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SenTedCruz
07/06/18 11:34:34 PM
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"Thanks for trying to tell me what we do internally, my dude 9_9," she replied. She then retweeted Deroir's remarks to her larger Twitter following, saying: "Today in being a female game dev: 'Allow me--a person who does not work with you--explain to you how you do your job.'"

Minutes later, she added: "like, the next rando asshat who attempts to explain the concept of branching dialogue to me--as if, you know, having worked in game narrative for a fucking DECADE, I have never heard of it--is getting instablocked. PSA."


Man. Self esteem issues
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Balnazarr
07/06/18 11:35:23 PM
#53:


chrono625 posted...
Balnazarr posted...
D E E G S posted...
Times we live in, these days you can end a career in 140 characters or less if what you say pisses off enough people. That said, nothing targeted at her from Deroir warranted her going off on him. I mean really? What exactly did he do wrong? He was casual and respectful in his 4 tweets and she just shit all over him for it. I don't believe this alone warranted firing but again, this is the times we live in. Don't do twitter, it's just a ticking time bomb. Eventually you'll tweet something you'll regret forever.


Same happens irl too. Don't. be. stupid when you'reon the clock.


Tbf she wasnt on the clock. BUT her Twitter handle did show her as an ANet employee.


She was repping as ANet. Even if she weren't her actions still reflect on them.
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D E E G S
07/06/18 11:41:40 PM
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Leanaunfurled posted...
D E E G S posted...
Don't do twitter, it's just a ticking time bomb. Eventually you'll tweet something you'll regret forever.

Only if you're a crappy person that lacks a filter in what you send out for the world to see. >_> If not, you're good!


I maintain that twitter lacks context, tone, and nuance due to how it is constructed and it is so easy to let a single tweet be spun for a headline any which way you want. So it's clear, I'm not defending Price, the more I've read on this as it sounds like she has a history of twitter escapades like this.

At the same time, it can be very easy to type something on twitter that you'll later come to regret. I don't like social media, nor do I have the vanity to attach my real name to anything I say online. Better to stay anonymous, at least that way I can speak freely, always try respectfully, but freely nonetheless in case someone wants to spin a narrative about a post 10 years ago or some other such nonsense.
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MrPeppers
07/06/18 11:52:13 PM
#55:


D E E G S posted...
I maintain that twitter lacks context, tone, and nuance due to how it is constructed and it is so easy to let a single tweet be spun for a headline any which way you want. So it's clear, I'm not defending Price, the more I've read on this as it sounds like she has a history of twitter escapades like this.

At the same time, it can be very easy to type something on twitter that you'll later come to regret. I don't like social media, nor do I have the vanity to attach my real name to anything I say online. Better to stay anonymous, at least that way I can speak freely, always try respectfully, but freely nonetheless in case someone wants to spin a narrative about a post 10 years ago or some other such nonsense.


Yes and no. One should definitely have enough restraint and foresight to avoid dropping controversial opinions and to maintain a relatively professional demeanor at all times on social media. Especially when your actual name is tied to your account and there's no anonymity. You actually have the luxury with social media of seeing what you type, processing whether or not it's appropriate, then hitting send.

Unfortunately, unless you're a famous personality, you should be professional enough on social media at all times.
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Neoconkers
07/07/18 9:39:27 AM
#56:


DarthAragorn posted...
Almost like if an employee of a university had told a major donor to fuck off

while wearing a uniform that says "I represent X University! on the back"

like seriously, I didn't realise that social media training was something that was really, truly required for these companies. How hard is it not to flip out and insult your customers publicly? All you need to do is ignore them. I have to speak to all sorts of people through work, you grin and bear it.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/07/18 11:13:36 AM
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Even when nobody else will defend garbage behavior from the gaming industry elite, FrisbeeDude is here to whiteknight a poor defenseless woman and deflect to gamergate.
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Darksaber310
07/07/18 11:23:27 AM
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I don't like this, the same as I don't like most private attacks on people's lives over innocuous twitter comments, but it still gets the fairest of nexts from me, because I also love the leftist censorship brigade getting hoist with their own petard.

Don't cultivate, create, and encourage this atmosphere if you only like it when it targets the "correct" side.
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CreekCo
07/07/18 11:25:33 AM
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It's always amusing to see the SJW community eat their own. The amount of vitriol and spite is insane; there's no way I'd want a Twitter account.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/07/18 11:28:04 AM
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Darksaber310 posted...
I don't like this, the same as I don't like most private attacks on people's lives over innocuous twitter comments

Her twitter comments were directly related to her work and she was shitting directly on the fanbase that spends money on the product of her "work"

It's akin to shitting on your clients on a public facebook profile directly after serving them.

Of course you're going to get fired.
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Ps2Twilight
07/07/18 11:29:08 AM
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Back_Stabbath posted...
Hexenherz posted...
I read this article earlier and I'm not defending the writers but I think it's kind of bullshit that it doesn't show the original comments of the people. I want to see how inflammatory or innocuous they were.

yongyea covered the incident pretty well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5sDwspGgUQ" data-time="


Holy crap.

