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tennisdude818 06/17/18 11:50:18 AM #103: |
My initial reaction is that deportation is a government program, and therefore its done as badly as any other government program in the US.
Im all for finding a way to deport families in one piece. The asylum side of it is sad, but it really isnt the US taxpayers responsibility to house, cloth, feed, and educate all of the children in the 3rd world. We shouldnt make an exception for the families that come to our doorstep. If you want to help people, the are charitable options for you to do so with your own time and money. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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southcoast09 06/17/18 11:50:51 AM #104: |
Some people dont understand how this works or why its happening. Chain migration is the cause of this.
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Shuto-uke 06/17/18 12:08:04 PM #105: |
southcoast09 posted...
Chain migration is the cause of this. What does the ability that a US Citizen sponsor his parents or siblings have to do with your boy separating families or illegals? You people just don't like legal immigration ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 06/17/18 12:09:50 PM #107: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Gunvalkyrie2 posted...shockthemonkey posted...Lord_Shadow posted...shockthemonkey posted...shockthemonkey posted...What good this even serve? Who the fuck benefits from children being torn from their families and locked in interment camps and tent cities? That would require the ability to put themselves in someone else's shoes. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metro2 06/17/18 12:16:48 PM #108: |
Im all for finding a way to deport families in one piece. The asylum side of it is sad, but it really isnt the US taxpayers responsibility to house, cloth, feed, and educate all of the children in the 3rd world. But aren't we all God's children? Why do people only care about the human rights of their own people and not the whole world? We're such hypocrites, us humans. We like to pretend we're all noble, but turn a blind eye away from things happening outside our backyard. Whatever happened to that famous quote Give me your tired, your poor; your huddled masses yearning to breathe free; the wretched refuse of your teeming shore; send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me. I lift my lamp beside the golden door" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kayoticdreamz 06/17/18 12:20:59 PM #109: |
Metro2 posted...
Im all for finding a way to deport families in one piece. The asylum side of it is sad, but it really isnt the US taxpayers responsibility to house, cloth, feed, and educate all of the children in the 3rd world. for fucks sake....do some math. america cannot afford to under any circumstance, especially given it's 20+ trillion in debt, and it's own economic and social problems on top of that, to cloth feed and take care of the entire freaking planet. if we keep on taking in the entire third world into america, america will literally become the third world. and call me selfish....but i like not living in a third world country. the solution is simple. put up a border, guard the border, and as per the families? send them all back together. its that simple. and get rid of the whole anchor baby nonsense too. america needs to deal with it's own shit right now, and we already have tons of illegals here that need be dealt with without bringing in even more. but then again....maybe thats the whole point. maybe liberals want to turn america into the third world. southcoast09 posted... Some people dont understand how this works or why its happening. Chain migration is the cause of this. well they sure get a lot of sympathy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 06/17/18 12:27:33 PM #110: |
Metro2 posted...
Im all for finding a way to deport families in one piece. The asylum side of it is sad, but it really isnt the US taxpayers responsibility to house, cloth, feed, and educate all of the children in the 3rd world. Is it our responsibility to feed, clothe, house, and educate all of the children in the 3rd world? Im guessing you dont have kids, but I dont appreciate being forced to pay for everybody elses family before paying for my own family. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TommyG663513 06/17/18 12:41:35 PM #111: |
PiOverlord posted...
Call me evil, but I am not too sympathetic. I won't call you evil, but nothing about your post makes any sense at all. Do you have any understanding of the issue being discussed? --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TommyG663513 06/17/18 12:49:19 PM #112: |
PiOverlord posted...
Here comes the self-righteous crowd, lol. Yeah you deserve consequences for your words. You basically deserve to be told your arguments are terrible and you don't understand very basic logic. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TommyG663513 06/17/18 12:55:20 PM #113: |
kayoticdreamz posted...
Metro2 posted...Im all for finding a way to deport families in one piece. The asylum side of it is sad, but it really isnt the US taxpayers responsibility to house, cloth, feed, and educate all of the children in the 3rd world. I don't think you have any idea what a third world country is if you think there is a remote possibility we turn into one by having less strict immigration laws. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TommyG663513 06/17/18 12:56:50 PM #114: |
EmeralDragon23 posted...
lmao ignoring the fact they're doing it to legal asylum seekers Phantom_Nook posted... Phantom_Nook posted...Reminder that these people are presenting themselves to border patrol. They have committed no crimes. Yeah everyone defending his seems to also be conveniently missing this important fact. Shouldn't they be waiting for all of the facts to come in? --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 06/17/18 1:51:14 PM #115: |
TommyG663513 posted...
