We're living in a socialist world with a government that is way to large and interfering in peoples lives and a federal reserve selling away the future through inflation. You want a strong economy, people to be able to afford healthcare, good infrastructure and a happy people? Dismantle the government, end the fed, and let the free market guide us.</quote> Yes, the generous glorious business leaders will so kindly take care of us instead of their own pocket, lol. It's a business' job to make a greater profit, and be sustainable. It's a government's job to take care of its people by defending and preserving them. While the two aren't mutually exclusive, don't expect the big businesses to care for us.</quote> How do businesses make money? By selling something to someone who wants it. How do they produce goods and services? By paying people a competitive wage to do it. The more firms and demand the better the wage as they compete for employees. It lets people guide the market and competition drives down prices and up productivity and innovation. What does the government do? They take money out of your pocket at gun point and tell you that they know what people want and need and know better than the people that want and need things.</quote> Yeah, I am sure 19th century Americans would definitely agree big businesses were looking out for them with unchecked monopolies, child labor, sexist and racist attitudes towards women and minorities, no safety standards for workplace fire, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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