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CanuckCowboy
06/18/18 8:21:46 PM
#51:


tote_all posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
I was never molested. Must be a miracle.

I hope you never have kids because you seem to be the type of person that would raise them to be afraid of their shadow and to stay indoors and not socialize despite living in the safest time period in history.


I'd raise them not to do stupid shit, and to call me and no be afraid if they did. Not to rely on their "cool cousin" and strangers to bring them home while inebriated.


You don't remember being young?

That's what I get from that post. That you have utterly forgotten the entirety of your formative years.
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gmanthebest
06/18/18 8:33:06 PM
#52:


Why is a 12 year old waiting for a cab at 4am? I'd be ashamed to be her parents.
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LightHawKnight
06/19/18 1:34:41 PM
#54:


Blitz4532 posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
I've seen 13-14 year olds that look 16

and I've seen 16 year olds that look 19

but I ain't never seen a 12 year old that looks 20

He thought she looked 16, which is the age of consent in the UK. It was the TAXI DRIVER who assumed she was 20.


Someone still assumed a 12 year old was 20. Which makes no sense. No amount of puberty and makeup will make that much of a difference.
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pinky0926
06/19/18 1:36:54 PM
#55:


Really amused at the comments ITT
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Oatcakes
06/19/18 1:38:57 PM
#56:


Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
tote_all posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
I was never molested. Must be a miracle.

I hope you never have kids because you seem to be the type of person that would raise them to be afraid of their shadow and to stay indoors and not socialize despite living in the safest time period in history.


I'd raise them not to do stupid shit, and to call me and no be afraid if they did. Not to rely on their "cool cousin" and strangers to bring them home while inebriated.


OMG. SOMEONE TAKING TRANSPORTATION WITHOUT A PARENT! THEY'RE GOING TO GET RAPED!

Kids aren't always going to feel comfortable calling a parent. Uber is safe and is certainly safer than drinking and driving.


The more you interact with Americans online, the more you realise how much fear they live in.
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_Krave_
06/19/18 1:41:41 PM
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LepartialJury
06/19/18 8:45:02 PM
#58:


Wasn't there a case like this very recently, just with the opposite result?
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LepartialJury
06/22/18 12:18:54 AM
#59:


Wasn't there a case like this very recently, just with the opposite result?
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thronedfire2
06/22/18 12:20:43 AM
#60:


LepartialJury posted...
Wasn't there a case like this very recently, just with the opposite result?


Seems awfully familiar, just like this post
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Bad_Mojo
06/22/18 12:21:18 AM
#61:


I honestly want to know, what's the best way to ask a girl her age? It's one of the main reasons why I'm so shy going up to women, I think I'm going to ask out someone that might be underage.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
06/22/18 12:32:10 AM
#62:


KStateKing17 posted...
Zikten posted...
how do you think a 12 year old is 20?

LightHawKnight posted...
How does a 12 year old look 20?

Where I work years ago, I saw a girl talking to one of our women employees (apparently the employee knew this girl's mother). She was about 5' 6", beautiful face, and if she wasn't a full C cup, definitely a large B. As I'm walking past (and checking her out unobtrusively), she says something like "Well, it was nice seeing you again, I gotta go find my mom." The employee says something like "It was nice seeing you too, honey. Oh, and how old are you now?"

The girl says "I'm twelve." And didn't look a day younger than 18.

So these may be outliers, but it is possible.
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FluttershyPony
06/22/18 2:00:01 PM
#64:


Well I thought she was legitimately over 18, so that's fair.
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darkjedilink
06/22/18 2:00:59 PM
#65:


Oatcakes posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
tote_all posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
I was never molested. Must be a miracle.

I hope you never have kids because you seem to be the type of person that would raise them to be afraid of their shadow and to stay indoors and not socialize despite living in the safest time period in history.


I'd raise them not to do stupid shit, and to call me and no be afraid if they did. Not to rely on their "cool cousin" and strangers to bring them home while inebriated.


OMG. SOMEONE TAKING TRANSPORTATION WITHOUT A PARENT! THEY'RE GOING TO GET RAPED!

Kids aren't always going to feel comfortable calling a parent. Uber is safe and is certainly safer than drinking and driving.


The more you interact with Americans online, the more you realise how much fear they live in.

It's sad, really. Then again, Brits are afraid of people owning knives.
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EpicMickeyDrew
06/23/18 5:36:17 AM
#66:


darkjedilink posted...
Oatcakes posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
tote_all posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
I was never molested. Must be a miracle.

