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dreamvoid 07/11/18 12:40:01 PM #1:	https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/11/republicans-take-little-action-to-stop-trump-trade-war-with-china.html Congressional Republicans who oppose the Trump administration's mounting trade conflicts around the globe appear increasingly helpless as the president threatens more tariffs on top trading partners. As a trade war with China could widen and damage a broader swath of the U.S. economy ahead of November's midterm elections, GOP lawmakers hold little leverage over a president intent on cracking down on alleged unfair trade tactics. Facing the prospect of a presidential veto, Senate Republican leaders have not yet taken up a bipartisan proposal to limit President Donald Trump's ability to impose tariffs. On Wednesday, the chamber plans to vote on a "motion to instruct" related to Trump's authority to levy duties which can recommend a course of action, but does not compel the president to make any move. Sen. Jeff Flake, an Arizona Republican and one of the leading congressional critics of Trump's trade policy, called the action "a first step toward reasserting Congress's constitutional role on tariffs." He said the motion will relate to Section 232, or the president's authority to impose tariffs over alleged threats to U.S. national security. Even if the Senate approves the motion, neither lawmakers nor the president have to abide by it. Deterred by the president's veto power, the GOP-controlled Congress appears reluctant to take more concrete action checking Trump's authority, even as many lawmakers contend the widening trade conflicts will harm both American companies and consumers. Trump's actions and retaliatory duties levied by China, Canada, Mexico and the European Union have so far affected only a small pocket of the U.S. economy, leaving it off the top of most lawmakers' priority lists. It is unclear what amount of damage to consumers and businesses, if any, would compel a veto-proof majority of Congress to vote to check the president's tariff authority. their motion to instruct is rather pointless. we all know trump wouldn't listen to them. --- https://imgur.com/2Qfzt9X https://imgur.com/qlXpj2E https://imgur.com/rPe48jC https://imgur.com/5xltd3r <cite>dreamvoid posted [p:904885967] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/11/republicans-take-little-action-to-stop-trump-trade-war-with-china.html <quote>Congressional Republicans who oppose the Trump administration's mounting trade conflicts around the globe appear increasingly helpless as the president threatens more tariffs on top trading partners. As a trade war with China could widen and damage a broader swath of the U.S. economy ahead of November's midterm elections, GOP lawmakers hold little leverage over a president intent on cracking down on alleged unfair trade tactics. Facing the prospect of a presidential veto, Senate Republican leaders have not yet taken up a bipartisan proposal to limit President Donald Trump's ability to impose tariffs. On Wednesday, the chamber plans to vote on a "motion to instruct" related to Trump's authority to levy duties which can recommend a course of action, but does not compel the president to make any move. Sen. Jeff Flake, an Arizona Republican and one of the leading congressional critics of Trump's trade policy, called the action "a first step toward reasserting Congress's constitutional role on tariffs." He said the motion will relate to Section 232, or the president's authority to impose tariffs over alleged threats to U.S. national security. Even if the Senate approves the motion, neither lawmakers nor the president have to abide by it. Deterred by the president's veto power, the GOP-controlled Congress appears reluctant to take more concrete action checking Trump's authority, even as many lawmakers contend the widening trade conflicts will harm both American companies and consumers. Trump's actions and retaliatory duties levied by China, Canada, Mexico and the European Union have so far affected only a small pocket of the U.S. economy, leaving it off the top of most lawmakers' priority lists. It is unclear what amount of damage to consumers and businesses, if any, would compel a veto-proof majority of Congress to vote to check the president's tariff authority.</quote> their motion to instruct is rather pointless. we all know trump wouldn't listen to them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 07/11/18 12:51:01 PM #2:	This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:904886621] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 07/11/18 1:21:21 PM #3:	UnholyMudcrab posted... This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is I'm glad. People have had too much faith in 'murica for too long. --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:904888256] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is</quote> I'm glad. People have had too much faith in 'murica for too long.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 07/11/18 1:22:42 PM #4:	P4wn4g3 posted... UnholyMudcrab posted... This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is I'm glad. Shit CE things --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:904888324] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is</quote> I'm glad. </quote> Shit CE things</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 07/11/18 1:22:59 PM #5:	UnholyMudcrab posted... This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is It's not really weak, it's just that the republicans refuse to actually USE them since the GOP believes in party > country. