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MeIon Bread 07/01/18 11:31:16 AM #1:	It has a number of drawbacks, like the cancer-inducing graphics, and the pathetic two controller ports (lol), to say nothing of that bizarre grey design with the spiky edge, but the main problem was the games library. If you didn't like RPGs, a lot, there wasn't actually that much to play. Don't get me wrong, it had some games that seemed pretty good, like the Tomb Raider games, although most of them I only played briefly. There was so little to play, apart from those RPGs. You know, I owned every console of that generation, apart from the PS1. Had a good time with my Saturn, an excellent time with my Dreamcast, and an amazing time with my N64. Another funny thing: the PS1 outsold the N64 by a ratio of about 3:1, but most of the people I went to school with, had the N64. These people had good taste. How did the PS1 become so popular? This topic is going to upset people. --- Sunhawk's main alternate account. I'm just a little bit caught in the middle, life is a maze and love is a riddle. <cite>MeIon Bread posted [p:904296358] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>It has a number of drawbacks, like the cancer-inducing graphics, and the pathetic two controller ports (lol), to say nothing of that bizarre grey design with the spiky edge, but the main problem was the games library. If you didn't like RPGs, a lot, there wasn't actually that much to play. Don't get me wrong, it had some games that seemed pretty good, like the Tomb Raider games, although most of them I only played briefly. There was so little to play, apart from those RPGs. You know, I owned every console of that generation, apart from the PS1. Had a good time with my Saturn, an excellent time with my Dreamcast, and an amazing time with my N64. Another funny thing: the PS1 outsold the N64 by a ratio of about 3:1, but most of the people I went to school with, had the N64. These people had good taste. How did the PS1 become so popular? This topic is going to upset people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 07/01/18 11:32:40 AM #2:	I agree with everything you said. The graphics were appallingly bad even for the era --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:904296417] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>I agree with everything you said. The graphics were appallingly bad even for the era</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sunhawk 07/01/18 11:34:42 AM #3:	Those horrible pixellated textures, the short, short draw distance...and that hilarious distortion when the textures got too close to the camera. Disgraceful. --- It has been 0 days since something interesting happened. A three hour tour, a three hour tour... <cite>Sunhawk posted [p:904296508] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>Those horrible pixellated textures, the short, short draw distance...and that hilarious distortion when the textures got too close to the camera. Disgraceful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gafemage 07/01/18 11:35:35 AM #4:	Sunhawk's main alternate account. --- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk <cite>Gafemage posted [p:904296551] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><quote>Sunhawk's main alternate account.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kisai 07/01/18 11:36:13 AM #5:	Genocet_10-325 posted... I agree with everything you said. The graphics were appallingly bad even for the era In-game graphics weren't too bad. SquareSoft proved that. --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? <cite>Kisai posted [p:904296586] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote>I agree with everything you said. The graphics were appallingly bad even for the era</quote> In-game graphics weren't too bad. SquareSoft proved that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 07/01/18 11:36:53 AM #6:	Sunhawk posted... Those horrible pixellated textures, the short, short draw distance...and that hilarious distortion when the textures got too close to the camera. Disgraceful. Don't forget the load times a ton of games had --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:904296614] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sunhawk posted...</cite> <quote>Those horrible pixellated textures, the short, short draw distance...and that hilarious distortion when the textures got too close to the camera. Disgraceful.</quote> Don't forget the load times a ton of games had</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 07/01/18 11:37:07 AM #7:	Im not upset, I just think youre wrong. The PSX may have honestly had the most innovation and experimentative freedom out of any console ever released. The advent of 3D, the lack of aaa mindset, and in general companies spreading their wings and making weird interesting stuff. It was a kind of time we wont ever have again in games, sadly --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:904296623] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>Im not upset, I just think youre wrong. The PSX may have honestly had the most innovation and experimentative freedom out of any console ever released. The advent of 3D, the lack of aaa mindset, and in general companies spreading their wings and making weird interesting stuff. It was a kind of time we wont ever have again in games, sadly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sunhawk 07/01/18 11:40:21 AM #8:	Genocet_10-325 posted... Sunhawk posted... Those horrible pixellated textures, the short, short draw distance...and that hilarious distortion when the textures got too close to the camera. Disgraceful. Don't forget the load times a ton of games had Yeah. I remember seeing one or two minutes load times. I think for most modern games, the maximum acceptable loading time is about 20 seconds. Of course, if the game is great, I don't mind longer load times than that. --- It has been 0 days since something interesting happened. A three hour tour, a three hour tour... <cite>Sunhawk posted [p:904296760] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sunhawk posted...