Current Events > U.S. birth rate hit an all-time low, fueling fears of a demographic time bomb

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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Flockaveli posted...

By the time most women are out of grad school and done with residency finally working a full time job making enough money to support having a family their tubes are all dried up.

That's not how the female body works at all...

The vajeen?
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Flockaveli posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

Flockaveli posted...

By the time most women are out of grad school and done with residency finally working a full time job making enough money to support having a family their tubes are all dried up.

That's not how the female body works at all...

The vajeen?

The average age of menopause is like, 50. What woman is going to school for 32 years?
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Flockaveli posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

Flockaveli posted...

By the time most women are out of grad school and done with residency finally working a full time job making enough money to support having a family their tubes are all dried up.

That's not how the female body works at all...

The vajeen?

The average age of menopause is like, 50. What woman is going to school for 32 years?

A woman that becomes a doctor I believe has gone to school for around 32 years. Fertility drops every year after 30 I believe and is significantly reduced at age 35.
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Omega Hunter posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

Flockaveli posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

Flockaveli posted...

By the time most women are out of grad school and done with residency finally working a full time job making enough money to support having a family their tubes are all dried up.

That's not how the female body works at all...

The vajeen?

The average age of menopause is like, 50. What woman is going to school for 32 years?

A woman that becomes a doctor I believe has gone to school for around 32 years. Fertility drops every year after 30 I believe and is significantly reduced at age 35.

I can realize that the likelihood after 35 is less, but still, this is pushing a ridiculous rationale for a declining birth rate as the people it's impacting are so minuscule it's statistically irrelevant. It's simply a shitpost for easy bait and I'm treating it as such
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Too many fucking people in this country.

we both know what you really mean.

anyways great news.

this justifies the argument that we need to loosen up immigration laws.

I want more people in America
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

This is not good at all. Population decline is the key factor in destruction of a civilization.

Only in ancient societies that needed those populations for labor which is certainly not the case in modern societies, in which it's the opposite. A lot of people are unnecessary and a burden.
By the way, things Iike "cultural integration" are also considered factors in those ancient societal collapses

Women shouldn't push for kids in their 40s. Not worth the risk
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P4wn4g3 posted...

I just posted an article on this the other day. We are following Japan's trend.

Yes.

Japan is pretty much a crystal ball for us. Their dynamic, can-do economy became a strictly hierarchical field with some very established megacorporations with too much power. Companies who did titanic things such as developing a successful auto and electronics industry out of thin air suddenly can't adapt to any changes, just look at how Sony handled their hacks.

With shrinking jobs, men became disinterested in procreating and even dating, giving rise to the subculture known as hikikomori and also the "herbivore men".

Our economy is heading the same way, and we have our own version of hikikomori, called the shut-ins, and herbovire men, the incels.

Japan was never open to immigration so they're hurting now. We were open to immigration and that helped offset our birth rate issues, but now MAGA happened and the anti-immigrant sentiment is strong (just look at the recent "animals" speech).

The upside of this is that it means we got at still 20 years before we become what japan is right now.

Can afford kids and any kids you do have will grow up to inherit a world collapsing under the pressures of climate change
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BJ-blazkowics posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

I just posted an article on this the other day. We are following Japan's trend.

Yes.

Japan is pretty much a crystal ball for us. Their dynamic, can-do economy became a strictly hierarchical field with some very established megacorporations with too much power. Companies who did titanic things such as developing a successful auto and electronics industry out of thin air suddenly can't adapt to any changes, just look at how Sony handled their hacks.

With shrinking jobs, men became disinterested in procreating and even dating, giving rise to the subculture known as hikikomori and also the "herbivore men".

Our economy is heading the same way, and we have our own version of hikikomori, called the shut-ins, and herbovire men, the incels.

Japan was never open to immigration so they're hurting now. We were open to immigration and that helped offset our birth rate issues, but now MAGA happened and the anti-immigrant sentiment is strong (just look at the recent "animals" speech).

The upside of this is that it means we got at still 20 years before we become what japan is right now.

I basically agree with all of this and this is a big reason why I've criticized Japan in the past. As we inch closer and closer to AI becoming a reality while at the same time pushing rhetoric that divides the species, we are going to push to our own eventual collapse.
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jayj350 posted...