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:904888334] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is</quote> It's not really weak, it's just that the republicans refuse to actually USE them since the GOP believes in party > country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 07/11/18 1:23:50 PM #6:	UnholyMudcrab posted... This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is It's only weak if Congress doesn't want to act, which isn't weak, it's willful. Checks and balances is between the branches of govt. Not parties. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:904888385] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is</quote> It's only weak if Congress doesn't want to act, which isn't weak, it's willful. Checks and balances is between the branches of govt. Not parties.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rexdragon125 07/11/18 1:24:19 PM #7:	lol the liberals are pissed off! #MAGA #WINNING <cite>Rexdragon125 posted [p:904888408] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>lol the liberals are pissed off! #MAGA #WINNING</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedzXVIII 07/11/18 1:26:03 PM #8:	Republicans proving Republicans do not believe in small government --- Hi <cite>MedzXVIII posted [p:904888490] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>Republicans proving Republicans do not believe in small government</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 07/11/18 1:26:37 PM #9:	hahatakethatconservatives.jpg --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://imgur.com/M1TnV8w <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:904888522] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>hahatakethatconservatives.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0AbsoluteZero0 07/11/18 1:26:44 PM #10:	UnfairRepresent posted... P4wn4g3 posted... UnholyMudcrab posted... This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is I'm glad. Shit CE things I mean, I feel like its good that these shortcomings are being exposed under an administration thats evil and bumbling. The potential damage would be a lot worse under a halfway competent leader. --- -The Admirable <cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted [p:904888534] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is</quote> I'm glad. </quote> Shit CE things</quote> I mean, I feel like its good that these shortcomings are being exposed under an administration thats evil and bumbling. The potential damage would be a lot worse under a halfway competent leader.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 07/11/18 1:27:19 PM #11:	because Republicans are spineless. --- When a girl has sex with a bunch of guys, they call her a slut, but when a guy does it, they call him gay. ~ Antifar <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:904888560] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>because Republicans are spineless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperShake666 07/11/18 1:27:31 PM #12:	>controls House and Senate >helpless wut --- "Look, if I was good at math, I wouldn't be on CE at 2:00 the morning clicking on topics about porn stars ****ing horses." - May 2017, Dash_Harber <cite>SuperShake666 posted [p:904888569] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>>controls House and Senate >helpless wut</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthGravid 07/11/18 1:27:53 PM #13:	Heineken14 posted... UnholyMudcrab posted... This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is It's not really weak, it's just that the republicans refuse to actually USE them since the GOP believes in party > country. Blue wave or not, if Democrats perform better than expected(by the GOP leadership) in November, the GOP will pay attention and rein the President in. They won't risk losing their power over one man. Top GOP leaders didn't get to where they are by not knowing how to play the game. --- Torn between two minds. Is either correct? Perhaps together.....but how? Can it be done? <cite>DarthGravid posted [p:904888585] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Heineken14 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is</quote> It's not really weak, it's just that the republicans refuse to actually USE them since the GOP believes in party > country.</quote> Blue wave or not, if Democrats perform better than expected(by the GOP leadership) in November, the GOP will pay attention and rein the President in. They won't risk losing their power over one man. Top GOP leaders didn't get to where they are by not knowing how to play the game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DuneMan 07/11/18 1:27:57 PM #14:	Heineken14 posted... UnholyMudcrab posted... This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is It's not really weak, it's just that the republicans refuse to actually USE them since the GOP believes in party > country. It's this. The Founders expected citizens to be patriotic and support the spirit of the Constitution. Instead the country has broken into a tribal system where opponents are demonized. It definitely falls square on Republicans too, as Democrats for their part do crack under pressure and acquiesce/relent. --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao <cite>DuneMan posted [p:904888586] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Heineken14 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is</quote> It's not really weak, it's just that the republicans refuse to actually USE them since the GOP believes in party > country.