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Pepys Monster
05/04/18 2:07:56 PM
#51:


The Deadpool posted...
0atmealcreampie posted...
The Deadpool posted...
We want to ban guns!!!

For our safety, law officers with guns are allowed during the rally.


See what I did there.

See it?


You understand no one has tried to remove guns from police officers, right?

Fact of the matter is EVERYONE agrees that less guns is safer. Thats why you cant being a gun to the NRA...

Why do mass shootings happen in gun free zones, but never a gun show?
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0atmealcreampie
05/04/18 2:08:40 PM
#52:


Caution999 posted...
He wants gun control yet relies on guns for his own safety.

Shouldnt we all have the right to protect ourselves if necessary???


Nope only the elitists who are desperately trying to erode people constitutional rights and make sure they are second class citizens under themselves.
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thelovefist
05/04/18 2:08:41 PM
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It seems like a reasonable idea to me. I don't think I will ever be able to understand the passion Americans have for their firearms.
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TheCyborgNinja
05/04/18 2:09:05 PM
#54:


Maybe he just loves King George!
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Giant_Aspirin
05/04/18 2:09:05 PM
#55:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
It's dishonesty, considering their party is literally doing anything it can to subvert the 2nd amendment at this point.


the only "dishonesty" here is you assuming that every single liberal falls in line with the Democratic party lock-step. you're being intellectually lazy and dishonest.

you can't just go around calling things you dislike "dishonest", Proudclad, that's dishonest.

also the Democratic party isn't doing that.

stop viewing the world in pure black/white terms. it's dishonest.
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StucklnMyPants
05/04/18 2:09:23 PM
#56:


Pepys Monster posted...
The Deadpool posted...
0atmealcreampie posted...
The Deadpool posted...
We want to ban guns!!!

For our safety, law officers with guns are allowed during the rally.


See what I did there.

See it?


You understand no one has tried to remove guns from police officers, right?

Fact of the matter is EVERYONE agrees that less guns is safer. Thats why you cant being a gun to the NRA...

Why do mass shootings happen in gun free zones, but never a gun show?

Or gun ranges, where there are actually people shooting guns.
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FrenchCrunch
05/04/18 2:09:59 PM
#57:


Caution999 posted...
He wants gun control yet relies on guns for his own safety.

Shouldnt we all have the right to protect ourselves if necessary???

to my knowledge bernie sanders is fine with people owning guns
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darkjedilink
05/04/18 2:10:00 PM
#58:


FrenchCrunch posted...
so like why dont we just get rid of all guns that arent single shot

Because it's illegal to even attempt.
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Intro2Logic
05/04/18 2:10:40 PM
#59:


StucklnMyPants posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
The Deadpool posted...
0atmealcreampie posted...
The Deadpool posted...
We want to ban guns!!!

For our safety, law officers with guns are allowed during the rally.


See what I did there.

See it?


You understand no one has tried to remove guns from police officers, right?

Fact of the matter is EVERYONE agrees that less guns is safer. Thats why you cant being a gun to the NRA...

Why do mass shootings happen in gun free zones, but never a gun show?

Or gun ranges, where there are actually people shooting guns.

American sniper Chris Kyle was killed at a gun range
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FrenchCrunch
05/04/18 2:11:00 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
FrenchCrunch posted...
so like why dont we just get rid of all guns that arent single shot

Because it's illegal to even attempt.

im not looking for a "because that's the way it is" im looking for actual reasons
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Pepys Monster
05/04/18 2:13:00 PM
#61:


FrenchCrunch posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrenchCrunch posted...
so like why dont we just get rid of all guns that arent single shot

Because it's illegal to even attempt.

im not looking for a "because that's the way it is" im looking for actual reasons

Because that's fucking stupid? Why would we get rid of all guns that aren't single shot?
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Questionmarktarius
05/04/18 2:13:12 PM
#62:


darkjedilink posted...
FrenchCrunch posted...
so like why dont we just get rid of all guns that arent single shot

Because it's illegal to even attempt.


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ThePrinceFish
05/04/18 2:13:33 PM
#64:


FrenchCrunch posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrenchCrunch posted...
so like why dont we just get rid of all guns that arent single shot

Because it's illegal to even attempt.

im not looking for a "because that's the way it is" im looking for actual reasons

You were looking for an actual answer to such a stupid question?
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VectorChaos
05/04/18 2:14:18 PM
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Also, friendly reminder of the mind-boggling overlap between people who think Trump is Super Hitler and going to turn America into a fascist Fourth Reich any day now, people who think the police are just killing minorities as part of the Vast Evil White Racist Police Overlord Conspiracy, and people who think the civilian population needs to be completely disarmed and only the police and government they hate should have guns.
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The Deadpool
05/04/18 2:17:03 PM
#66:


Dark_Spiret posted...
The Deadpool posted...
Gun control doesnt work.

For our safety, no guns are allowed during Presidential speeches.
for the government and politicians safety. those who others may actually benefit from if they got shot. entire countrys have changed through political assassinations.


