Current Events > Cop advises man to break into house, woman inside responds with gun

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https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2018/05/21/rochester-cops-advice-break-controversy/591051002/

Moments after arriving at the city house, Rochester Police Officer Korey McNees offered a solution for the man standing outside who wanted to retrieve items from his uncooperative girlfriend who'd earlier changed the locks:

Just break into the house, McNees said.

The law allowed it, McNees told the man time and time again in conversations outside of the Genesee Park Boulevard home and captured on police-worn body cameras. If the boyfriend lived there, then he was in his legal right to kick in a door or break a window and get his small refrigerator, air conditioning unit, and gift cards he wanted from within, the officer said.

Finally, the boyfriend, who for more than 20 minutes hesitated to follow the advice and who did not formally reside at the home, listened to McNees and smashed out a window. His former girlfriend, Catherine Bonner, responded by sticking a 9mm rifle out of the window. And now Bonner is facing criminal charges, accused of menacing a police officer in the Nov. 13 incident.

On Tuesday, May 22, state Supreme Court Justice Charles Schiano is scheduled to rule on motions from Bonner's attorney, David Pilato, who contends that evidence in the case should be suppressed because the police actions before, during, and even after Bonner's arrest were clearly unconstitutional.

Prosecutors differ, saying Bonner had no cause to stick the rifle out the window, even if the police were in the wrong when telling the boyfriend he could break in.

At a hearing last month, McNees defended his handling of the matter, claiming that both police policy and state law supported his advice. Police leadership this year instead issued a directive, advising just the opposite of the actions McNees took.

In March of this year, the department issued a policy bulletin telling officers that, when responding to a civil domestic incident when one party is locked out of a home, they "will not advise citizens that they have a right to 'break in' to the residence, or that (police) members will stand by while he or she does."

The directive, issued in response to the Nov. 13 incident, reminds police that they likely can't determine who is an actual resident while at the scene and that encouraging someone to break in "can possibly create a violent confrontation" between the parties.

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now everyone's gonna laugh at his bonner
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Good for McNees...

Thought frankly the cops should have just ran on the situation and forced the resident to open up.
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Good, humans have been settling their own disputes amongst themselves for thousands of years with success, now it with every little problem big daddy state has to be called it
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The officer should've just went asked for her to open it himself. What an idiot.
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Cops encourage crime
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Dustin1280 posted...

Thought frankly the cops should have just ran on the situation and forced the resident to open up.

Unless he has proof the guy is telling the truth, no he shouldn't of.

Sure let's just advise people to break into houses. I'm sure that won't end badly

I side with the cop and the boyfriend. Fair, next. She was denying the guy access to his house and belongings when he had legal right to it. Domestic property theft/destruction may not be on the level of domestic violence, but crazy fucks who do this shit need serious legal repercussions. She had to know the cop was there and you don't point guns out of windows at cops, wtf. She should do time and lose permit to have guns.
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YukihoHagiwara posted...

now everyone's gonna laugh at his bonner

I know right, only 9mm?
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Isn't the proper response to call a marshal and have them accompany you while you retrieve your stuff? Then if the other party refuses you have a civil case against them. Of course that usually only works if you have proof of ownership for whatever you claim, so be sure to register big ticket items and keep receipts for stuff you wouldn't want to see go missing.
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Antifar posted...

Prosecutors differ, saying Bonner had no cause to stick the rifle out the window, even if the police were in the wrong when telling the boyfriend he could break in.

I would say someone busting my window out is cause to level a firearm at them. Especially when I've just had a potentially messy falling out with them.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

I side with the cop and the boyfriend. Fair, next. She was denying the guy access to his house

Finally, the boyfriend, who for more than 20 minutes hesitated to follow the advice and who did not formally reside at the home

thronedfire2 posted...

YukihoHagiwara posted...

now everyone's gonna laugh at his bonner

I know right, only 9mm?

A 9mm out of a carbine or rifle length barrel can and will go through police issue body armor.
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No one was right here

I wonder if Trayvon Martin supporters would demand that this guy be arrested if he declined the officer's instructions to break into a house.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

I wonder if Trayvon Martin supporters would demand that this guy be arrested if he declined the officer's instructions to break into a house.

Wow look at you hitting below the belt with a deflection like this...
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UnfairRepresent posted...

I wonder if Trayvon Martin supporters would demand that this guy be arrested if he declined the officer's instructions to break into a house.

As expected from unfair
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