Lol so you are one of those Al Gore types

How dare we care about the environment or all the species we're killing off?
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Is it any wonder? It's never been more expensive to have a child, and real wages have been declining for nearly 40 years now. Plus, a lot of the typical blue-collar fields(manufacturing, mining, etc.) have shed jobs due to automation and off-shoring. You need a (ludicrously expensive) bachelor's degree to even get your foot in the door to most decent-paying jobs.
A large portion of my (small) income goes to paying off student loans. I can't afford to buy a house, and I certainly can't afford to raise a child, let alone afford to send that kid to college. I'd like to have kids, but it's economically unfeasible, even if I was with some one.

bover_87 posted...

nicklebro posted...

Sir Will posted...

nicklebro posted...

I hope now people will stop thinking overpopulation is a problem, or ever will be one.

I mean, it's still increasing in in many places. Increasing overall. Also, well, the ones pumping out the most babies are the poor and highly religious. Which is not good.

It's totally fine. Overpopulation is a myth. The earth can actually sustain quite a bit more people than we ever will have. Experts say the population will never even reach 12 billion, which still wouldn't be considered overpopulated.

[citation wanted]

Ftfy

SubtletyRefuge posted...

nicklebro posted...

SubtletyRefuge posted...

It's a fact of life that the more people there are the more the average quality of life will worsen. It's not a coincidence the happiest countries and regions with the highest quality of life have the smallest populations.

That's not true at all.

Nicklebro logic. The more people there are the less resources to go around thus lessening the average quality of life. Kids in a family of 4 would obviously have on average a better life than kids in a family of 10.

So if there were only 100 people on Earth they'd all live like gods! Much better logic. Lmao.
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BJ-blazkowics posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

I just posted an article on this the other day. We are following Japan's trend.

Yes.

Japan is pretty much a crystal ball for us. Their dynamic, can-do economy became a strictly hierarchical field with some very established megacorporations with too much power. Companies who did titanic things such as developing a successful auto and electronics industry out of thin air suddenly can't adapt to any changes, just look at how Sony handled their hacks.

With shrinking jobs, men became disinterested in procreating and even dating, giving rise to the subculture known as hikikomori and also the "herbivore men".

Our economy is heading the same way, and we have our own version of hikikomori, called the shut-ins, and herbovire men, the incels.

Japan was never open to immigration so they're hurting now. We were open to immigration and that helped offset our birth rate issues, but now MAGA happened and the anti-immigrant sentiment is strong (just look at the recent "animals" speech).

The upside of this is that it means we got at still 20 years before we become what japan is right now.

Right, all first world developed countries are collapsing and it's the 2nd/3rd world undeveloped and developing countries that are thriving. Perhaps we should've been like them and not have let women into the workforce

This is good for selfish reasons. I want to build a life with my future wife without the social pressures of having a bunch of children.
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nicklebro posted...

if there were only 100 people on Earth they'd all live like gods! Much better logic. Lmao.

lmao resorting to hyperbolic shitposts.
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PtlessAgmnts posted...

BJ-blazkowics posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

I just posted an article on this the other day. We are following Japan's trend.

Yes.

Japan is pretty much a crystal ball for us. Their dynamic, can-do economy became a strictly hierarchical field with some very established megacorporations with too much power. Companies who did titanic things such as developing a successful auto and electronics industry out of thin air suddenly can't adapt to any changes, just look at how Sony handled their hacks.

With shrinking jobs, men became disinterested in procreating and even dating, giving rise to the subculture known as hikikomori and also the "herbivore men".

Our economy is heading the same way, and we have our own version of hikikomori, called the shut-ins, and herbovire men, the incels.

Japan was never open to immigration so they're hurting now. We were open to immigration and that helped offset our birth rate issues, but now MAGA happened and the anti-immigrant sentiment is strong (just look at the recent "animals" speech).

The upside of this is that it means we got at still 20 years before we become what japan is right now.

Right, all first world developed countries are collapsing and it's the 2nd/3rd world undeveloped and developing countries that are thriving. Perhaps we should've been like them and not have let women into the workforce

where did you draw that insane conclusion from? My post said nothing of the sort.

BJ-blazkowics posted...

PtlessAgmnts posted...

BJ-blazkowics posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

I just posted an article on this the other day. We are following Japan's trend.

Yes.

Japan is pretty much a crystal ball for us. Their dynamic, can-do economy became a strictly hierarchical field with some very established megacorporations with too much power. Companies who did titanic things such as developing a successful auto and electronics industry out of thin air suddenly can't adapt to any changes, just look at how Sony handled their hacks.

With shrinking jobs, men became disinterested in procreating and even dating, giving rise to the subculture known as hikikomori and also the "herbivore men".