So in short: Gun control DOES save lives, which just dont care about saving YOUR life?
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FrenchCrunch
05/04/18 2:27:58 PM
#67:


ThePrinceFish posted...
You were looking for an actual answer to such a stupid question?

wow that's pretty mean. did i deserve that?
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FrenchCrunch
05/04/18 2:28:51 PM
#68:


shockthemonkey posted...
FrenchCrunch posted...
Caution999 posted...
He wants gun control yet relies on guns for his own safety.

Shouldnt we all have the right to protect ourselves if necessary???

to my knowledge bernie sanders is fine with people owning guns

Him and current NRA spokesman Killer Mike were pretty much on the same page about gun rights during Sanders presidential campaign.

Sanders doesnt like the NRA and the gun lobby but the dude is from Vermont, hes sure as hell not opposed to gun ownership.

why is that caution guy acting like bernie hates guns and wants them gone
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darkjedilink
05/04/18 2:31:31 PM
#70:


FrenchCrunch posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrenchCrunch posted...
so like why dont we just get rid of all guns that arent single shot

Because it's illegal to even attempt.

im not looking for a "because that's the way it is" im looking for actual reasons

That is the actual reason - banning semi-automatic weapons is unconstitutional.
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FrenchCrunch
05/04/18 2:32:00 PM
#71:


how is it unconstitutional?
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Tmaster148
05/04/18 2:32:31 PM
#72:


FrenchCrunch posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
FrenchCrunch posted...
Caution999 posted...
He wants gun control yet relies on guns for his own safety.

Shouldnt we all have the right to protect ourselves if necessary???

to my knowledge bernie sanders is fine with people owning guns

Him and current NRA spokesman Killer Mike were pretty much on the same page about gun rights during Sanders presidential campaign.

Sanders doesnt like the NRA and the gun lobby but the dude is from Vermont, hes sure as hell not opposed to gun ownership.

why is that caution guy acting like bernie hates guns and wants them gone


Because it's LiberalFAQs. The only thing he can do is acted outraged about everything.
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FrenchCrunch
05/04/18 2:33:19 PM
#73:


Tmaster148 posted...
Because it's LiberalFAQs

but he hates bernie sanders. is he really liberal?
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creativerealms
05/04/18 2:34:04 PM
#74:


As a Democrat I will never vote for him and hope he doesn't get far. I am a proud liberal gun owner and I don't like these gun grabbers giving us a bad reputation.
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Tmaster148
05/04/18 2:34:08 PM
#75:


FrenchCrunch posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Because it's LiberalFAQs

but he hates bernie sanders. is he really liberal?


His account LiberalFAQs was just an account complaining about liberals.
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darkjedilink
05/04/18 3:03:47 PM
#77:


FrenchCrunch posted...
how is it unconstitutional?

Because people have a constitutional right to bare firearms. This right shall not be infringed. Banning anything not single-shot is an infringement of that right.

Ergo, it's unconstitutional and therefore illegal.
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The Deadpool
05/04/18 3:11:27 PM
#78:


darkjedilink posted...
Because people have a constitutional right to bare firearms.


Technically not accurate...
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FrenchCrunch
05/04/18 3:26:39 PM
#79:


darkjedilink posted...
Because people have a constitutional right to bare firearms

yea im not saying get rid of all of them, just all except single fire

darkjedilink posted...
Banning anything not single-shot is an infringement of that right.

but how? it just says people can have guns if they wanna be in a militia or something. it doesnt say what kind of guns
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darkjedilink
05/04/18 3:36:15 PM
#80:


FrenchCrunch posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Because people have a constitutional right to bare firearms

yea im not saying get rid of all of them, just all except single fire

darkjedilink posted...
Banning anything not single-shot is an infringement of that right.

but how? it just says people can have guns if they wanna be in a militia or something. it doesnt say what kind of guns

It doesn't say 'if you want to be in a militia.' Even if it did, an improperly-equipped militia is pointless.
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darkjedilink
05/04/18 3:36:43 PM
#81:


The Deadpool posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Because people have a constitutional right to bare firearms.

Technically not accurate...

How do you figure?
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Dark_Spiret
05/04/18 3:40:21 PM
#82:


FrenchCrunch posted...
yea im not saying get rid of all of them, just all except single fire
depending on how you want to interpret the 2nd amendment- the concept of the second was to be on as much of an even footing with an opposing force as possible. in modern times that doesnt mean single shot weapons when an opposing force would have semi or fully automatic ones when it comes infantry. now by that very concept it also means we are already infringed heavily compared to what modern military has, but that doesnt mean it gives gun control advocates more of a right to further neuter peoples constitutional rights and further limit our own defense who we in the US are extremely fortunate to have unlike most of the world.

basically the "well, we are already at a disadvantage, so lets fuck our selves further!" mentality is bullshit and the most defeatist pussy attitude there is. those are the types of people who tend to be the first to get a bullet if an actual uprising goes down.
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voldothegr8
05/04/18 3:41:42 PM
#83:


The party of compromise right guys?
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
05/04/18 3:47:56 PM
#84:


I hope he has to be the one kicking in doors not fair to the cops he gets killed.