Totally fair, next.
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meestermj
07/07/18 11:34:26 AM
#62:


She posted publicly about something, and then when someone joins the conversation she started she gets mad and plays the gender card?
Get fucked and enjoy unemployment for a while.
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garan
07/07/18 11:37:24 AM
#63:


Leanaunfurled posted...
The main problem, Jessica Price, hasn't been there long at all. I do feel a bit bad about Peter, but he willingly went into that mess and picked the batshit crazy side.

Fair, next though. Hard.


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Tyranius2
07/07/18 12:16:15 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
They got fired for THAT? Yikes. Gamergaters must've came out hard

Yeah the more I think about it, they shoulda just got a stern talking to. This aint fire worthy. Especially for the dude who has been there 13 years


Maybe for Peter. The woman deserved to be fired and I'm glad the company acted as swift as it did.

And the left has had people fired for a lot less than that.
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Metro2
07/07/18 2:00:39 PM
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Fluttershy462
07/07/18 2:04:35 PM
#66:


Wondering if the guy was already on the chopping block and ArenaNet was looking for an excuse to give him the axe. Undoubtedly letting go of someone so senior hurts them but also saves them a lot of money.
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FursonaNonGrata
07/07/18 2:08:18 PM
#67:


Gamer culture is fucking toxic
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Metro2
07/07/18 2:36:04 PM
#68:


Clip of Deroir before the incident, talking about how much he admire's Jessica Price:

https://clips.twitch.tv/CrypticMistyStingrayDxCat
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WaffIeElite
07/07/18 2:56:06 PM
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One more feminist out of the industry. A step towards a better tomorrow.
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Suchomimus
07/07/18 5:34:26 PM
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Good. She was outrageous.
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Zikten
07/07/18 5:35:56 PM
#71:


he said something very mild and she flew off the handle. she way overreacted.
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Vyrulisse
07/07/18 5:36:53 PM
#72:


Deroir is a chill guy and pretty cool. He didn't deserve that at all. Fair, next.
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Suchomimus
07/07/18 5:39:18 PM
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Just saw back in May that she said on Twitter that she was glad TotalBiscuit died so "he can no longer do any harm".

Wow. What a nasty human.
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Vyrulisse
07/07/18 5:40:11 PM
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People suspect she was probably on thin ice as it was. Imagine having to work under or with someone like that. Yikes.
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CreekCo
07/07/18 5:40:32 PM
#75:


That's why this was the last straw.
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Fluttershy462
07/07/18 11:41:26 PM
#76:


Ps2Twilight posted...
Back_Stabbath posted...
Hexenherz posted...
I read this article earlier and I'm not defending the writers but I think it's kind of bullshit that it doesn't show the original comments of the people. I want to see how inflammatory or innocuous they were.

yongyea covered the incident pretty well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5sDwspGgUQ" data-time="


Holy crap.

Totally fair, next.


Check out the offensively sexy figurine of a woman in the background, clearly a sign that he supports rape culture!
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Rimmer_Dall
07/08/18 4:35:03 AM
#77:


I love it when people have revelations like these.

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chrono625
07/08/18 3:57:41 PM
#78:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
I love it when people have revelations like these.

SbPU899


I mean, I'm glad people are realizing these "journalists" from polygon or verge have extreme bias.

But this has been the norm for almost 10 years.
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SpiritSephiroth
07/08/18 4:09:09 PM
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Andddd here come the social justice warriors on Twitter defending her.

Wasn't even a gender issue in the least but now they're making it one.
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Cookie Bag
07/08/18 4:14:01 PM
#80:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
Andddd here come the social justice warriors on Twitter defending her.

Wasn't even a gender issue in the least but now they're making it one.

Gotta latch to something to gather as many brainwashed people to defend their indefensible points.
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chrono625
07/08/18 4:20:12 PM
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Cookie Bag posted...
SpiritSephiroth posted...
Andddd here come the social justice warriors on Twitter defending her.

Wasn't even a gender issue in the least but now they're making it one.

Gotta latch to something to gather as many brainwashed people to defend their indefensible points.


It's actually scary how many people will blindly defend someone just because of their agenda.
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Cookie Bag
07/08/18 4:30:01 PM
#82:


chrono625 posted...
Cookie Bag posted...
SpiritSephiroth posted...
Andddd here come the social justice warriors on Twitter defending her.

Wasn't even a gender issue in the least but now they're making it one.

Gotta latch to something to gather as many brainwashed people to defend their indefensible points.


It's actually scary how many people will blindly defend someone just because of their agenda.

"I don't agree with this person but i will defend them anyways because i don't like the other side" seems to be a pretty fucking scary common theme these days, people defending the vilest shit just because of it.
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Rimmer_Dall
07/08/18 4:36:29 PM
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breNYnx
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Darkman124
07/08/18 4:42:58 PM
#85:


tldr:

Jessica Price blathered...
I'm not on the clock here.


ArenaNet posted...
Not any more, you're not.

