Current Events > People give David Cage shit but he does a good job with those intense scenes

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- Waking up from a blackout and discovering you've just murdered a guy in a diner bathroom. What do you do?
- Would you cut off a finger to save your son? What will you use to cut it off if so?
- You're trapped in a psycho killers house. How will you escape?

All of these scenes are incredibly good with player choice and making the player feel the tension. The problem with Cage is the stuff between those scenes and how they link together usually fall apart and he talks crap about emoshuns and art despite those things being the worst aspects of his games. He's good at writing bonkers scenarios that ask the player to solve or escape from.

He'd probably do a much better job at making an anthology game that have several distinct scenario episodes that are 1-2 hours long tbh. The Heavy Rain DLC could have been this but it got cancelled for crappy Move support.
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He basically builds entire games and their story around a single and intense jump the shark moment, placed at such a point that you're already invested and have to see it through to the end no matter how many fleets of sharks it just jumped.

But yeah, I generally agree with what you're saying. It's just easy to focus on the bad I guess.
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Omikron was his best game and Detroit follows in a close second.
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remember that time in beyond two souls where you can attempt suicide with literally no context on how you got there or why you would do it
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People hate on him a lot but I've mostly enjoyed what I've played of his. Beyond not so much but I just rented it so I didn't mind too much.

I'm quite a bit into Detroit and liking it so far.

Freddie_Mercury posted...

remember that time in beyond two souls where you can attempt suicide with literally no context on how you got there or why you would do it

I dont
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David Cage makes great scenes that in a vacuum are great, but connect them to the rest of the game and they're flacid
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Bump
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refmon posted...

Freddie_Mercury posted...

remember that time in beyond two souls where you can attempt suicide with literally no context on how you got there or why you would do it

I dont

the homeless one? yeah theres a random knife in a tire youcan use, or she can jump off a highrise into traffic lol.

I dont know if youcan actually go thru w either tho
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David Cage wouldn't be able to find his own ass with both hands tied behind his back.
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Freddie_Mercury posted...

remember that time in beyond two souls where you can attempt suicide with literally no context on how you got there or why you would do it

I mean her life was basically constant trauma and she was living in a hobo village at that point.
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Freddie_Mercury posted...

remember that time in beyond two souls where you can attempt suicide with literally no context on how you got there or why you would do it

I feel like that's more on you than David Cage. You can also go sing a song. You've got a ton of freedom at that point.
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CasualGuy posted...

Freddie_Mercury posted...

remember that time in beyond two souls where you can attempt suicide with literally no context on how you got there or why you would do it

I mean her life was basically constant trauma and she was living in a hobo village at that point.

the problem is that for some stupid fucking reason david cage decided the entire game should be played out of order, so the player has no context as to how she even got in that situation in the first place

for what it's worth detroit is infinitely better than beyond two souls, that game is just utter trash
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remember in indigo prophecy when you fight giant glowing termites? thats not even the dumbest shit in that turd of a game
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Remember when in Heavy Rain when the game lied to you about the killer because You play as him and see his inner monologue about how he wants to catch the killer because etc etc And then it turns out he is the killer because SURPRISE.
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A good scene out of a crap game does not make the game great.
Especially when that one great scene is sandwitched between hours of shit.
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I also like those mundane scenes in the house where you clean or whatever.

ACHEEKSMALLOY posted...

remember in indigo prophecy when you fight giant glowing termites? thats not even the dumbest shit in that turd of a game

Yeah it's a shame how much that game falls apart.

_____Cait posted...

Remember when in Heavy Rain when the game lied to you about the killer because You play as him and see his inner monologue about how he wants to catch the killer because etc etc And then it turns out he is the killer because SURPRISE.

Does he? I remember the bullshit part during a specific scene but nothing like that.
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I do feel like at times he has a tendency to pull something out his ass, a couple instances especially he'll hide plot information from a player but not the character you're controlling (kinda the equivalent of a TV show character whispering something into the protagonist's ear that we aren't made privy to).

But, I enjoy his games. Detroit: Become Human is definitely his best so far -- loved the main trio and was emotionally invested in all of them. I know it's cool to not appreciate graphics but as ever they are stunning and a real treat.

EDIT: One of the coolest main menus of all time to boot.
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He's good at "moments", but that's it, honestly.
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