Poll of the Day > Oooh I think I got fired lmao

(+) Yeah! (+)

I was applying for different jobs while I'm out on leave and I think one may have contacted my employer somehow.

My friend texted me to ask if I quit because they took me off the internal instant messaging system and they only do that if you don't work for the company anymore.

I have a second interview with a company I'm pretty sure wants to hire me today and another insurance company Thursday so I'm not too concerned about it.
---

you'd think they'd tell you instead of passively aggressively blocking you from instant messaging
---

You should gave given them personal contact information of your references
---

that's nice, honey, ok?

helIy posted...

you'd think they'd tell you instead of passively aggressively blocking you from instant messaging

I would think they'd contact me to tell me that I'm fired so I may not be. But my leave is approved up until the last week in July so far so they might be waiting until then.

Nall posted...

They shouldve asked if you wanted them to contact your current employer. I assume most would say no for exactly this reason.

I didn't even put a number down so I don't know who they would have called. HR maybe?
---

I do think know about where you live, but if you've been working somewhere for more than 3 months here it is super illegal to fire someone for something as silly as applying for other jobs.
---

You're welcome
---

faramir77 posted...

I do think know about where you live, but if you've been working somewhere for more than 3 months here it is super illegal to fire someone for something as silly as applying for other jobs.

It might be an industry thing. Insider information is a big deal for some companies.

SmokeMassTree posted...

You're welcome

You still don't know what company I work for lmao. We've established that.
---

Unfortunately in AZ they can fire you without cause which basically means they can fire you and not tell you why

Its stupid and abused by many employers
---

You don't work for any company now lmao hahaha

Miracle whip
---

Yeah, most states are like that I think. NY and WA were at least.
---

Apparently my other friend says I'm still there it just says Presence Unknown instead of the regular info. Probably just because I'm on leave. So it is probably nothing.
---

faramir77 posted...

I do think know about where you live, but if you've been working somewhere for more than 3 months here it is super illegal to fire someone for something as silly as applying for other jobs.

Some employers don't like it, I guess. Though it's a really shitty thing to do. Especially since you don't know if they were applying to maybe just get a second job because they needed more money.
---

Jen0125 posted...

Apparently my other friend says I'm still there it just says Presence Unknown instead of the regular info. Probably just because I'm on leave. So it is probably nothing.

That happened with office messenger clients when people were out of office for a long time

Probably fine
---

Jen0125 posted...

Apparently my other friend says I'm still there it just says Presence Unknown instead of the regular info. Probably just because I'm on leave. So it is probably nothing.

At my company when I see presence unknown, it is generally someone who has left the company. However, maybe it does that if gone for an extended time without signing in as well.

Jen0125 posted...

Apparently my other friend says I'm still there it just says Presence Unknown instead of the regular info. Probably just because I'm on leave. So it is probably nothing.

At my job, I used to be in charge of various IT related items within my former branch office. When people would take leaves, Id need to remove a lot of the privileges and functions that employees had until they returned.

In particular, I remember that we once had a guy take one week of paternity leave. The entire process took like 3 days to get everything removed, and then he was back 4 days later. Our back office fucked up certain aspects of what was supposed to happen, and ultimately, it took 2 weeks to get everything back up and running for him. Twice the amount of time in which he was out.

Bureaucratic BS, I swear...
---

LinkPizza posted...

faramir77 posted...

I do think know about where you live, but if you've been working somewhere for more than 3 months here it is super illegal to fire someone for something as silly as applying for other jobs.

Some employers don't like it, I guess. Though it's a really shitty thing to do. Especially since you don't know if they were applying to maybe just get a second job because they needed more money.

I dunno about Jens employer but in a lot of fields they actually have you agree when you take a position that you wont work for any competitors
---

The Popo posted...

In particular, I remember that we once had a guy take one week of paternity leave. The entire process took like 3 days to get everything removed, and then he was back 4 days later. Our back office fucked up certain aspects of what was supposed to happen, and ultimately, it took 2 weeks to get everything back up and running for him. Twice the amount of time in which he was out.

Bureaucratic BS, I swear...

Yeah, they do that so people don't contact you via work channels, since you are not supposed to be working at all.

My company is worldwide and sometimes we have people take 3 month vacations and it looks like they quit. We're not supposed to contact them for any reason.

Jen0125 posted...

So it is probably nothing.

*rolls eyes*
---

Mead posted...

LinkPizza posted...

faramir77 posted...

I do think know about where you live, but if you've been working somewhere for more than 3 months here it is super illegal to fire someone for something as silly as applying for other jobs.

Some employers don't like it, I guess. Though it's a really shitty thing to do. Especially since you don't know if they were applying to maybe just get a second job because they needed more money.

I dunno about Jens employer but in a lot of fields they actually have you agree when you take a position that you wont work for any competitors

Mine doesn't have a non-compete clause.

wwinterj25 posted...

Jen0125 posted...

So it is probably nothing.

*rolls eyes*

Hey I was worried and needed to get it out of my system!
---

Jen0125 posted...

it just says Presence Unknown instead of the regular info.

Yeahh... Skype for Business / Lync switches to presence unknown when someone is axed from the system. You might be gone.
---

helIy posted...

you'd think they'd tell you instead of passively aggressively blocking you from instant messaging

IT gets the heads up, to prevent 'revenge dumps' or something.

Pretty sure they can't legally fire you when you're on medical leave.

Muffinz0rz posted...

Jen0125 posted...

it just says Presence Unknown instead of the regular info.

