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creativerealms
06/26/18 11:56:04 AM
#102:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
creativerealms posted...
What does that have to do with the right shutting down when Obama became president and refusing to work with him in any way? You are making excuses.

I don't recall many people getting called a racist because they agreed with Obama's tax policy.

No they were called communists, they were called traitors to America.
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Sephiroth1288
06/26/18 11:56:29 AM
#103:


Darkman124 posted...
one should also wonder whether crowder qualifies as an 'innocent person' or whether he was 'asking for it'

Doesn't matter what you think of him, he's an innocent person who doesn't deserve to get firebombed
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Darkman124
06/26/18 11:58:00 AM
#104:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Doesn't matter what you think of him, he's an innocent person who doesn't deserve to get firebombed


prove it

you can start by defining the type of person who isn't innocent and does deserve to get firebombed

i'm just asking questions
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AcFan87
06/26/18 11:58:24 AM
#105:


voldothegr8 posted...
creativerealms posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
They've been incapable of being civil since about 2-3 years into Obama's first term.

That was the Republicans. They were the ones who shut down completely when Obama became president. Or is Trump a Democrat now?

Disagreeing with Omaba's policies = you're a racist
Supporting Trump = you're a racist

Everything in existence= racist to the liberal mind. Except themselves, of course. In their minds they are upright paragons of morality and virtue that are above reproach.
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Sephiroth1288
06/26/18 12:00:09 PM
#106:


Darkman124 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Doesn't matter what you think of him, he's an innocent person who doesn't deserve to get firebombed


prove it

you can start by defining the type of person who isn't innocent and does deserve to get firebombed

People who are an immediate threat to innocent people, and your best means of stopping them happens to be a firebomb. Those are the people who deserve to be firebombed.
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Taharqa_
06/26/18 12:00:15 PM
#107:


Republicans/Conservatives chastising Democrats over civility is laughable. Pot calling the kettle black.
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creativerealms
06/26/18 12:03:53 PM
#108:


HiAcFan87 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
creativerealms posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
They've been incapable of being civil since about 2-3 years into Obama's first term.

That was the Republicans. They were the ones who shut down completely when Obama became president. Or is Trump a Democrat now?

Disagreeing with Omaba's policies = you're a racist
Supporting Trump = you're a racist

Everything in existence= racist to the liberal mind. Except themselves, of course. In their minds they are upright paragons of morality and virtue that are above reproach.

Everything in existence = anti Christian to the conservative mind. Except themselves of course. In their minds they are upright paragobs of morality and virtue that are above reproach.

I actually don't believe that about most liberals but that fits the far right.

Funny thing is liberals seem more willing to criticize each other. You realize many many liberals think Obama was too compromising to the right and actually didn't do enough? Many think he wasn't even that good of a president. No you wouldn't know that you only look at the surface. I actually represent more of the average liberal and not those whiny SJW losers.
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Darkman124
06/26/18 12:03:57 PM
#109:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
People who are an immediate threat to innocent people, and your best means of stopping them happens to be a firebomb. Those are the people who deserve to be firebombed.


this seems like a very broad definition. what are 'innocent people'?
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Heineken14
06/26/18 12:05:16 PM
#110:


Literally Donnie is president, but it's the democrats who can't have civil discussion. lol
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Sephiroth1288
06/26/18 12:05:35 PM
#111:


Darkman124 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
People who are an immediate threat to innocent people, and your best means of stopping them happens to be a firebomb. Those are the people who deserve to be firebombed.


this seems like a very broad definition. what are 'innocent people'?

People who aren't committing a violent crime and/or aren't threatening anybody
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creativerealms
06/26/18 12:07:17 PM
#112:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Doesn't matter what you think of him, he's an innocent person who doesn't deserve to get firebombed


prove it

you can start by defining the type of person who isn't innocent and does deserve to get firebombed

People who are an immediate threat to innocent people, and your best means of stopping them happens to be a firebomb. Those are the people who deserve to be firebombed.

No one deserves to be firebombed. I don't agree with liberals who have jumped on the anarchy train. Are there conservatives you don't agree with?
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AcFan87
06/26/18 12:08:08 PM
#113:


Taharqa_ posted...
Republicans/Conservatives chastising Democrats over civility is laughable. Pot calling the kettle black.