I hope you never have kids because you seem to be the type of person that would raise them to be afraid of their shadow and to stay indoors and not socialize despite living in the safest time period in history.


I'd raise them not to do stupid shit, and to call me and no be afraid if they did. Not to rely on their "cool cousin" and strangers to bring them home while inebriated.


OMG. SOMEONE TAKING TRANSPORTATION WITHOUT A PARENT! THEY'RE GOING TO GET RAPED!

Kids aren't always going to feel comfortable calling a parent. Uber is safe and is certainly safer than drinking and driving.


The more you interact with Americans online, the more you realise how much fear they live in.

It's sad, really. Then again, Brits are afraid of people owning knives.

Yeah man, hence why 100% of households have knifes, feel free to keep reaching though.
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spikethedevil
06/23/18 7:45:53 AM
#67:


darkjedilink posted...
Oatcakes posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
tote_all posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
I was never molested. Must be a miracle.

I hope you never have kids because you seem to be the type of person that would raise them to be afraid of their shadow and to stay indoors and not socialize despite living in the safest time period in history.


I'd raise them not to do stupid shit, and to call me and no be afraid if they did. Not to rely on their "cool cousin" and strangers to bring them home while inebriated.


OMG. SOMEONE TAKING TRANSPORTATION WITHOUT A PARENT! THEY'RE GOING TO GET RAPED!

Kids aren't always going to feel comfortable calling a parent. Uber is safe and is certainly safer than drinking and driving.


The more you interact with Americans online, the more you realise how much fear they live in.

It's sad, really. Then again, Brits are afraid of people owning knives.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1BS7XnEZqc" data-time="

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AcFan87
06/23/18 8:00:50 AM
#68:


southcoast09 posted...
The UK is too busy making sure people dont have pocket knives.

Yeah because zero guns and zero knives will stop all murders and assaults ever. It's not as if people could kill someone with cars, bombs, bare hands, or basically anything else. That would be preposterous.
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marc55
06/23/18 8:13:50 AM
#69:


Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
lol at the UK. They arrest people for butter knives and not raping a 12 year old. If you thought a 12 year old was an adult you should probably get off on being incompetent to stand trial and sent to a psych facility.


i have no idea why do you think someone can go in front of a judge accused of a crime without being arrested or why did you think it was that type of rape after reading
Cieslak and the 12-year-old had sex and she left in the morning on good terms.

However, she later told her sister she was worried she was pregnant and her sister reported it to the police.


anyone could realized the article was about someone who had sex with a 12 year old without knowing her real age and unable to legally consent
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weekoldhotdog
06/23/18 8:24:04 AM
#70:


I don't care if she's 12 and looks 40. She's not old enough to consent. That makes this a crime no matter HOW you look at it. So many disgusting people in this topic, fucking makes me sick.

I don't CARE if she lied. His FAULT. For putting her in a situtation in the first place. Fucking lock him up in American prisons, I say.
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MARKINGRAM22
06/23/18 8:33:35 AM
#71:


Zikten posted...
how do you think a 12 year old is 20?


It can happen, but the fact that she had a friend the same age...for both of them to look of age...hmmm
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
06/23/18 8:40:56 AM
#72:


weekoldhotdog posted...
I don't care if she's 12 and looks 40. She's not old enough to consent. That makes this a crime no matter HOW you look at it. So many disgusting people in this topic, fucking makes me sick.

I don't CARE if she lied. His FAULT. For putting her in a situtation in the first place. Fucking lock him up in American prisons, I say.

And how did was he supposed to know her age? Anyone can lie about their age (within reason), but she admitted that she lied to him. And no, she wasn't old enough to legally consent to sex, but he didn't know that. And according to the article, she left "on good terms", which means she didn't feel pressured. Her only worry was about possibly getting pregnant.

As much as you may want to think otherwise, there are very few guys out there who would be getting hot and heavy with a girl, and when she says "Wait, I'm 12", then keep going.
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weekoldhotdog
06/23/18 9:35:49 AM
#73:


DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
weekoldhotdog posted...
I don't care if she's 12 and looks 40. She's not old enough to consent. That makes this a crime no matter HOW you look at it. So many disgusting people in this topic, fucking makes me sick.

I don't CARE if she lied. His FAULT. For putting her in a situtation in the first place. Fucking lock him up in American prisons, I say.

And was he supposed to magically know her age? Anyone can lie about their age (within reason), but she admitted that she lied to him. And no, she wasn't old enough to legally consent to sex, but he didn't know that. And according to the article, she left "on good terms", which means she didn't feel pressured. Her only worry was about possibly getting pregnant.

