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sobergermanguy
05/20/18 12:20:18 PM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/nytpolitics/status/998224774630400000

Trade wars are easy doe
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FLUFFYGERM
05/20/18 12:20:56 PM
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NormalPoster
05/20/18 12:21:17 PM
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Trump cultists: Look, Trump is lifting the shitty sanctions that Obummer put on China! MAGA MAGA MAGA! Winning!
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frozenshock
05/20/18 12:22:28 PM
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Im so curious to see how the economy will be like in a few years.

At this point i have no idea if Trump is a genuis or completely batshit insane. Its one or the other IMO.
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babyeatermax
05/20/18 12:43:22 PM
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Trump is getting clowned by China and North Korea.
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NormalPoster
05/20/18 12:44:11 PM
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babyeatermax posted...
Trump is getting clowned by China and North Korea.

It's hilarious that his slurpers were trying to say he deserved the Nobel Peace Prize
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frozenshock
05/20/18 12:50:02 PM
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NormalPoster posted...
babyeatermax posted...
Trump is getting clowned by China and North Korea.

It's hilarious that his slurpers were trying to say he deserved the Nobel Peace Prize


Well when it comes to North Korea its obvious the american prisoners were taken in with the intention of being used as bargaining chips. NK was always open to the idea of releasing them (the proof is that they were always isolated from other prisoners, which basically means they know nothing that NK doesnt want them to know).

NK would not have released them without something in return. The question is what? Did Trump give them money that we dont know about or were the sanctions and other things enough to make them bend? I guess we wont know for many years. Whatever the case I do wish Obama had done more for them. But it really goes back to the idea of how much negotiating with terrorists is acceptable.
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Autocraticus
05/20/18 12:53:52 PM
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Literally in the first few sentences of the article,

"In a joint statement on Saturday, the countries said China would "significantly increase" purchases of US goods and services to reduce their trade imbalance. This was a top demand of the Trump administration during two days of trade talks in Washington with Chinese officials."
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sobergermanguy
05/20/18 1:37:01 PM
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Autocraticus posted...
Literally in the first few sentences of the article,

"In a joint statement on Saturday, the countries said China would "significantly increase" purchases of US goods and services to reduce their trade imbalance. This was a top demand of the Trump administration during two days of trade talks in Washington with Chinese officials."

"Literally"

That's from the article someone else posted
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sobergermanguy
05/20/18 1:45:53 PM
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sobergermanguy posted...
Autocraticus posted...
Literally in the first few sentences of the article,

"In a joint statement on Saturday, the countries said China would "significantly increase" purchases of US goods and services to reduce their trade imbalance. This was a top demand of the Trump administration during two days of trade talks in Washington with Chinese officials."

"Literally"

That's from the article someone else posted

Anyway that's the official whitehouse statement and it's bullshit. Usual Trump admin fluff and lies. But don't take my word it. If you'd scrolled a little farther down you'd have seen trade experts and ecenomists calling bs
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BLAKUboy
05/20/18 1:49:03 PM
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Apparently the "best deals" are giving the other guy everything he wants while getting nothing in return.
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Verdekal
05/20/18 1:57:26 PM
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Just fucking wow. How many times has he been called a bully and a war mongerer?
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s0nicfan
05/20/18 2:00:17 PM
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Jesus you people are hopeless. Trump threatens tariffs and everyone says he's crazy and stupid. China comes to an agreement to lower trade deficit and trump removes the threatened tariffs and... everyone says he's crazy and stupid. It literally did exactly what he said it would. What the fuck does he need to do for you people to admit that even a single thing he's done actually worked? Jesus.
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ItsVinceRusso
05/20/18 2:02:02 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Jesus you people are hopeless. Trump threatens tariffs and everyone says he's crazy and stupid. China comes to an agreement to lower trade deficit and trump removes the threatened tariffs and... everyone says he's crazy and stupid. It literally did exactly what he said it would. What the fuck does he need to do for you people to admit that even a single thing he's done actually worked? Jesus.


I agree...the miserable monkey has enough failures and shortcomings that we don't have to pick on his few and between victories.
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NormalPoster
05/20/18 2:03:21 PM
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From the article

Scott Kennedy, an expert on the Chinese economy at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said the joint statement is "too vague to be binding on its own."

"It commits neither side to any specific action, either to expand trade and investment, constrain industrial policy or not adopt penalties," he said.

The key, according to Kennedy, is whether the US decided to drop its tariffs linked to the intellectual property investigation.

"If yes, China got a huge win," he said. "If not, we at most have a temporary respite in hostilities."


So we have no idea what's actually happening yet.
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DifferentialEquation
05/20/18 2:05:17 PM
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NormalPoster posted...
babyeatermax posted...
Trump is getting clowned by China and North Korea.

It's hilarious that his slurpers were trying to say he deserved the Nobel Peace Prize


And what about the Obama slurpers who thought it was completely appropriate for him to have received the award for doing nothing? Oh wait, he did drone strike a Doctors Without Borders hospital a few years later killing innocent people, my bad.
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NormalPoster
05/20/18 2:06:06 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
And what about the Obama slurpers who thought it was completely appropriate for him to have received the award for doing nothing?

