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Esrac
05/29/18 9:26:42 PM
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I'm looking to enlist in the Navy and today was my first day at MEPS. Took the ASVAB and tomorrow is the physical exams. Then, if all goes well, I guess I'd select a rating.

I scored a 93 on the ASVAB, so I know I have a lot of options. But I don't really know what I want to do yet.

Anyone got any related advice or suggestions?
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prince_leo
05/29/18 9:28:06 PM
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you should try to be an air traffic controller
i'm a civilian one and the military directly takes you into becoming one once you get out, which is in itself a 6 digit job with a pension and gov't benefits
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wackyteen
05/29/18 9:29:21 PM
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I scored an 87 on the ASVAB, went Army and chose to be a Truck Driver.

Make smarter decisions than me.
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Hexenherz
05/29/18 9:30:21 PM
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Do not go Nuke - the advancement potential is amazing, and enlistment/reenlistment bonuses are through the roof, but quality of life is terrible since you're always on board (someone's gotta stay and make sure the reactor doesn't overload and is ready to go for when the ship / sub has to leave).

Any Cryptologic Technician (CT) rating is gonna be great, especially CTR (Collections), CTN (Networking) or CTI ("Interpreter" even though the vast majority aren't actual interpreters). IS (Intelligence Specialist) also has some really cool opportunities. All of these will get you really good training, very valuable experience, professional networking opportunities and a clearance which goes so friggin' far if you want to eventually work as a contractor or federal civilian.
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Hexenherz
05/29/18 9:32:02 PM
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Also, what are your interests? There are jobs for basically everything in all branches, but not in every branch (for instance, there are no "tank crew" jobs in the Navy or Air Force). It would also be good to know what you're interested in, can *maybe* give some insight.
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Esrac
05/29/18 10:06:32 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Also, what are your interests? There are jobs for basically everything in all branches, but not in every branch (for instance, there are no "tank crew" jobs in the Navy or Air Force). It would also be good to know what you're interested in, can *maybe* give some insight.


I was actually already a bit interested in Crytological Tech and Intelligence. But also interested in Military Police/Master at Arms, Electronics, Medical, etc. I try to be flexible.
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Orthopox12
05/29/18 10:11:19 PM
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I was in the Marines, that alone should dissuade you from taking any advice from me. But best I got is do something transferable when you get out. Pick up as many skills as you can.
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Hexenherz
05/29/18 10:21:21 PM
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Esrac posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Also, what are your interests? There are jobs for basically everything in all branches, but not in every branch (for instance, there are no "tank crew" jobs in the Navy or Air Force). It would also be good to know what you're interested in, can *maybe* give some insight.


I was actually already a bit interested in Crytological Tech and Intelligence. But also interested in Military Police/Master at Arms, Electronics, Medical, etc. I try to be flexible.


"I try to be flexible" -> Do not be flexible, with a 96 ASVAB score you can literally get any technical job you want.

MA and HM are going to be worthwhile if you specifically want to work on a police force or do routine nursing/medical records administration tasks at clinics/hospitals when you get out.

CT, IS and even IT can get you a lot more "bang for your buck", so to speak, though. The promotion opportunities are going to be much higher on average, and post-service employment opportunities will be more lucrative by default (excluding any educational goals you accomplish when you're in).

Also keep in mind that you do get college credits in your career field, so if you want to work with computers when you get out, but you go MA, you're gonna have credits dealing mostly with criminal justice and administration, which means you have more catch up to do to get a computer-related degree.

I'm not saying you're gonna get a million credits, but I mean it can be the matter of several classes.

Especially never go undesignated, no matter what you choose.
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XXHornDogXX
05/29/18 10:33:48 PM
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Your job matters and is important in the military, regardless of the nonsense that "every marine is a rifleman" or whatever each branch's equivalent motto is. With that said, just pick something that'll make you happy and enjoy. No matter what the reasons for it are. Don't worry too much about your job transitioning to life outside of the military. Military service as a whole will give you a leg up on the competition and the GI Bill will pay you good money to pursue a degree or civilian certifications/skills, you'd be dumb not to use it.

