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Shadow-Moses
04/21/18 11:56:45 AM
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Imagine how great Zelda would look if it was graphically similar to HZD. When will they drop this cartoony stuff and be more like Sony & MS?
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TheMarthKoopa
04/21/18 11:57:01 AM
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Realistic graphics are boring
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Hexenherz
04/21/18 11:57:17 AM
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Because their consoles are technically less powerful and less capable of generating the graphics that other platforms can.
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Megaman50100
04/21/18 11:57:21 AM
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Real answer, when Sony and MS stop doing it.
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JE19426
04/21/18 11:58:14 AM
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That's easy, because they don't want to make games with realistic graphics.
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Garioshi
04/21/18 11:58:45 AM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
Realistic graphics are boring

This, and "realistic" graphics don't age well at all.
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QassTank
04/21/18 11:58:54 AM
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Meh. Realistic graphics are overrated anyway. I'd rather have something stylized that will still look good in 20 years than an attempt at realism that will look like shit in 5 years.
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Shadow-Moses
04/21/18 11:59:14 AM
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JE19426 posted...
That's easy, because they don't want to make games with realistic graphics.


They had Perfect Dark, which was one of the best looking games of its time.
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Garioshi
04/21/18 11:59:55 AM
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Shadow-Moses posted...
JE19426 posted...
That's easy, because they don't want to make games with realistic graphics.


They had Perfect Dark, which was one of the best looking games of its time.

lmao what
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RE_expert44
04/21/18 12:00:24 PM
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Didn't twilight princess go with a more realistic style?
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JE19426
04/21/18 12:00:59 PM
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Shadow-Moses posted...
They had Perfect Dark, which was one of the best looking games of its time.


Rare developed that, not Nintendo.
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QassTank
04/21/18 12:01:31 PM
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JE19426 posted...
Shadow-Moses posted...
They had Perfect Dark, which was one of the best looking games of its time.


Rare developed that, not Nintendo.

And hey, the graphics look like absolute ass today.
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Solar_Crimson
04/21/18 12:01:42 PM
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Garioshi posted...
TheMarthKoopa posted...
Realistic graphics are boring

This, and "realistic" graphics don't age well at all.

QassTank posted...
Meh. Realistic graphics are overrated anyway. I'd rather have something stylized that will still look good in 20 years than an attempt at realism that will look like shit in 5 years.

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Shadow-Moses
04/21/18 12:01:56 PM
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Yeah, but now all their games look like they are made for kids.
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Banjo2553
04/21/18 12:02:35 PM
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RE_expert44 posted...
Didn't twilight princess go with a more realistic style?

And it kinda looks ugly today. Meanwhile Wind Waker still holds up.
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DarkChozoGhost
04/21/18 12:02:58 PM
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Because they're more visually appealing, and age better.

Which game looks better, Wind Waker of San Andreas? Wind Waker 1000 times
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Hexenherz
04/21/18 12:03:04 PM
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Shadow-Moses posted...
Yeah, but now all their games look like they are made for kids.

Traditionally they have been a more family oriented company, so...
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StarReaper13
04/21/18 12:04:25 PM
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Because gameplay > graphics, as it should be.

Also they age way better.
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Banjo2553
04/21/18 12:05:26 PM
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That said...I would've really loved a Zelda game with the Wii U tech demo's graphics.
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wackyteen
04/21/18 12:05:49 PM
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I never understood the push for realistic graphics. Style is far more appealing than realism.
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QassTank
04/21/18 12:06:22 PM
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Besides, why are people even bothering with consoles for graphics power when PC can do 4k 144fps and consoles can't even come close.

I mean hell, even my PC that I built 2 years ago can do 4k 60fps no issues.
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IMNOTRAGED
04/21/18 12:33:00 PM
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Shadow-Moses posted...
Imagine how great Zelda would look


No. BotW has the perfect art style for Zelda. Not everything needs to look the same.

If anything we need more high budget titles to go in the stylistic direction.
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GoIdSocksForWok
04/21/18 12:34:41 PM
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They dont have any platforms with powerful enough hardware for that.
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RoboLaserGandhi
04/21/18 12:47:06 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
RE_expert44 posted...
Didn't twilight princess go with a more realistic style?

And it kinda looks ugly today. Meanwhile Wind Waker still holds up.

Twilight Princess has the best art style in Zelda.

It's also not realistic at all, just non-cartoony. It looks like a regular fantasy game instead of something wild.
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DeadSite
04/21/18 12:49:49 PM
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QassTank posted...
PC can do 4k 144fps

No it can't
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Raikuro
04/21/18 12:53:12 PM
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It eats into their markup. Most Nintendo games are just severely overpriced indie games.
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FairyLeviathan
04/21/18 12:54:23 PM
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Because they're dull and overrated. BotW is the most beautiful game I've seen in a decade.
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Banjo2553
04/21/18 12:56:28 PM
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FairyLeviathan posted...
Because they're dull and overrated. BotW is the most beautiful game I've seen in a decade.

It's the closest thing to a playable Miyazaki film outside of the Ni No Kuni games.
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FairyLeviathan
04/21/18 12:56:44 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
That said...I would've really loved a Zelda game with the Wii U tech demo's graphics.

Also this
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FighterStreet
04/21/18 1:08:56 PM
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this board is so nintendo biased its disgusting. fucking shills everywhere

anyways, nintendo knows it cant compete with sony..or it least thinks it think it is not as lucrative to do so as its current strategy.
nintendo is trying to do different things with its consoles (portability, for one) which limits graphic fidelity. why make a realistic game that wont look as realistic or good as on ps4 or xbox or pc?

i dont mind it. nintendo power limitations for designers forces them to get creative. its good to have a variety of games on the market.
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RoboLaserGandhi
04/21/18 1:20:48 PM
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DeadSite posted...
QassTank posted...
PC can do 4k 144fps

No it can't

Maybe in Minecraft
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CyricZ
04/21/18 1:21:27 PM
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Shadow-Moses posted...
They had Perfect Dark, which was one of the best looking games of its time.

