Current Events > Omg, both of the Wachowski brothers are women now???

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Abyssea
07/10/18 11:47:53 PM
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when did this happen? I got nostalgic and was looking up stuff about the Matrix, and turns out they are both trans women now. So they're the Wachowski Sisters now I guess. :o Am I the last person to find out about this or what?

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They're both beautiful. The one on the left makes me think of an organic coffee house barista. The one on the right makes me think of a fun librarian.
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_Near_
07/10/18 11:49:16 PM
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they prefer just to be called "The Wachowskis"
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C_Pain
07/10/18 11:49:49 PM
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Huh, I only knew one of them was.
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Big_Nabendu
07/10/18 11:49:52 PM
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I thought one just changed
They are both fucking disgusting
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ImNotAnIdiot
07/10/18 11:51:00 PM
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Abyssea posted...
They're both beautiful.

lol
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Doe
07/10/18 11:51:11 PM
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YellowSUV
07/10/18 11:51:29 PM
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I love bringing this up to piss off red pill people.
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solosnake
07/10/18 11:51:33 PM
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I wonder if they had incest as kids?

sorry i mean no offense, just genuinely curious.
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bevan306
07/10/18 11:51:35 PM
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yeah, it sure adds a layer of humour to that whole red pill thing
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
07/10/18 11:52:56 PM
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They jumped on the bandwagon trying to be cool is all it looks like.
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MrToothHasYou
07/10/18 11:52:56 PM
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YellowSUV posted...
I love bringing this up to piss off red pill people.

lmao that's beautiful
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LinksLiege
07/10/18 11:53:00 PM
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Isn't there also some convoluted-as-fuck theory that the Matrix series (or at least the first one) is a huge parallel to being trans somehow?

I vaguely recall something about that.
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YellowSUV
07/10/18 11:55:03 PM
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LinksLiege posted...
Isn't there also some convoluted-as-fuck theory that the Matrix series (or at least the first one) is a huge parallel to being trans somehow?

I vaguely recall something about that.


I wouldn't doubt it. If someone can make up that Jar Jar Binks was intended to be a Sith Lord originally, I can see someone making a convoluted theory for the Matrix.
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Anteaterking
07/10/18 11:55:11 PM
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LinksLiege posted...
Isn't there also some convoluted-as-fuck theory that the Matrix series (or at least the first one) is a huge parallel to being trans somehow?

I vaguely recall something about that.


I do know that the Matrix series follows the Heroine's Journey archetype rather than the Hero's Journey.
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treewojima
07/10/18 11:55:24 PM
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YellowSUV posted...
I love bringing this up to piss off red pill people.


... holy shit, i never made the connection

this is amazing
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LightningAce11
07/10/18 11:57:34 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
LinksLiege posted...
Isn't there also some convoluted-as-fuck theory that the Matrix series (or at least the first one) is a huge parallel to being trans somehow?

I vaguely recall something about that.


I do know that the Matrix series follows the Heroine's Journey archetype rather than the Hero's Journey.

Wait, how so?
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Cornmuffins
07/10/18 11:58:00 PM
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It's a thing. It's kind of interesting, but it definitely tries too hard:
https://twitter.com/supership79/status/764646652665790465?lang=en

Anyways I thought this was a thing for a while i/r/t the Wachowski's?
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ProtoManSPx
07/11/18 12:00:40 AM
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LightningAce11 posted...
@Anteaterking posted...
LinksLiege posted...
Isn't there also some convoluted-as-fuck theory that the Matrix series (or at least the first one) is a huge parallel to being trans somehow?

I vaguely recall something about that.


I do know that the Matrix series follows the Heroine's Journey archetype rather than the Hero's Journey.

Wait, how so?
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Doe
07/11/18 12:02:04 AM
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I have not heard of the Heroine's journey but The Hero's Journey is about a character's inner development and how they conquer a sort of vice or fear and become a better person.
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Anteaterking
07/11/18 12:02:40 AM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Wait, how so?


I don't remember all of the details of the difference between the two (this was high school literature class), but one of the main ones is that rather than defeating the dragon/evil/etc. the heroine negotiates/reconciles with it instead.

So in this case, Neo doesn't fight and defeat the machines but makes a deal with them for coexistence of humans and machines .
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MorbidFaithless
07/11/18 12:04:45 AM
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Honestly they both look better as women lol good for them. Love the Matrix.
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Abyssea
07/11/18 12:06:32 AM
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YellowSUV posted...
LinksLiege posted...
Isn't there also some convoluted-as-fuck theory that the Matrix series (or at least the first one) is a huge parallel to being trans somehow?

I vaguely recall something about that.


I wouldn't doubt it. If someone can make up that Jar Jar Binks was intended to be a Sith Lord originally, I can see someone making a convoluted theory for the Matrix.


well, I do know that the blond lady in the first movie was supposed to be a guy in the real world who just looked like a woman in the matrix (the residual self image thing), but they cut it for being too controversial at the time.
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PMarth2002
07/11/18 12:12:10 AM
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LinksLiege posted...
Isn't there also some convoluted-as-fuck theory that the Matrix series (or at least the first one) is a huge parallel to being trans somehow?

