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Darklit_Minuet
06/09/18 9:10:09 PM
#151:


Chicken_Butt posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
You say "cheating" like they're actively doing something wrong to play.

They have unfair, biologically predetermined advantages over every other competitor. You're not as clever as you'd like to think with your words.

Tall players have unfair, biologically predetermined advantages over every other competitor in basketball. Should we ban tall people from playing basketball to be fair to those who weren't born with these advantages?
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chrono625
06/09/18 9:11:56 PM
#152:


Gunplagirl makes supporting transgenders incredibly difficult.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
06/09/18 9:12:27 PM
#153:


@Darklit_Minuet

Can you say anything more stupid that clearly is not the same thing ?, did you even thing before saying something this dumb and unrelated to the topic ??
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Darklit_Minuet
06/09/18 9:13:26 PM
#154:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
@Darklit_Minuet

Can you say anything more stupid that clearly is not the same thing ?, did you even thing before saying something this dumb and unrelated to the topic ??

How isn't it the same? I thought we should ban biological advantages so everyone would be on an even playing field

Or is it only when they belong to a group you don't like
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chrono625
06/09/18 9:14:37 PM
#155:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
@Darklit_Minuet

Can you say anything more stupid that clearly is not the same thing ?, did you even thing before saying something this dumb and unrelated to the topic ??


Logic escapes him. He thinks people who break laws and have banned substances confiscated should be reimbursed.
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LenovoFan462
06/09/18 9:15:17 PM
#156:


What a crock
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Darklit_Minuet
06/09/18 9:15:37 PM
#157:


chrono625 posted...
RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
@Darklit_Minuet

Can you say anything more stupid that clearly is not the same thing ?, did you even thing before saying something this dumb and unrelated to the topic ??


Logic escapes him. He thinks people who break laws and have banned substances confiscated should be reimbursed.

Because I don't think substances should be banned in the first place. Please keep up
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gunplagirl
06/09/18 9:17:33 PM
#158:


Howl posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Howl posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Howl posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Two ways to answer that

One, because being discriminated against for being trans is steeped in upholding stereotypes solely on the basis of sex

Or two, because sex and gender ARE the same thing and Gavin is a male, man, etc regardless of his genitalis configuration at any point in his life


Wtf does that 2nd part mean? You mean his biological sex is that of the opposite sex that he was born as?


Yes, he's a man and his sex is male. Chromosomes arent the end all be all. Gonadal dysgenesis births have been recorded, the most reported on one took place in 2015, I believe.


This is the most ridiculously stupid argument I've ever seen made here. "His" objective sex is female. What you are arguing is scientifically false. You're literally just making shit up because the judge made an obviously irrational assertion and you're attempting extremely poorly to defend it.


When presented with verified cases that prove there's need for a nuanced approach to sex, you say it's stupid.

Have you karyotyped and phenotyped Gavin? Can you even prove that he has XX chromosomes? Assume HIPAA doesn't exist, of course.


You are literally the only person I've ever seen make an argument favoring transgenders that has said sex and gender are the same thing. The existence of gender dysphoria alone disproves your argument entirely and is literally defined as identifying as a gender different than ones biological sex.


you have it all wrong, gender dysphoria has to do with anatomical layouts of things, presentation factors in as well but you clearly don't understand what the heck gender dysphoria actually is.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
06/09/18 9:18:17 PM
#159:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
chrono625 posted...
RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
@Darklit_Minuet

Can you say anything more stupid that clearly is not the same thing ?, did you even thing before saying something this dumb and unrelated to the topic ??


Logic escapes him. He thinks people who break laws and have banned substances confiscated should be reimbursed.

Because I don't think substances should be banned in the first place. Please keep up


So breaking the law and having illegal substances is acceptable to you, glad that you cleared that up and I know to never take anything you say seriously from now on.

@Darklit_Minuet
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gunplagirl
06/09/18 9:19:20 PM
#160:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
Transwomen having more testosterone because they are biologically male is what gives them an unfair advantage.

Lance, Barry, and Jon cheated by taking steroids, by having more testosterone because they are male is cheating when they are competing in a all female event when they are male. Just cause these transwomen identify as female does not mean they should be able to compete with real girls/women due to the biological advantage they have.

