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ssj-kenobi
07/11/18 8:47:36 AM
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Rika_Furude
07/11/18 8:49:08 AM
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i dont care about the race of anyone involved in any movie. neither should anyone else. the only thing that matters is the quality of the movie.
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CyricZ
07/11/18 8:54:09 AM
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I definitely agree with the idea that it's another step, and not the endpoint.
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Duncanwii
07/11/18 8:54:47 AM
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He does know black panther has been a character in comics for many decades right? Marvel didn't just make him up for the movie.
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/11/18 8:57:32 AM
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Lol, he's full of shit.
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trappedunderice
07/11/18 9:00:12 AM
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Puff Daddy enough already, now it's P. Diddy, still sound shitty. How can your group be called the band? No one plays an instrument man.
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cjsdowg
07/11/18 9:00:40 AM
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Highwind07 posted...
Ok so everyone just forgot that Blade existed or didn't pay attention till now.


Marvel did .
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Roshon
07/11/18 9:07:27 AM
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He has great points. Its clear they chose to word the title of the article in a way to grab attention. Sadly some people wont even read the article.
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Dyinglegacy
07/11/18 9:09:29 AM
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I watched the movie recently. It was good, but not 2 billion box office good, imo, anyway. I don't think I've ever seen a movie that was 2 billion good.

The movie did so well because of the people it represented, and the strides it made. First majority black cast, with black director in a massive blockbuster title taking place in the MCU, which has a long running collection of blockbusters under it's belt. Of course it will draw a lot of attention

If you leave race at the door, and judge the movie on it's own merit, I feel that it was a good movie.
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thelastgooduser
07/11/18 9:14:42 AM
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It's a shit film that people only really liked because of the racial element. It's definitely a positive step for representation but the film itself has poorly put together incomprehensible action scenes and in general some of the worst cinematography I've seen in a mainstream blockbuster. But we've reached a point where people will eat up whatever crap Marvel puts out.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
07/11/18 9:15:06 AM
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thelastgooduser posted...
It's a shit film that people only really liked because of the racial element. It's definitely a positive step for representation but the film itself has poorly put together incomprehensible action scenes and in general some of the worst cinematography I've seen in a mainstream blockbuster. But we've reached a point where people will eat up whatever crap Marvel puts out.

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TheoryzC
07/11/18 9:16:07 AM
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CyricZ posted...
I definitely agree with the idea that it's another step, and not the endpoint.

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clearaflagrantj
07/11/18 9:16:25 AM
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*sucks air through teeth* he right
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/11/18 9:17:47 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
thelastgooduser posted...
It's a shit film that people only really liked because of the racial element. It's definitely a positive step for representation but the film itself has poorly put together incomprehensible action scenes and in general some of the worst cinematography I've seen in a mainstream blockbuster. But we've reached a point where people will eat up whatever crap Marvel puts out.

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Which doesn't take away from him having some truth in what he said.
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Tsukasa1891
07/11/18 9:18:47 AM
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Highwind07 posted...
Ok so everyone just forgot that Blade existed or didn't pay attention till now.

I stopped reading at "because we live in 2018".
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thelastgooduser
07/11/18 9:19:12 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
thelastgooduser posted...
It's a shit film that people only really liked because of the racial element. It's definitely a positive step for representation but the film itself has poorly put together incomprehensible action scenes and in general some of the worst cinematography I've seen in a mainstream blockbuster. But we've reached a point where people will eat up whatever crap Marvel puts out.