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Rimmer_Dall
07/08/18 4:50:32 PM
#86:


Life comes at you fast.

http://archive.fo/qnRGu
Shdn't have to keep saying, but 1st only protects from gov censorship. Social/financial consequences are FREE SPEECH WORKING AS INTENDED.


KEK
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SpiritSephiroth
07/08/18 4:56:30 PM
#87:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
breNYnx


So much fucking misinformation whenever something like this happens. And it's such a coincidence that whenever this kind of misinformation spreads, it almost always supports the position of these "journalists" or social justice individuals. Fucking pathetic...
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Rimmer_Dall
07/08/18 4:57:57 PM
#88:


Everyone who dislikes Price is a Russian bot.

RgQCQO6
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dave_is_slick
07/08/18 5:02:19 PM
#89:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
Everyone who dislikes Price is a Russian bot.

RgQCQO6

How fucking stupid is this bitch?
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masterpug53
07/08/18 5:11:51 PM
#90:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
Everyone who dislikes Price is a Russian bot.

RgQCQO6


Bots were responsible for Ms. Price's intolerable behavior, apparently.

Actually, blaming it all on nanobots would have been a more respectable position than this.
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darkjedilink
07/08/18 5:16:15 PM
#91:


Blue_Inigo posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
They got fired for THAT? Yikes. Gamergaters must've came out hard

Yeah the more I think about it, they shoulda just got a stern talking to. This aint fire worthy. Especially for the dude who has been there 13 years

Attacking your company's media partners for absolutely no reason whatsoever isn't worthy of termination?
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SenTedCruz
07/08/18 5:39:26 PM
#92:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
Everyone who dislikes Price is a Russian bot.

RgQCQO6

>established, normal Twitter user

Read as: Blue checkmark.
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chrono625
07/08/18 5:42:37 PM
#93:


This woman and everyone like her need to be removed from earth.
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Rimmer_Dall
07/08/18 6:07:38 PM
#95:


DuranOfForcena posted...
her first mistake was thinking that she has any right to privacy or personal space on a public twitter account where she presented herself as an employee of a subsidiary organization of a publicly traded company. that alone is ridiculous as fuck. either set your fucking account to private, or accept the fact that your 13,000 "rando asshat" followers are going to want to respond to your tweets and generate discussion.

Nah, the mistake was attacking a person out of nowhere who happened to be a partner of the company and who happened to be one of the biggest community promoters of the game to the point he had an NPC in the game named after him long before she even joined the company as thanks for all the customers he had brought to the game. Even more, he had basically been sucking her dick in public prior to that, telling everyone what a great writer and person she was. She just couldn't keep a lid on her true colors after that AMA ended. Reminder that she's been fired from previous jobs for being a horrible piece of human garbage and ruining products, most notably Paizo of Pathfinder fame.

She knows her shit isn't private. She uses it to virtue signal. She's just pulling out all the stops in order to try to play the victim.
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Esrac
07/08/18 6:09:10 PM
#96:


masterpug53 posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
Everyone who dislikes Price is a Russian bot.

RgQCQO6


Bots were responsible for Ms. Price's intolerable behavior, apparently.

Actually, blaming it all on nanobots would have been a more respectable position than this.


I wouldn't really believe anything Brianna Wu says.

DuranOfForcena posted...
her first mistake was thinking that she has any right to privacy or personal space on a public twitter account where she presented herself as an employee of a subsidiary organization of a publicly traded company. that alone is ridiculous as fuck. either set your fucking account to private, or accept the fact that your 13,000 "rando asshat" followers are going to want to respond to your tweets and generate discussion.


Some of their tweets suggest something I mused on earlier. They think of their Twitter posts as part of a private space, which is why they cry harassment when they post something stupid on Twitter and a bunch of people respond by saying how stupid what they posted was.

But that is a fundamental misunderstanding of what Twitter is. Unless you specifically set your account to private or friends only or whatever, it isn't a private space for you. It is your seat at a public forum from where you can announce your thoughts and opinions. And where you can receive feedback on those thoughts. Even feedback you don't like.

It might be your personal Twitter account, but it isn't necessarily a private one.
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Rimmer_Dall
07/08/18 6:25:28 PM
#98:


DuranOfForcena posted...
she literally claimed in multiple tweets during her rant that her twitter account is a private space and that people were exerting ownership over her personal time by tweeting her.

She know's she's full of shit. She's a liar. She herself has used other peoples' "private" tweets as justification for them being fired in the past.
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Funkydog
07/08/18 6:27:36 PM
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
she literally claimed in multiple tweets during her rant that her twitter account is a private space and that people were exerting ownership over her personal time by tweeting her.

She know's she's full of shit. She's a liar. She herself has used other peoples' "private" tweets as justification for them being fired in the past.

No, I think some of them just genuinely think their public twitter is a private space. And definitely not public when making a comment about the AMA you just did. Is NO WAY anyone could infer you are carrying on a discussion or wanting input at all from that.
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SenTedCruz
07/08/18 6:28:50 PM
#101:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
She herself has used other peoples' "private" tweets as justification for them being fired in the past.

Yeah, this is exactly the part where I lose my sympathy and just say "karma". It always manages to come down to the same exact people.
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