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Antifar
06/06/18 10:44:30 AM
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https://wapo.st/2kTCxl6
A new United Nations report is getting plenty of national media attention for predicting President Trump will exacerbate hardships for America's poor by weakening the nation's safety net.

The policies pursued over the past year seem deliberately designed to remove basic protections from the poorest, punish those who are not in employment and make even basic health care into a privilege to be earned rather than a right of citizenship, says the report, which will be presented to the Human Rights Council of the U.N. General Assembly.

The U.N.'s attack on the White House has generated a flurry of articles, with several seizing on the claim that America will grow more destitute under Trump.

But while many experts do think Trump is making life harder for the poor, America's poverty rate has likely gone down not up since he took office because the economy as a whole continues to improve, according to poverty experts.

What is really striking about the report is how dire conditions were for America's poor even before Trump took office.

Among countries in the developed world, the report says, America already has the highest rates of youth poverty, infant mortality, incarceration, income inequality and obesity.

Americans live shorter and sicker lives compared to those living in all other rich democracies, the report says.

About 40 million Americans live in poverty, and 18.5 million live in extreme poverty. More than 5 million Americans live in Third World conditions of absolute poverty.

About 11 million Americans cycle through a jail or prison every year, with at least 730,000 people incarcerated on any given day, the report says.

In 2016, a shockingly high number of children were living in poverty about 13.3 million, or 18 percent of them the U.N. report states, with government spending on children near the bottom of the international pack.

These statistics largely could not reflect the policies of the Trump administration, since the best existing poverty data predates his inauguration, said the author of the report, Philip Alston, U.N. special rapporteur on extreme poverty and human rights, in an interview.

In his report, Alston blames the American political system for these failings, arguing it deprives African Americans of voting rights, unfairly sends the homeless to jail, and has failed to provided health care and housing programs for its citizens.

The persistence of extreme poverty is a political choice made by those in power, Alston writes. With political will, it could readily be eliminated.

Poverty experts say a range of policies enacted by Trump will make poverty both more painful and more prevalent than would have otherwise been the case but say those effects are unlikely to show up in higher overall poverty rates until after the next recession hits.

We just don't have data to really tell us what's going on yet during the Trump administration, and my guess is if it did it would show poverty falling again because of the economy, said H. Luke Shaefer, director of Poverty Solutions at the University of Michigan. But we have no reason to think the president is improving the situation, and a lot of reasons to think he'll exacerbate them.

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Bad_Mojo
06/06/18 10:45:39 AM
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TheUsualSuspect
06/06/18 10:45:57 AM
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Considering Trump supporters hate poor people despite living in trailer parks themselves, this is a good thing for them.
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Antifar
06/06/18 10:46:23 AM
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TheUsualSuspect posted...
Considering Trump supporters hate poor people despite living in trailer parks themselves, this is a good thing for them.

Trump supporters are overwhelmingly not poor.
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John_Galt
06/06/18 10:47:26 AM
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Antifar posted...
TheUsualSuspect posted...
Considering Trump supporters hate poor people despite living in trailer parks themselves, this is a good thing for them.

Trump supporters are overwhelmingly not poor.

Don't ruin his narrative
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Tmaster148
06/06/18 10:49:44 AM
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It'll be interesting to watch the economic collapse due to money flowing upwards and not coming back down.
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Pillowpantz
06/06/18 10:50:18 AM
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FightingGames
06/06/18 10:50:31 AM
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Balrog0
06/06/18 10:53:20 AM
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Antifar posted...
TheUsualSuspect posted...
Considering Trump supporters hate poor people despite living in trailer parks themselves, this is a good thing for them.

Trump supporters are overwhelmingly not poor.


no, they weren't, even though his supporters were relatively poor compared to previous GOP presidential candidates

the really big difference between 2012 and 2016 is that Clinton didn't manage to garner Obama-levels of support among the <50k group iirc
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prince_leo
06/06/18 10:54:03 AM
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kingdrake2
06/06/18 10:55:02 AM
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prince_leo posted...
all according to plan


ever since trump came into office, the safety net has always been decreasing.
gotta pay for the military somehow.
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John_Galt
06/06/18 10:56:32 AM
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kingdrake2 posted...
prince_leo posted...
all according to plan


ever since trump came into office, the safety net has always been decreasing.

Obama slashed billions from the food stamp program
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Foppe
06/06/18 10:57:15 AM
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It failed before any of us were born.
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kingdrake2
06/06/18 10:57:45 AM
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John_Galt posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
prince_leo posted...
all according to plan


ever since trump came into office, the safety net has always been decreasing.

Obama slashed billions from the food stamp program


it didn't effect things too much at that time or at least i would like to think that.
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voldothegr8
06/06/18 10:58:10 AM
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Antifar posted...
A new United Nations report

Stopped right there
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prince_leo
06/06/18 10:58:50 AM
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John_Galt posted...
Obama slashed billions from the food stamp program

it's not ok because previous presidents also did it
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Antifar
06/06/18 11:00:01 AM
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As the article notes: these figures are from 2016 and 2017; too early for this to be a reflection of Trump's policies, which are bad nonetheless.
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KILBOTz
06/06/18 11:02:53 AM
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Antifar posted...
About 11 million Americans cycle through a jail or prison every year, with at least 730,000 people incarcerated on any given day, the report says.


i always find it amazing how comparable the incarceration rates of the USSR and USA.
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The Great Muta 22
06/06/18 11:03:56 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Antifar posted...
A new United Nations report

Stopped right there


That seems stupid
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clearaflagrantj
06/06/18 11:04:01 AM
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Social Security is a Ponzi scheme that should be burned to the fucking ground.

Let Americans save their own money or spend it as they see fit.
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TheUsualSuspect
06/06/18 11:05:14 AM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Antifar posted...
A new United Nations report

Stopped right there


That seems stupid

voldothegr8 posted...

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Intro2Logic
06/06/18 11:07:04 AM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
Social Security is a Ponzi scheme that should be burned to the fucking ground.

Let Americans save their own money or spend it as they see fit.

Weren't you all in on Litecoin?
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clearaflagrantj
06/06/18 11:13:35 AM
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Intro2Logic posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
Social Security is a Ponzi scheme that should be burned to the fucking ground.

Let Americans save their own money or spend it as they see fit.

Weren't you all in on Litecoin?

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Please explain to me why you think litecoin is a ponzi scheme
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