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this is pathetic, can't handle dissenting opinions so you try to attack me on how long I've had an account for
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Milkman5
07/11/18 9:20:21 AM
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Diddy continued by saying the success of Black Panther did not surprise him. He maintained that when black creators are given the proper resources in any industry, they always over-deliver.


yikes. does he have any examples?
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
07/11/18 9:23:26 AM
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thelastgooduser posted...
this is pathetic, can't handle dissenting opinions so you try to attack me on how long I've had an account for

BP had GREAT cinematography lmao if you think otherwise you must not know what actual "good cinematography" looks like

I only quoted how old your account is because your opinion is laced with the typical thinly-veiled racism of people who can't enjoy things if there are black people in it

In fact I KNOW you're full of shit about it because the movie barely handled any "RACIAL ELEMENTS" beyond "white people colonized africa in the past"

L M A O
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Veggeta X
07/11/18 9:23:39 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
thelastgooduser posted...
It's a shit film that people only really liked because of the racial element. It's definitely a positive step for representation but the film itself has poorly put together incomprehensible action scenes and in general some of the worst cinematography I've seen in a mainstream blockbuster. But we've reached a point where people will eat up whatever crap Marvel puts out.

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Which doesn't take away from him having some truth in what he said.

Hoth alt's opinions don't matter.
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Kitt
07/11/18 9:30:35 AM
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Highwind07 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Highwind07 posted...
Ok so everyone just forgot that Blade existed or didn't pay attention till now.


Marvel did .


Tbqh I watched it so long ago that I didn't even remember it until Black Panther came out and people were saying that he was the first Black superhero to have his own feature film.

I think most people misinterpreted it when people were saying that. Most likely they were talking about the first MCU black character to get a feature length film.
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CyricZ
07/11/18 9:33:26 AM
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thelastgooduser posted...
some of the worst cinematography I've seen in a mainstream blockbuster

There are ways to tell that someone doesn't actually know much about film.

This is one of them.
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Kitt
07/11/18 9:46:53 AM
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CyricZ posted...
thelastgooduser posted...
some of the worst cinematography I've seen in a mainstream blockbuster

There are ways to tell that someone doesn't actually know much about film.

This is one of them.

I'm inclined to agree. While I thought the movie was just okay overall, I did have issues with it and the cinematography definitely wasn't one of them. In fact, it was one of the things I thought they were completely on point with.
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 9:46:57 AM
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Highwind07 posted...
Ok so everyone just forgot that Blade existed or didn't pay attention till now.

Yes, they did.
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 9:48:17 AM
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Kitt posted...
Highwind07 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Highwind07 posted...
Ok so everyone just forgot that Blade existed or didn't pay attention till now.


Marvel did .


Tbqh I watched it so long ago that I didn't even remember it until Black Panther came out and people were saying that he was the first Black superhero to have his own feature film.

I think most people misinterpreted it when people were saying that. Most likely they were talking about the first MCU black character to get a feature length film.

No, they weren't. Those conversations were all in response to Wonder Woman, and the perception that DCEU was more 'progressive.'
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TheoryzC
07/11/18 9:49:44 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
Highwind07 posted...
Ok so everyone just forgot that Blade existed or didn't pay attention till now.

Yes, they did.

No they didn't lol
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pogo_rabid
07/11/18 9:52:33 AM
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BP was alright, if I had to rank it, it'd be right in the middle of the MCU films.
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jimbiz
07/11/18 9:57:15 AM
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People here are still butthurt about the success of Black Panther. Its amazing
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Nomadic View
07/11/18 9:58:48 AM
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I thought it was a fairly average Marvel movie.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 10:00:43 AM
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CEman literally getting triggered by a super successful black saying that if you give black people legitimate chances and resources in media (moonlight, get out, black panther), that they will produce great work...not surprising.

And yall continue to wonder why this place has become known as a alt right hive ground
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 10:01:49 AM
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Nomadic View posted...
I thought it was a fairly average Marvel movie.


Cool. The overwhelming majority disagrees with you, so what point were you trying to make? BP was an objectively massive worldwide success.
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Nomadic View
07/11/18 10:09:56 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Nomadic View posted...
I thought it was a fairly average Marvel movie.


Cool. The overwhelming majority disagrees with you, so what point were you trying to make? BP was an objectively massive worldwide success.


http://www.dictionary.com/browse/opinion?s=t
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Jiggy101011
07/11/18 10:10:27 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
CEman literally getting triggered by a super successful black saying that if you give black people legitimate chances and resources in media (moonlight, get out, black panther), that they will produce great work...not surprising.

