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cjsdowg
06/02/18 2:38:19 PM
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When was America Great, and when did it stop being Great ?
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ThyCorndog
06/02/18 2:39:29 PM
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great: when we killed natives and conquered territory
not great: when we started letting in poor immigrants in the 50s or whatever
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ThyCorndog
06/02/18 2:39:59 PM
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oh sorry you meant trump supporters
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John_Galt
06/02/18 2:40:30 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
when did it stop being Great ?

1/20/09
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HypnoCoosh
06/02/18 2:51:13 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
John_Galt posted...
cjsdowg posted...
when did it stop being Great ?

1/20/09

Not surprised a leftist becoming president was a bad thing for you


FTFY
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TheVipaGTS
06/02/18 2:52:56 PM
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This is one thing they (and Trump) can never explain. So they admit that America wasn't Great at one point...but by their own logic if you ever think that and express it you should just "LEAVE"...I wonder why they didn't just take their own advice and leave, then...
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ScazarMeltex
06/02/18 2:53:21 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
John_Galt posted...
cjsdowg posted...
when did it stop being Great ?

1/20/09

Not surprised a leftist becoming president was a bad thing for you


FTFY

Its funny how you think Obama was the first leftist elected president

It's funny how you think Obama was a leftist.
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muchdran
06/02/18 2:54:32 PM
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Before Obama.
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metralo
06/02/18 2:58:27 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
John_Galt posted...
cjsdowg posted...
when did it stop being Great ?

1/20/09

Not surprised a leftist becoming president was a bad thing for you


FTFY

Its funny how you think Obama was the first leftist elected president

It's funny how you think Obama was a leftist.


to people in America he is.

anyways, the answer to TCs question, i'll speak for every single trump supporter here, america was great before it was led by a black person that they hate so much.
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frozenshock
06/02/18 3:00:44 PM
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Great: every time a republican president was in power
Not great: every time a democratic president was in power
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Cosmic_Diabetic
06/02/18 3:08:32 PM
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frozenshock posted...
Great: every time a republican president was in power
Not great: every time a democratic president was in power


Was America great during the Herbert Hoover years?
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Ibrahim529
06/02/18 3:10:16 PM
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i believe in G-d and senator dodd and keeping old castro down
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edededdy
06/02/18 3:10:40 PM
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not a trump supporter but America isnt perfect. shitty political landscape with politicians passing laws no one wants, no one can be work together and compromise, healthcare is a fucking mess, kids getting killed left and right, mental health being shoved to the side, shitting on our friends and allies

America is a fine place but youd be fooling yourself to consider it great in the current political climate
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TheVipaGTS
06/02/18 4:52:10 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
This is one thing they (and Trump) can never explain. So they admit that America wasn't Great at one point...but by their own logic if you ever think that and express it you should just "LEAVE"...I wonder why they didn't just take their own advice and leave, then...

Still waiting for an answer on this too. If you ever thought it wasnt great why didnt you just leave like you tell so many others?
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yusiko
06/02/18 4:53:13 PM
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its different for each trump supporter

for some of them it was back when they could murder a gay man and claim they were afraid he was going to make a pass at them thus getting light sentencing

for others it was the time before women could vote and were treated as a mans property

and of course their is always the classic being able to own another human being who is darker than you to work for free at risk of being whipped if they refused
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frozenshock
06/02/18 4:56:40 PM
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Maybe this is a hint?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8_niqRrrtg" data-time="

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BigSLM1993
06/02/18 4:58:57 PM
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I think an add-on would also be, when was it great, and WHO was it great for?

As a Gay Black man, I wouldn't go very far back in time for when I'd say America rules. TBH now is one of the freer / best times for opportunities for someone in my position.
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
06/02/18 5:04:23 PM
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When we lead the world with might and innovation. Stopped being great when we started to let other countries dictate where we stand on the international stage, continued to decline when our trade agreements with other countries paved the way for our industries to be taken outside of our borders, got worse when we got a President who decided his best foreign policy would be to apologize for America being better than everyone in the past and promise that we will no longer seek to outperform and instead merely exist alongside everyone else.
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CarlGrimes
06/02/18 5:09:25 PM
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Cosmic_Diabetic posted...
Was America great during the Herbert Hoover years?

Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.
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Damn_Underscore
06/02/18 5:10:59 PM
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economically probably after WWII to before Vietnam

Socially I'd say 50s - early 2000s or so
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metralo
06/02/18 5:12:53 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
economically probably after WWII to before Vietnam

Socially I'd say 50s - early 2000s or so


so why does your party spend 4-8 years every rotation completely thrashing the economy if the economy was what made it great
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TheVipaGTS
06/02/18 5:12:59 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Socially I'd say 50s - early 2000s or so

wtf, care to be a bit more specific?
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Damn_Underscore
06/02/18 5:13:39 PM
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BTW this is a total trick question

No one wants an actual answer, they just want to accuse people of bigotry.
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TheVipaGTS
06/02/18 5:14:24 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
BTW this is a total trick question

No one wants an actual answer, they just want to accuse people of bigotry.

then prove them wrong and give a real answer.
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Damn_Underscore
06/02/18 5:18:18 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
BTW this is a total trick question

No one wants an actual answer, they just want to accuse people of bigotry.

then prove them wrong and give a real answer.