And now it looks like garbage.
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FairyLeviathan
04/21/18 1:22:32 PM
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this board is so nintendo biased its disgusting. fucking shills everywhere

anyways, nintendo knows it cant compete with sony..


What is this fucking post
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Wetterdew
04/21/18 1:28:53 PM
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Realistic graphics mean less fun character designs.

Games like The Wind Waker and Skyward Sword have some really cool-looking characters that you'd never see in something mimicking real life.
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wackyteen
04/21/18 1:31:50 PM
#37:


Also with realistic graphics you can fall into the uncanny valley headlong. Whereas with cartoony/less realistic graphics you can make something instantly recognizable as human while not being hard/weird to look
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RoboLaserGandhi
04/21/18 1:33:54 PM
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Wetterdew posted...
Realistic graphics mean less fun character designs.

Games like The Wind Waker and Skyward Sword have some really cool-looking characters that you'd never see in something mimicking real life.

Define "fun" character designs.

Like, wild and wacky is not necessarily more enjoyable.

The game has to have cohesive themes and "variety" being the theme itself is lame and lazy.
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wackyteen
04/21/18 1:35:05 PM
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...
wacky is not necessarily more enjoyable.

Oh... OK. *leaves*
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Hayame Zero
04/21/18 1:37:47 PM
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As long as processing power is decent enough, that's all that should matter. Their IPs don't need to have "realistic" design, they look good enough. Hell, realism might actually harm them.
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Prestoff
04/21/18 1:38:33 PM
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Nintendo prioritizes aesthetics over realism, which is why a lot of their games aren't impressive graphically but still look better than a lot of modern games.
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QassTank
04/21/18 1:38:57 PM
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DeadSite posted...
QassTank posted...
PC can do 4k 144fps

No it can't

You'd be surprised what graphics cards can do. The 1080ti can do 4k 120 FPS in a lot of games, and it's not even the most powerful gpu on the market.

SLI with 1080tis and you can easily do 4k 144fps.

RoboLaserGandhi posted...
DeadSite posted...
QassTank posted...
PC can do 4k 144fps

No it can't

Maybe in Minecraft

I wouldn't use Minecraft as a base since my PC with just a 1070 can do 4k 500 fps in Minecraft. <_<
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MarqueeSeries
04/21/18 1:46:45 PM
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Wind Waker still looks good today, and Breath of the Wild will still look good 2 Gen's from now. That's why
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DeadSite
04/21/18 1:54:54 PM
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QassTank posted...
You'd be surprised what graphics cards can do. The 1080ti can do 4k 120 FPS in a lot of games, and it's not even the most powerful gpu on the market.

SLI with 1080tis and you can easily do 4k 144fps.

I have a 1080ti and no game worth its weight in graphics can be reasonably done in 4k 144FPS. SLI is garbage and very rarely worth the cost either, and in a lot of games would actively hamper performance. If you're talking about Titans or even Quadros those are not even really for gaming and don't even do reasonably better than a 1080TI does at gaming
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Second_Chances
04/21/18 1:57:48 PM
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realistic graphics suck

but not even Nintendo uses the styles I want, Star Allies is particularly disappointing with how it uses a great style on the pause menu and boss cut-ins but uses awful shitty realistic lighting and textures in actual gameplay as if that doesn't clash horribly with the cartoony designs
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DarkChozoGhost
04/21/18 2:08:49 PM
#46:


RoboLaserGandhi posted...

Twilight Princess has the best art style in Zelda.

Hell no. Most of the NPCs and enemies look shitty
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Wetterdew
04/21/18 5:56:03 PM
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Wetterdew posted...
Realistic graphics mean less fun character designs.

Games like The Wind Waker and Skyward Sword have some really cool-looking characters that you'd never see in something mimicking real life.

Define "fun" character designs.

Like, wild and wacky is not necessarily more enjoyable.

The game has to have cohesive themes and "variety" being the theme itself is lame and lazy.


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Zelda's characters are at their best when their designs are strong like these. Their personalities and characteristics are elegantly woven into the character design in a way that lets you understand what kind of person they are just by looking at them, before they've even spoken. In addition to their appearances, many of them have wildly unique animations, voices, and sound effects (think Makar's walking sounds for example, or the way the Killer Bees flank you). Each character is visually distinct and can easily be identified from each other, as well as being colorful and fun to look at. Most of these designs would be either impossible or much less interesting and effective if the games were not stylized. If you think these games have lazy character design, then you are just blatantly wrong.

Some other examples of strong character designs that are possible thanks to heavy stylization are in ARMS, Okami, Team Fortress 2, and Overwatch.
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mehmeh1
04/21/18 6:02:06 PM
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QassTank posted...
Meh. Realistic graphics are overrated anyway. I'd rather have something stylized that will still look good in 20 years than an attempt at realism that will look like shit in 5 years.

yeah, I know this example has been used quite a lot, but just compare WW and TP, which one has aged better?
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mehmeh1
04/21/18 6:03:21 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Shadow-Moses posted...
Yeah, but now all their games look like they are made for kids.

Traditionally they have been a more family oriented company, so...

wasn't their original target audience (for their hanafuda cards back in 1886) the yakuza?
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catboy0_0
04/21/18 6:04:08 PM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
Realistic graphics are boring

this
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