And yall continue to wonder why this place has become known as a alt right hive ground


I think this is a case of people not reading the article and basing their opinion off of the article title. It happens all the time.
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 10:10:49 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
CEman literally getting triggered by a super successful black saying that if you give black people legitimate chances and resources in media (moonlight, get out, black panther), that they will produce great work...not surprising.

And yall continue to wonder why this place has become known as a alt right hive ground

If that's all his problem is, why doesn't he offer those opportunities?
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buddhamonster
07/11/18 10:11:42 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
He does know black panther has been a character in comics for many decades right? Marvel didn't just make him up for the movie.


Hell, its not even the first time he appeared in the Marvel movies.
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cjsdowg
07/11/18 10:16:29 AM
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Honest question: Are the people who are complaining about this ... did you guys read what he said. It doesn't seem like it.
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KStateKing17
07/11/18 10:17:33 AM
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I saw the movie for the first time last week and thought it was a good movie. I think some people just nitpicked and complained because of the hype.
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Kitt
07/11/18 10:22:49 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
Kitt posted...
Highwind07 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Highwind07 posted...
Ok so everyone just forgot that Blade existed or didn't pay attention till now.


Marvel did .


Tbqh I watched it so long ago that I didn't even remember it until Black Panther came out and people were saying that he was the first Black superhero to have his own feature film.

I think most people misinterpreted it when people were saying that. Most likely they were talking about the first MCU black character to get a feature length film.

No, they weren't.

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FrisbeeDude posted...
Nomadic View posted...
I thought it was a fairly average Marvel movie.


Cool. The overwhelming majority disagrees with you, so what point were you trying to make? BP was an objectively massive worldwide success.

Lord forbid he have an opinion.
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joestarrr
07/11/18 10:26:33 AM
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He's right, and access to resources has always been fucked if you aren't lucky enough to be white
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AcFan87
07/11/18 10:29:16 AM
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Man, some people will never be happy will they?
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
07/11/18 10:53:19 AM
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AcFan87 posted...
Man, some people will never be happy will they?

i love how cemen unironically say variations on old racist thinking
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Smashingpmkns
07/11/18 10:58:41 AM
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He actually brings up some valid points. Black Panther isn't a "we fucking made it bros!" Moment. It's another stepping stone for the future of Hollywood's acceptance for black directors. I would say the same for Get Out too.
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Veggeta X
07/11/18 11:03:25 AM
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I didn't read the article but it looks like what he is saying is something positive, not negative.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 11:06:31 AM
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Nomadic View posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Nomadic View posted...
I thought it was a fairly average Marvel movie.


Cool. The overwhelming majority disagrees with you, so what point were you trying to make? BP was an objectively massive worldwide success.


http://www.dictionary.com/browse/opinion?s=t


"Its my opinion!"

cool.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 11:07:29 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
CEman literally getting triggered by a super successful black saying that if you give black people legitimate chances and resources in media (moonlight, get out, black panther), that they will produce great work...not surprising.

And yall continue to wonder why this place has become known as a alt right hive ground

If that's all his problem is, why doesn't he offer those opportunities?


1. I'm sure he does
2. This absolves major record and movie companies refusing to put black people in charge how?
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 11:08:49 AM
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joestarrr posted...
He's right, and access to resources has always been fucked if you aren't lucky enough to be white

You don't think that, between all the rich black sports stars, rappers, and comedians, a high-end movie production company can be created?

If the argument is that tuere JUST needs to be money, why can't those rich black people create a production company?
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 11:09:27 AM
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"Recent success shows that if you actually give black people in media power and resources, they can produce great things. This should be happening more"

If your response to that is to get defensive, you need to take a look in the mirror
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FLUFFYGERM
07/11/18 11:09:35 AM
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If you want examples of how toothless and nonsensical FrisbeeDude's complaints about the alt right are, just look at the two topics that are up about the Guild Wars 2 firings. Dude literally says everything is alt right.
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