Says the side who assaulted elderly Trump supporters, burned businesses to the ground, blocked emergency vehicles because of whiny "protesting", and set people who voted for Trump on fire. Such paragons of morality and civility right there, really, you guys set such a good example.
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Sephiroth1288
06/26/18 12:08:22 PM
#114:


creativerealms posted...
No one deserves to be firebombed. I don't agree with liberals who have jumped on the anarchy train. Are there conservatives you don't agree with?

Plenty.
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Darkman124
06/26/18 12:09:04 PM
#115:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
People who aren't committing a violent crime and/or aren't threatening anybody


unfortunately, this would imply that illegal immigrant children are innocent, and therfore anyone responsible for their harm should be firebombed. dangerous sedition! i'll be reporting this to the office of un-american activities.

also, womp womp.
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TomNook20
06/26/18 12:09:28 PM
#116:


Chowder got destroyed by an 18 year old kid and threw a temper tantrum and is terrible at trolling. He makes Milo look like the funniest man on earth by comparison.

That said, if the girl really posted that shit she's a moron and deserved to be called out for it.
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Heineken14
06/26/18 12:09:45 PM
#117:


AcFan87 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
Republicans/Conservatives chastising Democrats over civility is laughable. Pot calling the kettle black.

Says the side who assaulted elderly Trump supporters, burned businesses to the ground, blocked emergency vehicles because of whiny "protesting", and set people who voted for Trump on fire. Such paragons of morality and civility right there, really, you guys set such a good example.


Your side literally cosplays as Nazis and murdered a person.
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Taharqa_
06/26/18 12:09:56 PM
#118:


AcFan87 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
Republicans/Conservatives chastising Democrats over civility is laughable. Pot calling the kettle black.

Says the side who assaulted elderly Trump supporters, burned businesses to the ground, blocked emergency vehicles because of whiny "protesting", and set people who voted for Trump on fire. Such paragons of morality and civility right there, really, you guys set such a good example.


Are you another one that believes your shit doesn't stink?
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Sephiroth1288
06/26/18 12:10:18 PM
#119:


Darkman124 posted...
unfortunately, this would imply that illegal immigrant children are innocent, and therfore anyone responsible for their harm should be firebombed.

Who's posing an immediate threat of violence to illegal immigrant children?
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The Great Muta 22
06/26/18 12:12:35 PM
#120:


Mal, be honest, you were the kid in school who did the "I'm not touching you!" stuff while getting in someone's face and then got mad and cried to the teacher if someone reacted back
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Darkman124
06/26/18 12:12:38 PM
#121:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darkman124 posted...
unfortunately, this would imply that illegal immigrant children are innocent, and therfore anyone responsible for their harm should be firebombed.

Who's posing an immediate threat of violence to illegal immigrant children?


The united states government.

Less immediately, those who defend its decision-making on the subject.
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TomNook20
06/26/18 12:13:47 PM
#122:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Mal, be honest, you were the kid in school who did the "I'm not touching you!" stuff while getting in someone's face and then got mad and cried to the teacher if someone reacted back


The worst thing is that there are teachers that fall for that shit.
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Sephiroth1288
06/26/18 12:13:53 PM
#123:


Darkman124 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darkman124 posted...
unfortunately, this would imply that illegal immigrant children are innocent, and therfore anyone responsible for their harm should be firebombed.

Who's posing an immediate threat of violence to illegal immigrant children?


The united states government.

Do tell, post us some articles where kids in the illegal immigrant facilities have been hurt or killed.
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thecoolgu
06/26/18 12:17:11 PM
#124:


Those people aren't actually what most liberal people are like.

Although more and more of them are starting to become like the apes in TC's video. They better get their shit together soon.
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Hop103
06/26/18 12:17:58 PM
#125:


It's the far left and far right who are incapable of civil discussion, the normies and centrists are actually decent, indentitarianism destroys the mind, body, and soul. The US can do without it.
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Sephiroth1288
06/26/18 12:19:02 PM
#126:


thecoolgu posted...
Those people aren't actually what most liberal people are like.

I don't doubt it, but this kind of behavior is what you'd expect of Antifa. If Democrats at an official convention are acting like animals, then I'm afraid it will become more prevalent.
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Darkman124
06/26/18 12:19:25 PM
#127:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Do tell, post us some articles where kids in the illegal immigrant facilities have been hurt or killed.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/21/us/undocumented-migrant-children-detention-facilities-abuse-invs/index.html

His account is one of dozens describing overloaded and secretive shelters, treatment centers and secure detention facilities for undocumented minors, which at their worst have allegedly been home to neglect, assault and other horrific abuse.

