Current Events > Texas Man uses GAY PANIC DEFENSE to Justify KILLING a 32 y/o Man and it WORKED!!

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Full Throttle
04/28/18 3:57:14 PM
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Do you think the "gay panic" defense is a justifiable defense?? - Results (6 votes)
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No
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69 y/o James Miller was found NOT GUILTY of murder and manslaughter after his lawyer used the GAY PANIC DEFENSE as the reason to kill his 32 y/o neighbor!!

The Austin man was instead found guilty of criminally negligent homicide in the 2015 death of Daniel Spencer but agreed with him that murdering him over fears of a gay man making a move on him since he was a straight man was justifiable!! He could have faced life in prison.

He was sentenced to just 10 years probation and six months in jail. He must also complete 100 hours of community service and pay $11,000 in restitution to Spencer's family.

It happened in 2015 when Spencer invited James to his home to drink and play music as they were both music players. James claims that Daniel grew angry when he rejected his "sexual advances" and because he said Daniel moved towards him in a "threatening manner" by brandishing a glass, he then STABBED him several times!!

He said "We're musicians and all that kind of stuff but i'm not a gay guy. It seemed like everything was alright and everything was fine. When i got ready to go, it seemed like s*** just started happening"

James said that he was 37 youngers than me and had an arm length over him and felt he was going to SEXUALLY ASSAULT him.

Charlie Baird, the defense said the verdict was not a fair one as he said he should have been ACQUITTED on self defense

Prosecutor Matthew Foye said "The fact that the jury didn't let Miller on self-defense established that Daniel Spencer was a victim of a senseless killing by the defendant and he did not do anything to bring upon himself"

There are 48 US States allow the "gay panic" or "trans panic" defense in which a defendant can cite a victim's sexuality or gender identity as justification for murder to obtain a lesser charge or reduced sentence as they can claim that any gay or trans person who makes a sexual advance on the is justified to use VIOLENCE

Illionis joined California to prohibit the gay panic defense

Do you think the gay panic defense is a justifiable defense??

Daniel - Deceased

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/28/16/4BA6067300000578-5668921-image-m-32_1524928602857.jpg

James - Ugly Liar

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/28/16/4BA4D0FD00000578-5668921-image-a-33_1524928609765.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/28/16/4BA6157200000578-5668921-image-m-37_1524928744369.jpg

Murder Scene -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/28/16/4BA614A500000578-5668921-image-a-35_1524928637802.jpg
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Aki_Narukami
04/28/18 3:58:14 PM
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rest in peace

Full Throttle posted...
There are 48 US States allow the "gay panic" or "trans panic" defense in which a defendant can cite a victim's sexuality or gender identity as justification for murder to obtain a lesser charge or reduced sentence as they can claim that any gay or trans person who makes a sexual advance on the is justified to use VIOLENCE

what the fuck
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tamashiini
04/28/18 4:00:52 PM
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What a shitbird.
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ehhwhatever
04/28/18 4:01:35 PM
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Texans are kinda tight with the turkey, "sorry man you can't sit at our table. They exclude like barbed wire so this defense makes sense in texxxas.
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PutDownTheFork
04/28/18 4:03:00 PM
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So it was self defense?
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Sayoria
04/28/18 4:04:11 PM
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What about straight panic? If a gay guy in Texas kills a straight guy for those reasons, it also isnt murder, right?
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Vicious_Dios
04/28/18 4:04:20 PM
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What a sad turn of events.
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tamashiini
04/28/18 4:07:09 PM
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Sayoria posted...
What about straight panic? If a gay guy in Texas kills a straight guy for those reasons, it also isnt murder, right?


Wouldn't a gay man have to kill a straight woman coming onto him for that to be analogous
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iron jojo
04/28/18 4:07:21 PM
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ehhwhatever posted...
Texans are kinda tight with the turkey, "sorry man you can't sit at our table. They exclude like barbed wire so this defense makes sense in texxxas.

What does any of this even mean
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Vicious_Dios
04/28/18 4:10:21 PM
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iron jojo posted...
ehhwhatever posted...
Texans are kinda tight with the turkey, "sorry man you can't sit at our table. They exclude like barbed wire so this defense makes sense in texxxas.

What does any of this even mean


No clue, but I could go for a turkey leg right about now.
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Sayoria
04/28/18 4:10:32 PM
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tamashiini posted...
Sayoria posted...
What about straight panic? If a gay guy in Texas kills a straight guy for those reasons, it also isnt murder, right?


Wouldn't a gay man have to kill a straight woman coming onto him for that to be analogous


Yes.
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ultimate reaver
04/28/18 4:16:01 PM
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If someone actually uses this as a defense they should be institutionalized, not given probation
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StucklnMyPants
04/28/18 4:30:05 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
Daniel moved towards him in a "threatening manner" by brandishing a glass, he then STABBED him several times!!

