Current Events > New GOP bill proposes 15-year sentence for people engaging in antifa behavior

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KKK or waving nazi flags and murdering people is coo tho
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metralo posted...

KKK or waving nazi flags and murdering people is coo tho

This law targets the KKK. The southern state laws this was based on was originally created because of the KKK.

This targets all masked rioters.

Stop believing this propaganda

lol do you think that kkk actually mask themselves these days

thats cute
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considering the bill explicitly includes "antifa" in the name, there's no reason to think this isn't an attempt at federally criminalizing protest that law enforcement or government disagrees with

Mal_Fet posted...

Antifa is a literal domestic terrorist group, soooooo who cares

And they've killed exactly one person, so they're pretty shitty terrorists next to non-terror white supremacists.

The Nazis looked pretty intimidating in Charlottesville and they aren't getting a fancy bill named after them.
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treewojima posted...

considering the bill explicitly includes "antifa" in the name, there's no reason to think this isn't an attempt at federally criminalizing protest that law enforcement or government disagrees with

Ding. All they have to do is "frighten" somebody. Meaning just wear a mask and it's enough to get 15 years, more than most killings get.

asagi_mode_gone posted...

treewojima posted...

considering the bill explicitly includes "antifa" in the name, there's no reason to think this isn't an attempt at federally criminalizing protest that law enforcement or government disagrees with

Ding. All they have to do is "frighten" somebody. Meaning just wear a mask and it's enough to get 15 years, more than most killings get.

nah dude this is TOTALLY aimed at the kkk

btw i frequently post racist and incel shit
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neobolsheviks can go to hell

15 years seems like overkill though
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JE19426 posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

Antifa is a literal domestic terrorist group

Antifa isn't a group at all, so it certainly isn't a terrorist group.

Actually it is

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235

Confidential documents call the anarchists that seek to counter white supremacists domestic terrorists.

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Mal_Fet posted...

Antifa is a literal domestic terrorist group, soooooo who cares

more than 30 years of antifa activity, there has been one confirmed fatality caused by an antifa group member in 1993, when a Nazi in Portland, Oregon, was shot during a fight at a gas station. Far-right extremists, by contrast, were responsible for 670 fatalities, 3,053 injuries and 4,420 attacks in the United States from 1990 to 2012, according to a report from the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point.

Even if we class Antifa as a domestic terrorist group, the people they fight against do more damage to more people - and by all means cause more domestic terror.

Antifa is about cleaning the streets of violent Neo-Nazi scum, people who pose an actual threat. They have one reported fatality compared to thousands caused by the racist dipshits they oppose.

Why would you be so spooked and angry at a group of people who only plan to fight the already radicalised and violent?
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because mal sympathizes with the people they beat up

TheMikh posted...

neobolsheviks can go to hell

15 years seems like overkill though

what in the hell is a neo-Bolshevik? I wasn't aware we had a serious Marxist-Leninist problem in the US

Esrac posted...

I disagree, when they share common cause, methods, etc.

You didn't even read your link did you? It makes it quite obvious that the only common method is to get organised. Which is hardly a method, seeing as how it doesn't list a method for getting organised. Ok, it lists several and makes it quite clear that anyone can get organised however they want.

People form antifa subgroups because they want to partake in the kind of violent resistance and revolution that the overarching movement is about.

That's pretty strange since neither of you links mention that. Hell both of them point out people of multiple different political orientations call themselves Antifa, so what kind of revolution would they have?

Mal_Fet posted...

Actually it is

Do you have a source to back that up? I assume not since you just gave one source, and it doesn't back up your claim.

MrMallard posted...

Antifa is about cleaning the streets of violent Neo-Nazi scum, people who pose an actual threat.

lmfao

Yeah, they really showed that immigrant limo driver when they set fire to his car. And those Starbucks employees who had to miss a day's pay because some Antifa assholes broke their windows. And a jewish conservative moderate who they sent death threats to because he had the nerve to speak at an event he was invited to. And all those non-Nazi people they assault with deadly weapons.

Great job, Antifa. You're really "cleaning up the streets" by ruining normal people's days.

They will ensure 4 more years of Trump for sure at this rate.
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Mal_Fet posted...

They will ensure 4 more years of Trump for sure at this rate.