I did give a real answer

From 50s-00s we had a lot of advancements in entertainment and laws/other events that made the US a better place to live for everyone.
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A_Good_Boy
06/02/18 5:20:22 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
BTW this is a total trick question

No one wants an actual answer, they just want to accuse people of bigotry.

then prove them wrong and give a real answer.


I did give a real answer

From 50s-00s we had a lot of advancements in entertainment and laws/other events that made the US a better place to live for everyone.

Care to be more specific?
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EverDownward
06/02/18 5:24:11 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
When was America Great

1776

cjsdowg posted...
when did it stop being Great

1777
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Damn_Underscore
06/02/18 5:35:52 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
BTW this is a total trick question

No one wants an actual answer, they just want to accuse people of bigotry.

then prove them wrong and give a real answer.


I did give a real answer

From 50s-00s we had a lot of advancements in entertainment and laws/other events that made the US a better place to live for everyone.

Care to be more specific?


How? That's 5+ decades of social greatness. You can't replicate social greatness though so it doesn't really matter.
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Damn_Underscore
06/02/18 6:08:26 PM
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Let's not look at when America was great. Let's instead look at when America became not great.

In the last decade or so, American society has become so partisan. Everything nowadays is political. There is so much hate in America today. That's why that message resonated during the 2016 election. Donald Trump probably isn't the best person to say this message, but it is still true. There is an economic factor as well, since America has fallen behind in many industries in the last several decades and the country is in so much debt.
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TheVipaGTS
06/02/18 6:09:48 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Let's not look at when America was great.

no lets stick to the topic. give specific examples of what you consider great.
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Damn_Underscore
06/02/18 6:14:41 PM
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You won't take an estimate, you won't take an explanation of the estimate, you won't take a fully economic explanation, and you won't take an explanation of why people liked the message.

You are just trying to trick people.
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TheVipaGTS
06/02/18 6:19:18 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
You won't take an estimate, you won't take an explanation of the estimate, you won't take a fully economic explanation, and you won't take an explanation of why people liked the message.

You are just trying to trick people.

give a specific example.
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FrostySuit
06/02/18 6:21:14 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
When was America Great, and when did it stop being Great ?


I'm a semi-Trump supporter (conservative who likes good things he does but he is more of a populist than a true conservative) and I disagree with Trump's entire premise that America ever stopped being great. The ideals, not the men, but the ideals America were founded on have always pushed us forward through all the mistakes and struggles we have faced. The men who helped found and then have led our country throughout history are flawed but the ideals of individual liberty and freedom are pure and always shone through at the end of the day. Even our most tragic mistakes were corrected and now are historically significant to learn from because of the ideals that have been there from the start. As long as they exist we will never stop being great.
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yusiko
06/02/18 6:24:44 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
You won't take an estimate, you won't take an explanation of the estimate, you won't take a fully economic explanation, and you won't take an explanation of why people liked the message.

You are just trying to trick people.


No one is trying to trick people
You just gave a vague time period between segregation and the time when gay people were treated as second class citizens and refuse to clarify why you find these time periods better
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TheRealDill2000
06/02/18 6:31:09 PM
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BigSLM1993 posted...
I think an add-on would also be, when was it great, and WHO was it great for?

As a Gay Black man, I wouldn't go very far back in time for when I'd say America rules. TBH now is one of the freer / best times for opportunities for someone in my position.

We can all thank the_Donald for that. Stories like yours are proof that he is helping to make America great again.
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Damn_Underscore
06/02/18 6:34:30 PM
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No one sat down and made a formal decision when America "was great" and "wasn't great". It's all about estimations.

The reason I think those times are great is mainly because of the entertainment and technology advances that happened during those times, although legislation like the Civil Rights Act definitely helped. America was founded on individual liberty and freedom, as said above, and more of that will always improve the country.

Why does my estimate stop before the internet got big? The internet is like a double-edged sword. It has obviously helped society in a lot of ways but it has hurt society in a lot of ways too. The internet is a big contributor to the partisan society we have today.
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Pillowpantz
06/03/18 12:47:52 PM
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Honest question for TC:

If America was already great, when was it as great for Asian-Americans as it was for African-Americans?
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cjsdowg
06/03/18 6:21:57 PM
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Pillowpantz posted...


If America was already great, when was it as great for Asian-Americans as it was for African-Americans?


America has never been great for African-Americans.
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TheRealDill2000
06/03/18 6:23:52 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Pillowpantz posted...


If America was already great, when was it as great for Asian-Americans as it was for African-Americans?


America has never been great for African-Americans.

It's getting better. Have you seen the recent unemployment numbers?
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Pillowpantz
06/03/18 6:24:30 PM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Pillowpantz posted...


If America was already great, when was it as great for Asian-Americans as it was for African-Americans?


America has never been great for African-Americans.

It's getting better. Have you seen the recent unemployment numbers?


Not to mention the NBA, NFL, Hollywood, BET, the music industry, etc.
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cjsdowg
06/03/18 6:25:57 PM
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Pillowpantz posted...

Not to mention the NBA, NFL, Hollywood, BET, the music industry, etc.


The percentage of people in any of those things are tiny. Moreover the NFL get attacked my our setting president more then Nazis . And people are trying to make them stand for a racist song. So yeah that really helps to prove my point .
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