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Jen0125
05/12/18 8:09:39 PM
#101:


SunWuKung420 posted...
*enjoys Mexican dinner with wife*


Why don't you pay attention to your wife instead of posting here?
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SunWuKung420
05/12/18 8:13:30 PM
#102:


Jen0125 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
*enjoys Mexican dinner with wife*


Why don't you pay attention to your wife instead of posting here?


We are watching a movie, "Dunkirk", with dinner. Plus, I'm a capable multi-tasker. I can talk to her while posting. I take it you're blaming posting for your negligence of mando?
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Mead
05/12/18 8:15:24 PM
#103:


Sunny always desperate to convince everyone that he enjoys his life
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Jen0125
05/12/18 8:15:42 PM
#104:


I talked to Mando about our situation today and it went pretty well.

It was pretty much like I thought. He said he is confused about his feelings. I said that is understandable but he needs to make a decision about whether he wants to see if his feelings can be rekindled for me or whether he wants to try to see other people because he can't do both at once. I can't live like that. He said he understood. I told him if he decided the former we didn't need to go back to labels right away and my priority right now is me and he said he agreed that was what he thought was right. I told him he didn't need to make a decision right now and he could think about it for a little bit so he said he would.

He also said he realized he didn't really have feelings for that other woman. He said he got really emotionally confused because she was giving him emotional support when he needed it after he hadn't had any in a long time from me. I said that was understandable.
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SunWuKung420
05/12/18 8:20:07 PM
#105:


Mead posted...
Sunny always desperate to convince everyone that he enjoys his life


Nah. Not doing that. But hey, feel free to interpret my posts however your pretty brain decides to.
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Jen0125
05/12/18 8:22:40 PM
#106:


I mean you came in here to shit pretty much for no reason but that's okay.
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Firewood18
05/12/18 8:28:36 PM
#107:


Serious question. Did alcohol become necessary to sleep?
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Mead
05/12/18 8:34:48 PM
#108:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Mead posted...
Sunny always desperate to convince everyone that he enjoys his life


Nah. Not doing that. But hey, feel free to interpret my posts however your pretty brain decides to.


Sweet
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Jen0125
05/12/18 8:34:53 PM
#109:


Firewood18 posted...
Serious question. Did alcohol become necessary to sleep?


Not for me but at a certain point in time it became necessary for me to not have sleep paralysis. It doesn't seem that's the case anymore.
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SmokeMassTree
05/12/18 8:37:16 PM
#110:


Jen0125 posted...
I talked to Mando about our situation today and it went pretty well.

It was pretty much like I thought. He said he is confused about his feelings. I said that is understandable but he needs to make a decision about whether he wants to see if his feelings can be rekindled for me or whether he wants to try to see other people because he can't do both at once. I can't live like that. He said he understood. I told him if he decided the former we didn't need to go back to labels right away and my priority right now is me and he said he agreed that was what he thought was right. I told him he didn't need to make a decision right now and he could think about it for a little bit so he said he would.

He also said he realized he didn't really have feelings for that other woman. He said he got really emotionally confused because she was giving him emotional support when he needed it after he hadn't had any in a long time from me. I said that was understandable.


That's a mature way to handle it. Do you want to try again with him? Earlier you said you were over it so I'm just wondering.

I must have missed the part about the other woman.
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supergamer19
05/12/18 8:37:30 PM
#111:


You're out?

https://imgur.com/UjoJCR2

Haha all the best.
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SmokeMassTree
05/12/18 8:38:50 PM
#112:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
*enjoys Mexican dinner with wife*


Why don't you pay attention to your wife instead of posting here?


We are watching a movie, "Dunkirk", with dinner. Plus, I'm a capable multi-tasker. I can talk to her while posting. I take it you're blaming posting for your negligence of mando?


The bar cook is eating a TV dinner with his wife on a Saturday night, but he wants to shit on other people.