</cite> <quote>Those horrible pixellated textures, the short, short draw distance...and that hilarious distortion when the textures got too close to the camera. Disgraceful.</quote> Don't forget the load times a ton of games had</quote> Yeah. I remember seeing one or two minutes load times. I think for most modern games, the maximum acceptable loading time is about 20 seconds. Of course, if the game is great, I don't mind longer load times than that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/01/18 11:41:46 AM #9:	MeIon Bread posted... pathetic two controller ports Wasn't that pretty much standard at the time? IIRC the 64 was the first four-port. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://imgur.com/6ezFwG1 <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:904296820] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>MeIon Bread posted...</cite> <quote>pathetic two controller ports </quote> Wasn't that pretty much standard at the time? IIRC the 64 was the first four-port.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 07/01/18 11:43:47 AM #10:	It was a great console for its time. It just happens to have aged worse than just about any other console. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:904296909] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>It was a great console for its time. It just happens to have aged worse than just about any other console.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sunhawk 07/01/18 11:44:42 AM #12:	It was the standard, yes, but Nintendo actually wanted to push things further. I mean, we'd had 2 port consoles for ages. Don't you remember how much fun Goldeneye was with four players, or Perfect Dark? Some of the most gaming fun I ever had. --- It has been 0 days since something interesting happened. A three hour tour, a three hour tour... <cite>Sunhawk posted [p:904296963] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>It was the standard, yes, but Nintendo actually wanted to push things further. I mean, we'd had 2 port consoles for ages. Don't you remember how much fun Goldeneye was with four players, or Perfect Dark? Some of the most gaming fun I ever had. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 07/01/18 11:46:08 AM #13:	Worst thread of 2018 --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:904297032] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>Worst thread of 2018</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 07/01/18 11:47:05 AM #14:	How many of you were even alive and owned a PS1 when it came out? --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:904297066] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>How many of you were even alive and owned a PS1 when it came out?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gafemage 07/01/18 11:51:29 AM #15:	MeIon Bread posted... If you didn't like RPGs, a lot, there wasn't actually that much to play. This is probably the worst part of the whole OP. Platformers (2D and 3D)? Shmups? Action-Adventure? Fighting? Horror? Racing? Stealth? All those genres were super prevalent on the system as well as RPGs. --- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk <cite>Gafemage posted [p:904297253] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>MeIon Bread posted...</cite> <quote>If you didn't like RPGs, a lot, there wasn't actually that much to play.</quote> This is probably the worst part of the whole OP. Platformers (2D and 3D)? Shmups? Action-Adventure? Fighting? Horror? Racing? Stealth? All those genres were super prevalent on the system as well as RPGs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
butthole666 07/01/18 11:55:11 AM #16:	It was an important stepping stone into modern gaming but it was a truly atrocious machine --- "Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100s <cite>butthole666 posted [p:904297414] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>It was an important stepping stone into modern gaming but it was a truly atrocious machine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 07/01/18 11:57:26 AM #17:	It had tons of non-RPGs that were fantastic games for their time. The only problem is that they didn't hold up against advances in their genres (platforming, shooters, sports, survival horror, fighting, racing, arcade/party, and even music). People act like RPGs are the only thing PS1 had, but that's only because they're pretty much the only games still playable by today's standards. Makes it easy to tell who was too young (or not even born yet) when the PS1 was at its peak. <cite>Vertania posted [p:904297516] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>It had tons of non-RPGs that were fantastic games for their time. The only problem is that they didn't hold up against advances in their genres (platforming, shooters, sports, survival horror, fighting, racing, arcade/party, and even music). People act like RPGs are the only thing PS1 had, but that's only because they're pretty much the only games still playable by today's standards. Makes it easy to tell who was too young (or not even born yet) when the PS1 was at its peak.