Our economy is heading the same way, and we have our own version of hikikomori, called the shut-ins, and herbovire men, the incels.

Japan was never open to immigration so they're hurting now. We were open to immigration and that helped offset our birth rate issues, but now MAGA happened and the anti-immigrant sentiment is strong (just look at the recent "animals" speech).

The upside of this is that it means we got at still 20 years before we become what japan is right now.

Right, all first world developed countries are collapsing and it's the 2nd/3rd world undeveloped and developing countries that are thriving. Perhaps we should've been like them and not have let women into the workforce

where did you draw that insane conclusion from? My post said nothing of the sort.

Because the majority of developed countries is like this. Canada and Australia are in the same boat with even stricter immigration policies than the US.

What do you expect when the state replaces fathers and subsidizes single motherhood / poverty, indirectly encouraging both? Marriage is a huge risk these days, especially if you're a man who wants children.
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PtlessAgmnts posted...

BJ-blazkowics posted...

PtlessAgmnts posted...

BJ-blazkowics posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

I just posted an article on this the other day. We are following Japan's trend.

Yes.

Japan is pretty much a crystal ball for us. Their dynamic, can-do economy became a strictly hierarchical field with some very established megacorporations with too much power. Companies who did titanic things such as developing a successful auto and electronics industry out of thin air suddenly can't adapt to any changes, just look at how Sony handled their hacks.

With shrinking jobs, men became disinterested in procreating and even dating, giving rise to the subculture known as hikikomori and also the "herbivore men".

Our economy is heading the same way, and we have our own version of hikikomori, called the shut-ins, and herbovire men, the incels.

Japan was never open to immigration so they're hurting now. We were open to immigration and that helped offset our birth rate issues, but now MAGA happened and the anti-immigrant sentiment is strong (just look at the recent "animals" speech).

The upside of this is that it means we got at still 20 years before we become what japan is right now.

Right, all first world developed countries are collapsing and it's the 2nd/3rd world undeveloped and developing countries that are thriving. Perhaps we should've been like them and not have let women into the workforce

where did you draw that insane conclusion from? My post said nothing of the sort.

Because the majority of developed countries is like this. Canada and Australia are in the same boat with even stricter immigration policies than the US.

Nobody said "open borders". Canada and Australia are more open than Japan, for example. The US is currently more open than Japan too, but the de facto situation makes it more like japan because of the MAGA stuff, I mean, look at the hissy fit you just threw here

No shock. Who the fuck wants a kid in this shitty economy?
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People are just seeing their close friends lives ruined over court battles for custody and being forced to pay half their money for some other guy to raise their kids. Women, by default, get vast majority custody. Who wants to put up with being broke while your ex has entertainment money?

This is why more and more people are dog owners.
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Sayoria posted...

No shock. Who the fuck wants a kid in this shitty economy?

the economy is better than ever
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This is a thing
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

What do you expect when the state replaces fathers and subsidizes single motherhood / poverty, indirectly encouraging both? Marriage is a huge risk these days, especially if you're a man who wants children.

Shut up.
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I love how Boomers crushed us with debt, are forcing us to pay for their retirements they didn't save for, and by the time they're gone, there won't be enough Gen Z+ to help Millennials retire. Thanks, Boomers.
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SubtletyRefuge posted...

nicklebro posted...

if there were only 100 people on Earth they'd all live like gods! Much better logic. Lmao.

lmao resorting to hyperbolic shitposts.

And you resort to deflecting because you know I'm right.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

I love how Boomers crushed us with debt, are forcing us to pay for their retirements they didn't save for, and by the time they're gone, there won't be enough Gen Z+ to help Millennials retire. Thanks, Boomers.

and then they go like "stop eating avocado toast"

FLUFFYGERM posted...

What do you expect when the state replaces fathers and subsidizes single motherhood / poverty, indirectly encouraging both? Marriage is a huge risk these days, especially if you're a man who wants children.

R E D P l L L
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foreveraIone posted...

Sayoria posted...

No shock. Who the fuck wants a kid in this shitty economy?

the economy is better than ever

For corporations, not family starting.
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BJ-blazkowics posted...

PtlessAgmnts posted...

BJ-blazkowics posted...

PtlessAgmnts posted...

BJ-blazkowics posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

I just posted an article on this the other day. We are following Japan's trend.

Yes.

Japan is pretty much a crystal ball for us. Their dynamic, can-do economy became a strictly hierarchical field with some very established megacorporations with too much power. Companies who did titanic things such as developing a successful auto and electronics industry out of thin air suddenly can't adapt to any changes, just look at how Sony handled their hacks.