The allegations in these documents, as well as recent facility inspection reports and other lawsuits, range from unsanitary conditions and invasive monitoring of mail and phone calls to unair-conditioned rooms in hot Texas summers and dosing children with cocktails of psychotropic drugs disguised as vitamins. At one facility, children recounted being held down for forcible injections, which medical records show are powerful antipsychotics and sedatives.


The force used by staff has left bruises on my wrists, on my ribs, and on my shoulder


one who said he was left naked, strapped to the chair for more than two days.


Follow-up question: Do those who rhetorically defend those who pose immediate threat to innocent people lose their status as innocent? Are they "asking for it" ?
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BWLurker2
06/26/18 12:20:14 PM
#128:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
thecoolgu posted...
Those people aren't actually what most liberal people are like.

I don't doubt it, but this kind of behavior is what you'd expect of Antifa. If Democrats at an official convention are acting like animals, then I'm afraid it will become more prevalent.

They're just taking Trump's example. He showed the country you can act like so much of a fucking moron that your secretary of state calls you it and STILL somehow retain control of your cult.
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Tmaster148
06/26/18 12:21:51 PM
#129:


BWLurker2 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
thecoolgu posted...
Those people aren't actually what most liberal people are like.

I don't doubt it, but this kind of behavior is what you'd expect of Antifa. If Democrats at an official convention are acting like animals, then I'm afraid it will become more prevalent.

They're just taking Trump's example. He showed the country you can act like so much of a fucking moron that your secretary of state calls you it and STILL somehow retain control of your cult.


It's really weird the republicans obsession that the democrats act to high standards and not themselves.
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FrisbeeDude
06/26/18 12:26:13 PM
#130:


BWLurker2 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
thecoolgu posted...
Those people aren't actually what most liberal people are like.

I don't doubt it, but this kind of behavior is what you'd expect of Antifa. If Democrats at an official convention are acting like animals, then I'm afraid it will become more prevalent.

They're just taking Trump's example. He showed the country you can act like so much of a fucking moron that your secretary of state calls you it and STILL somehow retain control of your cult.

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Sephiroth1288
06/26/18 12:27:05 PM
#131:


Darkman124 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Do tell, post us some articles where kids in the illegal immigrant facilities have been hurt or killed.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/21/us/undocumented-migrant-children-detention-facilities-abuse-invs/index.html

His account is one of dozens describing overloaded and secretive shelters, treatment centers and secure detention facilities for undocumented minors, which at their worst have allegedly been home to neglect, assault and other horrific abuse.

The allegations in these documents, as well as recent facility inspection reports and other lawsuits, range from unsanitary conditions and invasive monitoring of mail and phone calls to unair-conditioned rooms in hot Texas summers and dosing children with cocktails of psychotropic drugs disguised as vitamins. At one facility, children recounted being held down for forcible injections, which medical records show are powerful antipsychotics and sedatives.


The force used by staff has left bruises on my wrists, on my ribs, and on my shoulder


one who said he was left naked, strapped to the chair for more than two days.


Follow-up question: Do those who rhetorically defend those who pose immediate threat to innocent people lose their status as innocent? Are they "asking for it" ?

Anyone who is an immediate threat to anybody's life deserves retaliation. But from what you showed here, these accusations are the exception, not the rule.

So looks like my definition is consistent.
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Tmaster148
06/26/18 12:28:37 PM
#132:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Do tell, post us some articles where kids in the illegal immigrant facilities have been hurt or killed.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/21/us/undocumented-migrant-children-detention-facilities-abuse-invs/index.html

His account is one of dozens describing overloaded and secretive shelters, treatment centers and secure detention facilities for undocumented minors, which at their worst have allegedly been home to neglect, assault and other horrific abuse.

The allegations in these documents, as well as recent facility inspection reports and other lawsuits, range from unsanitary conditions and invasive monitoring of mail and phone calls to unair-conditioned rooms in hot Texas summers and dosing children with cocktails of psychotropic drugs disguised as vitamins. At one facility, children recounted being held down for forcible injections, which medical records show are powerful antipsychotics and sedatives.


The force used by staff has left bruises on my wrists, on my ribs, and on my shoulder


one who said he was left naked, strapped to the chair for more than two days.


Follow-up question: Do those who rhetorically defend those who pose immediate threat to innocent people lose their status as innocent? Are they "asking for it" ?

Anyone who is an immediate threat to anybody's life deserves retaliation. But from what you showed here, these accusations are the exception, not the rule.

So looks like my definition is consistent.