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helIy
05/12/18 8:40:19 PM
#113:


Mead posted...
Sunny always desperate to convince everyone that he enjoys his life

meanwhile he's spending time here getting shit on by everyone while he supposedly is eating dinner and watching a movie with his wife

just like how he was here all day when he was supposedly getting married
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LinkPizza
05/12/18 8:47:26 PM
#114:


Jen0125 posted...
Firewood18 posted...
Serious question. Did alcohol become necessary to sleep?


Not for me but at a certain point in time it became necessary for me to not have sleep paralysis. It doesn't seem that's the case anymore.

Sleep paralysis is scary.
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Jen0125
05/12/18 8:52:31 PM
#115:


SmokeMassTree posted...
That's a mature way to handle it. Do you want to try again with him? Earlier you said you were over it so I'm just wondering.

I must have missed the part about the other woman.


I do want to be with him. I'm not over him, I'm very much in love with him. But I have to be realistic about it. I have to prioritize my recovery and make sure I'm working my program. Whatever happens with our relationship is going to happen. I can't change the past.
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Jen0125
05/12/18 8:52:54 PM
#116:


supergamer19 posted...
You're out?

https://imgur.com/UjoJCR2

Haha all the best.


lmao is that ranch dressing?
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SkynyrdRocker
05/12/18 8:55:33 PM
#117:


Hey @SunWuKung420 why are you such a dick? The fry cook life isn't fulfilling enough for you?
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Mead
05/12/18 8:55:38 PM
#118:


LinkPizza posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Firewood18 posted...
Serious question. Did alcohol become necessary to sleep?


Not for me but at a certain point in time it became necessary for me to not have sleep paralysis. It doesn't seem that's the case anymore.

Sleep paralysis is scary.


Heck yeah it is

Only happened to me once but it was terrifying
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SunWuKung420
05/12/18 8:57:30 PM
#119:


Man, this board. I haven't worked at the bar since the Eagles won the Superbowl.
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LinkPizza
05/12/18 8:58:54 PM
#120:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Man, this board. I haven't worked at the bar since the Eagles won the Superbowl.

I don't know sports...
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Jen0125
05/12/18 9:01:14 PM
#121:


Mead posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Firewood18 posted...
Serious question. Did alcohol become necessary to sleep?


Not for me but at a certain point in time it became necessary for me to not have sleep paralysis. It doesn't seem that's the case anymore.

Sleep paralysis is scary.


Heck yeah it is

Only happened to me once but it was terrifying


One time I took a nap during the day and had it happen to me three times in a row when I kept waking up. It was the worst experience I've had with it. It was so mentally draining.
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Firewood18
05/12/18 9:08:20 PM
#122:


Interesting. I've had a few crazy vivid dreams but never paralysis. I'm just asking because on nights I don't drink I feel like I toss and turn for hours.
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Jen0125
05/12/18 9:15:53 PM
#123:


You could try guided meditation or melatonin.
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Cacciato
05/12/18 9:19:03 PM
#124:


SunWuKung420 posted...
I have that going for me and that my wife is unconcerned with the healthy level of beers I drink.

That's because she's fat and doesnt really have room to judge without being a hypocrite.
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Blightzkrieg
05/12/18 9:20:56 PM
#125:


Cacciato posted...
doesnt really have room to judge without being a hypocrite.

That doesn't stop Jen why should it stop anyone else
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helIy
05/12/18 9:22:35 PM
#126:


have you ever had the head explodies?

like a loud ass boom, just in your head

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploding_head_syndrome
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Firewood18
05/12/18 9:27:53 PM
#127:


Thanks for the advice. Good recommendations that I've only expirimented with and got mixed results. It just feels like to get a good nights sleep I need 4 or 5 drinks.

It sounds like you're doing well in the sleep dept right now. Good luck to ya.
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wwinterj25
05/12/18 9:31:43 PM
#128:


Jen0125 posted...
I said that is understandable but he needs to make a decision about whether he wants to see if his feelings can be rekindled for me or whether he wants to try to see other people because he can't do both at once. I can't live like that.