If you're 100% about the Navy, you need to narrow down your job search. Do you want a tech job, go in the medical field, build stuff (construction), handle weapons, maintain ships or aircrafts, etc.. Start with thinking about your exact reasons for picking the Navy specifically and go from there.
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Hexenherz
05/29/18 10:39:03 PM
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@XXHornDogXX

I am sorry if my posts come off like that. I certainly don't mean it like that. I'm just saying TC has opportunities that not everyone has, but I agree it boils down to what they ultimately want.
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XXHornDogXX
05/29/18 10:50:00 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
@XXHornDogXX

I am sorry if my posts come off like that. I certainly don't mean it like that. I'm just saying TC has opportunities that not everyone has, but I agree it boils down to what they ultimately want.

I wasn't directing it at you or anything lol. All I'm saying is, I enlisted in the Marine Corps growing up always wanting to do everything you would expect a Marine does. Yet, last min i went with a tech job in the Corps because it provides more skills for when i get out while "Every Marine is a Rifleman" . 5 years later, while I love being in the Corps, I deeply wish I went was in the 03 field, doing grunt shit like I've dreamt of as a kid. Im not blaming anyone, this is all my own fault. But I've fall into the lore of picking something that could potentially better my future over my own happiness and dreams.

Were all different, and its ok and encouraged to ask for suggestions and questions about military life. But ultimately just sign for the right reasons and go with your heart.
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lilJoe457
05/29/18 10:51:21 PM
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Have fun fighting for Israel.
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Hexenherz
05/29/18 10:52:42 PM
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I had a sort of similar but opposite sense of development. I used to think that I wanted to be infantry in the Army. Went Navy, saw how many people were screwing up their bodies with these deployments, haven't regretted it since (especially since I have a smaller frame >_>).

My roommate was an FMF corpsman, his back was totally destroyed, there were days where the pain was so bad he'd be crawling up the stairs because he couldn't walk. I couldn't do that.
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-Unowninator-
05/29/18 10:53:59 PM
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I believe @RaptorLC was part of the army.
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Atralis
05/29/18 10:55:28 PM
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Go intelligence and avoid nuclear would be my advice. By Nuclear I mean the guys that man the power plants on our carriers and submarines. I've heard that is a really rough job. I was Army Intel (35N) and it was alright.
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Esrac
05/29/18 10:55:30 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Esrac posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Also, what are your interests? There are jobs for basically everything in all branches, but not in every branch (for instance, there are no "tank crew" jobs in the Navy or Air Force). It would also be good to know what you're interested in, can *maybe* give some insight.


I was actually already a bit interested in Crytological Tech and Intelligence. But also interested in Military Police/Master at Arms, Electronics, Medical, etc. I try to be flexible.


"I try to be flexible" -> Do not be flexible, with a 96 ASVAB score you can literally get any technical job you want.

MA and HM are going to be worthwhile if you specifically want to work on a police force or do routine nursing/medical records administration tasks at clinics/hospitals when you get out.

CT, IS and even IT can get you a lot more "bang for your buck", so to speak, though. The promotion opportunities are going to be much higher on average, and post-service employment opportunities will be more lucrative by default (excluding any educational goals you accomplish when you're in).

Also keep in mind that you do get college credits in your career field, so if you want to work with computers when you get out, but you go MA, you're gonna have credits dealing mostly with criminal justice and administration, which means you have more catch up to do to get a computer-related degree.

I'm not saying you're gonna get a million credits, but I mean it can be the matter of several classes.

Especially never go undesignated, no matter what you choose.


Yeah. I'd heard not to go undesignated. Seems like it would be a waste of a high asvab score.
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Esrac
05/29/18 10:57:06 PM
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Atralis posted...
Go intel avoid nuclear would be my advice.


Reading job descriptions, I do like the sound of intelligence, information systems, and cryptologic tech.

People keep saying avoid nuke though.
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Hexenherz
05/29/18 10:59:22 PM
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"IT" itself isn't super glamorous, you're literally doing basic tech support like connecting printers to networks and helping people unlock their computer accounts and adding e-mail addresses to distribution aliases. But they do get good training and that's obviously valuable experience in many companies these days. It's one of those jobs where the longer you stay in, the more you get out of it.

