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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/09/18 3:14:50 PM
#51:


tennisdude818 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy

I feel bad for the real girls cheated out of the state championship, these boys would never cut it in a male competition so they screw over actual women just to get trophies which is pathetic.


So they are actually males? They dressed up as females just to have an easier time winning? That is what you are saying here?


The PC thing to say now is that a M2F trans person is female even if they choose to not receive any treatment to physically transition. Where would you draw the line for sports?

Medical treatment can't completely erase the natural advantage that biological males have in sports, so biological males shouldn't get to play sports on easy mode. If you enjoy celebrating the success of athletes like Serena Williams, you shouldn't favor allowing the 300 ranked Men's player in the world to simply identify as a female and crush Serena 6-1 6-1 every time they play because he couldn't cut it on the Men's circuit.


Basically you're suggesting that these girls are Eric Cartman joining the special Olympics in spite of being able bodied, by deceiving the event organizers, only they are actually good at things unlike Eric Cartman.


I don?t know who those athletes are, but allowing M2F trans athletes to compete with girls opens the door for glory thieves, especially at high levels where money is at stake. Regardless of their intentions, the physical advantage is still there.


Ah, so you're arguing slippery slope. Got it.
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Capn Circus
06/09/18 3:19:21 PM
#52:


This is sick fucking shit
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tennisdude818
06/09/18 3:22:28 PM
#53:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy

I feel bad for the real girls cheated out of the state championship, these boys would never cut it in a male competition so they screw over actual women just to get trophies which is pathetic.


So they are actually males? They dressed up as females just to have an easier time winning? That is what you are saying here?


The PC thing to say now is that a M2F trans person is female even if they choose to not receive any treatment to physically transition. Where would you draw the line for sports?

Medical treatment can't completely erase the natural advantage that biological males have in sports, so biological males shouldn't get to play sports on easy mode. If you enjoy celebrating the success of athletes like Serena Williams, you shouldn't favor allowing the 300 ranked Men's player in the world to simply identify as a female and crush Serena 6-1 6-1 every time they play because he couldn't cut it on the Men's circuit.


Basically you're suggesting that these girls are Eric Cartman joining the special Olympics in spite of being able bodied, by deceiving the event organizers, only they are actually good at things unlike Eric Cartman.


I don?t know who those athletes are, but allowing M2F trans athletes to compete with girls opens the door for glory thieves, especially at high levels where money is at stake. Regardless of their intentions, the physical advantage is still there.


Ah, so you're arguing slippery slope. Got it.


What is the slippery slope in your mind? That something thats completely unfair at the amateur level will move on to the professional level?
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refmon
06/09/18 3:26:31 PM
#54:


Zero_Slash posted...
Feel bad for the biological girls who got cheated in the name of social progress.

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-Bungle-
06/09/18 3:27:57 PM
#55:


NeonOctopus posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Good for them :)

EliteLevel posted...
Girls breaking records in girls races. Fair, next.

This is why Trump won.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/09/18 3:29:06 PM
#56:


The slope is the glory thieves thing... unless were you suggesting these 2 girls are themselves glory thieves and not actually transgender?
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-Bungle-
06/09/18 3:29:46 PM
#57:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy

I feel bad for the real girls cheated out of the state championship, these boys would never cut it in a male competition so they screw over actual women just to get trophies which is pathetic.


So they are actually males? They dressed up as females just to have an easier time winning? That is what you are saying here?

All the virtue signalling you can drum up will still never fill that void you have dude.
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halomonkey1_3_5
06/09/18 3:30:22 PM
#58:


its weird that CE gets more outraged over this kind of thing than over anything that actually impacts their life
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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/09/18 3:31:08 PM
#59:


-Bungle- posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy

I feel bad for the real girls cheated out of the state championship, these boys would never cut it in a male competition so they screw over actual women just to get trophies which is pathetic.


So they are actually males? They dressed up as females just to have an easier time winning? That is what you are saying here?

All the virtue signalling you can drum up will still never fill that void you have dude.


What void? What are you talking about?
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tennisdude818
06/09/18 3:31:45 PM
#60:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
The slope is the glory thieves thing... unless were you suggesting these 2 girls are themselves glory thieves and not actually transgender?


It doesnt matter. If its unfair for a glory thief to do it, its unfair for a genuine trans person to do it.
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UnholyMudcrab
06/09/18 3:42:37 PM
#61:


60 posts down, 440 to go.