</quote> It's this. The Founders expected citizens to be patriotic and support the spirit of the Constitution. Instead the country has broken into a tribal system where opponents are demonized. It definitely falls square on Republicans too, as Democrats for their part do crack under pressure and acquiesce/relent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 07/11/18 1:29:17 PM #15:	For decades Republicans stood for smaller deficits and free trade. Two years into Trump and they abandoned everything they stood for. Repubs. Tell us what do you stand for besides reelection and sticking it to liberals? <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:904888661] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>For decades Republicans stood for smaller deficits and free trade. Two years into Trump and they abandoned everything they stood for. Repubs. Tell us what do you stand for besides reelection and sticking it to liberals?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 07/11/18 1:32:11 PM #16:	DarthGravid posted... Heineken14 posted... UnholyMudcrab posted... This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is It's not really weak, it's just that the republicans refuse to actually USE them since the GOP believes in party > country. Blue wave or not, if Democrats perform better than expected(by the GOP leadership) in November, the GOP will pay attention and rein the President in. They won't risk losing their power over one man. Top GOP leaders didn't get to where they are by not knowing how to play the game. I don't have faith in them enough to believe this is even remotely true. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:904888826] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthGravid posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Heineken14 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is</quote> It's not really weak, it's just that the republicans refuse to actually USE them since the GOP believes in party > country.</quote> Blue wave or not, if Democrats perform better than expected(by the GOP leadership) in November, the GOP will pay attention and rein the President in. They won't risk losing their power over one man. Top GOP leaders didn't get to where they are by not knowing how to play the game.</quote> I don't have faith in them enough to believe this is even remotely true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 07/11/18 1:32:33 PM #17:	cerealbox760 posted... For decades Republicans stood for smaller deficits and free trade. Republicans have never stood for either of those things. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:904888848] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote>For decades Republicans stood for smaller deficits and free trade.</quote> Republicans have never stood for either of those things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bacon_Pancakes 07/11/18 1:33:06 PM #18:	I hope the two party system falls apart from within. <cite>Bacon_Pancakes posted [p:904888874] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>I hope the two party system falls apart from within.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 07/11/18 1:34:57 PM #19:	cerealbox760 posted... For decades Republicans stood for smaller deficits and free trade. Two years into Trump and they abandoned everything they stood for. Repubs. Tell us what do you stand for besides reelection and sticking it to liberals? They abandoned this long before Trump came along --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:904888978] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote>For decades Republicans stood for smaller deficits and free trade. Two years into Trump and they abandoned everything they stood for. Repubs. Tell us what do you stand for besides reelection and sticking it to liberals?</quote> They abandoned this long before Trump came along</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 07/11/18 1:37:26 PM #20:	DuneMan posted... as Democrats for their part do crack under pressure and acquiesce/relent. don't forget that in today's world "compromise" = "weak loser" --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:904889113] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>DuneMan posted...</cite> <quote>as Democrats for their part do crack under pressure and acquiesce/relent.</quote> don't forget that in today's world "compromise" = "weak loser"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 07/11/18 1:38:16 PM #21:	i give repubs points for trying but they need to do something if they want to save face. practically gave the keys to a kingdom to a crazed lunatic. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:904889152] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>i give repubs points for trying but they need to do something if they want to save face. practically gave the keys to a kingdom to a crazed lunatic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 07/11/18 1:38:49 PM #22:	As soon as the prices at Walmart go up Trump is gonna start losing voters. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:904889176] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>As soon as the prices at Walmart go up Trump is gonna start losing voters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedzXVIII 07/11/18 1:39:37 PM #23:	Abyssea posted... As soon as the prices at Walmart go up Trump is gonna start losing voters. Fuck walmart --- Hi <cite>MedzXVIII posted [p:904889217] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>As soon as the prices at Walmart go up Trump is gonna start losing voters.</quote> Fuck walmart</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 07/11/18 1:40:12 PM #24:	MedzXVIII posted... Abyssea posted... As soon as the prices at Walmart go up Trump is gonna start losing voters. Fuck walmart 95% of trump voters are Walmart shoppers. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:904889247] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>As soon as the prices at Walmart go up Trump is gonna start losing voters.</quote> Fuck walmart</quote> 95% of trump voters are Walmart shoppers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 07/11/18 1:40:44 PM #25:	MedzXVIII posted... Abyssea posted... As soon as the prices at Walmart go up Trump is gonna start losing voters. Fuck walmart i was planning to go there in a few weeks (not that i'm willing to buy something from them), if i had the money i would go to the costco to buy a TV. they seem to have the best selection even a nice one for 200$. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:904889271] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>As soon as the prices at Walmart go up Trump is gonna start losing voters.</quote> Fuck walmart</quote> i was planning to go there in a few weeks (not that i'm willing to buy something from them), if i had the money i would go to the costco to buy a TV. they seem to have the best selection even a nice one for 200$.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BruceWayneJr 07/11/18 1:44:42 PM #26:	UnholyMudcrab posted... This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is The methods of opportunity have been exposed. If the US doesn't do something to close them off when/if The Trump Show concludes, then it truly is a shithole country. --- He might be the president, but it's not his country. <cite>BruceWayneJr posted [p:904889476] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>This administration has exposed how weak our system of checks and balances really is</quote> The methods of opportunity have been exposed. If the US doesn't do something to close them off when/if The Trump Show concludes, then it truly is a shithole country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/11/18 1:45:19 PM #27:	What is the process for imposing tariffs? Does the President have the supreme authority on this matter? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904889506] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>What is the process for imposing tariffs? Does the President have the supreme authority on this matter?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 07/11/18 1:46:14 PM #28:	FLUFFYGERM posted... What is the process for imposing tariffs? Does the President have the supreme authority on this matter? In case of national security... --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:904889563] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>What is the process for imposing tariffs? Does the President have the supreme authority on this matter?</quote> In case of national security...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/11/18 1:46:59 PM #29:	frozenshock posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... What is the process for imposing tariffs? Does the President have the supreme authority on this matter? In case of national security... Is that what is happening here? Trump levying any tariffs in any amount he pleases for national security? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904889598] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>What is the process for imposing tariffs? Does the President have the supreme authority on this matter?</quote> In case of national security...</quote> Is that what is happening here? Trump levying any tariffs in any amount he pleases for national security?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker 07/11/18 1:48:12 PM #30:	FLUFFYGERM posted... frozenshock posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... What is the process for imposing tariffs? Does the President have the supreme authority on this matter? In case of national security... Is that what is happening here? Trump levying any tariffs in any amount he pleases for national security? That's his excuse, yes. I don't think he's ever explained how CANADA is a threat to national security. <cite>BWLurker posted [p:904889663] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>What is the process for imposing tariffs? Does the President have the supreme authority on this matter?</quote> In case of national security...</quote> Is that what is happening here? Trump levying any tariffs in any amount he pleases for national security?</quote> That's his excuse, yes. I don't think he's ever explained how CANADA is a threat to national security.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 07/11/18 1:48:56 PM #31:	If the GOP are complaining that they can't stop Trump, perhaps they should resign to let in people who actually can. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:904889703] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>If the GOP are complaining that they can't stop Trump, perhaps they should resign to let in people who actually can.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/11/18 1:49:58 PM #32:	BWLurker posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... frozenshock posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... What is the process for imposing tariffs? Does the President have the supreme authority on this matter? In case of national security... Is that what is happening here? Trump levying any tariffs in any amount he pleases for national security? That's his excuse, yes. I don't think he's ever explained how CANADA is a threat to national security. What I'm asking is, is Trump the only authority that is relevant to forming and signing and enacting paperwork for these tariffs in this trade war? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904889755] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>What is the process for imposing tariffs? Does the President have the supreme authority on this matter?