So you would be happy for him to be "with you" to see if his feelings change or not? Seems that's giving him a green light to use you as a stop gap. If he's even thinking about being with other people it's probably best you kick his arse to the curb no matter your feelings for him.

Jen0125 posted...
He also said he realized he didn't really have feelings for that other woman. He said he got really emotionally confused because she was giving him emotional support when he needed it after he hadn't had any in a long time from me. I said that was understandable.


I find it funny you're the one with a illness yet he's acting the victim. I wounder how this girls BF feels about this. I mean it's like those who say "I cheated and had sex because you wasn't giving me any" like that makes it ok. I don't know it seems you've handled this in a mature way but I wouldn't be a doormat.
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Jen0125
05/12/18 9:40:10 PM
#129:


wwinterj25 posted...
So you would be happy for him to be "with you" to see if his feelings change or not? Seems that's giving him a green light to use you as a stop gap. If he's even thinking about being with other people it's probably best you kick his arse to the curb no matter your feelings for him.


That's not reasonable. You don't understand how complicated this situation is. He's allowed to be confused right now. This isn't a black and white situation. This situation between us is very fragile and confusing.

wwinterj25 posted...
I find it funny you're the one with a illness yet he's acting the victim. I wounder how this girls BF feels about this. I mean it's like those who say "I cheated and had sex because you wasn't giving me any" like that makes it ok. I don't know it seems you've handled this in a mature way but I wouldn't be a doormat.


He is a victim. My illness isn't an excuse. I am a sick person but the way I behaved affected everyone around me even if it isn't who I truly am and the things I did I wouldn't truly do sober. He didn't cheat or have sex with her. He told me he never touched or kissed her. I told you guys I didn't know if that was true or not. But that is what he told me. You want to act like this situation is cut and dry but it really isn't.
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helIy
05/12/18 9:46:12 PM
#130:


you're trying to reason with a person who has never been in any sort of relationship, jen
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LinkPizza
05/12/18 9:49:21 PM
#131:


helIy posted...
you're trying to reason with a person who has never been in any sort of relationship, jen

I mean. i can't say I disagree fully... Like with him flip-flopping. I get that it's a confusing situation. But, I honestly wouldn't be sure if I could trust them. And that's not good for a relationship. And a bunch or other things... Bit Jen has to do what's good for her. If this works for her, then that's great...
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Jen0125
05/12/18 9:51:05 PM
#133:


You know what's really not good for a relationship? Being an emotionally neglecting blackout drunk alcoholic that drinks almost nightly for 3.5 years that fights with their boyfriend constantly and tells him that he's too good for his girlfriend and should just break up with her anyways because she's such a pathetic piece of shit.

If he wants to think about giving me another chance I'd take it in a fucking heartbeat.

You're talking about ME trusting HIM when he is wondering if HE can trust ME.
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LinkPizza
05/12/18 9:56:50 PM
#134:


Jen0125 posted...
You know what's really not good for a relationship? Being an emotionally neglecting blackout drunk alcoholic that drinks almost nightly for 3.5 years that fights with their boyfriend constantly and tells him that he's too good for his girlfriend and should just break up with her anyways because she's such a pathetic piece of shit.

If he wants to think about giving me another chance I'd take it in a fucking heartbeat.

You're talking about ME trusting HIM when he is wondering if HE can trust ME.

You are absolutely right about that. That's not good for a relationship, but that's also very specific. But on a basic level, trust is important. And even if you say that you trust him, if there's any doubt, that's not good. But that's not to say you doubt him. And every relationship is different, of course. So, like i said, if it works for you, then that's great. Different strokes for different folks, yo! On the end, you both would have to trust each other. Just because you carry a lot of the blame doesn't mean it's all on you. It's a two way street, as they say...
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Mead
05/12/18 10:02:40 PM
#135:


Well good luck to both of you on figuring out what is best for yourselves and each other, sounds like youre both being honest with each other and communicating which is a good sign
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wwinterj25
05/12/18 10:10:26 PM
#136:


Jen0125 posted...
You want to act like this situation is cut and dry but it really isn't.