Anyway.
Alright well I gotta take off, feel free to ask whatever questions you want I'll certainly help answer what I can.
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XXHornDogXX
05/29/18 10:59:35 PM
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Ask your recruiter what jobs are offering enlistment bonuses and go from there
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Atralis
05/29/18 11:01:04 PM
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Esrac posted...


"I try to be flexible" -> Do not be flexible, with a 96 ASVAB score you can literally get any technical job you want.


This. They may say "we don't have spaces open for that right now" at MEPs and your response should be "I can wait until there are spaces open".
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Sariana21
05/29/18 11:36:04 PM
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I'm assuming you don't have a college degree, in which case sign up for the GI bill. Just do it, and go to school when your enlistment is up (or you retire).

If you do have a college degree, don't enlist. Go through Officer Candidate School and get a commission.

Good choice in the Navy, BTW. My husband is a captain (colonel in Marines or Army) in the Navy Reserve. I would direct your questions to him, but he, uh, doesn't know I visit this site.

You mentioned medical on your list. That could be a really good option with great post-service opportunities.
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Esrac
05/30/18 5:57:59 AM
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Sariana21 posted...
I'm assuming you don't have a college degree, in which case sign up for the GI bill. Just do it, and go to school when your enlistment is up (or you retire).

If you do have a college degree, don't enlist. Go through Officer Candidate School and get a commission.

Good choice in the Navy, BTW. My husband is a captain (colonel in Marines or Army) in the Navy Reserve. I would direct your questions to him, but he, uh, doesn't know I visit this site.

You mentioned medical on your list. That could be a really good option with great post-service opportunities.


Yeah, thanks.

Right now, I'm leaning toward cryptologic tech, intelligence, or IT.

What does your husband do, if I may ask?
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darkprince45
05/30/18 6:05:57 AM
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pick an mos that will translate to a civilian job!!! You will be scared during bootcamp, then love the military, then you will either be like wow the military is quite dumb fuck this. Or you'll become a lifer which is dumb and sucks balls

If you want to be an MP do it. I was an MP. But only do if you want to do law enforcement. You'll get a lot of credits in college towards a criminal justice degree. Being an MP got me good points when I applied for my civilian police department a year ago

Take everything you can from the military and dont feel bad for it. They'll take everything from you and let you on your on way

And besides seals, navy is kinda lame
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wackyteen
05/30/18 6:40:57 AM
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darkprince45 posted...
then love the military, then you will either be like wow the military is quite dumb f*** this. Or you'll become a lifer which is dumb and sucks balls

The military is quite dumb.

But being a lifer is no more dumb than being stuck at a shitty corporate job for 30 years that would cut you in a heartbeat without even so much as a severance check if they could.
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Sariana21
05/30/18 9:28:20 AM
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Esrac posted...
Sariana21 posted...
I'm assuming you don't have a college degree, in which case sign up for the GI bill. Just do it, and go to school when your enlistment is up (or you retire).

If you do have a college degree, don't enlist. Go through Officer Candidate School and get a commission.

Good choice in the Navy, BTW. My husband is a captain (colonel in Marines or Army) in the Navy Reserve. I would direct your questions to him, but he, uh, doesn't know I visit this site.

You mentioned medical on your list. That could be a really good option with great post-service opportunities.


Yeah, thanks.

Right now, I'm leaning toward cryptologic tech, intelligence, or IT.

What does your husband do, if I may ask?

I can't really say because it's a pretty specific position, and sharing would risk my anonymity. When he started almost 25 years ago, he was a submarine officer. But you already said you weren't interested in nuclear power, so I didn't mention that above.
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Esrac
05/30/18 3:39:09 PM
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Sariana21 posted...
Esrac posted...
Sariana21 posted...
I'm assuming you don't have a college degree, in which case sign up for the GI bill. Just do it, and go to school when your enlistment is up (or you retire).

If you do have a college degree, don't enlist. Go through Officer Candidate School and get a commission.