</quote> In case of national security...</quote> Is that what is happening here? Trump levying any tariffs in any amount he pleases for national security?</quote> That's his excuse, yes. I don't think he's ever explained how CANADA is a threat to national security.</quote> What I'm asking is, is Trump the only authority that is relevant to forming and signing and enacting paperwork for these tariffs in this trade war?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 07/11/18 1:50:01 PM #33:	Musourenka posted... If the GOP are complaining that they can't stop Trump, perhaps they should resign to let in people who actually can. I approve --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:904889762] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Musourenka posted...</cite> <quote>If the GOP are complaining that they can't stop Trump, perhaps they should resign to let in people who actually can.</quote> I approve</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker 07/11/18 1:51:44 PM #34:	FLUFFYGERM posted... BWLurker posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... frozenshock posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... What is the process for imposing tariffs? Does the President have the supreme authority on this matter? In case of national security... Is that what is happening here? Trump levying any tariffs in any amount he pleases for national security? That's his excuse, yes. I don't think he's ever explained how CANADA is a threat to national security. What I'm asking is, is Trump the only authority that is relevant to forming and signing and enacting paperwork for these tariffs in this trade war? He's utilizing the "national security" loophole to be the sole authority and decision maker in the process, yes. <cite>BWLurker posted [p:904889845] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>What is the process for imposing tariffs? Does the President have the supreme authority on this matter?</quote> In case of national security...</quote> Is that what is happening here? Trump levying any tariffs in any amount he pleases for national security?</quote> That's his excuse, yes. I don't think he's ever explained how CANADA is a threat to national security.</quote> What I'm asking is, is Trump the only authority that is relevant to forming and signing and enacting paperwork for these tariffs in this trade war?</quote> He's utilizing the "national security" loophole to be the sole authority and decision maker in the process, yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 07/11/18 1:54:09 PM #35:	FLUFFYGERM posted... BWLurker posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... frozenshock posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... What is the process for imposing tariffs? Does the President have the supreme authority on this matter? In case of national security... Is that what is happening here? Trump levying any tariffs in any amount he pleases for national security? That's his excuse, yes. I don't think he's ever explained how CANADA is a threat to national security. What I'm asking is, is Trump the only authority that is relevant to forming and signing and enacting paperwork for these tariffs in this trade war? As long as he uses the national security pretense, he can bypass Congress and the usual process for the implementation of tariffs. Technically, it's the Department of Commerce that recommends to Trump that he put these tariffs in place, but that's an executive department so it's all under the same roof. --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:904889983] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>What is the process for imposing tariffs? Does the President have the supreme authority on this matter?</quote> In case of national security...</quote> Is that what is happening here? Trump levying any tariffs in any amount he pleases for national security?</quote> That's his excuse, yes. I don't think he's ever explained how CANADA is a threat to national security.</quote> What I'm asking is, is Trump the only authority that is relevant to forming and signing and enacting paperwork for these tariffs in this trade war?</quote> As long as he uses the national security pretense, he can bypass Congress and the usual process for the implementation of tariffs. Technically, it's the Department of Commerce that recommends to Trump that he put these tariffs in place, but that's an executive department so it's all under the same roof.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/11/18 1:55:14 PM #36:	So then we need to investigate what's going on in the DoC and why they're recommending these tariffs as matters of national security. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904890046] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>So then we need to investigate what's going on in the DoC and why they're recommending these tariffs as matters of national security.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 07/11/18 1:56:21 PM #37:	FLUFFYGERM posted... So then we need to investigate what's going on in the DoC and why they're recommending these tariffs as matters of national security. Here's their argument: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/need-know-section-232-investigations-tariffs/ --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:904890102] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>So then we need to investigate what's going on in the DoC and why they're recommending these tariffs as matters of national security.