Fair enough. To be fair all we have to go on is what you've typed here and nobody really know the situation but the two of you.

Jen0125 posted...
should just break up with her anyways because she's such a pathetic piece of shit.


As said before working on yourself and working out your self esteem issues is probably better for you right now than being in a relationship or at least that's the impression I get.

helIy posted...
you're trying to reason with a person who has never been in any sort of relationship, jen


Better than trying to have a discussion with a manchild.
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Zareth
05/12/18 10:13:23 PM
#137:


Jen was an alcoholic? Wat.
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Blightzkrieg
05/12/18 10:16:18 PM
#138:


Ungubby was a Jen alt this whole time.
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Jen0125
05/12/18 11:00:29 PM
#139:


wwinterj25 posted...
As said before working on yourself and working out your self esteem issues is probably better for you right now than being in a relationship or at least that's the impression I get.


Yeah, I've been working on it really hard the past 5 weeks and it's been great. I am doing a partial hospitalization program starting on Monday for my mental health issues and that should be a big help. It should help me deal with past abuse trauma which has been a big hindrance in developing my self worth as a child into adulthood.
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wwinterj25
05/12/18 11:08:14 PM
#140:


Jen0125 posted...
Yeah, I've been working on it really hard the past 5 weeks and it's been great. I am doing a partial hospitalization program starting on Monday for my mental health issues and that should be a big help. It should help me deal with past abuse trauma which has been a big hindrance in developing my self worth as a child into adulthood.


That's good to hear. It's nice to know you're getting the support you need and quite quickly too. Can't be easy but the end goal will be worth it.
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FatalAccident
05/13/18 12:37:31 AM
#141:


Welcome back bud. How are you feeling?
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Jen0125
05/13/18 12:45:34 AM
#142:


I feel pretty nervous but good too. Just nervous about the unknown.
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Jen0125
05/13/18 11:59:24 AM
#143:


I'm going to my first "We Agnostics" AA meeting today. I'm interested to see how it differs from other meetings.
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SkynyrdRocker
05/13/18 10:31:04 PM
#144:


How did it differ
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Jen0125
05/13/18 10:35:47 PM
#145:


It seems some people there don't do the step work and they don't do anything with a higher power. Some people do still do things with spirituality but not higher power.
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GanglyKhan
05/13/18 10:50:32 PM
#146:


Jen0125 posted...
Some people do still do things with spirituality but not higher power.

Even for those who don't necessarily believe in some sort of spirituality, having a defined purpose or goal in life often times serves as a valid substitute for believing in fate/God/ a deity/etc; I think that "purpose" serves as a good catch-all phrase with something like this because in all reality, what else does a religion or spirituality serve but to provide a reason for existence?
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wwinterj25
05/13/18 11:31:30 PM
#147:


Jen0125 posted...
Some people do still do things with spirituality but not higher power.


Like mediation/Mindfulness? That does actually work to some degree.
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ZackMorris
05/14/18 5:00:09 AM
#148:


GanglyKhan posted...
what else does a religion or spirituality serve but to provide a reason for existence?

An excuse to mistreat other life forms under a guise of moral superiority.
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Mead
05/14/18 5:11:02 AM
#149:


ZackMorris posted...
GanglyKhan posted...
what else does a religion or spirituality serve but to provide a reason for existence?

An excuse to mistreat other life forms under a guise of moral superiority.


People hardly need an excuse for that
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GanglyKhan
05/14/18 6:53:05 AM
#150:


ZackMorris posted...
GanglyKhan posted...
what else does a religion or spirituality serve but to provide a reason for existence?

An excuse to mistreat other life forms under a guise of moral superiority.

I assumed we were discussing the ethically and morally correct use of these ideologies. Nearly anything can be abused in the hands of the wrong people.
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Foppe
05/14/18 7:35:49 AM
#151:


Welcome back.
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