Anyways hope people shoot back and if not may your boating accidents be grand.
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FrenchCrunch
05/04/18 3:52:44 PM
#85:


darkjedilink posted...
It doesn't say 'if you want to be in a militia.' Even if it did, an improperly-equipped militia is pointless.

compared to the government we are rather improperly equipped. i feel like that argument doesnt matter
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Roshon
05/04/18 3:55:40 PM
#86:


I like Rep. Eric Swalwell. Finally a politician with balls.
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darkjedilink
05/04/18 3:57:30 PM
#87:


FrenchCrunch posted...
darkjedilink posted...
It doesn't say 'if you want to be in a militia.' Even if it did, an improperly-equipped militia is pointless.

compared to the government we are rather improperly equipped. i feel like that argument doesnt matter

It absolutely DOES matter, because people are using the fact that the military is better equipped as a reason to disarm the populace, in direct defiance of the Constitution.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
05/04/18 4:09:23 PM
#88:


First of all, stop with the false narrative that you don't need guns as long as the police have guns. That might be true in a suburb with a proper police force and non congested roadways, but the average response time in my area for an emergency 911 call is 30-35 minutes. My small town only has a local cop on duty for 2 shifts (16 hours) a week.

And secondly, I rather doubt this senator believes this has any chance of passing. I think that possibly they might have been trying to make a point about how we need to look at gun control differently because there's just too many guns out there in circulation to ever realistically make it difficult to get a black market rifle even if they outlawed everything.

Or, maybe they're an idiot. Who knows, I'm no telepath. The whole plan falls apart with the laughable compensation amount they're proposing. Most of the guns they want to ban are worth well over the $1,000 mark. That's like trying to cut the pro gun crowd then piss in the wound.
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The Deadpool
05/04/18 4:16:25 PM
#89:


darkjedilink posted...
The Deadpool posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Because people have a constitutional right to bare firearms.

Technically not accurate...

How do you figure?


Firearms arent specified in the Constitution at all.

And every note taken during the Constitutional Convention relating to weaponry and the Second Ammendment revolves around militias and not private citizens.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
05/04/18 4:21:52 PM
#91:


And here's my take on semi automatic high capacity rifles.

Just make it illegal to open carry them without a reason. Make it so that you can only shoot those rifles at accredited ranges, that can be used for free by the registered "AR" owner. Then you can just schedule a time to shoot at a range, which would basically just be you calling 15 minutes before you leave and calling to get some type of confirmation number which can be used in the event that you are stopped by the police.

A similar system could be set up for boar hunters. I can't really think of other legit reasons to be taking an AR-15 anywhere away from your house. I'm not familiar with any types of hunting other than boar that people realistically ever use "ARs"
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FrenchCrunch
05/04/18 4:23:53 PM
#92:


darkjedilink posted...
It absolutely DOES matter, because people are using the fact that the military is better equipped as a reason to disarm the populace, in direct defiance of the Constitution.

i dont think people are using that as a reason, just as a counter to the argument of fighting the military
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/04/18 4:47:15 PM
#93:


GregShmedley posted...
The Deadpool posted...
darkjedilink posted...
The Deadpool posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Because people have a constitutional right to bare firearms.

Technically not accurate...

How do you figure?


Firearms aren?t specified in the Constitution at all.

And every note taken during the Constitutional Convention relating to weaponry and the Second Ammendment revolves around militias and not private citizens.


SCoTUS disagrees.


Yeah, but SCRoTUM agrees.
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The Deadpool
05/04/18 5:22:52 PM
#94:


GregShmedley posted...
The Deadpool posted...
darkjedilink posted...
The Deadpool posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Because people have a constitutional right to bare firearms.

Technically not accurate...

How do you figure?


Firearms arent specified in the Constitution at all.

And every note taken during the Constitutional Convention relating to weaponry and the Second Ammendment revolves around militias and not private citizens.


SCoTUS disagrees.


They can choose to misinterpret things if they want, but the facts remain:

Firearms arent mentioned.

Every bit of evidence we have of the discussions leading up to the Ammendment are about militias.

Neither of those statements are things you can agree or disagree with. You can know or not know them.
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The Deadpool
05/04/18 5:53:24 PM
#96:


GregShmedley posted...
Splitting hairs.


There is a distinction between arms and firearms. There was one then, theres one now.

GregShmedley posted...
How so? Seems pretty clear to me and the SCoTUS.


Does it? Then show me any note from the Constitutional Convention that talks about individual gun rights instead of militias. Shouldnt be hard since its pretty clear.
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VectorChaos
05/04/18 9:31:27 PM
#98:


How has this gone on this long?

The Toolpool posted...
lol firearms and arms are different


Arms are weapons.

Firearms are weapons.

Stop feeding.
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darkjedilink
05/04/18 9:45:20 PM
#99:


The Deadpool posted...
Every bit of evidence we have of the discussions leading up to the Ammendment are about militias.

This is a blatant falsehood. Every writing about it was about the individual right, militia service be damned.
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bknight
05/04/18 9:52:51 PM
#100:


I spent roughly $500 on my bullet button AR which I just registered in CA, so if they bought it back for $1000 I would be stoked. Would use that towards a new DE .44 or just a featurless rifle with regular magazines.
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