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yusiko
05/14/18 12:36:30 AM
#102:


Dash_Harber posted...
https://cdn.gamer-network.net/2015/usgamer/Mevius-FF-Art-01.jpg


serah's outfit isnt scantily clad though
nothing is wrong with it other than being kind of ugly (her alternate outfits are all better)
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dave_is_slick
05/14/18 1:11:21 AM
#103:


Dash_Harber posted...
The fact that you had to literally stop and say, "Oh, well, except for ..." sort of shows that you aren't consistent.

I think it shows that I was willing to admit I was wrong about something.

And as for the pics:
No
Yes, but if combat effectiveness is your criteria, the dude also fails so at least it's equal
Mentioned Ivy and her practical alts
Mentioned Mortal Kombat
4-in-1! Yes, but considering the state of the world she can be forgiven. That's a side shot so I can't tell. Can't tell, honestly. No
Borderline
No
No
Yes
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Dash_Harber
05/14/18 1:21:11 AM
#104:


yusiko posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
https://cdn.gamer-network.net/2015/usgamer/Mevius-FF-Art-01.jpg


serah's outfit isnt scantily clad though
nothing is wrong with it other than being kind of ugly (her alternate outfits are all better)


Yeah, it's just that it had all three other ones in one picture.

dave_is_slick posted...


Ah, so it's rare and all the examples I showed you of titillating, scantily clad women are just random exceptions or they don't count because ... it's not a literal fur bikini. That's the definition of moving the goal posts. So I guess we'll just leave it at that.
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Esrac
05/14/18 1:22:44 AM
#105:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Esrac posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Esrac posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Behaviorism posted...
Video games are supposed to be an escape from reality. Why can't there just be boobs for boobs sake?

Because believe it or not, more than just incels like to escape from reality. It's nice to partake in escapism without that constant ever present reminder that you're partaking in an activity that's inexplicably linked to under, and nonesexed teens. Being reminded of weirdos isn't escaping reality, it's having them slap you in the face with their desperation and virginity.


I think you're thinking too much about dudes that aren't getting laid. Do incels haunt your dreams when your sleep? Do you still see them when you close your eyes?

But seriously, you don't have to be a virgin or undersexed to like sexy women in your video games. Hell, you can even think designs like the OPs are cool and aesthetically entertaining without beating off to it.

If you're seeking out sexy women in videogames then you probably are undersexed or a virgin, so yes.


That doesn't really follow, no.

I mean, I literally banged my wife last night and I think designs for female characters like in the OP are aesthetically pleasing or otherwise cool.

I'm not beating off to the characters in games, but I like the designs for characters like SC's Ivy, FF7's Tifa, Bayonetta, etc. But I also like more conservative designs like VP's Lenneth.

I also think the design is cool, more so as an incidental character design in a videogame I happened to stumble across. I'm more so referring to people that'll actually search out characters with those designs as the basis for a criteria that they'll use to play a game in the first place. The types of people that'll hide from their parents that they're playing Soul Calibur the Dead or Alive series. Those are the undersexed I was talking about.


We can say there is a spectrum of sex appeal in female character design and games that include it. You might have some games like Final Fantasy 7 with Tifa, then Soul Calibur with Ivy, Street Fighter with Cammy, etc. I think you'll find a lot of these kind of designs primarily in Japanese RPGs, action games, and fighting games, where the priority is often on making designs that look cool rather than practicality. That often includes some revealing attire on female characters.

And then there are games like Valkyrie Drive: Bhikkhunni and Senran Kagura. Where the entire cast consists of very busy teenage girls who's clothes can inexplicably be torn to nothing. When you talk about undersexed guys, I think you mean the target demographic for games like that.

This is, of course, discounting deliberately pornographic games like HuniePop or the Sakura series.
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dodokiki
05/14/18 2:03:03 AM
#106:


Artist looks like Oda Non
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Sphyx
05/14/18 2:56:03 AM
#107:


Pornstars have sex.
The guys that come up with things like this probably don't.
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Second_Chances
05/14/18 3:05:28 AM
#108:


what if a game has a porn artist do the character designs but they're all dressed really prudish and safe because that's their fetish
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Banana_Cyanide
05/14/18 3:20:34 AM
#109:


There sure is a lot of pretentious white knighting for fictional characters going on in this topic.

Also is it any wonder that everyone I have tagged as SJW is acting like a typical SJW especially really early in the topic.
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Sphyx
05/14/18 3:42:18 AM
#110:


Banana_Cyanide posted...
everyone I have tagged as SJW

You'd probably tag a wheel of cheese as an SJW if it looked at you the wrong way.
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Banana_Cyanide
05/14/18 3:53:52 AM
#111:


Sphyx posted...
You'd probably tag a wheel of cheese as an SJW if it looked at you the wrong way.

I don't tag just anybody. I have a specific criteria and have even removed tags from users.
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yusiko
05/14/18 4:09:43 AM
#112:


Sphyx posted...
Banana_Cyanide posted...
everyone I have tagged as SJW

You'd probably tag a wheel of cheese as an SJW if it looked at you the wrong way.


i tag people who use the term SJW seriously as :used SJW seriously:

its a great way to know whose opinions dont need to be taken seriously
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The Catgirl Fondler
05/14/18 2:04:02 PM
#114:


Yes, but if combat effectiveness is your criteria, the dude also fails so at least it's equal


I always did find it interesting that the exact same people who whine about half-naked female characters, either say nothing about half-naked male characters, or endlessly praise their inclusion.