Keep going, CE. I'm sure you'll change someone's opinion along the way.
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HiddenLurker
06/09/18 3:46:31 PM
#62:


C7D posted...
Those times arent even that fast. They likely wouldnt even place if they ran with their counterparts, other biological males.

Might be why they wanted to compete with born biological women....
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RainblowDash
06/09/18 3:53:37 PM
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Men do it better
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
06/09/18 3:59:58 PM
#64:


The point is these transexual women are biologically male, them having more testosterone, and physical ability due to being male is why it is unfair to real women that they can even compete in the state championship.

These two might be shitty as fuck against other males but they do have the advantage against actual women and this state championship clearly shows this.
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Vyrulisse
06/09/18 5:14:40 PM
#65:


More biologically male people dominating against biologically female athletes. Unfair at its core because despite what your fee-fees tell you there is a difference.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/09/18 5:17:05 PM
#66:


Vyrulisse posted...
fee-fees


What?
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RE_expert44
06/09/18 5:18:25 PM
#67:


Why are they allowed to enter the competition in the first place?
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Vyrulisse
06/09/18 5:50:28 PM
#68:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
fee-fees


What?

You know what that means, don't pretend to be obtuse just because you can't refute the point.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/09/18 5:59:10 PM
#70:


Vyrulisse posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
fee-fees


What?

You know what that means, don't pretend to be obtuse just because you can't refute the point.


Okay in fact actually give me even more attitude and sass. That will accomplish many things...
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Grischnak
06/09/18 5:59:25 PM
#71:


RIP female sports. This issue will be their destruction. Not that I ever cared about them myself but sucks if you're a fan.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
06/09/18 6:05:16 PM
#72:


Women who compete will be the most angry about this or they should be, what was once a womens competition is now open to males that claim to be women.
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Comfy_Pillow
06/09/18 6:07:09 PM
#73:


What a joke. Takes all of the integrity out of the sport.

They might as well just start a new rule that lets biological women use PEDs. That way the competition might be kinda fair.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/09/18 6:08:30 PM
#74:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
Women who compete will be the most angry about this or they should be, what was once a women?s competition is now open to males that claim to be women.


How do you feel about trans people in general? (As in, like... outside of this particular argument/story)
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DarkChozoGhost
06/09/18 6:12:52 PM
#75:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
chollima posted...
Andraya

She got to choose her own name, and this garbage is what she picked?

Right? This is a common trend. People picking terrible names when they transition. I'm glad Sayoria didn't do that crap
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Big_Nabendu
06/09/18 6:28:32 PM
#76:


Disgusting
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ColdOne666
06/09/18 6:29:02 PM
#77:


I'm a biological boy, so i can just enter and win a girls race now right?
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
06/09/18 6:32:09 PM
#78:


I dont have an issue with transexuals, but when they hurt the integrity of a sports competition no one except them is better off.

Women should not have to compete against males in womens sports, competitions, or anything that is suppose to be women only.

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FlyingForever
06/09/18 6:33:17 PM
#79:


ColdOne666 posted...
I'm a biological boy, so i can just enter and win a girls race now right?


Yup just say you identify as female or robot or gdzilla or whatever you want and you're in !
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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/09/18 6:34:49 PM
#80:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
I don?t have an issue with transexuals, but when they hurt the integrity of a sports competition no one except them is better off.

Women should not have to compete against males in women?s sports, competitions, or anything that is suppose to be women only.

@..................ImTheMacheteGuy


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GreatEvilEmpire
06/09/18 6:35:35 PM
#81:


If you support this, you hate women.
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BillWardsPants
06/09/18 6:47:12 PM
#82:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjekvMVFZRc" data-time="

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SageHarpuia
06/09/18 6:47:59 PM
#83:


People ITT need to stop treating trans women like shit. It's hard enough as it is to convince some people that they are just as female as girls born in the right body, so when you're questioning their right to play sports with other girls you just need to put yourself in their shoes. Why can't these girls enjoy a win every now and then without being shunned for it? This is why suicide rates are so high in the transgender community ffs
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KlownArt
06/09/18 6:54:11 PM
#84:


Things are changing. Let's stop splitting people up. There are fast humans and slow humans. If the slow ones are slow due to their biologic make up then too bad.
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TheCyborgNinja
06/09/18 6:54:23 PM
#85:


Eventually we'll just have sentient robots that identify as humans, then no flesh & blood creatures will be competing in anything ever again.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
06/09/18 6:55:30 PM
#86:


@SageHarpuia

The testosterone and physical advantage being biologically male is why people have a problem with transwomen cheating actual girls/women out of trophies in competitive sports.