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Azardea 07/01/18 12:02:12 PM #18:	MeIon Bread posted... There was so little to play, apart from those RPGs. Still a hell of a lot more than the N64 had. :/ --- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL68FD0D7F63715384 <cite>Azardea posted [p:904297744] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>MeIon Bread posted...</cite> <quote>There was so little to play, apart from those RPGs. </quote> Still a hell of a lot more than the N64 had. :/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XplodnPnguins92 07/01/18 12:07:24 PM #19:	tc playing the "no games" card on the ps1 makes this an obvious joke topic. --- https://imgur.com/Dn9vLMi <cite>XplodnPnguins92 posted [p:904297991] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>tc playing the "no games" card on the ps1 makes this an obvious joke topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario masta 07/01/18 12:11:35 PM #20:	DifferentialEquation posted... It was a great console for its time. It just happens to have aged worse than just about any other console. This. The N64 has aged so much better than the PS1. --- ...I guess... <cite>mario masta posted [p:904298217] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>It was a great console for its time. It just happens to have aged worse than just about any other console.</quote> This. The N64 has aged so much better than the PS1.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guerrilla Soldier 07/01/18 12:15:39 PM #21:	MeIon Bread posted... Sunhawk --- Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm. Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland! <cite>Guerrilla Soldier posted [p:904298410] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>MeIon Bread posted...</cite> <quote>Sunhawk</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 07/01/18 12:16:52 PM #22:	Azardea posted... Still a hell of a lot more than the N64 had. :/ The difference is that a lot of the N64 games held up. Platformers like Banjo-Kazooie and Super Mario 64 were generally more fondly remembered than Spyro and Crash. Partly because the latter IPs sold out to different developers and made a bunch of shit games in the next generation. It also had more fondly remembered multiplayer games, like Mario Party, Mario Kart, GoldenEye, largely due to native 4 player capabilities. <cite>Vertania posted [p:904298472] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>Azardea posted...</cite> <quote>Still a hell of a lot more than the N64 had. :/</quote> The difference is that a lot of the N64 games held up. Platformers like Banjo-Kazooie and Super Mario 64 were generally more fondly remembered than Spyro and Crash. Partly because the latter IPs sold out to different developers and made a bunch of shit games in the next generation. It also had more fondly remembered multiplayer games, like Mario Party, Mario Kart, GoldenEye, largely due to native 4 player capabilities.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gafemage 07/01/18 12:18:58 PM #23:	mario masta posted... DifferentialEquation posted... It was a great console for its time. It just happens to have aged worse than just about any other console. This. The N64 has aged so much better than the PS1. Given the PS1s large library of 2D games, Im gonna go ahead & say no. --- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk <cite>Gafemage posted [p:904298570] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario masta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>It was a great console for its time. It just happens to have aged worse than just about any other console.</quote> This. The N64 has aged so much better than the PS1.</quote> Given the PS1s large library of 2D games, Im gonna go ahead & say no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Azardea 07/01/18 12:19:16 PM #24:	Gafemage posted... mario masta posted... DifferentialEquation posted... It was a great console for its time. It just happens to have aged worse than just about any other console. This. The N64 has aged so much better than the PS1. Given the PS1s large library of 2D games, Im gonna go ahead & say no. --- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL68FD0D7F63715384 <cite>Azardea posted [p:904298585] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gafemage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario masta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>It was a great console for its time. It just happens to have aged worse than just about any other console.</quote> This. The N64 has aged so much better than the PS1.</quote> Given the PS1s large library of 2D games, Im gonna go ahead & say no.