As much as you may want to think otherwise, there are very few guys out there who'd be getting hot and heavy with a girl, and when she says "Wait, I'm 12", would then keep going.


There isn't a magical rule that excuses ignorance for the presence of broken laws. Is there a law prohibiting asking to see someone's ID before assuming she's telling the truth?

What kind of bullshit are you pulling out of your ass? Get the fuck out of here with that ignorance.
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weekoldhotdog
06/23/18 9:38:28 AM
#74:


DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
weekoldhotdog posted...
I don't care if she's 12 and looks 40. She's not old enough to consent. That makes this a crime no matter HOW you look at it. So many disgusting people in this topic, fucking makes me sick.

I don't CARE if she lied. His FAULT. For putting her in a situtation in the first place. Fucking lock him up in American prisons, I say.

And was he supposed to magically know her age? Anyone can lie about their age (within reason), but she admitted that she lied to him. And no, she wasn't old enough to legally consent to sex, but he didn't know that. And according to the article, she left "on good terms", which means she didn't feel pressured. Her only worry was about possibly getting pregnant.

As much as you may want to think otherwise, there are very few guys out there who'd be getting hot and heavy with a girl, and when she says "Wait, I'm 12", would then keep going.


By your post ALONE, you are OKAY with UNKNOWINGLY having SEXUAL INTERCOURSE with a minor AS LONG as SHE DOESN'T HONESTLY DISCLOSE HER AGE, did I get that clear or should I edit my post?
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EnragedSlith
06/23/18 9:38:34 AM
#75:


Id really like to see this girl if shes somehow able to pass as 16+ at 12. Im calling bullshit
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cjsdowg
06/23/18 9:43:33 AM
#76:


Bad_Mojo posted...
I honestly want to know, what's the best way to ask a girl her age?


If you are college aged ask her major if you are older ask her what do you do.
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weekoldhotdog
06/23/18 9:47:58 AM
#77:


DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
weekoldhotdog posted...
I don't care if she's 12 and looks 40. She's not old enough to consent. That makes this a crime no matter HOW you look at it. So many disgusting people in this topic, fucking makes me sick.

I don't CARE if she lied. His FAULT. For putting her in a situtation in the first place. Fucking lock him up in American prisons, I say.


As much as you may want to think otherwise, there are very few guys out there who'd be getting hot and heavy with a girl, and when she says "Wait, I'm 12", would then keep going.

!

I'm tagging you.
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krazychao5
06/23/18 9:54:15 AM
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spikethedevil
06/23/18 9:54:53 AM
#79:


weekoldhotdog posted...
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
weekoldhotdog posted...
I don't care if she's 12 and looks 40. She's not old enough to consent. That makes this a crime no matter HOW you look at it. So many disgusting people in this topic, fucking makes me sick.

I don't CARE if she lied. His FAULT. For putting her in a situtation in the first place. Fucking lock him up in American prisons, I say.


As much as you may want to think otherwise, there are very few guys out there who'd be getting hot and heavy with a girl, and when she says "Wait, I'm 12", would then keep going.


Did you REALLY fucking edit your post to say that there are VERY FEW GUYS who would REFUSE to have sex with a 12 year old?!

I'm tagging you.


@weekoldhotdog Erm no he didn't you may want to read the edits again.
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weekoldhotdog
06/23/18 9:58:27 AM
#80:


spikethedevil posted...
weekoldhotdog posted...
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
weekoldhotdog posted...
I don't care if she's 12 and looks 40. She's not old enough to consent. That makes this a crime no matter HOW you look at it. So many disgusting people in this topic, fucking makes me sick.

I don't CARE if she lied. His FAULT. For putting her in a situtation in the first place. Fucking lock him up in American prisons, I say.


As much as you may want to think otherwise, there are very few guys out there who'd be getting hot and heavy with a girl, and when she says "Wait, I'm 12", would then keep going.


Did you REALLY fucking edit your post to say that there are VERY FEW GUYS who would REFUSE to have sex with a 12 year old?!

I'm tagging you.


@weekoldhotdog Erm no he didn't you may want to read the edits again.


Sorry, was fired up and got dyslexic trying to read his fucked up nonsense.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
06/23/18 10:03:43 AM
#81:


weekoldhotdog posted...
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
weekoldhotdog posted...
I don't care if she's 12 and looks 40. She's not old enough to consent. That makes this a crime no matter HOW you look at it. So many disgusting people in this topic, fucking makes me sick.