Yeahh... Skype for Business / Lync switches to presence unknown when someone is axed from the system. You might be gone.

nah, at my work they just straight up remove you. like almost instantly. i've never actually seen someone say presence unknown.
---

They can in general let you go for any reason, but usually NOT if they have agreed already to give you leave/time off and have you come back. Especially if you got an email etc to that effect (anything in writing). Of course they could have you come back and then fire you a month later etc, but that would still look bad and might get them in trouble if you really fought it (and had good reason for your leave etc).

They actually should fire someone else first if they need to cut back on employees just because it's less likely to cause a headache long term for them.

Never a bad thing to have other options and applying for other jobs is your right. Sadly in most states you can be let go for any reason at this point (or no reason), which means if an employer finds out your looking for work elsewhere, they can basically let you go for no reason at all, just generally not if your on official paid or non-paid leave that they agreed to already.
---

I'd be surprised if they contacted your employer. I don't think that ever happened to me and I applied to probably way more jobs than you (or if it did, my employer at the time never brought it up with me)

Even now when I say it's okay to contact, I don't think they actually do

If you have after hours access, you would go get your stuff before you officially return to get fired. I wish i did that. But i didn't figure out why they wanted to know my overtime hours a week early and at 7pm.
---

It'll seem fine until you walk in and are about to clock in, and then your supervisor or whomever tells you before you get the chance that they need to speak with you, and to not even clock in yet.

Bonus points if the reason they give for letting you go is some trumped charge that honestly should be possible, or is some other BS, or something.
---

well i have my second interview at this other company at 3:30 today. i'm pretty sure the HR guy who did my first interview wants me hired because he gave me personalized tips on my interview with the hiring manager today. so i've been doing some research per his advice.
---

Not trying to be a downer, but I wouldn't get your hopes up too much. That kind of stuff doesn't necessarily mean they want to hire you. Of course it doesn't mean they don't want to hire you, but I've been let down before by people sending overly positive signals. Personally I'd rather just get neutral signals, because getting rejected hurts even more when you actually thought you were going to get the offer. Probably doesn't apply to you though since you're really only just starting to look and haven't been crushed by years of disappointments

Mead posted...

I dunno about Jens employer but in a lot of fields they actually have you agree when you take a position that you wont work for any competitors

Non-compete clauses are getting very difficult to enforce these days, as courts typically don't like them. They'll enforce them if the terms are reasonable (can't work directly for a client for x amount of time), but blanket non-compete clauses often get thrown out. It makes no sense to say "you can never work for another company in this field ever again".

In fact, basically the only type that is allowed these days are forbidding you from starting your own company and taking existing clients with you. They can put whatever else they want in the document, but the courts will just ignore it unless you did something really bad like sharing trade secrets.
---

Chewster posted...

Not trying to be a downer, but I wouldn't get your hopes up too much. That kind of stuff doesn't necessarily mean they want to hire you. Of course it doesn't mean they don't want to hire you, but I've been let down before by people sending overly positive signals. Personally I'd rather just get neutral signals, because getting rejected hurts even more when you actually thought you were going to get the offer. Probably doesn't apply to you though since you're really only just starting to look and haven't been crushed by years of disappointments

I'm not really getting my hopes up. If I don't get this job I'm just going back to my current job since I'm pretty sure I'm not fired now.
---

But you're still going to look for a new one, right? I figured going back to your current one as a fallback was a given.

Oh, yeah. I have an interview with another company tomorrow. I really would prefer not to go back to my current company. I'd love to go work for this place I'm interviewing now even though the workload is going to be higher simply because it's really geared toward a millennial workforce but if I don't get in it is what it is.
---

Do they have avocado toast on tap there

they yesterday they tweeted a gif of a bulldog with a steady stream of tacos going into its mouth with the caption "current mood" and a hashtag that said taco tuesday

and i thought "same"
---

I hear Chewy was once offered a job and three hours into his first shift when the entire company went bankrupt, don't get your hopes up Jen
---

that'd be my luck
---

well my interview went great. she said it was nice getting to know me and she'd go over my interview with the HR guy i already interviewed with so he can get in touch with me for the next steps. which he said was to meet the team. so i think i'm going forward. she asked if i was still interested in the position after everything we talked about and i said yeah absolutely.
---

Nice going! Sounds like a decent end to a day that started out thinking you got fired

chewy I think you need a sig
---

I walked into an interview today and told the guy I wasn't sure if I wanted to actually work there, and that I have three other jobs on the go. He hired me anyways.

So now I have to figure out what to do for the other jobs because this one is full-time evenings, and the others are full-time day, and two mostly overnights (bar, stage set-up).
---

Seriously though, if you have stuff at a desk or locker, go get it. It's hard to get your stuff back after the fact.
---

SinisterSlay posted...

Seriously though, if you have stuff at a desk or locker, go get it. It's hard to get your stuff back after the fact.

I don't have anything personal there that isn't replaceable easily.

I'm out on medical leave. I'm not just gonna go back to see if I got fired.
---

Why are you one medical leave?
---

Teeth posted...

chewy I think you need a sig

Why

your posts just get skipped over because you don't have one
---

Jen0125 posted...

SinisterSlay posted...

Seriously though, if you have stuff at a desk or locker, go get it. It's hard to get your stuff back after the fact.

I don't have anything personal there that isn't replaceable easily.

I'm out on medical leave. I'm not just gonna go back to see if I got fired.

If you have keys or a passcode or whatever, you "should" be able to go back even if on medical leave.
But yeah if whatever is there isn't important to you, then don't worry about it.
---

That doesn't make sense helly

If anything, sigs are just crap that I skip over