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/01/18 12:23:32 PM #25:	The PlayStation has plenty of 2D games, so even if you think the 3D games aged poorly, it's hard to argue the N64 has aged more gracefully, IMO 4p was cool, though. Hard to argue with that, and the PS2's backwards compatibility means you have no reason to ever play the ps1 machine --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:904298764] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>The PlayStation has plenty of 2D games, so even if you think the 3D games aged poorly, it's hard to argue the N64 has aged more gracefully, IMO 4p was cool, though. Hard to argue with that, and the PS2's backwards compatibility means you have no reason to ever play the ps1 machine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario masta 07/01/18 12:24:47 PM #26:	Gafemage posted... mario masta posted... DifferentialEquation posted... It was a great console for its time. It just happens to have aged worse than just about any other console. This. The N64 has aged so much better than the PS1. Given the PS1s large library of 2D games, Im gonna go ahead & say no. Who talks about those games today though? Compared to N64's best games? --- ...I guess... <cite>mario masta posted [p:904298842] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gafemage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario masta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>It was a great console for its time. It just happens to have aged worse than just about any other console.</quote> This. The N64 has aged so much better than the PS1.</quote> Given the PS1s large library of 2D games, Im gonna go ahead & say no.</quote> Who talks about those games today though? Compared to N64's best games?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/01/18 12:28:23 PM #27:	mario masta posted... Gafemage posted... mario masta posted... DifferentialEquation posted... It was a great console for its time. It just happens to have aged worse than just about any other console. This. The N64 has aged so much better than the PS1. Given the PS1s large library of 2D games, Im gonna go ahead & say no. Who talks about those games today though? Compared to N64's best games? It's harder to get consensus great games when your platform has more than 1st party devs and more than 20 games that anyone actually played Because there are enough games to actually argue over which one is better --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:904299007] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario masta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gafemage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario masta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>It was a great console for its time. It just happens to have aged worse than just about any other console.</quote> This. The N64 has aged so much better than the PS1.</quote> Given the PS1s large library of 2D games, Im gonna go ahead & say no.</quote> Who talks about those games today though? Compared to N64's best games?</quote> It's harder to get consensus great games when your platform has more than 1st party devs and more than 20 games that anyone actually played Because there are enough games to actually argue over which one is better</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 07/01/18 12:29:56 PM #28:	mario masta posted... Gafemage posted... mario masta posted... DifferentialEquation posted... It was a great console for its time. It just happens to have aged worse than just about any other console. This. The N64 has aged so much better than the PS1. Given the PS1s large library of 2D games, Im gonna go ahead & say no. Who talks about those games today though? Compared to N64's best games? Nobody really talks about N64 games anymore except the usual Mario and Zelda. Occasionally you'll get someone not remembering the horrific motion sickness fest that was Goldeneye 4 player splitscreen, but for the most part they're just as forgotten as PSX's stuff. Both consoles are amazing. Calling either one bad is really, really silly --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:904299071] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario masta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gafemage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario masta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>It was a great console for its time. It just happens to have aged worse than just about any other console.</quote> This. The N64 has aged so much better than the PS1.</quote> Given the PS1s large library of 2D games, Im gonna go ahead & say no.</quote> Who talks about those games today though? Compared to N64's best games?</quote> Nobody really talks about N64 games anymore except the usual Mario and Zelda. Occasionally you'll get someone not remembering the horrific motion sickness fest that was Goldeneye 4 player splitscreen, but for the most part they're just as forgotten as PSX's stuff. Both consoles are amazing. Calling either one bad is really, really silly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueBoy675 07/01/18 12:30:11 PM #29:	Mega Man X4 is one of the best looking 2D games out there imo. Mega Man Legends also aged really well as far as graphics are concerned. The overly cartoony style really helped in that regard. --- Hope rides alone <cite>BlueBoy675 posted [p:904299082] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>Mega Man X4 is one of the best looking 2D games out there imo. Mega Man Legends also aged really well as far as graphics are concerned. The overly cartoony style really helped in that regard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MadDewg 07/01/18 12:32:29 PM #30:	MeIon Bread posted... How did the PS1 become so popular? I could be wrong, but I could have swore I remember reading something like this about how the playstation took it....a lot of 3rd party devs were upset with nintendo because of their high prices when it comes to the carts. Devs in that era was at that point where they were all about using cds for their