Good choice in the Navy, BTW. My husband is a captain (colonel in Marines or Army) in the Navy Reserve. I would direct your questions to him, but he, uh, doesn't know I visit this site.

You mentioned medical on your list. That could be a really good option with great post-service opportunities.


Yeah, thanks.

Right now, I'm leaning toward cryptologic tech, intelligence, or IT.

What does your husband do, if I may ask?

I can't really say because it's a pretty specific position, and sharing would risk my anonymity. When he started almost 25 years ago, he was a submarine officer. But you already said you weren't interested in nuclear power, so I didn't mention that above.


Understood. Thank you.
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Hexenherz
05/30/18 4:47:45 PM
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Sariana21 posted...
I'm assuming you don't have a college degree, in which case sign up for the GI bill. Just do it, and go to school when your enlistment is up (or you retire).


There are two GI Bills now. Arguably Post-9/11 is better than Montgomery GI Bill in most respects, especially since you can transfer benefits to dependents if you aren't going to use them, you get a monthly housing allowance, you don't have to pay $1,200 into it, etc.

You will certainly want to do research on that before you choose, since you can't switch back and forth between them. But at the very least, you are automatically eligible for Post-9/11 once you reach the minimum service requirement since there's no buy-in.

ALSO... there's Tuition Assistance and CLEPS/DANTES while you're on active duty so you should *not* be tapping in to your GI Bill while on duty any way.
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PrettyBoyFloyd
05/30/18 4:51:21 PM
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Then work for the CIA and get paid to assassinate people.
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Esrac
05/30/18 6:26:28 PM
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So, I finished everything today. Physical took forever.

Being held over night because I declined the two positions they offered me.

Undesigated and Submarine Electronic Computers Field.

Said I can come back in tomorrow to see what my options are.

My recruiter chief is pushing me to take the SECF position now and he can put in a DAR to get me a different rating when it becomes available. I am skeptical.

Electronics is actually something I would have jumped on if it wasn't on a submarine. If it were on, say, an aircraft carrier I would have taken it. Don't really want to work on a submarine though. Maybe if they up the sign on bonus. $10,000 wasn't enough.

I thought a 93 on the asvab would get me more options, but they tried to tell me those are the only options in my range.
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FlyingForever
05/30/18 6:27:32 PM
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Enjoy being a pawn
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Hexenherz
05/30/18 6:35:40 PM
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Esrac posted...
So, I finished everything today. Physical took forever.

Being held over night because I declined the two positions they offered me.

Undesigated and Submarine Electronic Computers Field.

Said I can come back in tomorrow to see what my options are.

My recruiter chief is pushing me to take the SECF position now and he can put in a DAR to get me a different rating when it becomes available. I am skeptical.

Electronics is actually something I would have jumped on if it wasn't on a submarine. If it were on, say, an aircraft carrier I would have taken it. Don't really want to work on a submarine though. Maybe if they up the sign on bonus. $10,000 wasn't enough.

I thought a 93 on the asvab would get me more options, but they tried to tell me those are the only options in my range.

That legitimately makes zero sense, there should definitely be ATF jobs available (like CTI, CTN, etc.)... Those are always in demand.

Bear in mind that regardless of rating you don't have much say in whether or not you'll go on submarines. You aren't necessarily guaranteed to serve on submarines if you don't choose one of the sub ratings (STS, MT, MMN, etc.), but you also can't exclude that possibility.

I'm also not ashamed to suggest that maybe you see what the Air Force has to offer?
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Hexenherz
05/30/18 6:38:14 PM
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Sorry for double post, but beginning of Fiscal Year (October 1) is also when everything tends to reset, so if you are absolutely set on going Navy but they "don't have the job available" (I am curious to know what you asked for specifically), you might want to wait.
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Cosmic_Diabetic
05/30/18 6:40:07 PM
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Be a badass and go NAVY EOD
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Esrac
05/30/18 6:41:26 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Sorry for double post, but beginning of Fiscal Year (October 1) is also when everything tends to reset, so if you are absolutely set on going Navy but they "don't have the job available" (I am curious to know what you asked for specifically), you might want to wait.