Against other males these two are weak as fuck but against women they do have an advantage.

@gunplagirl


Hormone replacement therapy, even as a teenager they'd still be on enough testosterone blockers that they'd have less t. Or none at all since they could very well have been young enough to get puberty blockers before they got far enough through first puberty.
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Howl
06/09/18 9:20:13 PM
#161:


gunplagirl posted...
Howl posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Howl posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Howl posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Two ways to answer that

One, because being discriminated against for being trans is steeped in upholding stereotypes solely on the basis of sex

Or two, because sex and gender ARE the same thing and Gavin is a male, man, etc regardless of his genitalis configuration at any point in his life


Wtf does that 2nd part mean? You mean his biological sex is that of the opposite sex that he was born as?


Yes, he's a man and his sex is male. Chromosomes arent the end all be all. Gonadal dysgenesis births have been recorded, the most reported on one took place in 2015, I believe.


This is the most ridiculously stupid argument I've ever seen made here. "His" objective sex is female. What you are arguing is scientifically false. You're literally just making shit up because the judge made an obviously irrational assertion and you're attempting extremely poorly to defend it.


When presented with verified cases that prove there's need for a nuanced approach to sex, you say it's stupid.

Have you karyotyped and phenotyped Gavin? Can you even prove that he has XX chromosomes? Assume HIPAA doesn't exist, of course.


You are literally the only person I've ever seen make an argument favoring transgenders that has said sex and gender are the same thing. The existence of gender dysphoria alone disproves your argument entirely and is literally defined as identifying as a gender different than ones biological sex.


you have it all wrong, gender dysphoria has to do with anatomical layouts of things, presentation factors in as well but you clearly don't understand what the heck gender dysphoria actually is.


You clearly do not know what sex, gender, or gender dysphoria actually are.
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gunplagirl
06/09/18 9:22:06 PM
#162:


Howl has nothing to contribute as usual

But rather than beating a dead horse (oh wait that's just Howl), I'm gonna go do something productive like absolutely nothing
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gatorsPENSbucs
06/09/18 9:24:05 PM
#163:


Just hope none of this fucks stuff up when my kids are older. Be filing lawsuits and all types of things towards these school districts allowing this.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
06/09/18 9:24:26 PM
#164:


Unless this comes out to be the case I doubt these two males had hormone replacement therapy.

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Darklit_Minuet
06/09/18 9:25:13 PM
#165:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
chrono625 posted...
RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
@Darklit_Minuet

Can you say anything more stupid that clearly is not the same thing ?, did you even thing before saying something this dumb and unrelated to the topic ??


Logic escapes him. He thinks people who break laws and have banned substances confiscated should be reimbursed.

Because I don't think substances should be banned in the first place. Please keep up


So breaking the law and having illegal substances is acceptable to you, glad that you cleared that up and I know to never take anything you say seriously from now on.

@Darklit_Minuet

Breaking bad laws is acceptable, yes.

For instance, Rosa Parks broke the law, but it was a good thing that she did
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C7D
06/09/18 9:30:30 PM
#166:


gunplagirl posted...
RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
Transwomen having more testosterone because they are biologically male is what gives them an unfair advantage.

Lance, Barry, and Jon cheated by taking steroids, by having more testosterone because they are male is cheating when they are competing in a all female event when they are male. Just cause these transwomen identify as female does not mean they should be able to compete with real girls/women due to the biological advantage they have.

Against other males these two are weak as fuck but against women they do have an advantage.

@gunplagirl


Hormone replacement therapy, even as a teenager they'd still be on enough testosterone blockers that they'd have less t. Or none at all since they could very well have been young enough to get puberty blockers before they got far enough through first puberty.


Only 1 in 4 would ever be able to emulate female testosterone levels. The other 3 in 4 would always be higher.
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-Bungle-
06/09/18 9:42:49 PM
#167:


Another topic with gunplagirl getting owned.
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Grischnak
06/09/18 9:49:40 PM
#168:


gunplagirl posted...
Being trans is the same as willingly seeking out illegal and banned substances for the sole sake of enhancing sports performances?

