Current Events > C/D Old people need to gtfo out of the workforce

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They are hoarding all of the well paying jobs and not making room for younger, brighter workers

How old do you consider "old"?

although slow and dangerous behind the wheel, still can serve a purpose
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BWLurker posted...

How old do you consider "old"?

65 and up.

After that point you're no longer useful, you are a burden

Youre definitely going to be one of those old people who bitches incessantly about the younger generation in 20 years
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man its actually gonna be terrifying when all these boomers retire
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my younger and brighter coworker uses the calculator on his cell phone to sum things from excel instead of using excel
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Balrog0 posted...

man its actually gonna be terrifying when all these boomers retire

It's going to be amazing, so many jobs will open up

yeah but then instead of boomers booming at work they'll be the new old people boomering it up all over everyone else's work and leisure activities
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JustMyOpinion posted...

Confirm. If you haven't saved up enough for retirement despite going through an unprecedented boom with cheap housing and cheap education and with social security well then too bad. That's on you. Let the next generation get their chance.

You just don't understand how hard it is for them, how do you expect them to be able to retire on a combined income of a meager $350,000 when they need to buy inground swimming pools, luxury SUVs, and 80" 4K TVs? Their next door neighbors just redid their kitchen so now they have to keep up, that's another $15,000 expense right there.

My mother complains how she can't retire, last year they spent $5K on window treatmeants, I don't even know what that means

clearaflagrantj posted...

BWLurker posted...

How old do you consider "old"?

65 and up.

After that point you're no longer useful, you are a burden

So how will they feed themselves and pay bills? Are you going to take care of them?

Or are you suggesting something far worse?
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They shouldnt need to be there. That wasnt a thing before obama was in office. Now peoples retirement funds dwindled so far because they were forced to buy medical insurance that nobody could afford. Now we have people well past retirement age working at grocery stores and restaurants.

Yeah, life was just better before obama.
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DarthGravid posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

BWLurker posted...

How old do you consider "old"?

65 and up.

After that point you're no longer useful, you are a burden

So how will they feed themselves and pay bills? Are you going to take care of them?

Or are you suggesting something far worse?

They should have planned for retirement.

Vamp_Aubrey posted...

my younger and brighter coworker uses the calculator on his cell phone to sum things from excel instead of using excel

I see people do this all the time and it makes me angry beyond measure. Using excel as a calculator is basic as all hell and people refuse to make their lives easier.

I have fucking macros that do what takes someone half a day to do in like 10 seconds. People need to start learning to use at least some basic excel functions.
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JustMyOpinion posted...

Confirm. If you haven't saved up enough for retirement despite going through an unprecedented boom with cheap housing and cheap education and with social security well then too bad. That's on you. Let the next generation get their chance.

That's great but what do you honestly expect a person to do if that's the situation they're in?

"Ah shame I didn't organise my life better, guess I'll just give up my job and end up homeless in the next year so that someone else can take my job"
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Payzmaykr posted...

They shouldnt need to be there. That wasnt a thing before obama was in office. Now peoples retirement funds dwindled so far because they were forced to buy medical insurance that nobody could afford. Now we have people well past retirement age working at grocery stores and restaurants.

Yeah, life was just better before obama.

"This is bait, son"

You can be old as long as you're competent with a computer.

It's not the network admin's job to train you how to use Word.
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clearaflagrantj posted...

They should have planned for retirement.

But they haven't, so that's too bad I guess.

I absolutely would not just give up my job if I needed it to survive out of some kind of noble effort to help out the next generation.
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Payzmaykr posted...

They shouldnt need to be there. That wasnt a thing before obama was in office. Now peoples retirement funds dwindled so far because they were forced to buy medical insurance that nobody could afford. Now we have people well past retirement age working at grocery stores and restaurants.

Yeah, life was just better before obama.

Your revisionist history and obsession with Obama are both ridiculous

Jiek_Fafn posted...

Vamp_Aubrey posted...

my younger and brighter coworker uses the calculator on his cell phone to sum things from excel instead of using excel

I see people do this all the time and it makes me angry beyond measure. Using excel as a calculator is basic as all hell and people refuse to make their lives easier.

I have fucking macros that do what takes someone half a day to do in like 10 seconds. People need to start learning to use at least some basic excel functions.

The worst part is Excel automatically spits out the sum, average, and count of all highlighted cells in the bottom right corner. All his coworker would need to do is select the damn cells.

I fucking love Excel, I tinker around in it for most of my working day, I like figuring out new ways to organize my budget/investment data.

pogo_rabid posted...

You can be old as long as you're competent with a computer.

It's not the network admin's job to train you how to use Word.

My coworker keeps a magnifying glass next to her monitor to zoom in and read small text.

A literal, physical magnifying glass.

pinky0926 posted...

But they haven't, so that's too bad I guess.

I absolutely would not just give up my job if I needed it to survive out of some kind of noble effort to help out the next generation.

Well then you'll be the decrepit 70 year old that doesn't know how to use the new Quantum Hyper Computer with iBrainLink that gets made fun of by the fresh graduating class of 2074.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0nkmFGfeec" data-time="

you will appreciate this clear
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clearaflagrantj posted...

DarthGravid posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

BWLurker posted...

How old do you consider "old"?

65 and up.

After that point you're no longer useful, you are a burden

So how will they feed themselves and pay bills? Are you going to take care of them?

Or are you suggesting something far worse?

They should have planned for retirement.