I told them my main interested were cryptological tech, intelligence, and information tech. But I don't mind electronics either. They tried to tell me there were no other options, but if I take this I can change it later.

I figured a field that wasn't specifically geared toward submarines would at least give me a better chance of not being on a sub. But if it can't be helped, I can make due.
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Hexenherz
05/30/18 6:49:59 PM
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I mean, there are like a half dozen different CT ratings, it doesn't make sense that NONE are available.

but if I take this I can change it later. - Yeah, don't do that unless you're specifically going for a job that requires a special qualification test (like the DLAB for linguists).

Otherwise... technically they can change a contract but it complicates your paperwork and that can make getting any guaranteed benefits trickier to obtain (not common, but I have seen it happen a couple of times). And obviously there's no guarantee that they will let you switch.
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Esrac
05/30/18 7:12:54 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
I mean, there are like a half dozen different CT ratings, it doesn't make sense that NONE are available.

but if I take this I can change it later. - Yeah, don't do that unless you're specifically going for a job that requires a special qualification test (like the DLAB for linguists).

Otherwise... technically they can change a contract but it complicates your paperwork and that can make getting any guaranteed benefits trickier to obtain (not common, but I have seen it happen a couple of times). And obviously there's no guarantee that they will let you switch.


Yeah. I figured my score would give me more than just two options. PACT or SECF.

I'm going back up there tomorrow, so I guess we will see if they have any other options. I just got a call from a Petty Officer suggesting I take the PACT Seaman rating and then use it to get into another, more technical rating later.
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Esrac
05/30/18 7:14:28 PM
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Oh, they did offer me a $10,000 sign on bonus for the SECF position.

I can't help thinking I should ask for more.
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Hexenherz
05/30/18 7:25:07 PM
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Esrac posted...
Hexenherz posted...
I mean, there are like a half dozen different CT ratings, it doesn't make sense that NONE are available.

but if I take this I can change it later. - Yeah, don't do that unless you're specifically going for a job that requires a special qualification test (like the DLAB for linguists).

Otherwise... technically they can change a contract but it complicates your paperwork and that can make getting any guaranteed benefits trickier to obtain (not common, but I have seen it happen a couple of times). And obviously there's no guarantee that they will let you switch.


Yeah. I figured my score would give me more than just two options. PACT or SECF.

I'm going back up there tomorrow, so I guess we will see if they have any other options. I just got a call from a Petty Officer suggesting I take the PACT Seaman rating and then use it to get into another, more technical rating later.


No, don't do this. You're better off waiting a few months and getting exactly what you want instead of going in as PACT and then *maybe* getting what you want several years down the road.

Enlistment bonuses are driven by Navy-wide guidance, so you can *try* to negotiate but you're kinda limited to what they offer you honestly. What you negotiate in the contract are things like ... having a bonus to begin with (not the amount), student debt loan repayment program, possibly a C school guarantee.
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Hexenherz
05/30/18 7:26:14 PM
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Or go to the Air Force recruiter >_>
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Esrac
05/30/18 7:39:32 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Esrac posted...
Hexenherz posted...
I mean, there are like a half dozen different CT ratings, it doesn't make sense that NONE are available.

but if I take this I can change it later. - Yeah, don't do that unless you're specifically going for a job that requires a special qualification test (like the DLAB for linguists).

Otherwise... technically they can change a contract but it complicates your paperwork and that can make getting any guaranteed benefits trickier to obtain (not common, but I have seen it happen a couple of times). And obviously there's no guarantee that they will let you switch.


Yeah. I figured my score would give me more than just two options. PACT or SECF.

I'm going back up there tomorrow, so I guess we will see if they have any other options. I just got a call from a Petty Officer suggesting I take the PACT Seaman rating and then use it to get into another, more technical rating later.


No, don't do this. You're better off waiting a few months and getting exactly what you want instead of going in as PACT and then *maybe* getting what you want several years down the road.

Enlistment bonuses are driven by Navy-wide guidance, so you can *try* to negotiate but you're kinda limited to what they offer you honestly. What you negotiate in the contract are things like ... having a bonus to begin with (not the amount), student debt loan repayment program, possibly a C school guarantee.