I don't CARE if she lied. His FAULT. For putting her in a situtation in the first place. Fucking lock him up in American prisons, I say.


As much as you may want to think otherwise, there are very few guys out there who'd be getting hot and heavy with a girl, and when she says "Wait, I'm 12", would then keep going.

Did you REALLY fucking edit your post to say that there are VERY FEW GUYS who would REFUSE to have sex with a 12 year old?!

I'm tagging you.

Uh...no? What I said was there are "very few guys" who would be in that position and then continue once she disclosed her age.

Instead of tagging me, maybe you should work on your reading comprehension.
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thelovefist
06/23/18 10:09:55 AM
#82:


PIITB415 posted...
Good for him if she actually lied and he didn't know she was a minor.

What the hell is wrong with you?
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weekoldhotdog
06/23/18 10:10:58 AM
#83:


Nah bro, I read just fine.

You edited your post to make it sound less creepy than it did and I jumped all over you for it.

Don't tell me how to tag you.
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weekoldhotdog
06/23/18 10:11:54 AM
#84:


See, you just did it again
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spikethedevil
06/23/18 10:13:50 AM
#85:


weekoldhotdog posted...
Nah bro, I read just fine.

You edited your post to make it sound less creepy than it did and I jumped all over you for it.

Don't tell me how to tag you.


Clearly you didn't as if you actually read the edits you would know that's not what he did.
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weekoldhotdog
06/23/18 10:19:29 AM
#86:


spikethedevil posted...
weekoldhotdog posted...
Nah bro, I read just fine.

You edited your post to make it sound less creepy than it did and I jumped all over you for it.

Don't tell me how to tag you.


Clearly you didn't as if you actually read the edits you would know that's not what he did.


lmao, he added that "according to the article, she wasn't pressured and left only wondering if she was pregnant"

Yeah I read the edits, but thanks for not noticing the fact that the guy got her drunk at a party first.

Maybe YOU should learn how to read before addressing me addressing someone else on their editing habits.
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weekoldhotdog
06/23/18 10:20:54 AM
#87:


Take your garbage defense force the fuck out of here
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
06/23/18 10:25:10 AM
#88:


spike, I appreciate you supporting me, but maybe you should lay off. Let the frothing mad dog have his bone. You wouldn't want to him to tag you.

And on that note...

weekoldhotdog posted...
See, you just did it again

Only edit I did in the first post was to reword what I said. In fact, let's look at these edits right here on the page, so no one has to go anywhere else.

Original: And how did was he supposed to know her age? Anyone can lie about their age (within reason), but she admitted that she lied to him. And no, she wasn't old enough to legally consent to sex, but he didn't know that. As much as you may want to think otherwise, there are very few guys out there who would be getting hot and heavy with a girl, and when she says "Wait, I'm 12", then keep going.
Since you're taking umbrage with the second part of the post, we'll focus on that. Here I am clearly stating that there aren't that many men who would, when finding out their impending sexual partner was 12 years old, basically say "Meh, who cares".

Edit 1: And how did was he supposed to know her age? Anyone can lie about their age (within reason), but she admitted that she lied to him. And no, she wasn't old enough to legally consent to sex, but he didn't know that. And according to the article, she left "on good terms", which means she didn't feel pressured. Her only worry was about possibly getting pregnant.

As much as you may want to think otherwise, there are very few guys out there who would be getting hot and heavy with a girl, and when she says "Wait, I'm 12", then keep going.

Here I added the clarification that she wasn't upset or anything, and paragraph broke the second part.

Edit 2: And how was he supposed to know her age? Anyone can lie about their age (within reason), but she admitted that she lied to him. And no, she wasn't old enough to legally consent to sex, but he didn't know that. And according to the article, she left "on good terms", which means she didn't feel pressured. Her only worry was about possibly getting pregnant.

As much as you may want to think otherwise, there are very few guys out there who would be getting hot and heavy with a girl, and when she says "Wait, I'm 12", then keep going.

This was a typo, I removed 'did' from the first line.

Edit 3: And was he supposed to magically know her age? Anyone can lie about their age (within reason), but she admitted that she lied to him. And no, she wasn't old enough to legally consent to sex, but he didn't know that. And according to the article, she left "on good terms", which means she didn't feel pressured. Her only worry was about possibly getting pregnant.

As much as you may want to think otherwise, there are very few guys out there who would be getting hot and heavy with a girl, and when she says "Wait, I'm 12", then keep going.

This was a reworking, changing 'how was he supposed to know her age' to 'was he supposed to magically know her age'.