Fair, next.
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SomeonesAlt
04/28/18 4:34:22 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
There are 48 US States allow the "gay panic" or "trans panic" defense in which a defendant can cite a victim's sexuality or gender identity as justification for murder to obtain a lesser charge or reduced sentence as they can claim that any gay or trans person who makes a sexual advance on the is justified to use VIOLENCE

This shit doesn't belong in the 21st century. You can basically commit hate crimes and claims self defense
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Roshon
04/28/18 4:35:38 PM
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But they say the gay rights battle ended with gay marriage...
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Kanaya413
04/28/18 4:37:27 PM
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Terrible

Daniel was very handsome rest in peace man
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Prestoff
04/28/18 4:37:53 PM
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PutDownTheFork posted...
So it was self defense?


Yeah, but I think the biggest focus is the whole "gay panic" thing being a thing to reduce your sentence, which in my opinion is incredibly stupid.
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KStateKing17
04/28/18 4:41:44 PM
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And this is why people stay in the closet. Sensitive ass men get scared of catching the gay. How the hell is that even legal?
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Axiom
04/28/18 4:42:39 PM
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Texa-

Full Throttle posted...
There are 48 US States allow the "gay panic" or "trans panic" defense in which a defendant can cite a victim's sexuality or gender identity as justification for murder to obtain a lesser charge or reduced sentence as they can claim that any gay or trans person who makes a sexual advance on the is justified to use VIOLENCE

What the fuck
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AngelSeven
04/28/18 4:45:42 PM
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It's sad how gay people are still in danger smh.
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hockeybub89
04/28/18 4:45:57 PM
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So does this mean gay men and women can kill the opposite sex if they feel the straights are hitting on them? What if an ugly person of your preferred sex makes advances?

Oh wait, this is just some "homosexuals are weird deviants" relic of a law.
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Kanaya413
04/28/18 4:47:40 PM
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Aki_Narukami posted...
rest in peace

Full Throttle posted...
There are 48 US States allow the "gay panic" or "trans panic" defense in which a defendant can cite a victim's sexuality or gender identity as justification for murder to obtain a lesser charge or reduced sentence as they can claim that any gay or trans person who makes a sexual advance on the is justified to use VIOLENCE

what the fuck

Seriously what the fuck is this bull
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Serious Cat
04/28/18 4:53:35 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
There are 48 US States allow the "gay panic" or "trans panic" defense in which a defendant can cite a victim's sexuality or gender identity as justification for murder to obtain a lesser charge or reduced sentence as they can claim that any gay or trans person who makes a sexual advance on the is justified to use VIOLENCE

Eh, not quite. There are two states that banned it, but it's not allowed in the sense that it's a named acceptable defense and certainly doesn't apply to "any" case and won't necessarily result in lesser charges if invoked.
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mrduckbear
04/28/18 11:45:49 PM
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majority agrees, it's BOGUS
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jumi
04/29/18 1:19:12 AM
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What a goddamn travesty.
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EnragedSlith
04/29/18 1:21:15 AM
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Whats surprising is that this flew in Austin of all places, which I thought was fairly liberal.
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gguirao
04/29/18 1:21:46 AM
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It's a shitty excuse of a defense.
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Funbazooka
04/29/18 1:29:42 AM
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So a man defended himself from sexual assault? Fair, next.
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Tyranthraxus
04/29/18 1:33:10 AM
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Gay Panic defense should be considered not guilty by reason of insanity and if you declare it (and it's accepted) you should be institutionalized for life.
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mrduckbear
04/29/18 4:06:40 PM
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hmm
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VectorChaos
04/29/18 4:08:38 PM
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What the shit
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iPhone_7
04/29/18 5:16:14 PM
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Brandished a glass? A glass of wine?
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SubtletyRefuge
05/01/18 4:36:07 AM
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lol I just got told by mods that homophobes are "a group of people" that shouldn't be compared to pedophiles.
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KStateKing17
05/01/18 8:39:53 AM
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SubtletyRefuge posted...
lol I just got told by mods that homophobes are "a group of people" that shouldn't be compared to pedophiles.

lwzrXjp
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PtlessAgmnts
05/03/18 6:35:04 AM
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KStateKing17 posted...
SubtletyRefuge posted...
lol I just got told by mods that homophobes are "a group of people" that shouldn't be compared to pedophiles.

lwzrXjp
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tamashiini
05/03/18 1:34:53 PM
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PtlessAgmnts posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
SubtletyRefuge posted...
lol I just got told by mods that homophobes are "a group of people" that shouldn't be compared to pedophiles.

lwzrXjp

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DracoSpire
05/04/18 11:39:09 PM
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The defense shouldn't be based on his sexuality as much as it is based on defending yourself from being sexually assaulted. If Spencer was attempting to sexually assault him, then it would be a justifiable sentence, in my opinion, but I don't know if he really was.
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ChainedRedone
05/04/18 11:55:55 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
Brandished a glass? A glass of wine?


Just the other day I brandished my water bottle.
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PtlessAgmnts
05/06/18 10:12:00 PM
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tamashiini posted...
PtlessAgmnts posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
SubtletyRefuge posted...
lol I just got told by mods that homophobes are "a group of people" that shouldn't be compared to pedophiles.

lwzrXjp


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PtlessAgmnts
05/09/18 2:09:08 AM
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PtlessAgmnts
05/11/18 4:41:57 AM
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