Men are physically faster then most women and when it is suppose to be a womens competition but a male wins and a male comes in second it fucks over all the women who competed but lost to a male.
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SageHarpuia
06/09/18 6:56:06 PM
#87:


KlownArt posted...
Things are changing. Let's stop splitting people up. There are fast humans and slow humans. If the slow ones are slow due to their biologic make up then too bad.

This. Having men to compete with will only encourage women to play harder.
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Chicken_Butt
06/09/18 6:57:30 PM
#88:


Zero_Slash posted...
Nope. Not even close to fair. They shouldn't be allowed to compete. They are biologically male, giving them an unfair physical advantage.


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Howl
06/09/18 6:59:23 PM
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You know why this is obviously unfair? We've never seen a FTM trans person compete against men and break records... And we never will.
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SageHarpuia
06/09/18 6:59:27 PM
#90:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
@SageHarpuia

The testosterone and physical advantage being biologically male is why people have a problem with transwomen cheating actual girls/women out of trophies in competitive sports.

Men are physically faster then most women and when it is suppose to be a womens competition but a male wins and a male comes in second it fucks over all the women who competed but lost to a male.

You say "cheating" like they're actively doing something wrong to play. IMO drop the trans prefix and it's the same situation because there were no men on the team :)
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Chicken_Butt
06/09/18 7:02:14 PM
#91:


SageHarpuia posted...
You say "cheating" like they're actively doing something wrong to play.

They have unfair, biologically predetermined advantages over every other competitor. You're not as clever as you'd like to think with your words.
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SageHarpuia
06/09/18 7:04:51 PM
#92:


Chicken_Butt posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
You say "cheating" like they're actively doing something wrong to play.

They have unfair, biologically predetermined advantages over every other competitor. You're not as clever as you'd like to think with your words.

They also have unfair social and physical disadvantages over the other girls, so I'd say it evens out.
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DavidWong
06/09/18 7:05:38 PM
#93:


As a man, my reaction is, this doesn't affect me. I'd leave this to the women to decide if it's unfair or not.

Tbqh I don't think men should have a say in this.
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ColdOne666
06/09/18 7:05:51 PM
#94:


SageHarpuia posted...
People ITT need to stop treating trans women like shit. It's hard enough as it is to convince some people that they are just as female as girls born in the right body, so when you're questioning their right to play sports with other girls you just need to put yourself in their shoes. Why can't these girls enjoy a win every now and then without being shunned for it? This is why suicide rates are so high in the transgender community ffs


They aren't just as female, they literally are biologically male and all the physical advantages that entails.

Because it's not a legit win, it's cheating. Suicide rates have nothing to do with sports lol.
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Chicken_Butt
06/09/18 7:06:36 PM
#95:


SageHarpuia posted...
They also have unfair social and physical disadvantages over the other girls, so I'd say it evens out.

By all means, elaborate.
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FlyingForever
06/09/18 7:06:37 PM
#96:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
Eventually we'll just have sentient robots that identify as humans, then no flesh & blood creatures will be competing in anything ever again.


Why not were just about there

Also take into account the robots feeling plz
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ColdOne666
06/09/18 7:06:37 PM
#97:


SageHarpuia posted...
Chicken_Butt posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
You say "cheating" like they're actively doing something wrong to play.

They have unfair, biologically predetermined advantages over every other competitor. You're not as clever as you'd like to think with your words.

They also have unfair social and physical disadvantages over the other girls, so I'd say it evens out.


What physical disadvantage? They have physical advantages because they are men.
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SageHarpuia
06/09/18 7:09:51 PM
#98:


They have the physical disadvantage of having to fight against their own body. Especially when they start hormone therapy.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
06/09/18 7:12:33 PM
#99:


They still have all the advantages of male physical prowlmess that makes a big difference in competative sports. Women should not have to lose against males in women only sports.
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NeonOctopus
06/09/18 7:16:13 PM
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If I transition into a female, can I go in the women's locker room and stare at titties no prob? >_>
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