games, because they are vastly cheaper compared to nintendo's cards and the space for them was pretty generous. Nintendo was sort of in their arrogant mode because of their success over sega towards the end of the 16 bit era, and they decided to go with carts yet again for the 64 despite a lot of third party devs, especially squaresoft, was wanting nintendo to go with cds. After that snes-cd deal fell through and nintendo let sony keep the designs for the cd system (lul), sony comes along and sets up shop, and offers extremely cheap prices for third parties to put games on their system. The deal was too good to pass up. (Sega also burned a lot of bridges with their bone-headed move to surprise release the saturn out of nowhere. It also did not help that sega during this time had a dude at sega declining games from japan because he wanted a certain image or whatever for sega.) Long story short, sony had massive third party support over nintendo (they also had pretty decent 1st and 2nd party games that sold well also. Intelligent cube, crash bandicoot, syphon filter, tomba, medieval, that one super hero game that escapes my memory right now, gran turismo, gameday, etc.), and with the playstation being cheaper in general, that won them that generation pretty damn easily. The nintendo 64 was cool for what it was, and was stronger in the graphics department, but if console gaming history had to teach us anything, its that just having a stronger console will not win the generation when it comes to sales. If that was the case, then both the gamecube and the original xbox (especially the original xbox....man games on the xbox looked so, so much better than their ps2 counterparts, lol) would have spanked the PS2, but again, we all saw how that turned out. --- GTag:XlX Zoro XlX PSN:lMadDogg NNID:xMadDoggx I bet my left nut on bloodstained ritual of the night being awesome...I like my left nut IGA, come through for me. <cite>MadDewg posted [p:904299200] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>MeIon Bread posted...</cite> <quote>How did the PS1 become so popular?</quote> I could be wrong, but I could have swore I remember reading something like this about how the playstation took it....a lot of 3rd party devs were upset with nintendo because of their high prices when it comes to the carts. Devs in that era was at that point where they were all about using cds for their games, because they are vastly cheaper compared to nintendo's cards and the space for them was pretty generous. Nintendo was sort of in their arrogant mode because of their success over sega towards the end of the 16 bit era, and they decided to go with carts yet again for the 64 despite a lot of third party devs, especially squaresoft, was wanting nintendo to go with cds. After that snes-cd deal fell through and nintendo let sony keep the designs for the cd system (lul), sony comes along and sets up shop, and offers extremely cheap prices for third parties to put games on their system. The deal was too good to pass up. (Sega also burned a lot of bridges with their bone-headed move to surprise release the saturn out of nowhere. It also did not help that sega during this time had a dude at sega declining games from japan because he wanted a certain image or whatever for sega.) Long story short, sony had massive third party support over nintendo (they also had pretty decent 1st and 2nd party games that sold well also. Intelligent cube, crash bandicoot, syphon filter, tomba, medieval, that one super hero game that escapes my memory right now, gran turismo, gameday, etc.), and with the playstation being cheaper in general, that won them that generation pretty damn easily. The nintendo 64 was cool for what it was, and was stronger in the graphics department, but if console gaming history had to teach us anything, its that just having a stronger console will not win the generation when it comes to sales. If that was the case, then both the gamecube and the original xbox (especially the original xbox....man games on the xbox looked so, so much better than their ps2 counterparts, lol) would have spanked the PS2, but again, we all saw how that turned out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gafemage 07/01/18 12:34:15 PM #31:	mario masta posted... Gafemage posted... mario masta posted... DifferentialEquation posted... It was a great console for its time. It just happens to have aged worse than just about any other console. This. The N64 has aged so much better than the PS1. Given the PS1s large library of 2D games, Im gonna go ahead & say no. Who talks about those games today though? Compared to N64's best games? Um, theres Symphony of the Night, for one. Mega Man X4, Suikoden II, Final Fantasy Tactics are also still very popular & fondly remembered. Plenty more lesser-known 2D games that are still great too. --- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk <cite>Gafemage posted [p:904299282] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario masta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gafemage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario masta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>It was a great console for its time. It just happens to have aged worse than just about any other console.</quote> This. The N64 has aged so much better than the PS1.</quote> Given the PS1s large library of 2D games, Im gonna go ahead & say no.</quote> Who talks about those games today though? Compared to N64's best games?