They were just as wrong. Neither one deserves the prize.
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muchdran
05/20/18 2:06:17 PM
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ItsVinceRusso posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Jesus you people are hopeless. Trump threatens tariffs and everyone says he's crazy and stupid. China comes to an agreement to lower trade deficit and trump removes the threatened tariffs and... everyone says he's crazy and stupid. It literally did exactly what he said it would. What the fuck does he need to do for you people to admit that even a single thing he's done actually worked? Jesus.


I agree...the miserable monkey has enough failures and shortcomings that we don't have to pick on his few and between victories.

Monkey?
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butthole666
05/20/18 2:13:59 PM
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The economy is gonna crash in 2026

Coupled with increasing climate pressures, this will likely cripple the US and cause major societal collapse
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HylianFox
05/20/18 2:18:20 PM
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frozenshock posted...
Im so curious to see how the economy will be like in a few years.

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babyeatermax
05/20/18 2:31:45 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Jesus you people are hopeless. Trump threatens tariffs and everyone says he's crazy and stupid. China comes to an agreement to lower trade deficit and trump removes the threatened tariffs and... everyone says he's crazy and stupid. It literally did exactly what he said it would. What the fuck does he need to do for you people to admit that even a single thing he's done actually worked? Jesus.

The fuck are you talking about? We're supposed to praise the guy after this?

Here's what happened:

Trump raised prices on China. China called his bluff, started buying goods from Russia other countries. China called Trump's bluff. His trade gambit failed. The rest of the world is now laughing at how stupid and weak our President is
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s0nicfan
05/20/18 2:40:09 PM
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babyeatermax posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Jesus you people are hopeless. Trump threatens tariffs and everyone says he's crazy and stupid. China comes to an agreement to lower trade deficit and trump removes the threatened tariffs and... everyone says he's crazy and stupid. It literally did exactly what he said it would. What the fuck does he need to do for you people to admit that even a single thing he's done actually worked? Jesus.

The fuck are you talking about? We're supposed to praise the guy after this?

Here's what happened:

Trump raised prices on China. China called his bluff, started buying goods from Russia other countries. China called Trump's bluff. His trade gambit failed. The rest of the world is now laughing at how stupid and weak our President is


And you might have had a point, if China didn't actually STATE that they were going to address the trade imbalance.
FLUFFYGERM posted...
http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/19/news/china-united-states-trade-announcement/index.html


"In a joint statement on Saturday, the countries said China would "significantly increase" purchases of US goods and services to reduce their trade imbalance. This was a top demand of the Trump administration during two days of trade talks in Washington with Chinese officials."

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babyeatermax
05/20/18 3:07:01 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
babyeatermax posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Jesus you people are hopeless. Trump threatens tariffs and everyone says he's crazy and stupid. China comes to an agreement to lower trade deficit and trump removes the threatened tariffs and... everyone says he's crazy and stupid. It literally did exactly what he said it would. What the fuck does he need to do for you people to admit that even a single thing he's done actually worked? Jesus.

The fuck are you talking about? We're supposed to praise the guy after this?

Here's what happened:

Trump raised prices on China. China called his bluff, started buying goods from Russia other countries. China called Trump's bluff. His trade gambit failed. The rest of the world is now laughing at how stupid and weak our President is


And you might have had a point, if China didn't actually STATE that they were going to address the trade imbalance.
FLUFFYGERM posted...
http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/19/news/china-united-states-trade-announcement/index.html


"In a joint statement on Saturday, the countries said China would "significantly increase" purchases of US goods and services to reduce their trade imbalance. This was a top demand of the Trump administration during two days of trade talks in Washington with Chinese officials."

Maybe you should wait until China follows through on those promises before you start patting Trump on the back. Might be waiting for quite some time, though.
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s0nicfan
05/20/18 3:09:04 PM
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babyeatermax posted...
s0nicfan posted...
babyeatermax posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Jesus you people are hopeless. Trump threatens tariffs and everyone says he's crazy and stupid. China comes to an agreement to lower trade deficit and trump removes the threatened tariffs and... everyone says he's crazy and stupid. It literally did exactly what he said it would. What the fuck does he need to do for you people to admit that even a single thing he's done actually worked? Jesus.

The fuck are you talking about? We're supposed to praise the guy after this?

Here's what happened:

Trump raised prices on China. China called his bluff, started buying goods from Russia other countries. China called Trump's bluff. His trade gambit failed. The rest of the world is now laughing at how stupid and weak our President is


And you might have had a point, if China didn't actually STATE that they were going to address the trade imbalance.
FLUFFYGERM posted...
http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/19/news/china-united-states-trade-announcement/index.html


"In a joint statement on Saturday, the countries said China would "significantly increase" purchases of US goods and services to reduce their trade imbalance. This was a top demand of the Trump administration during two days of trade talks in Washington with Chinese officials."