Yeah. All I've ever heard online about that was do NOT go undesignated. The recruiter who called me was trying to sell me that position by telling me about how she started as undesignated and used it to get into avian tech.

I do want something more technical than a glorified deckhand though.

I am still new to this. Can you offer any advice specifically on what to look for or ask for in the contract?
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Zeeak4444
05/30/18 7:44:44 PM
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Good luck to you. I'm hopefully going in as well if I can pass a vision consult. I've used marijuana in a recreational manner too so while I've been clean for a while and have no intention of using again we'll see if that causes any issues for me.

Hopefully we'll both be doing good shit in the near future for the service.
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Hexenherz
05/30/18 7:47:00 PM
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Well it's pretty straightforward, you just need to make sure you get the job you want in there.

If the job you want is on the Advanced Technical Field (ATF), Advanced Electronics Field (AEF) or Nuclear Field (NF) rating list - http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/reference/milpersman/1000/1500Training/Documents/1510-030.pdf - then make sure your contract specifies that.

You'll also probably be entitled to a bonus for jobs on that list, but you don't get to negotiate the amount - that's based off a calculation that factors in how "in demand" a job is, how long you're enlisting for, and what the limit is on bonuses for that rating.

Also the bonus *is* taxed, so keep that in mind >_>.

If you have any outstanding student debt and you want the Navy to pay it off, you can try to get that in there but that will impact what kind of a bonus you get IIRC.
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XXHornDogXX
05/30/18 9:32:50 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Good luck to you. I'm hopefully going in as well if I can pass a vision consult. I've used marijuana in a recreational manner too so while I've been clean for a while and have no intention of using again we'll see if that causes any issues for me.

Hopefully we'll both be doing good shit in the near future for the service.

If you haven't told your recruiter yet already, you've never smoked weed in your entire life. Even if you told him and its not on paperwork, I'm sure he's willing to "work" with you. Although marijuana waivers are common and always get approved, its easier and better if you say that you've never smoked in your life. Just save yourself the extra hassle.

In the recruiting game, you are your own worst enemy. MEPS will never know anything you don't tell them. They'll never know your medical history because of HIPPA privacy laws and they'll never know of drugs you've done if you don't pop on a test.
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Hexenherz
05/30/18 9:33:57 PM
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XXHornDogXX posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Good luck to you. I'm hopefully going in as well if I can pass a vision consult. I've used marijuana in a recreational manner too so while I've been clean for a while and have no intention of using again we'll see if that causes any issues for me.

Hopefully we'll both be doing good shit in the near future for the service.

If you haven't told your recruiter yet already, you've never smoked weed in your entire life. Even if you told him and its not on paperwork, I'm sure he's willing to "work" with you. Although marijuana waivers are common and always get approved, its easier and better if you say that you've never smoked in your life. Just save yourself the extra hassle.

In the recruiting game, you are your own worst enemy. MEPS will never know anything you don't tell them. They'll never know your medical history because of HIPPA privacy laws and they'll never know of drugs you've done if you don't pop on a test.


If you're trying to get a job with a security clearance, then you will be honest about what you've done with illicit drug usage in the past and you will get a waiver.
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darkprince45
05/30/18 9:37:03 PM
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Whatever you do. DO NOT agree to a job/mos until it's the one you truly want. Even if it's some shitty bonus that will take 8 years to pay out.

Unless the job can lead to some crazy shit. I turned some super secret clearance linguistic job for MP because I was so adamant. It wasn't years later that I found out they worked with the CIA and do some high speed stuff
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Esrac
05/30/18 10:58:31 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
XXHornDogXX posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Good luck to you. I'm hopefully going in as well if I can pass a vision consult. I've used marijuana in a recreational manner too so while I've been clean for a while and have no intention of using again we'll see if that causes any issues for me.

Hopefully we'll both be doing good shit in the near future for the service.

If you haven't told your recruiter yet already, you've never smoked weed in your entire life. Even if you told him and its not on paperwork, I'm sure he's willing to "work" with you. Although marijuana waivers are common and always get approved, its easier and better if you say that you've never smoked in your life. Just save yourself the extra hassle.