Hot diggity.


Cheating at poker is not the same as cheating on your taxes. Both are are still cheating however.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
06/09/18 9:54:54 PM
#169:


@Darklit_Minuet

Rosa Parks was an exception to the rule, 99% of the time breaking the law is not a good thing, you are NOT Rosa Parks.

You do not get to bullshit your way by saying what laws are good or bad, that is up to people using the courts and legal methods to contest a law.
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tennisdude818
06/09/18 10:01:02 PM
#170:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Tall players have unfair, biologically predetermined advantages over every other competitor in basketball. Should we ban tall people from playing basketball to be fair to those who weren't born with these advantages?


Do you realize that if we mixed genders for all sports, there would not be any women playing at the highest levels? This extends to college as well. Do you see that as the same as unintentionally excluding 5'0 basketball players?

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Howl
06/09/18 10:18:35 PM
#171:


gunplagirl posted...
Howl has nothing to contribute as usual

But rather than beating a dead horse (oh wait that's just Howl), I'm gonna go do something productive like absolutely nothing


Absolutely nothing is a trend with you. Like your arguments merit always amounts to absolutely nothing.
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gatorsPENSbucs
06/09/18 10:23:04 PM
#172:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Chicken_Butt posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
You say "cheating" like they're actively doing something wrong to play.

They have unfair, biologically predetermined advantages over every other competitor. You're not as clever as you'd like to think with your words.

Tall players have unfair, biologically predetermined advantages over every other competitor in basketball. Should we ban tall people from playing basketball to be fair to those who weren't born with these advantages?

You obviously dont watch basketball, correct?
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Darklit_Minuet
06/09/18 10:31:43 PM
#173:


tennisdude818 posted...
Do you realize that if we mixed genders for all sports, there would not be any women playing at the highest levels?

Do you know if we mixed weight classes for all spots, there would not be any skinny people playing at the highest levels?
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Vtriggering
06/09/18 10:36:16 PM
#174:


We are finding out the results of battle of the sexes in an interesting new form.
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Lathissamus
06/09/18 11:06:49 PM
#175:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Do you realize that if we mixed genders for all sports, there would not be any women playing at the highest levels?

Do you know if we mixed weight classes for all spots, there would not be any skinny people playing at the highest levels?

Factually false.
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Ajenla
06/09/18 11:08:35 PM
#176:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Do you realize that if we mixed genders for all sports, there would not be any women playing at the highest levels?

Do you know if we mixed weight classes for all spots, there would not be any skinny people playing at the highest levels?

How many sports even have weight classes? Besides sports that involve fighting. Weight sorts itself out for sports, that's why football players are huge but baseball players are lean. What are you even saying with that post?

And for better or worse, being tall is just a natural biological advantage within your sex. Having an unnaturally larger amount of testosterone then youe peers is unfair. Having a MtF compete with biological girls is unfair, and they shouldn't do it imo.
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Darklit_Minuet
06/09/18 11:09:33 PM
#177:


Doesn't matter, sports suck either way.

But if you're gonna have em, be inclusive
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FlyingForever
06/09/18 11:13:39 PM
#178:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Doesn't matter, sports suck either way.

But if you're gonna have em, be inclusive


Found the unpopular kid in school
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JahnDixonUSA
06/09/18 11:14:54 PM
#179:


They're still, and always will be, biologically men. This is ridiculous.

EliteLevel posted...
Fake-Girls breaking records in girls races. No, it's not Fair, next.


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SK8T3R215
06/09/18 11:24:05 PM
#180:


Pretty inspiring to see people with mental illnesses breaking records.
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Howl
06/09/18 11:48:46 PM
#181:


SK8T3R215 posted...
Pretty inspiring to see people with mental illnesses breaking records.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZpIi7IfIYY" data-time="

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thronedfire2
06/09/18 11:49:49 PM
#182:


SK8T3R215 posted...
Pretty inspiring to see people with mental illnesses breaking records.


This post seems to be going for some kind of record, youre an inspiration too
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Rome218
06/10/18 12:03:08 AM
#183:


While I found this story gross, like the male trans guy who won a high school wrestling title in Texas two years in a row.