I don't think you have any idea what a third world country is if you think there is a remote possibility we turn into one by having less strict immigration laws. Actually there is a possibility of that happening. A significant percentage of 3rd world immigrants (not specifically referring to illegal immigrants) end up relying on some sort of government assistance. Combining that with the fact that Latin America includes economies that have collapsed under the weight of their own social spending multiple times, do you think those people will generally vote for bigger government or smaller government? Will they call for bigger deficits or smaller deficits? We don't have magic soil that makes people suddenly respect property rights. (Edit: Not to overstate how much non-immigrant Americans respect property rights. A bunch of old "small government" conservatives will still say "Don't touch my Social Security" knowing full well that it has devolved into nothing more than inter-generational theft.) A more extreme example would be Western and Southern Europe where economic migrants shop for welfare by country. Economies in countries like Italy, Spain, and Greece will collapse from excess social spending. It's not all because of economic migrants, but it won't be pretty when a bunch of communities that rely on welfare suddenly lose it all overnight. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kayoticdreamz 06/17/18 2:20:09 PM #116: |
tennisdude818 posted...
TommyG663513 posted...I don't think you have any idea what a third world country is if you think there is a remote possibility we turn into one by having less strict immigration laws. this and it's not even just what you said, you cannot just transplant a bunch of people from third world poverty stricken areas and magically expect to not only incorporate into THE first world country, but then maintain it. it's delusional to think this. plus the attitude that america cannot transform into a third world country is so arrogantly cocky, it defies all reason and common sense. even Rome fell. america, and really most western countries that accepting huge floods of immigrants, are facing massive problems. since america is so huge, the problems are more isolated, but look at CA, it's basically turned into the third world in certain areas. these immigrants come over and bring with them their culture, and their culture isn't always compatible with 1st world ideals. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Atralis 06/18/18 1:40:05 AM #117: |
Error1355 posted...
MedzXVIII posted...shockthemonkey posted...Seeking asylum isnt a crime You really think they were searching for the nearest border patrol station when they got picked up. also most of them are from central america and crossed all the way through mexico before getting here. Why not ask for asylum there instead of here? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sphyx 06/18/18 1:41:39 AM #118: |
Children have half a parent each?
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EverDownward 06/18/18 1:44:58 AM #119: |
...I'm tired, I misread the OP as "Nearly 2,000 Chicken Taken Under Trump's New Border Policy."
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Lordgold666 06/18/18 2:03:13 AM #120: |
What are all these ppl seeking asylum from?
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EmeralDragon23 06/18/18 9:40:42 AM #121: |
Lordgold666 posted...
What are all these ppl seeking asylum from? Does it matter? Determining whether they're fearing something legitimate is part of the LEGAL process under which they're entering the U.S. How many goalposts are you going to move? --- El Psy Congroo 3DS FC: 3952-7469-6840 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Abyssea 06/18/18 9:46:18 AM #122: |
what are we gonna do with all these kids we've taken though? child soldiers?
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DifferentialEquation 06/18/18 9:51:54 AM #123: |
EmeralDragon23 posted...
lmao ignoring the fact they're doing it to legal asylum seekers No, they're not. They're claiming that they're seeking asylum after they get caught sneaking in illegaly. It's like someone who gets caught leaving the store with merchandise hidden on their person and then claims they were going to pay for it. --- There's no business to be taxed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Knowledge_King 06/18/18 10:00:54 AM #124: |
Zikten posted...
Knowledge_King posted...Um...those are both before Trump? Um...ok. It's just not entirely relevant to this topic as none of those examples are under Trump's presidency or policy. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Run: 4 Stars and IndieReader Approved:https://www.amazon.com/Run-M-N-ebook/dp/B076R7DCHN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Oatcakes 06/18/18 10:10:35 AM #125: |
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-Unowninator- 06/18/18 11:26:00 AM #126: |
Zikten posted...
I refuse to believe that 2,000 families willing knew that their kids would be taken, and still came Jesus Christ. It's like an internment camp for kids. I don't even like kids, but I hate this even more. Edit: I'm just reading that kids are dying. Make that concentration camp. --- ''25 posts in and no one has addressed the orignal question. Also, I'm continuing that streak :P'' ~ Lord_Zenki Join the unknown: http://goo.gl/S75cmn ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gunvalkyrie2 06/18/18 11:29:37 AM #127: |
With allllll the millions of people coming from mexico why isnt it held responsible or at least put on the hotseat as to WHY MILLIONS ARE FLEEING?