With shrinking jobs, men became disinterested in procreating and even dating, giving rise to the subculture known as hikikomori and also the "herbivore men".

Our economy is heading the same way, and we have our own version of hikikomori, called the shut-ins, and herbovire men, the incels.

Japan was never open to immigration so they're hurting now. We were open to immigration and that helped offset our birth rate issues, but now MAGA happened and the anti-immigrant sentiment is strong (just look at the recent "animals" speech).

The upside of this is that it means we got at still 20 years before we become what japan is right now.

Right, all first world developed countries are collapsing and it's the 2nd/3rd world undeveloped and developing countries that are thriving. Perhaps we should've been like them and not have let women into the workforce

where did you draw that insane conclusion from? My post said nothing of the sort.

Because the majority of developed countries is like this. Canada and Australia are in the same boat with even stricter immigration policies than the US.

Nobody said "open borders". Canada and Australia are more open than Japan, for example. The US is currently more open than Japan too, but the de facto situation makes it more like japan because of the MAGA stuff, I mean, look at the hissy fit you just threw here

And Japan already has a higher population (and economy) than both. The point still stands that all developed countries have similar levels of decreasing population as well as strict immigration policies.
You're just being an ignorant idealist who know doesn't know how the world works.

The US is overpopulated, this isn't Japan, stop worrying.
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Godnorgosh posted...

foreveraIone posted...

Sayoria posted...

No shock. Who the fuck wants a kid in this shitty economy?

the economy is better than ever

In terms of what? GDP?

Wages have been rising under Trump and unemployment rate havent seen such lows in as much as 10 years
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Very few people of the age to have kids have money, what a surprise. America is such a shithole country. Can the economy please fucking explode already so we can violently murder all the rich fuckers and start over already.
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PtlessAgmnts posted...

BJ-blazkowics posted...

PtlessAgmnts posted...

BJ-blazkowics posted...

PtlessAgmnts posted...

BJ-blazkowics posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

I just posted an article on this the other day. We are following Japan's trend.

Yes.

Japan is pretty much a crystal ball for us. Their dynamic, can-do economy became a strictly hierarchical field with some very established megacorporations with too much power. Companies who did titanic things such as developing a successful auto and electronics industry out of thin air suddenly can't adapt to any changes, just look at how Sony handled their hacks.

With shrinking jobs, men became disinterested in procreating and even dating, giving rise to the subculture known as hikikomori and also the "herbivore men".

Our economy is heading the same way, and we have our own version of hikikomori, called the shut-ins, and herbovire men, the incels.

Japan was never open to immigration so they're hurting now. We were open to immigration and that helped offset our birth rate issues, but now MAGA happened and the anti-immigrant sentiment is strong (just look at the recent "animals" speech).

The upside of this is that it means we got at still 20 years before we become what japan is right now.

Right, all first world developed countries are collapsing and it's the 2nd/3rd world undeveloped and developing countries that are thriving. Perhaps we should've been like them and not have let women into the workforce

where did you draw that insane conclusion from? My post said nothing of the sort.

Because the majority of developed countries is like this. Canada and Australia are in the same boat with even stricter immigration policies than the US.

Nobody said "open borders". Canada and Australia are more open than Japan, for example. The US is currently more open than Japan too, but the de facto situation makes it more like japan because of the MAGA stuff, I mean, look at the hissy fit you just threw here

And Japan already has a higher population (and economy) than both. The point still stands that all developed countries have similar levels of decreasing population as well as strict immigration policies.
You're just being an ignorant idealist who know doesn't know how the world works.

My post wasn't even about immigration, it was about the paralels between both countries and how Japan is like a crystal ball for us.

You're the one who got triggered because "MAGA!! MAGA!!! WHITE ONLY PLOX"

If the rich and their lacky politicians would just stop fucking over the poor and middle class and give us some decent wages and ways to get healthcare then they might start having kids more.

You got these far right white nationalists worrying about how the white race is dying or will be pushed out yet defend the poor getting screwed over all the time. It's nuts.
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nicklebro posted...

SubtletyRefuge posted...

nicklebro posted...

if there were only 100 people on Earth they'd all live like gods! Much better logic. Lmao.

lmao resorting to hyperbolic shitposts.

And you resort to deflecting because you know I'm right.

Classic nicklebro brain dead shitpost. 100 people can't handle a modern civilization. A hundred thousand can. Your post is akin to going "let's just ban all cars!" because of car accidents. Why can't you ever post anything resembling intelligence
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MasterGakke posted...