</quote> Um, theres Symphony of the Night, for one. Mega Man X4, Suikoden II, Final Fantasy Tactics are also still very popular & fondly remembered. Plenty more lesser-known 2D games that are still great too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/01/18 12:38:09 PM #32:	Like, if you liked fighters or shmups, then the PS1 is the obviously superior console to n64. I think ppl still talk about shit like dodonpachi but it is a more niche genre especially today Granted the Saturn was arguably superior in those genres, but the 3d offerings were much weaker The ps1 threaded the needle very well --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:904299451] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>Like, if you liked fighters or shmups, then the PS1 is the obviously superior console to n64. I think ppl still talk about shit like dodonpachi but it is a more niche genre especially today Granted the Saturn was arguably superior in those genres, but the 3d offerings were much weaker The ps1 threaded the needle very well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
babyeatermax 07/01/18 12:41:48 PM #33:	Lol at the N64 aging better. People are still playing PS1 games. We're still waiting for dozens of PS1 games to be released on PSN. People buy PSPs just for the PS1 library --- This guy <cite>babyeatermax posted [p:904299636] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>Lol at the N64 aging better. People are still playing PS1 games. We're still waiting for dozens of PS1 games to be released on PSN. People buy PSPs just for the PS1 library</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 07/01/18 12:42:06 PM #34:	MeIon Bread posted... If you didn't like RPGs Lol why the fuck wouldn't someone like RPGs? <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:904299658] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>MeIon Bread posted...</cite> <quote>If you didn't like RPGs</quote> Lol why the fuck wouldn't someone like RPGs?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 07/01/18 12:44:25 PM #35:	These are the PS1 games I still own in it's original packaging and all that. All mint condition. Ace Combat 3: Electrosphere (Japanese Version) Arc the Lad Collection Brave Fencer Musashi Breath of Fire III Breath of Fire IV Brigandine Bushido Blade Castlevania Symphony of the Night Chrono Cross Deception 3: Dark Delusion Dragon Warrior VII Einhnder Fear Effect Fear Effect 2: Retro Helix Final Fantasy Anthology [FFV & FFVI] Final Fantasy Chronicles [FFIV & Chrono Trigger] Final Fantasy IX Final Fantasy Tactics Final Fantasy VII Final Fantasy VIII Front Mission 3 Grandia Guilty Gear Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth Kartia Legend of Dragoon Legend of Legaia Legend of Mana Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete Lunar Silver Star Story Complete Megaman X4 Megaman X5 Megaman X6 Metal Gear Solid Parasite Eve Parasite Eve II Persona Persona 2: Eternal Punishment R4 Ridge Racer Type 4 RayCrisis Rhapsody: A musical Adventure Ridge Racer Turbo Mode Rival Schools R-Type Delta SaGa Frontier SaGa Frontier 2 Saiyuki Journey West Silent Bomber Silhouette Mirage Soul Blade Spiderman Star Ocean the Second Story Street Fighter Alpha 3 Suikoden Suikoden II Tales of Destiny Tales of Destiny 2 [Tales of Eternia] Thousand Arms Threads of fate Thunder Force V Perfect System Vagrant Story Valkyrie Profile Vandal Hearts Vandal Hearts II Vanguard Bandits Wild Arms Wild Arms 2 Xenogears --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:904299789] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>These are the PS1 games I still own in it's original packaging and all that. All mint condition. Ace Combat 3: Electrosphere (Japanese Version) Arc the Lad Collection Brave Fencer Musashi Breath of Fire III Breath of Fire IV Brigandine Bushido Blade Castlevania Symphony of the Night Chrono Cross Deception 3: Dark Delusion Dragon Warrior VII Einhnder Fear Effect Fear Effect 2: Retro Helix Final Fantasy Anthology [FFV & FFVI] Final Fantasy Chronicles [FFIV & Chrono Trigger] Final Fantasy IX Final Fantasy Tactics Final Fantasy VII Final Fantasy VIII Front Mission 3 Grandia Guilty Gear Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth Kartia Legend of Dragoon Legend of Legaia Legend of Mana Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete Lunar Silver Star Story Complete Megaman X4 Megaman X5 Megaman X6 Metal Gear Solid Parasite Eve Parasite Eve II Persona Persona 2: Eternal Punishment R4 Ridge Racer Type 4 RayCrisis Rhapsody: A musical Adventure Ridge Racer Turbo Mode Rival Schools R-Type Delta SaGa Frontier SaGa Frontier 2 Saiyuki Journey West Silent Bomber Silhouette Mirage Soul Blade Spiderman Star Ocean the Second Story Street Fighter Alpha 3 Suikoden Suikoden II Tales of Destiny Tales of Destiny 2 [Tales of Eternia] Thousand Arms Threads of fate Thunder Force V Perfect System Vagrant Story Valkyrie Profile Vandal Hearts Vandal Hearts II Vanguard Bandits Wild Arms Wild Arms 2 Xenogears</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 07/01/18 12:44:44 PM #36:	Darklit_Minuet posted... Lol why the fuck wouldn't someone like RPGs? Those rare wierd folks who are Anti-RPG --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:904299802] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>Lol why the fuck wouldn't someone like RPGs?