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Gunvalkyrie2 06/18/18 11:31:25 AM #128: |
-Unowninator- posted...
Zikten posted...I refuse to believe that 2,000 families willing knew that their kids would be taken, and still came So many tears. None for Americans who are killed by illegals every year that arent supposed to be here. --- #BanBlobboyendings ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirkDiggles 06/18/18 11:31:56 AM #130: |
I watched the news last night and it showed a bunch of kids locked up in a cage and I thought to myself, Is this 1930s Germany?
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-Unowninator- 06/18/18 11:35:07 AM #131: |
Gunvalkyrie2 posted...
So many tears. None for Americans who are killed by illegals every year that arent supposed to be here. How can you even troll about this?! --- ''25 posts in and no one has addressed the orignal question. Also, I'm continuing that streak :P'' ~ Lord_Zenki Join the unknown: http://goo.gl/S75cmn ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 06/18/18 11:40:13 AM #132: |
-Unowninator- posted...
Gunvalkyrie2 posted...So many tears. None for Americans who are killed by illegals every year that arent supposed to be here. The mods here are garbage. --- Ad Hominem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 06/18/18 11:46:51 AM #133: |
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Peter_Giffyndor 06/18/18 11:49:15 AM #134: |
50Blessings posted...
Imagine if they didn't take the kids away, then the headline would be "Government sends children back to Cartel death squads in Mexico!" /topic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gunvalkyrie2 06/18/18 11:51:41 AM #135: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Gunvalkyrie2 posted...With allllll the millions of people coming from mexico why isnt it held responsible or at least put on the hotseat as to WHY MILLIONS ARE FLEEING? Apparently if it THAT BAD shouldnt someone be responsible? --- #BanBlobboyendings ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gunvalkyrie2 06/18/18 11:53:12 AM #136: |
Webmaster4531 posted...
-Unowninator- posted...Gunvalkyrie2 posted...So many tears. None for Americans who are killed by illegals every year that arent supposed to be here. Sad you heart is closed to victims of DEATH but is open to kids playing ps4 in a camp. --- #BanBlobboyendings ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 06/18/18 11:56:03 AM #137: |
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-Unowninator- 06/18/18 12:09:19 PM #138: |
Webmaster4531 posted...
-Unowninator- posted...Gunvalkyrie2 posted...So many tears. None for Americans who are killed by illegals every year that arent supposed to be here. I meant how can TC be such an asshole. Also, I've posted it before, I'll post it again: https://imgur.com/k9z8XEt --- ''25 posts in and no one has addressed the orignal question. Also, I'm continuing that streak :P'' ~ Lord_Zenki Join the unknown: http://goo.gl/S75cmn ... Copied to Clipboard!
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josifrees 06/18/18 1:28:56 PM #140: |
The amount of ignorance in this topic is astonishing. Immigration has massive positive effects on economic growth. Cheap labor is steroids for capitalism.
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JE19426 06/18/18 2:48:27 PM #141: |
DifferentialEquation posted...
No, they're not. They're claiming that they're seeking asylum after they get caught sneaking in illegaly. That's a perfectly legal way to claim asylum, so you're argument they aren't legal asylum seekers is pretty weak. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Freddie_Mercury 06/18/18 2:52:34 PM #142: |
wonder whats keeping all the pizzagaters quiet
I thought they cared about missing kids --- the last jedi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 06/18/18 3:05:41 PM #143: |
Freddie_Mercury posted...
wonder whats keeping all the pizzagaters quiet immigrants (especially non-white ones) aren't humans to the types of people that were into pizzagate --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EvalAngell 06/18/18 5:43:24 PM #144: |
You have to be the biggest scumbag on the planet to actually be working as an ICE guard there and not have a problem with this. "Just following orders" my ass. Literally Nazi Germany all over again.
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Gunvalkyrie2 06/18/18 8:14:04 PM #145: |
josifrees posted...
The amount of ignorance in this topic is astonishing. Immigration has massive positive effects on economic growth. Cheap labor is steroids for capitalism. Ignorance indeed. Driving down wages for all is another knife in the back. Not to mention the millions wasted on services like hospitals and schools. --- #BanBlobboyendings ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gunvalkyrie2 06/18/18 8:15:18 PM #146: |
JE19426 posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...No, they're not. They're claiming that they're seeking asylum after they get caught sneaking in illegaly. You are perfectly ignorant. --- #BanBlobboyendings ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 06/18/18 11:28:53 PM #147: |
Gunvalkyrie2 posted...
You are perfectly ignorant. If understanding refugee law makes me ignorant wherever you live, clearly that place has a strange definition of ignorant. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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