And white supremacists attack people on the regular and have for an extremely long time. Shouldn't that have assured no Republicans should win any election ever? What makes Antifa super extra detestable?
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Here's a video off working class people cheering as Antifa scum get arrested for blocking a bus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCNlHWQSHWc" data-time="

When a movement claims to be fighting against fascism and supporting the working class, does seeing a bunch of working class people get pissed at them for blocking a tram and then cheering as police slam them to the ground make you think that maybe, just maybe, Antifa is full of shit?
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hockeybub89 posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

They will ensure 4 more years of Trump for sure at this rate.

And white supremacists attack people on the regular and have for an extremely long time. Shouldn't that have assured no Republicans should win any election ever? What makes Antifa super extra detestable?

I mean if your only defense of Antifa is "at least they aren't Nazis" then you've pretty much proven my point
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Mal_Fet posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

They will ensure 4 more years of Trump for sure at this rate.

And white supremacists attack people on the regular and have for an extremely long time. Shouldn't that have assured no Republicans should win any election ever? What makes Antifa super extra detestable?

I mean if your only defense of Antifa is "at least they aren't Nazis" then you've pretty much proven my point

Because it isn't both, so constantly screaming "This will keep the left out of power even longer" is fucking stupid. If white supremacy doesn't destroy the entire right side of the spectrum, then Antifa certainly doesn't destroy the left. Neither should define a side.

And again, Antifa is the worst terror group ever as they are wildly underperforming compared to any of their peers. 1 death in 30 years and property damage.
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hockeybub89 posted...

Because it isn't both, so constantly screaming "This will keep the left out of power even longer" is fucking stupid. And again, Antifa is the worst terror group ever as they are wildly underperforming compared to any of their peers.

I didn't say they were the "worst" terrorist group ever.

Can you read?
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Damn, did I really set off Mal_Fet three hours after he made his initial post?
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hockeybub89 posted...

Because it isn't both, so constantly screaming "This will keep the left out of power even longer" is fucking stupid. If white supremacy doesn't destroy the entire right side of the spectrum, then Antifa certainly doesn't destroy the left. Neither should define a side.

And again, Antifa is the worst terror group ever as they are wildly underperforming compared to any of their peers. 1 death in 30 years and property damage.

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And they're still a domestic terrorist group.

Are you calling Politico fake news now? Because you turning on Politico would be more hilarious than you turning on Antifa
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and it begins

and i know trolling here is funny, but when you're freedom is taken will you be trolling then

huh will yah
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iHuman posted...

and it begins

and i know trolling here is funny, but when you're freedom is taken will you be trolling then

huh will yah

You never had the freedom to riot and hit people with bike locks.

Sorry you had to learn it this way
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Mal_Fet posted...

And they're still a domestic terrorist group.

Are you calling Politico fake news now? Because you turning on Politico would be more hilarious than you turning on Antifa

Oh so now we can appeal to authority? I was unaware I had a stake in Politico or was calling them fake news. Authorities consider people identifying as anti-fascist may commit domestic terror activities. That is hardly fact of life. People in authority positions consider a lot of things. No one agrees with all of them.
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Mal_Fet posted...

And they're still a domestic terrorist group.

Are you calling Politico fake news now? Because you turning on Politico would be more hilarious than you turning on Antifa

Politico doesn't call them a domestic terrorist group, in the link you gave. If you meant to give a different link, feel free to provide it.

i'm not a liberal so don't toss me your lib bait
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JE19426 posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

And they're still a domestic terrorist group.

Are you calling Politico fake news now? Because you turning on Politico would be more hilarious than you turning on Antifa

Politico doesn't call them a domestic terrorist group, in the link you gave. If you meant to give a different link, feel free to provide it.

Politico confirmed that the DHS does.
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Mal_Fet posted...

iHuman posted...

and it begins

and i know trolling here is funny, but when you're freedom is taken will you be trolling then

huh will yah

You never had the freedom to riot and hit people with bike locks.

Sorry you had to learn it this way

We already have laws against violence. Singling out Antifa and using vague language in a proposed bill seems very odd. I was unaware Antifa members were not currently affected by American criminal law.
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you know Mal, you're better at posting lame meme images en masse than you are at arguing or articulating any sort of point

Considering the most common ANTIFA tactic is to hide behind a wall of hundred-pound college girls, throw a punch and then run like a bitch - I dont see the problem.
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hockeybub89 posted...