In the recruiting game, you are your own worst enemy. MEPS will never know anything you don't tell them. They'll never know your medical history because of HIPPA privacy laws and they'll never know of drugs you've done if you don't pop on a test.


If you're trying to get a job with a security clearance, then you will be honest about what you've done with illicit drug usage in the past and you will get a waiver.


Hmm.

I have a few traffic violations, but no arrests, in my history. I think I appeared in court once for one of them over ten years ago. My recruiter just told me to tell MEPS that I had nothing like that at all and that the Navy doesn't care about traffic violations as long as the tickets are paid, I have no warrants, o arrests, etc.
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Esrac
05/31/18 4:15:33 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Esrac posted...
Hexenherz posted...
I mean, there are like a half dozen different CT ratings, it doesn't make sense that NONE are available.

but if I take this I can change it later. - Yeah, don't do that unless you're specifically going for a job that requires a special qualification test (like the DLAB for linguists).

Otherwise... technically they can change a contract but it complicates your paperwork and that can make getting any guaranteed benefits trickier to obtain (not common, but I have seen it happen a couple of times). And obviously there's no guarantee that they will let you switch.


Yeah. I figured my score would give me more than just two options. PACT or SECF.

I'm going back up there tomorrow, so I guess we will see if they have any other options. I just got a call from a Petty Officer suggesting I take the PACT Seaman rating and then use it to get into another, more technical rating later.


No, don't do this. You're better off waiting a few months and getting exactly what you want instead of going in as PACT and then *maybe* getting what you want several years down the road.

Enlistment bonuses are driven by Navy-wide guidance, so you can *try* to negotiate but you're kinda limited to what they offer you honestly. What you negotiate in the contract are things like ... having a bonus to begin with (not the amount), student debt loan repayment program, possibly a C school guarantee.


Okay. So, today, they actually offered me one of my top 3 choices (CT, IS, or IT). They offered me IT, but they firmly stated there were no sign on bonuses associated with it. I accepted, even without a bonus, because it is one of my top picks.

The $10,000 bonus for SECF didn't sound worth it to live in a metal tube, under the ocean, sharing racks with over a hundred other smelly dudes for months at a time.

Now it's just waiting until my ship out date.
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Hexenherz
05/31/18 5:46:46 PM
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Eh like I said, IT is good but it's not a really glamorous job compared to what CT or IS offers in my opinion. Well anyway it offers some pretty cool opportunities (most jobs do) so I hope you enjoy it! If you need any other advice or info feel free to reach out.
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Esrac
05/31/18 6:18:18 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Eh like I said, IT is good but it's not a really glamorous job compared to what CT or IS offers in my opinion. Well anyway it offers some pretty cool opportunities (most jobs do) so I hope you enjoy it! If you need any other advice or info feel free to reach out.


Well, my recruiter says I can still take the DLAB before I ship out and if I score well enough, I could go for CTI. I think maybe, but it requires the ability to be deployed world wide and I was looking to take advantage of the EFMP for my daughter. She has autism and goes to ABA therapy 5 days a week. I don't know that naval bases abroad would have access to that.
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Hexenherz
05/31/18 6:22:33 PM
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Esrac posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Eh like I said, IT is good but it's not a really glamorous job compared to what CT or IS offers in my opinion. Well anyway it offers some pretty cool opportunities (most jobs do) so I hope you enjoy it! If you need any other advice or info feel free to reach out.


Well, my recruiter says I can still take the DLAB before I ship out and if I score well enough, I could go for CTI. I think maybe, but it requires the ability to be deployed world wide and I was looking to take advantage of the EFMP for my daughter. She has autism and goes to ABA therapy 5 days a week. I don't know that naval bases abroad would have access to that.


1 - All jobs require you to deploy worldwide. EDIT: I shouldn't say require you to deploy, just require that you are deployable - there is no guarantee you will deploy.
2 - EFMP only affects where you are stationed, it has nothing to do with your deployability.
3 - CTIs are most often stationed CONUS.

You will legitimately most likely spend more time underway as an IT than if you went CTI or CTN.
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