Feminist should be happy, because men who identify as women are women. And women are just as equal as a guy! We should let NBA players go against the wnba for equality.
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-Bungle-
06/10/18 12:04:10 AM
#184:


Howl posted...
SK8T3R215 posted...
Pretty inspiring to see people with mental illnesses breaking records.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZpIi7IfIYY" data-time="

Lmao
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Geist des Durcheinan
06/10/18 12:20:16 AM
#185:


The world is becoming a land of idiots.
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Dathrowed1
06/10/18 3:06:05 AM
#186:


andel posted...
not really fair but kinda hard to come up with a middle ground

Have people who have the advantage of virility compete against others who have that advantage.
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ForestLogic
06/10/18 3:13:05 AM
#187:


Gunplagirl getting BTFO once again. Guy is one of the most ignorant, misinformed (yet ironically self-serving) posters on the entire website.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
06/10/18 8:54:22 AM
#188:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Doesn't matter, sports suck either way.

But if you're gonna have em, be inclusive

Lol
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danutzsrl
06/10/18 8:58:15 AM
#189:


Well, that's cheating. I think transgenders shouldn't win opposite gender contest.
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Howl
06/10/18 9:23:54 AM
#190:


ForestLogic posted...
Gunplagirl getting BTFO once again. Guy is one of the most ignorant, misinformed (yet ironically self-serving) posters on the entire website.


Literally tried to argue that gender dysphoria is just cross dressing, and a biological female's sex is that of a male regardless of what chromosomes or sexual organs she was born with. Also sex and gender are the same thing but transgenders exist and the entirety of the trans community has argued against gender and sex being the same thing for much longer than a decade now.

@gunplagirl changing minds and changing reality to fit the agenda of the day.
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KamenRiderBlade
06/10/18 9:36:14 AM
#191:


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SageHarpuia
06/10/18 9:55:19 AM
#192:


Leave it to gunplagirl to use a literal birth defect as a basis for saying sex isn't a physical trait.
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Dathrowed1
06/10/18 12:08:57 PM
#193:


Am I the only person who finds this hilarious?

It almost reminds me of this:

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TonyRodney
06/10/18 1:25:50 PM
#194:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Zero_Slash posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy

I feel bad for the real girls cheated out of the state championship, these boys would never cut it in a male competition so they screw over actual women just to get trophies which is pathetic.


So they are actually males? They dressed up as females just to have an easier time winning? That is what you are saying here?

They are actually males. That's a scientific, biological fact.

They should not be allowed to participate in one-gender sports. Period.


What should they be allowed to do in your opinion?

Not compete with females that's for damn sure. Shit let them get notice for the first female to win vs males in track and field or some shit. You know damn well this isn't fair and this bullshit is why some people don't respect this forced SJW crap.
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gamestunner
06/10/18 1:33:15 PM
#195:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
chollima posted...
Andraya

She got to choose her own name, and this garbage is what she picked?


Most likely because his real name was Andre.
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FluttershyPony
06/10/18 1:35:07 PM
#196:


that bitch has mr olympia level deltoids.

Gotta love how black guys on estrogen are still 10x more macho than whiteboys.
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thelovefist
06/11/18 7:37:04 AM
#197:


No surprises that gunplagirl ended up Warned in this topic. They can't control themselves in topics like this.

As for the topic itself. The IOC has guidelines in place that allow transgendered athletes to compete in olympic events. As long as those guidelines are applied consistently, I don't have a problem with these people competing in their preferred gender.
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gamer167
06/11/18 7:40:52 AM
#198:


Sports shouldn't be separated by gender anyways. Let the women get crushed.
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GreatEvilEmpire
06/11/18 4:54:32 PM
#199:


You know what's the worst part about this?

These 'girls' are going to take scholarship money away from female athletes. Men are finding loopholes to compete against women in sports and they're going to win all the prize money.

If this craziness stands, women are going to suffer. I don't understand why feminism isn't fighting for these women.
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garan
06/11/18 5:20:53 PM
#200:


Prestoff posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
I wonder if this will ever change.

It seems like the "social justice" way, but it's unfair to every biological female.


This


Agreed.
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