So Mal is literally making an exception for the US Government to be able harm innocent people.
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southcoast09
06/26/18 12:32:17 PM
#133:


That really is disgusting. I dont know if I can ever vote for that party again after seeing their behavior. This is worse than animals behave.

Wahh, we lost, so lets FIREBOMB somebodys car!!1

Why is the woman who said it no in police custody? She should be being investigated for terrorism.
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Sephiroth1288
06/26/18 1:11:24 PM
#134:


Tmaster148 posted...
So Mal is literally making an exception for the US Government to be able harm innocent people.

I think you should try reading my post again.

I made no exceptions. If an ice officer is threatening violence on innocent people, illegal or not, then violence is acceptable to prevent it.

But putting people in jail for breaking the law is not a harmful act
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0AbsoluteZero0
06/26/18 1:13:18 PM
#135:


Lmao at fucking Mal Fet of all people calling others out for a lack of civility. The hypocrisy is strong in this one
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BWLurker2
06/26/18 1:14:38 PM
#136:


0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Lmao at fucking Mal Fet of all people calling others out for a lack of civility. The hypocrisy is strong in this one

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Sephiroth1288
06/26/18 1:17:44 PM
#137:


0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Lmao at fucking Mal Fet of all people calling others out for a lack of civility. The hypocrisy is strong in this one

I'd never call on people to commit violence on others. Clearly a line has been crossed, though it wasn't by me.
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AcFan87
06/26/18 1:18:19 PM
#138:


So the lefties are stupidly doubling down on the "you're someone else's alt" response to a topic/poster they don't agree with. Typical and predictable.
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Darkman124
06/26/18 1:23:16 PM
#140:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
But from what you showed here, these accusations are the exception, not the rule.


What is your basis for this claim?
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AlephZero
06/26/18 1:23:21 PM
#141:


UH1Qity
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Intro2Logic
06/26/18 1:24:12 PM
#142:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
I'd never call on people to commit violence on others.

Every call for harsher, stricter measures at the border is a call for violence on others
Every defense of the second amendment on the grounds that it's necessary to fight off the government is a call for violence on others
Every chant to "lock her up" was a call for armed agents of the state to imprison a woman who hadn't been put on trial, much less convicted.
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AcFan87
06/26/18 1:24:26 PM
#143:


Conflict posted...
AcFan87 posted...
So the lefties are stupidly doubling down on the "you're someone else's alt" response to a topic/poster they don't agree with. Typical and predictable.


Lol dude you're mad as shit right now. Go drink some milk

If I were mad as shit, I would emphasize it in all caps. I am laughing at the stupidity of how thinking that the response of "you're someone's alt" is a masterful rebuttal.
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06/26/18 1:26:05 PM
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Giant_Aspirin
06/26/18 1:29:10 PM
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the apex of critical thinking is finding one video on the internet and extrapolating that behavior to everyone in that group.

i give this topic an A++ from a Mal_Fet shitposting perspective. kudos.
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KamenRiderBlade
06/26/18 1:36:05 PM
#147:


AlephZero posted...
UH1Qity
Why isn't he arrested for vandalism?
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Sephiroth1288
06/26/18 1:36:27 PM
#148:


Darkman124 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
But from what you showed here, these accusations are the exception, not the rule.


What is your basis for this claim?

That there's thousands of illegals locked up right now and "dozens" of (yet unproven) accusations of abuse.

Even if all of the, say, 24 accusations are true it wouldn't make up even a percent of the sample size. I would say that makes it an exception.
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Darkman124
06/26/18 1:39:41 PM
#149:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
That there's thousands of illegals locked up right now and "dozens" of (yet unproven) accusations of abuse.

Even if all of the, say, 24 accusations are true it wouldn't make up even a percent of the sample size. I would say that makes it an exception.


what percent of all democrats are in the video you posted?
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Sephiroth1288
06/26/18 1:43:28 PM
#150:


Darkman124 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
That there's thousands of illegals locked up right now and "dozens" of (yet unproven) accusations of abuse.

Even if all of the, say, 24 accusations are true it wouldn't make up even a percent of the sample size. I would say that makes it an exception.


what percent of all democrats are in the video you posted?

My question was rhetorical, and the video is just an example.
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AcFan87
06/26/18 1:44:40 PM
#151:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
the apex of critical thinking is finding one video on the internet and extrapolating that behavior to everyone in that group.

I could say the same about MSNBC calling all conservatives nazis. Pot meet kettle.
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