Maybe you should wait until China follows through on those promises before you start patting Trump on the back. Might be waiting for quite some time, though.


And maybe you should wait until they don't before you start putting the blame on him as well. Right now neither of us are objectively right, but I have statements made by world leaders to back up my claim, and you have...?
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babyeatermax
05/20/18 3:31:16 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Right now neither of us are objectively right, but I have statements made by world leaders to back up my claim, and you have...?

Just a hunch.... and the opinions of dozens of experts on the subject.
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s0nicfan
05/20/18 3:33:57 PM
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babyeatermax posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Right now neither of us are objectively right, but I have statements made by world leaders to back up my claim, and you have...?

Just a hunch.... and the opinions of dozens of experts on the subject.


Okay, well I'll take the words of the people actually involved, you take the words of people with no direct involvement making partially informed decisions based on publicly released information, and we'll see who is right in the end. In the meantime, you'll stop preemptively saying his plan failed, and I won't hold it up as an accomplishment until we see updated trade numbers reflect an impact. Fair?
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s0nicfan
05/20/18 3:37:16 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
s0nicfan posted...
babyeatermax posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Right now neither of us are objectively right, but I have statements made by world leaders to back up my claim, and you have...?

Just a hunch.... and the opinions of dozens of experts on the subject.


Okay, well I'll take the words of the people actually involved, you take the words of people with no direct involvement making partially informed decisions based on publicly released information, and we'll see who is right in the end. In the meantime, you'll stop preemptively saying his plan failed, and I won't hold it up as an accomplishment until we see updated trade numbers reflect an impact. Fair?

Youll believe the propaganda rather than the policy


Oh shock, it wouldn't be a politics topic without you coming in after a bunch of people have discussed the issue to arbitrary attack one side of the argument while contributing absolutely nothing. You've got the regularity of a perfectly healthy bowel movement. I appreciate your consistency.
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OldSnakeLiveon8
05/20/18 4:24:20 PM
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Trump playing chess while everyone else playing checkers. #MAGA
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BLAKUboy
05/20/18 4:25:27 PM
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So did s0nicfan get hit for something in this topic or somewhere else?
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sobergermanguy
05/20/18 4:28:20 PM
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OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
Trump playing chess while everyone else playing checkers. #MAGA

Trump is playing Pokemon Red
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/20/18 4:31:36 PM
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OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
Trump playing chess while everyone else playing checkers. #MAGA


More like trump playing go fish while everyone else playing go. #DoubleMAGA
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Webmaster4531
05/20/18 4:32:08 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
So did s0nicfan get hit for something in this topic or somewhere else?

Don't see any deleted posts. He's constantly spouting propaganda as truth and racist tirades so it's going to be hard to find.
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NormalPoster
05/20/18 4:32:57 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
So did s0nicfan get hit for something in this topic or somewhere else?

Compared someone to a "brick wall with down syndrome" in another topic
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Damn_Underscore
05/20/18 4:36:49 PM
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Obama haters didn't give him credit for anything, Trump haters don't give him credit for anything.
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Tyranthraxus
05/20/18 4:38:27 PM
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sobergermanguy posted...
OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
Trump playing chess while everyone else playing checkers. #MAGA

Trump is playing Pokemon Red

He's still trying to catch Yoshi
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sobergermanguy
05/20/18 5:06:04 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Obama haters didn't give him credit for anything, Trump haters don't give him credit for anything.

The difference is Trump hasn't accomplished anything so there's nothing to give him credit for
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ModLogic
05/20/18 5:11:15 PM
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ItsVinceRusso posted...
I agree...the miserable monkey

thats racist oh wait double standards and racost projections womt apply in this case
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/20/18 5:11:25 PM
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sobergermanguy posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Obama haters didn't give him credit for anything, Trump haters don't give him credit for anything.

The difference is Trump hasn't accomplished anything so there's nothing to give him credit for


That's not true. He was the first person to say covfefe. That's... an accomplishment probably
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A_Good_Boy
05/20/18 5:25:32 PM
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China has been promising to address the trade imbalance ever since November. All they've done since then is announce more retaliatory tariffs against Trump and increase their trade with Russia.
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Webmaster4531
05/20/18 5:37:21 PM
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Now's the time to believe fascist communist capitalistic globalist China?
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OldSnakeLiveon8
05/20/18 6:52:53 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
Trump playing chess while everyone else playing checkers. #MAGA


More like trump playing go fish while everyone else playing go. #DoubleMAGA

This is America. We don't play your games
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muchdran
05/20/18 6:54:51 PM
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babyeatermax posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Right now neither of us are objectively right, but I have statements made by world leaders to back up my claim, and you have...?

Just a hunch.... and the opinions of dozens of users on ce .

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EverDownward
05/20/18 6:56:16 PM
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It's funny because Trump talked like China was the REAL enemy all through his campaign
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/20/18 7:06:45 PM
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OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
Trump playing chess while everyone else playing checkers. #MAGA


More like trump playing go fish while everyone else playing go. #DoubleMAGA

This is America. We don't play your games


lol "your"
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