I vaguely recall something about that.


As I understand it, its mostly subtext and thematic, specifically how people refer to Neo. The badguys and his bosses in the Matrix calling him Mr. Anderson. Morpheus and company calling him Neo, and his declaration in the subway scene where he declares that "My name is Neo" parallels coming out as trans.

I think its ambiguous enough where you can get pretty much anything about it though. Moviebob did a really that good episode on the Matrix and he addresses the trans themes in it (although thats only part of the video).
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ChiefSosa
07/11/18 12:14:00 AM
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yikes
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ssj-kenobi
07/11/18 12:14:41 AM
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you know, I'm sure there are transgenders out there but I never got the vibe that these two. at least the fatter one as being real transgenders.

it seemed to be more of a fetish for them and from what I have read they were into really heavy BDSM . so maybe they just took the BDSM a little too far. but hey I dunno as long as they are happy and aren't harming anyone who cares
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Cornmuffins
07/11/18 12:22:47 AM
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Wow shit wrong topic
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Abyssea
07/11/18 8:09:21 AM
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ssj-kenobi posted...
you know, I'm sure there are transgenders out there but I never got the vibe that these two. at least the fatter one as being real transgenders.

it seemed to be more of a fetish for them and from what I have read they were into really heavy BDSM . so maybe they just took the BDSM a little too far. but hey I dunno as long as they are happy and aren't harming anyone who cares


I don't see what BDSM had to do with transgenderism tho
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Abyssea
07/11/18 11:11:07 AM
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averagejoel
07/11/18 11:14:47 AM
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YellowSUV posted...
LinksLiege posted...
Isn't there also some convoluted-as-fuck theory that the Matrix series (or at least the first one) is a huge parallel to being trans somehow?

I vaguely recall something about that.


I wouldn't doubt it. If someone can make up that Jar Jar Binks was intended to be a Sith Lord originally, I can see someone making a convoluted theory for the Matrix.

it's not convoluted

someone on twitter did a transgender reading of The Matrix, and there's a ton of stuff:

https://twitter.com/supership79/status/764646652665790465
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iHuman
07/11/18 11:15:44 AM
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wtf

i didn't plan on watching the matrix ever again anyway
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Abyssea
07/11/18 12:43:54 PM
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iHuman posted...
wtf

i didn't plan on watching the matrix ever again anyway


well, they weren't trans when they made the movies I don't think.
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_RETS_
07/11/18 12:45:38 PM
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Turns out they are both actually still men

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Abyssea
07/11/18 12:45:57 PM
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_RETS_ posted...
Turns out they are both actually still men

;)


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Slip-N-Slide
07/11/18 12:47:52 PM
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YellowSUV posted...
LinksLiege posted...
Isn't there also some convoluted-as-fuck theory that the Matrix series (or at least the first one) is a huge parallel to being trans somehow?

I vaguely recall something about that.


I wouldn't doubt it. If someone can make up that Jar Jar Binks was intended to be a Sith Lord originally, I can see someone making a convoluted theory for the Matrix.

The biggest theory I've heard for The Matrix is that Agent Smith is actually The One instead of Neo.
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clearaflagrantj
07/11/18 12:51:52 PM
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Cornmuffins posted...
It's a thing. It's kind of interesting, but it definitely tries too hard:
https://twitter.com/supership79/status/764646652665790465?lang=en

Anyways I thought this was a thing for a while i/r/t the Wachowski's?

I like that take but I think it's a bit of a stretch.
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vocedelmorte
07/11/18 12:55:48 PM
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Thats kinda cool, i didn't know
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Crepes
07/11/18 1:02:27 PM
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Slip-N-Slide posted...
YellowSUV posted...
LinksLiege posted...
Isn't there also some convoluted-as-fuck theory that the Matrix series (or at least the first one) is a huge parallel to being trans somehow?

I vaguely recall something about that.


Yeah I like this.
I wouldn't doubt it. If someone can make up that Jar Jar Binks was intended to be a Sith Lord originally, I can see someone making a convoluted theory for the Matrix.

The biggest theory I've heard for The Matrix is that Agent Smith is actually The One instead of Neo.

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ChiefSosa
07/11/18 1:12:23 PM
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Abyssea posted...
ssj-kenobi posted...
you know, I'm sure there are transgenders out there but I never got the vibe that these two. at least the fatter one as being real transgenders.

it seemed to be more of a fetish for them and from what I have read they were into really heavy BDSM . so maybe they just took the BDSM a little too far. but hey I dunno as long as they are happy and aren't harming anyone who cares


I don't see what BDSM had to do with transgenderism tho

crossdressers: bdsm thing

crossdressers could claim to be trans to have access to performing there fetish 100% of the time
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Santo3485
07/11/18 1:15:50 PM
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This is like what? 10-15 year old news.
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DarthGravid
07/11/18 1:41:30 PM
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I'm surprised that this hasn't been posted yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebXFmWbPtaQ" data-time="


This is how I found out. Doesn't change anything for me.
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AcFan87
07/11/18 1:42:09 PM
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The actual fuck........??????????
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