Edit 4: And was he supposed to magically know her age? Anyone can lie about their age (within reason), but she admitted that she lied to him. And no, she wasn't old enough to legally consent to sex, but he didn't know that. And according to the article, she left "on good terms", which means she didn't feel pressured. Her only worry was about possibly getting pregnant.

As much as you may want to think otherwise, there are very few guys out there who'd be getting hot and heavy with a girl, and when she says "Wait, I'm 12", would then keep going.

This was a reworking, moving 'would' to different place in the sentence.

And BTW, nothing in the article says he got her drunk. You're reaching.
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weekoldhotdog
06/23/18 10:28:04 AM
#89:


DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
spike, I appreciate you supporting me, but maybe you should lay off. Let the frothing mad dog have his bone. You wouldn't want to him to tag you.

And on that note...

weekoldhotdog posted...
See, you just did it again


[INSERT SMOKE AND MIRRORS TO DEFLECT ME STANDING UP FOR A GUY RAPING A 12 YEAR OLD]

And BTW, nothing in the article says he got her drunk. You're reaching.

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weekoldhotdog
06/23/18 10:32:38 AM
#90:


The fact that you keep coming back and fighting me on this just shows how morally corrupt you are.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
06/23/18 10:33:06 AM
#91:


weekoldhotdog posted...
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
spike, I appreciate you supporting me, but maybe you should lay off. Let the frothing mad dog have his bone. You wouldn't want to him to tag you.

And on that note...

weekoldhotdog posted...
See, you just did it again


[INSERT SMOKE AND MIRRORS TO DEFLECT ME STANDING UP FOR A GUY RAPING A 12 YEAR OLD]

And BTW, nothing in the article says he got her drunk. You're reaching.

I'll try this one more time, then I'm done.

I am not 'standing up for a guy raping a 12 year old'. If he'd raped her, I'd say crucify him. Literally. With 4x4's and carriage bolts.

That's not what happened here. He met a girl who claimed she was 16 (the age of consent in the UK), who by all accounts looked 16, and they had sex. She never made any claim that he coerced her in any way, and again by all accounts, he was devastated to learn the truth about her age.
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weekoldhotdog
06/23/18 10:33:56 AM
#92:


DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
weekoldhotdog posted...
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
spike, I appreciate you supporting me, but maybe you should lay off. Let the frothing mad dog have his bone. You wouldn't want to him to tag you.

And on that note...

weekoldhotdog posted...
See, you just did it again


[INSERT SMOKE AND MIRRORS TO DEFLECT ME STANDING UP FOR A GUY RAPING A 12 YEAR OLD]

And BTW, nothing in the article says he got her drunk. You're reaching.

I'll try this one more time, then I'm done.

I am not 'standing up for a guy raping a 12 year old'. If he'd raped her, I'd say crucify him. Literally. With 4x4's and carriage bolts.

That's not what happened here. He met a girl who claimed she was 16 (the age of consent in the UK), who by all accounts looked 16, and they had sex. She never made any claim that he coerced her in any way, and again by all accounts, he was devastated to learn the truth about her age.


That's rape.
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krazychao5
06/23/18 10:34:50 AM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
That's rape.

Yeah, the poor girl raped him. I feel bad for him.
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weekoldhotdog
06/23/18 10:35:57 AM
#94:


Wow, joking about rape, especially when it comes to a 12 year old girl. Fucking disgusting.
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krazychao5
06/23/18 10:48:43 AM
#95:


comedy and tragedy are two sides of the same coin
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weekoldhotdog
06/23/18 10:52:39 AM
#96:


krazychao5 posted...
comedy and tragedy are two sides of the same coin


As is crime and punishment.
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krazychao5
06/23/18 10:55:40 AM
#97:


weekoldhotdog posted...
krazychao5 posted...
comedy and tragedy are two sides of the same coin


As is crime and punishment.

and she committed a crime and he is not paying the punishment. win/win
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weekoldhotdog
06/23/18 10:58:51 AM
#98:


I like that you think that you're trolling me, but you're really just showing how sick of a sense of humor you have. I'm sure the mods will find it just as funny.
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krazychao5
06/23/18 11:04:09 AM
#99:


weekoldhotdog posted...
I like that you think that you're trolling me, but you're really just showing how sick of a sense of humor you have. I'm sure the mods will find it just as funny.

she is responsible for her own actions. she is the one who was in the wrong in this situation.

i don't understand how you think otherwise.
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weekoldhotdog
06/23/18 11:07:34 AM
#100:


reported and blocked for being a disgusting human being.
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