</quote>Those rare wierd folks who are Anti-RPG</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Infinite 2003 07/01/18 12:46:50 PM #37:	This topic is bad and you should feel bad --- Before I knew it there was poop on my lips. - squarion <cite>Infinite 2003 posted [p:904299915] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>This topic is bad and you should feel bad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sobergermanguy 07/01/18 12:56:41 PM #38:	It's impossible for the N64 to age better than the PS1. The first party games are the only thing still worth playing from that era. And the N64 had that controller that gaves kids blisters. They had to give out protective gloves with copies of Mario Party --- You choc-blocked me, bro <cite>sobergermanguy posted [p:904300408] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>It's impossible for the N64 to age better than the PS1. The first party games are the only thing still worth playing from that era. And the N64 had that controller that gaves kids blisters. They had to give out protective gloves with copies of Mario Party</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OldSnakeLiveon8 07/01/18 2:40:55 PM #39:	The hell is the TC talking about? 2D games on PS1 are known for aging extremely well. I was just playing FF Tactics the other day. The N64 just doesn't have games like that. The Gameboy Color was a better rival for the PS1 than the NS4 <cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted [p:904305647] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>The hell is the TC talking about? 2D games on PS1 are known for aging extremely well. I was just playing FF Tactics the other day. The N64 just doesn't have games like that. The Gameboy Color was a better rival for the PS1 than the NS4</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
butthole666 07/01/18 3:33:54 PM #40:	Darklit_Minuet posted... MeIon Bread posted... If you didn't like RPGs Lol why the fuck wouldn't someone like RPGs? JRPGs are literally anti fun --- "Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100s <cite>butthole666 posted [p:904308374] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MeIon Bread posted...</cite> <quote>If you didn't like RPGs</quote> Lol why the fuck wouldn't someone like RPGs?</quote> JRPGs are literally anti fun</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fuparulez 07/01/18 3:44:35 PM #41:	3D games have aged badly from that era on all platforms because the technology just wasn't there yet. Terrible draw distances and pop up were the norm whether it was a Playstation, a Nintendo 64 or a 233 mhz Pentium 2 desktop with 2mb of video memory. DrizztLink posted... MeIon Bread posted... pathetic two controller ports Wasn't that pretty much standard at the time? IIRC the 64 was the first four-port. Atari 5200 had four controller ports. --- It's the fat upper kitty area, and if you got one I wanna marry ya! <cite>Fuparulez posted [p:904308932] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>3D games have aged badly from that era on all platforms because the technology just wasn't there yet. Terrible draw distances and pop up were the norm whether it was a Playstation, a Nintendo 64 or a 233 mhz Pentium 2 desktop with 2mb of video memory. <cite>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MeIon Bread posted...</cite> <quote>pathetic two controller ports </quote> Wasn't that pretty much standard at the time? IIRC the 64 was the first four-port.</quote> Atari 5200 had four controller ports.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 07/01/18 4:04:29 PM #42:	MeIon Bread posted... cancer-inducing graphics Yeah it really had the worst graphics since the 2600, unless you were playing a 2D game, many of which looked great. the pathetic two controller ports (lol) It wasn't really a system for players who did lots of multiplayer but they did have a multitap addon thst would allow you to have more than two players. If you didn't like RPGs, a lot, there wasn't actually that much to play. Not true at all. It had three good Spyro games, five good Crash games (including a kart racer and a Mario Pary clone), two Driver games, MGS1, 7 Mega Man games, Ape Escape, two Medal of Honor games and Tomy Hawk 1 and 2. And 3 and 4 if you didn't have a PS2. Then there are lots of other classics that I never got into like RE, Twisted Metal, Syphon Filter, Silent Hill, etc. I honestly don't even associate the system with RPG's primarily. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif https://imgur.com/kU5vu5N Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:904309916] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>MeIon Bread posted...</cite> <quote>cancer-inducing graphics</quote> Yeah it really had the worst graphics since the 2600, unless you were playing a 2D game, many of which looked great. <quote>the pathetic two controller ports (lol)</quote> It wasn't really a system for players who did lots of multiplayer but they did have a multitap addon thst would allow you to have more than two players. <quote>If you didn't like RPGs, a lot, there wasn't actually that much to play.</quote> Not true at all. It had three good Spyro games, five good Crash games (including a kart racer and a Mario Pary clone), two Driver games, MGS1, 7 Mega Man games, Ape Escape, two Medal of Honor games and Tomy Hawk 1 and 2. And 3 and 4 if you didn't have a PS2. Then there are lots of other classics that I never got into like RE, Twisted Metal, Syphon Filter, Silent Hill, etc. I honestly don't even associate the system with RPG's primarily.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