Very few people of the age to have kids have money, what a surprise. America is such a shithole country. Can the economy please fucking explode already so we can violently murder all the rich fuckers and start over already.

The hicks up on blueberry mountain will come down in MAGA hats with half bottles of moonshine to give their lives for their hedge fund overlords.
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Sayoria posted...

MasterGakke posted...

Very few people of the age to have kids have money, what a surprise. America is such a shithole country. Can the economy please fucking explode already so we can violently murder all the rich fuckers and start over already.

The hicks up on blueberry mountain will come down in MAGA hats with half bottles of moonshine to give their lives for their hedge fund overlords.

I so wish this was satire...
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BJ-blazkowics posted...

PtlessAgmnts posted...

BJ-blazkowics posted...

PtlessAgmnts posted...

BJ-blazkowics posted...

PtlessAgmnts posted...

BJ-blazkowics posted...

Yes.

Japan is pretty much a crystal ball for us. Their dynamic, can-do economy became a strictly hierarchical field with some very established megacorporations with too much power. Companies who did titanic things such as developing a successful auto and electronics industry out of thin air suddenly can't adapt to any changes, just look at how Sony handled their hacks.

With shrinking jobs, men became disinterested in procreating and even dating, giving rise to the subculture known as hikikomori and also the "herbivore men".

Our economy is heading the same way, and we have our own version of hikikomori, called the shut-ins, and herbovire men, the incels.

Japan was never open to immigration so they're hurting now. We were open to immigration and that helped offset our birth rate issues, but now MAGA happened and the anti-immigrant sentiment is strong (just look at the recent "animals" speech).

The upside of this is that it means we got at still 20 years before we become what japan is right now.

Right, all first world developed countries are collapsing and it's the 2nd/3rd world undeveloped and developing countries that are thriving. Perhaps we should've been like them and not have let women into the workforce

where did you draw that insane conclusion from? My post said nothing of the sort.

Because the majority of developed countries is like this. Canada and Australia are in the same boat with even stricter immigration policies than the US.

Nobody said "open borders". Canada and Australia are more open than Japan, for example. The US is currently more open than Japan too, but the de facto situation makes it more like japan because of the MAGA stuff, I mean, look at the hissy fit you just threw here

And Japan already has a higher population (and economy) than both. The point still stands that all developed countries have similar levels of decreasing population as well as strict immigration policies.
You're just being an ignorant idealist who know doesn't know how the world works.

My post wasn't even about immigration, it was about the paralels between both countries and how Japan is like a crystal ball for us.

You're the one who got triggered because "MAGA!! MAGA!!! WHITE ONLY PLOX"

The irony of you going "white only plox" when the reason you're negatively comparing the US with Japan and not any of the other developed countries with the same exact situations is because of your xenophobia and casual racism towards it. And I'm certain all the countries you're going to assert as good countries all happen to be white countries too.

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Post on your main, or is your main banned for being a clown?

So Thanos won't need to dust us???

Natural selection doing its work
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Now we just need the 3rd world to slow down the rate at which they're reproducing. The poorest countries add around 70 million more people per year to the global population. That is not sustainable, yet they're fucking like rabbits.
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PtlessAgmnts posted...

The irony of you going "white only plox" when the reason you're negatively comparing the US with Japan and not any of the other developed countries with the same exact situations is because of your xenophobia and casual racism towards it. And I'm certain all the countries you're going to assert as good countries all happen to be white countries too.

MAGA MAGA white only plox </PtlessAgmnts>

foreveraIone posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Too many fucking people in this country.

we both know what you really mean.

anyways great news.

this justifies the argument that we need to loosen up immigration laws.

I want more people in America

What? Lmao, no. Right here in this thread you see people saying that its good that the birth rate is declining, as in we dont need more people. How in the fuck does that translate to open the borders and increase immigration?
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A world without children... Future generations will thank us!
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BJ-blazkowics posted...

PtlessAgmnts posted...

The irony of you going "white only plox" when the reason you're negatively comparing the US with Japan and not any of the other developed countries with the same exact situations is because of your xenophobia and casual racism towards it. And I'm certain all the countries you're going to assert as good countries all happen to be white countries too.

MAGA MAGA white only plox </PtlessAgmnts>

it's hilarious seeing ignorant Americans think they're not ignorant just because they oppose trump. Keep making accounts and getting them banned, ROD

Hey BJ what is plox and why is it whites only?
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