One might begin to think the detractors of a scanty female form in fiction are merely biased in what they consider acceptable fanservice. Straight female & gay male gamers are absolutely a thing afterall, so you can't really blame them for wanting something to gawk at too. (Incidentally, there's very few gay female gamers who would complain about the image in the opening post or any similar material in other games.)

I'm fine with advocating for equality to cover differing preferences of course, but I won't agree to it's outright removal for anyone or everyone.
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spanky1
05/14/18 2:12:47 PM
#115:


There's nothing wrong with erotic art in mainstream media.
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spanky1
05/14/18 2:13:31 PM
#116:


I feel like I need to point out that the PS4 version of Dragon's Crown comes out tomorrow.

Sorceress got some top tier boobs imo.
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redeadlink
05/14/18 2:28:39 PM
#117:


Some one said something about skimpy clothes in Dragon's Dogma. Aren't the skimpy outfits just as skimpy on the males?
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Dash_Harber
05/14/18 2:48:27 PM
#118:


spanky1 posted...
I feel like I need to point out that the PS4 version of Dragon's Crown comes out tomorrow.

Sorceress got some top tier boobs imo.


I actually was curious about the outrage at first, then I played the game. I realized that it was more comedic than titillating and laughed off the controversy as misguided at best.
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Funbazooka
05/14/18 2:53:24 PM
#119:


People who complain about hot women in video games are clowns. Just laugh in their face.
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masterpug53
05/14/18 2:55:55 PM
#120:


TC is the reason why the skimpiest outfit you could find in Fallout 4 was the Summer Shorts. No seriously, call Todd Howard up and ask him: 'Oh yeah, we used to love designing kinky male-gaze shit like the Bombshell and Forsworn armors, but after Antisoptera complained, we did away with that kind of stuff, and everyone's much happier with our games now.'
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spanky1
05/14/18 3:11:11 PM
#121:


Sometimes I wonder what legendary artists like Julie Bell and Boris Vallejo think about criticism like this. Their entire lives have been devoted to the creation of breath taking erotic artwork. When is society going to stop demonizing sexuality?
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spanky1
05/14/18 3:21:05 PM
#122:


Also I'm kinda low key jealous of @NeonOctopus, because I'm the "board perv" on LUE pretty much, and it's weird how he's the board perv on CE. It's like, why can't I also get tagged when there's a discussion of macro tits? I made a sex RPG for crayon out loud.
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SpiralDrift
05/14/18 3:21:36 PM
#123:


spanky1 posted...
Sometimes I wonder what legendary artists like Julie Bell and Boris Vallejo think about criticism like this. Their entire lives have been devoted to the creation of breath taking erotic artwork. When is society going to stop demonizing sexuality?

Yeah, or H.R. Geiger, who would have undoubtedly been raked over the coals for his genital landscapes and depictions of females in weird sexual situations.
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Funbazooka
05/14/18 3:36:58 PM
#124:


spanky1 posted...
When is society going to stop demonizing sexuality?

"It's righteous when men are the targets" is the prevailing attitude of SJWs.
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Mist_Turnips
05/14/18 5:07:06 PM
#125:


Everytime a feminist complains about not being taken seriously, they turn around and cry about attractive fictional characters. Kinda makes it hard to think they have any real issues to complain about.
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shokan_warrior
05/14/18 5:14:04 PM
#126:


i'm only here to find artist names and art

i'm very disappointed with this topic's direction

pls more pics
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southcoast09
05/14/18 5:20:34 PM
#127:


yusiko posted...
Esrac posted...
It's already a pretty cool character design.

And it's weird to suggest showing skin reduces a female character's dignity.


no it isnt a cool character design

and its not showing skin that reduces a female characters dignity its showing skin just to be sexually arousing for teenage boys that reduces the female characters dignity

for example i actually like velvet's design in tales of berseria
it shows a lot of skin but its also done to show how wild she is and how little she cares about anything and they clearly put a lot of effort into the design to make it look cool

she still has dignity and a sexualized outfit

this character does not

*sees depiction of attractive woman*
*has meltdown*
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Blue_Dream87
05/14/18 5:23:40 PM
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A_Good_Boy
05/14/18 6:59:59 PM
#129:


Blue_Dream87 posted...
So did we ever find out what game she's from?

I don't think anyone knows.
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LinksLiege
05/14/18 7:51:19 PM
#130:


yusiko posted...
i tag people who use the term SJW seriously as :used SJW seriously:

its a great way to know whose opinions dont need to be taken seriously

Iunno, I'll at least read it if it has SJW in it.

It's when they get to "cuck" and "soyboy" that I tune out. Tag, ignore list, done. Never has a worthy point been made in the same breath as either of those things.
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Alucard188
05/14/18 8:03:04 PM
#131:


The guy who does the art for Growlanser also does hentai. He's pretty good at it, too.
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Cookie Bag
05/14/18 8:05:34 PM
#132:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Blue_Dream87 posted...
So did we ever find out what game she's from?

I don't think anyone knows.

Artist is Oda Non, this says its from something called Metal Max.

Also odds are if someone is an artist, they do/did/will do porn.
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FightingGames
05/14/18 8:15:07 PM
#133:


i recognize that hentai artist
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Cookie Bag
05/14/18 8:20:15 PM
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NeonOctopus
05/15/18 10:52:25 AM
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Esrac
05/15/18 10:01:35 PM
#136:


NeonOctopus posted...
I love titties in my mouth yo >_>


Funny coincidence, I just watched Highschool DxD last night. If the dub obviously didn't take the content seriously, I think it would've been awful. But the dub made it funny.
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Anisoptera
05/15/18 10:05:35 PM
#137:


Highschool DxD, My First Girlfriend Is A Gal, Citrus or any ecchi Anime is better watched dubbed.
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