luigi13579 07/01/18 4:33:18 PM #43:	Oh, it's Sunhawk. I hear that JRPG claim a lot (usually from those that have little experience of the PS1), but I think it's a pretty big misconception. The PS1 featured many genres (some extensively so); JRPGs, yes, but also platformers (Spyro, Crash, Oddworld, Tomba!), racers (Gran Turismo, Ridge Racer, Wipeout), fighters (Tekken, Street Fighter / Marvel vs. X, Soul Blade), survival horror games (Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Fear Effect), stealth (Metal Gear Solid, Tenchu), strategy (Command & Conquer), 2D (SotN, Mega Man X), sports (Tony Hawks), even FPS (Medal of Honor), etc. That's just some of the obvious stuff. You can argue all day about the quality (few will argue about the graphics, but that's certainly not unique to the PS1 in that gen, plus some games managed to buck that trend), but I would argue that the games mentioned above are at least good, some great (MGS, SotN and Tekken 3 at the very least). <cite>luigi13579 posted [p:904311472] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>Oh, it's Sunhawk. I hear that JRPG claim a lot (usually from those that have little experience of the PS1), but I think it's a pretty big misconception. The PS1 featured many genres (some extensively so); JRPGs, yes, but also platformers (Spyro, Crash, Oddworld, Tomba!), racers (Gran Turismo, Ridge Racer, Wipeout), fighters (Tekken, Street Fighter / Marvel vs. X, Soul Blade), survival horror games (Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Fear Effect), stealth (Metal Gear Solid, Tenchu), strategy (Command & Conquer), 2D (SotN, Mega Man X), sports (Tony Hawks), even FPS (Medal of Honor), etc. That's just some of the obvious stuff. You can argue all day about the quality (few will argue about the graphics, but that's certainly not unique to the PS1 in that gen, plus some games managed to buck that trend), but I would argue that the games mentioned above are at least good, some great (MGS, SotN and Tekken 3 at the very least).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 07/02/18 3:30:01 PM #44:	The PS1 version of Shadow Man is horrid. I mean it's graphics and looks were no worse than something like Silent Hill. You just had other versions on systems to compare it against. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:904367913] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>The PS1 version of Shadow Man is horrid. I mean it's graphics and looks were no worse than something like Silent Hill. You just had other versions on systems to compare it against.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 07/02/18 3:38:30 PM #45:	Sega screwed up and Sony cashed in on their mistake. All while Nintendo was still happy with the SNES. By the time the N64 came out Sony already had an edge. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:904368385] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote>Sega screwed up and Sony cashed in on their mistake. All while Nintendo was still happy with the SNES. By the time the N64 came out Sony already had an edge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 07/02/18 3:58:45 PM #46:	MeIon Bread posted... It has a number of drawbacks, like the cancer-inducing graphics, and the pathetic two controller ports (lol), to say nothing of that bizarre grey design with the spiky edge, but the main problem was the games library. If you didn't like RPGs, a lot, there wasn't actually that much to play. Don't get me wrong, it had some games that seemed pretty good, like the Tomb Raider games, although most of them I only played briefly. There was so little to play, apart from those RPGs. You know, I owned every console of that generation, apart from the PS1. Had a good time with my Saturn, an excellent time with my Dreamcast, and an amazing time with my N64. Another funny thing: the PS1 outsold the N64 by a ratio of about 3:1, but most of the people I went to school with, had the N64. These people had good taste. How did the PS1 become so popular? This topic is going to upset people. Well yeah, you're trying too hard to be edgy. The PS1 is better than the N64 was in every way that we judge games now. Bigger library, better controller, more innovative, better third party support, etc. --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:904369501] in IMHO, The ... [t:76767370]...</cite> <quote><cite>MeIon Bread posted...</cite> <quote>It has a number of drawbacks, like the cancer-inducing graphics, and the pathetic two controller ports (lol), to say nothing of that bizarre grey design with the spiky edge, but the main problem was the games library. If you didn't like RPGs, a lot, there wasn't actually that much to play. Don't get me wrong, it had some games that seemed pretty good, like the Tomb Raider games, although most of them I only played briefly. There was so little to play, apart from those RPGs. You know, I owned every console of that generation, apart from the PS1. Had a good time with my Saturn, an excellent time with my Dreamcast, and an amazing time with my N64. Another funny thing: the PS1 outsold the N64 by a ratio of about 3:1, but most of the people I went to school with, had the N64. These people had good taste. How did the PS1 become so popular? This topic is going to upset people. </quote> Well yeah, you're trying too hard to be edgy. The PS1 is better than the N64 was in every way that we judge games now. Bigger library, better controller, more innovative, better third party support, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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