</quote> Here's their argument: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/need-know-section-232-investigations-tariffs/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker 07/11/18 1:57:57 PM #38:	FLUFFYGERM posted... So then we need to investigate what's going on in the DoC and why they're recommending these tariffs as matters of national security. Trump is doing the actual recommending though. I don't know what you hope an investigation would turn up. <cite>BWLurker posted [p:904890212] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>So then we need to investigate what's going on in the DoC and why they're recommending these tariffs as matters of national security.</quote> Trump is doing the actual recommending though. I don't know what you hope an investigation would turn up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/11/18 2:00:58 PM #39:	Those Republicans better own this. This is what you get siding party over country. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:904890384] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>Those Republicans better own this. This is what you get siding party over country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 07/11/18 2:11:36 PM #40:	Sayoria posted... Those Republicans better own this. This is what you get siding party over country. LOLOL. Yeah right, this is all democrats fault. In fact, narrow it down even more and it's totally Hillary's fault! If she wouldn't have ran then Donnie would have lost and then blah blah blah. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:904890969] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Those Republicans better own this. This is what you get siding party over country.</quote> LOLOL. Yeah right, this is all democrats fault. In fact, narrow it down even more and it's totally Hillary's fault! If she wouldn't have ran then Donnie would have lost and then blah blah blah.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 07/11/18 2:26:44 PM #41:	I guess PC has conveniently forgotten that Bush Era politics gave a free pass for a president to do literally anything in the name of "national security" --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:904891765] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>I guess PC has conveniently forgotten that Bush Era politics gave a free pass for a president to do literally anything in the name of "national security"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 07/11/18 2:32:44 PM #42:	Trashy Trump --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:904892131] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>Trashy Trump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 07/11/18 2:48:46 PM #44:	Sayoria posted... Those Republicans better own this. This is what you get siding party over country. republicans call themselves the party of personal responsibility but they will never ever take personal responsibility --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:904892993] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Those Republicans better own this. This is what you get siding party over country.</quote> republicans call themselves the party of personal responsibility but they will never ever take personal responsibility</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 07/11/18 2:49:43 PM #45:	yusiko posted... Sayoria posted... Those Republicans better own this. This is what you get siding party over country. republicans call themselves the party of personal responsibility but they will never ever take personal responsibility Party of projection. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:904893043] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Those Republicans better own this. This is what you get siding party over country.</quote> republicans call themselves the party of personal responsibility but they will never ever take personal responsibility</quote> Party of projection.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 07/11/18 2:50:16 PM #46:	yusiko posted... Sayoria posted... Those Republicans better own this. This is what you get siding party over country. republicans call themselves the party of personal responsibility but they will never ever take personal responsibility they love to piss and moan about "entitlement" and "nanny state" but when push comes to shove everything is someone else's fault --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:904893079] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Those Republicans better own this. This is what you get siding party over country.</quote> republicans call themselves the party of personal responsibility but they will never ever take personal responsibility</quote> they love to piss and moan about "entitlement" and "nanny state" but when push comes to shove everything is someone else's fault</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/11/18 2:51:40 PM #47:	This administration has be believing that America might harbor the stupidest people in the face of this planet. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:904893163] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote>This administration has be believing that America might harbor the stupidest people in the face of this planet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 07/11/18 2:54:26 PM #48:	Rexdragon125 posted... lol the liberals are pissed off! #MAGA #WINNING As well as many moderates and many conservatives. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:904893307] in Republican... [t:76797333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rexdragon125 posted...</cite> <quote>lol the liberals are pissed off! #MAGA #WINNING</quote> As well as many moderates and many conservatives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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