We already have laws against violence. Singling out Antifa and using vague language in a proposed bill seems very odd. I was unaware Antifa members were not currently affected by American criminal law.

Hard to enforce violence laws when Antifa intentionally dress alike and wear face masks so that they can punch people and then run away like cowards into the mass of people who are dressed like them, making it night impossible to be identified by police.
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So the GOP is against an anti-fascist movement, wow.
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Mal_Fet posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

We already have laws against violence. Singling out Antifa and using vague language in a proposed bill seems very odd. I was unaware Antifa members were not currently affected by American criminal law.

Hard to enforce violence laws when Antifa intentionally dress alike and wear face masks so that they can punch people and then run away like cowards into the mass of people who are dressed like them, making it night impossible to be identified by police.

and thats worth 15 years?

lol
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0TiamaT0 posted...

Considering the most common ANTIFA tactic is to hide behind a wall of hundred-pound college girls, throw a punch and then run like a bitch - I dont see the problem.

I also love how they always dress up like SWAT team members and get their asses handed to them by Chad in flip-flops every time.
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Mal_Fet posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

We already have laws against violence. Singling out Antifa and using vague language in a proposed bill seems very odd. I was unaware Antifa members were not currently affected by American criminal law.

Hard to enforce violence laws when Antifa intentionally dress alike and wear face masks so that they can punch people and then run away like cowards into the mass of people who are dressed like them, making it night impossible to be identified by police.

Aren't there already laws about that too? And how are you going to arrest someone for wearing a mask if them wearing a mask is what is preventing you from arresting them? Are police currently arresting masked rioters and releasing them because they don't think of removing the masks so they can identify them? How would a law about "oppression and intimidation" help you catch unidentified rioters?
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They are f***ing terrorists. Good.
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agreed, good! but dont you DARE call anyone nazis or kkk. that should also be grounds for jail time! take that, liherals!
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Cheater87 posted...

So the GOP is against an anti-fascist movement, wow.

Literally
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Esrac posted...

What would you call a collection of people who gather together in the same place at the same time and for the same reason while wearing quasi-uniform clothing and committing acts together in unison under the same banner?

Neo Nazi's.
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metralo posted...

agreed, good! but dont you DARE call anyone nazis or kkk. that should also be grounds for jail time! take that, liherals!

Because most of the people they call nazis arent - its just a smear tactic, used to try and justify their thuggery.
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yeah, those people waving nazi flags and supporting white nationalism; not nazis. thats what i said

haha
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Mal_Fet posted...

Politico confirmed that the DHS does.

Not in the link you providing. If you have a link that says DHS considers Antifa to be a terrorist group, please give it.

metralo posted...

yeah, those people waving nazi flags and supporting white nationalism; not nazis. thats what i said

haha

"Jews. Will not. Replace us."
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This is so extremist wtf. Im so fucking sick of the GOP.
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i dont get why stopping people from intimidating and assaulting others who are behaving lawfully is a bad thing

eggcorn posted...

Most antifa aren't antifa, they're anarchists hiding behind a decent cause.

...most Antifa where always anarchists, before some liberals jumped on board because of Trump.
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Cheater87 posted...

So the GOP is against an anti-fascist movement, wow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCNlHWQSHWc" data-time="

^ Look at all those FASCISTS that Antifa prevented from making their commute! Way to go, Antifa!

hockeybub89 posted...

Aren't there already laws about that too? And how are you going to arrest someone for wearing a mask if them wearing a mask is what is preventing you from arresting them? Are police currently arresting masked rioters and releasing them because they don't think of removing the masks so they can identify them? How would a law about "oppression and intimidation" help you catch unidentified rioters?

Because you can arrest the whole group for assisting violent assholes by hiding them in a sea of lookalikes.

Seems pretty obvious
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How long until it becomes a crime to be a member of the democratic party?

Maybe Trump will wait until Ginsburg dies, though... it would be easier then to have the courts rubber stamp it. I mean, he already started planting the idea that democrats support terrorists.
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frozenshock posted...

How long until it becomes a crime to be a member of the democratic party?

at this rate? within the year. and the racist neckbeards on CE will support it
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