It's not that simple. But then, I can guess from your attitude that you have never gone hungry or been cold. Daddy's money goes a long way towards teaching these kinds of attitudes. Not everyone has that. And don't say, "they should have worked harder", because that doesn't matter either. CEO's sit on their asses and play golf while people that make 1/50th of the money do the actual labor. I'm not saying that they don't deserve to be paid, but when you make that kind of money, it's easy to forget what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck.
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clearaflagrantj posted...

The worst part is Excel automatically spits out the sum, average, and count of all highlighted cells in the bottom right corner. All his coworker would need to do is select the damn cells.

I fucking love Excel, I tinker around in it for most of my working day, I like figuring out new ways to organize my budget/investment data.

Not so long ago I temped at a government agency in the admin department in between jobs. They gave me a data entry project they were sure would take me a week as they had to do it yearly and that's how long it took their senior admin assistants.

Took me 1 hour to figure out the appropriate excel function to do it, which automatically sorted all of their thousands of records into the format they needed. They said I should contract as a consultant for them after that.

I'd never fucking dream of working there because it's just full of dinosaurs who are going to be there until they die, but it was interesting to see how far behind they were in basic data entry.
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DarthGravid posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

DarthGravid posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

BWLurker posted...

How old do you consider "old"?

65 and up.

After that point you're no longer useful, you are a burden

So how will they feed themselves and pay bills? Are you going to take care of them?

Or are you suggesting something far worse?

They should have planned for retirement.

It's not that simple. But then, I can guess from your attitude that you have never gone hungry or been cold. Daddy's money goes a long way towards teaching these kinds of attitudes. Not everyone has that. And don't say, "they should have worked harder", because that doesn't matter either. CEO's sit on their asses and play golf while people that make 1/50th of the money do the actual labor. I'm not saying that they don't deserve to be paid, but when you make that kind of money, it's easy to forget what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck.

Lmao any schmuck with a GED could get a dumbass job that could provide for a family of four back in the day, all they had to do was throw a little bit of money in a 401k and pay their mortgage and not carry a credit card balance and they could have ended up as millionaires by now.

And another thing, someday, all of you will be old, and the world will have changed, and you won't be able to keep up. These are facts. I hope that you remember the things that you said here about old people being useless, because that's what they are going to say about you.

Instead of being assholes, have you considered teaching them, or helping them? No of course not. So don't complain when it's your turn to be "old and useless".
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clearaflagrantj posted...

DarthGravid posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

DarthGravid posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

BWLurker posted...

How old do you consider "old"?

65 and up.

After that point you're no longer useful, you are a burden

So how will they feed themselves and pay bills? Are you going to take care of them?

Or are you suggesting something far worse?

They should have planned for retirement.

It's not that simple. But then, I can guess from your attitude that you have never gone hungry or been cold. Daddy's money goes a long way towards teaching these kinds of attitudes. Not everyone has that. And don't say, "they should have worked harder", because that doesn't matter either. CEO's sit on their asses and play golf while people that make 1/50th of the money do the actual labor. I'm not saying that they don't deserve to be paid, but when you make that kind of money, it's easy to forget what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck.

Lmao any schmuck with a GED could get a dumbass job that could provide for a family of four back in the day, all they had to do was throw a little bit of money in a 401k and pay their mortgage and not carry a credit card balance and they could have ended up as millionaires by now.

This hinges on nothing going wrong, ever. That's not real life. We don't all have Daddy's money and connections to fall back on.
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People should be removed from politics when they pass 65
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How do you do that? You can't exactly retire when cost of living goes up while pensions and SS are going down.

hockeybub89 posted...

People should be removed from politics when they pass 65

Im inclined to agree with this though, to an extent at least.
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DarthGravid posted...

And another thing, someday, all of you will be old, and the world will have changed, and you won't be able to keep up. These are facts. I hope that you remember the things that you said here about old people being useless, because that's what they are going to say about you.

Instead of being assholes, have you considered teaching them, or helping them? No of course not. So don't complain when it's your turn to be "old and useless".

Wow dude you're so good at beating strawmen

clearaflagrantj posted...

DarthGravid posted...

And another thing, someday, all of you will be old, and the world will have changed, and you won't be able to keep up. These are facts. I hope that you remember the things that you said here about old people being useless, because that's what they are going to say about you.

Instead of being assholes, have you considered teaching them, or helping them? No of course not. So don't complain when it's your turn to be "old and useless".

Wow dude you're so good at beating strawmen

You'll see.
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Zeeak4444 posted...

How do you do that? You can't exactly retire when cost of living goes up while pensions and SS are going down.

SAVE UP MONEY ON YOUR OWN

Bump

Depends on the field. In my industry you really need some older dudes who are simply very experienced. But you also need pretty constant fresh blood to keep up with changing technology and to balance out project budgets since they can be had so much cheaper.
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clearaflagrantj posted...

DarthGravid posted...

And another thing, someday, all of you will be old, and the world will have changed, and you won't be able to keep up. These are facts. I hope that you remember the things that you said here about old people being useless, because that's what they are going to say about you.

Instead of being assholes, have you considered teaching them, or helping them? No of course not. So don't complain when it's your turn to be "old and useless".

Wow dude you're so good at beating strawmen

He's not wrong tho

We're constantly making technological advancements

I'm just saying these boomers arent gonna disappear when they retire

at the very least living in florida is gonna be more and more awful
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Balrog0 posted...

I'm just saying these boomers arent gonna disappear when they retire

At least they won't be polluting the workforce.
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